North Korea and US politics

[mack341]

Absolutely a ticking time bomb, in 2043 White people become a minority.

But all the wealth will still be in, and I don't like using crude group terms, but old white men's hands, will it not? The middle class will be poorer and smaller but I doubt the 1% will be worse off, they have become richer in the last 30 years and helped in this regard through globalisation, markets opened up for cheap labour and investment.

Maybe the idea is to take some of the wealth which would previously have gone to the middle class and redistribute it to the less well off people below, many from ethnic groups, in the form of better benefits/healthcare etc...rather than the richest 1% being expected to contribute more, instead their wealth carries on going up?

 

[Harry_BKK]

Absolutely a ticking time bomb, in 2043 White people become a minority.

And what is the problem with that?

 

[Harry_BKK]

This vid of trump with epstein doesn't look good:



Trump looks like a louche, lounge lizard loser with his bushy eyebrows, the women don't look young enough for Mr epstein's interest though, so not sure it's that incriminating but I don't like seeing trump hovering round him, subservient like that.

Oh, just wait, Epstein will be another "low-level coffeeboy", a "stonecold loser" a "......" (enter words as you see fit) soon.

 

[ternur]

Absolutely a ticking time bomb, in 2043 White people become a minority.

That's good news, I hope it will happen. White people have always been a minority in the world. Why should US be any different.

 

[slotplayer]

And what is the problem with that?

Its in reference to the future of the GOP.

 

[slotplayer]

That's good news, I hope it will happen. White people have always been a minority in the world. Why should US be any different.

What are the demographics of Finland again?

 

[slotplayer]

This vid of trump with epstein doesn't look good:



Trump looks like a louche, lounge lizard loser with his bushy eyebrows, the women don't look young enough for Mr epstein's interest though, so not sure it's that incriminating but I don't like seeing trump hovering round him, subservient like that.

Those host on that show, Morning Joe are Joe Scarabrough and Mika Brzezinski. He's an ex-congressman Republican and shes a Liberal. They're married to each other now.

Her father was Zbigniew Brzezinski, National Security Advisor to Jimmy Carter.
I always liked hearing his take on things when he was on the show, unfortunately he died a couple years ago.

Published on Nov 23, 2016

 

[ternur]

What are the demographics of Finland again?

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Only one. Human. That was the point.

Confused again slotplayer?

 

[slotplayer]

But all the wealth will still be in, and I don't like using crude group terms, but old white men's hands, will it not? The middle class will be poorer and smaller but I doubt the 1% will be worse off, they have become richer in the last 30 years and helped in this regard through globalisation, markets opened up for cheap labour and investment.

Maybe the idea is to take some of the wealth which would previously have gone to the middle class and redistribute it to the less well off people below, many from ethnic groups, in the form of better benefits/healthcare etc...rather than the richest 1% being expected to contribute more, instead their wealth carries on going up?

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Just heard it today, 63% of new home owner ship is Hispanic.

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[slotplayer]

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Only one. Human. That was the point.

Confused again slotplayer?

You're confused again cuz you immediately went to the race card, like you're programmed to do.

 

[ternur]

You're confused again cuz you immediately went to the race card, like you're programmed to do.

I'm still not confused. And not programmed to do anything. I can't say the same about you though. But maybe I'm wrong and don't know it. Must be that indoctrination of mine. Glad you're here to set me straight

 

[mack341]

That's good news, I hope it will happen. White people have always been a minority in the world. Why should US be any different.

Only one. Human. That was the point.

Confused again slotplayer?

I'm certainly confused, is the sentiment of the first post consistent with the second ?

And in any case what is morally wrong with a majority, for cultural and reasons of tradition, wanting to keep that status?

 

[slotplayer]

I'm still not confused. And not programmed to do anything. I can't say the same about you though. But maybe I'm wrong and don't know it. Must be that indoctrination of mine. Glad you're here to set me straight

Perhaps go back over your thought process and your first reaction when you read my statement and why you immediately went to that conclusion and why it was triggered.

Mack and I were referencing the majority of the GOP voting block.

 

[ternur]

Perhaps go back over your thought process and your first reaction when you read my statement and why you immediately went to that conclusion and why it was triggered.

Mack and I were referencing the majority of the GOP voting block.

I might have made a wrong conclusion. If so I stand corrected. But overall I stand by my statement.

 

[vorcirion]

I'm certainly confused, is the sentiment of the first post consistent with the second ?

And in any case what is morally wrong with a majority, for cultural and reasons of tradition, wanting to keep that status?

Do you think black people have much different traditions, cultural things in US/UK than white ones?

 

[slotplayer]

I might have made a wrong conclusion. If so I stand corrected. But overall I stand by my statement.

Maybe I should have worded it better, battling a cold right now.

 

[ternur]

I'm certainly confused, is the sentiment of the first post consistent with the second ?

What is morally wrong with a majority, for cultural and reasons of tradition, wanting to keep that status?

I'd like to think it was consistent.

Those who support the principle of ethnocentrism for example might not see anything wrong with it. I'm not saying that's you mack.

I was not thinking about morality to be honest. At least not in the descriptive sense. Perhaps my thoughts were more inline with, let's say an application (in some level) of categorical imperative by Kant. I was doing some light reading earlier

 

[ternur]

Maybe I should have worded it better, battling a cold right now.

It's hard sometimes to get your point. Your posts are short

Plus I read into posts more than I should (occasionally).

I hope you'll get well soon.

 

[mack341]

Do you think black people have much different traditions, cultural things in US/UK than white ones?

Not entirely no, there is integration as the income levels go up, but you could've just as easily asked 'do you think latinos or native americans have different traditions to white people.' then it sounds a bit more silly. Many of the blacks were violently uprooted from africa and enslaved, so to some degree lost touch more with their african traditions than say a mexican would have.

In the lower echelons there's lots of mixing of culture, rap and rock, sport, tv programs etc.. but in the higher echelons, your harvards and new hampshires, they'll encourage students to learn to play classical music, academia etc... that's what european culture was based on, the arts and sciences, law etc...I think it should available for everyone regardless of background, but there are cultural/social factors blocking people. Crime is a big aspect to the problem and keeping people downtrodden and dispirited.

So going back to my post which you replied to, I would rather the classical european higher culture was the dominant culture rather than rap music, silly soap operas and endless sport, [ things both white people and people of colour seem to like] it's something to aspire to, for example I like gaming but I wouldn't want people to give up reading great books just to play video games, it won't be good for society.

[ This answer was based on my thinking of the US situation, I think the uk is more complicated as you've got a very entrenched class system too, away from the mass cultural, shared things like football, there are cultural differences/traditions between groups and within groups. It's the lack of any traditions/hobbies to occupy themselves that seems to cause the most problems for people, as they can get sucked into a life of crime or trouble]

 

[mack341]

I'd like to think it was consistent.

Those who support the principle of ethnocentrism for example might not see anything wrong with it. I'm not saying that's you mack.

I was not thinking about morality to be honest. At least not in the descriptive sense. Perhaps my thoughts were more inline with, let's say an application (in some level) of categorical imperative by Kant. I was doing some light reading earlier

You always do this to me, as soon as I see that name 'kant', I knew I'm kippered wish I understood all that philosophical logic, I guess that's why you took up law, it's logic/argument/evidence based, requiring a much deeper understanding of words than I can ever grasp...

I was going to say in another draft, that you have previously kind of stated you favour the democrats, so on that political basis, the change in demographics could/would be a good thing in your eyes.

My wonder with the democrats is how or when will they ever be able to successfully complete their objectives, aren't they rather setting themselves up these days as the party of continuous welfare, that seems to be their goal now, getting better and more widespread welfare assistance given out, it's not very inspirational, kind of 'this is the best we can hope for'? [that may not be their fault but a harsh reality of modern society with high unemloyment levels and wealth inequality]

 

[Harry_BKK]

This just popped up on my news feed.

When you see this you will know how "dirty" his reelection campaign will be because he cannot win on his merits or as Mr T says it on his “achomlishments”. He has to rely instead on lies and unfounded accusations (without ever showing any evidence).

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BTW, the commander-in-chief spells Al-Qaeda as ALCAIDA and "people" as "peopel". That should tell everyone that this guy has no clue about anything. He claims though to be a really "good speller".

And Mr T supporters have now a new chant. Instead of "Lock her up" it is now "Send her back". That is the state where this president has brought the country to.

 

[vorcirion]

Not entirely no, there is integration as the income levels go up, but you could've just as easily asked 'do you think latinos or native americans have different traditions to white people.' then it sounds a bit more silly. Many of the blacks were violently uprooted from africa and enslaved, so to some degree lost touch more with their african traditions than say a mexican would have.

In the lower echelons there's lots of mixing of culture, rap and rock, sport, tv programs etc.. but in the higher echelons, your harvards and new hampshires, they'll encourage students to learn to play classical music, academia etc... that's what european culture was based on, the arts and sciences, law etc...I think it should available for everyone regardless of background, but there are cultural/social factors blocking people. Crime is a big aspect to the problem and keeping people downtrodden and dispirited.

So going back to my post which you replied to, I would rather the classical european higher culture was the dominant culture rather than rap music, silly soap operas and endless sport, [ things both white people and people of colour seem to like] it's something to aspire to, for example I like gaming but I wouldn't want people to give up reading great books just to play video games, it won't be good for society.

Hmm I got kinda mixed messages in your post. You say there's integration as the income levels go up...but then you say in the lower echelons there's a lot of mixing of culture.
I live in one of the whitest countries in the world with pretty good income. And hey...I love classical music! But I don't see it being a dominant culture here at all We (well finnish people) love sports, saunas, sausages, nature etc. Kind of things that everyone has access to. Very few people like classical music here and these other "higher" class stuff. IMO integration comes from these other things that the majority like....rap, rock, pop, sports, tv etc.
Your european higher culture isn't the dominant culture in any country. Well maybe in Austria...don't know.

 

[dionysus]

well, to be fair, you don't have to be white skinned to celebrate a cultural identity; being a proud Canadian has nothing to do with skin colour

 

[mack341]

Hmm I got kinda mixed messages in your post. You say there's integration as the income levels go up...but then you say in the lower echelons there's a lot of mixing of culture.
I live in one of the whitest countries in the world with pretty good income. And hey...I love classical music! But I don't see it being a dominant culture here at all We (well finnish people) love sports, saunas, sausages, nature etc. Kind of things that everyone has access to. Very few people like classical music here and these other "higher" class stuff. IMO integration comes from these other things that the majority like....rap, rock, pop, sports, tv etc.
Your european higher culture isn't the dominant culture in any country. Well maybe in Austria...don't know.

What I was meaning is, those european cultural things are considered the peak and something to aspire to, I don't partake in them that much but I appreciate it's there. I would like it to remain that way, if the demographics change, say in the US, could be more mexicans or blacks etc... will the european classical culture [to give it a shortand] be on that pedestal still or will the dumbed down mass culture take over everything?

I think for social, maybe ethnic reasons, it will..rap music, violent films, sport, will dominate even more and I'm not sure that will make for a better country to live in [there's also the spectre of p.o.r.n. and the corrosive effect that has on decent society]

edit: just re-reading your post, and you mention nature, to me that fits in better with classical music than say rap, rap is urban music...saunas and sausages that could be quite a potent air pollution risk, the heat and sweating out with the kind of sausages [bangers] we have here.
And that was a good point you made in the bold, I think I wasn't including mass culture as a tradition, say I moved to the USA started watching the nfl and episodes of the simpsons, wore my trousers hanging off my arse and talked in rap slang, I'd find it odd if that meant I'd integrated well into US society but in a way I would be I guess.

 

[mack341]

well, to be fair, you don't have to be white skinned to celebrate a cultural identity; being a proud Canadian has nothing to do with skin colour

But if the people who settled in canada hadn't settled there, [the scots, the french etc..] but say the usa pushed all their native americans and released slaves to colonise it instead, would canada be the same place culturally?

Obviously skin colour doesn't prevent someone today from integrating as long as they can talk the lingo well enough. If I turned up in canada, white and pasty, speaking brit english, how long would it take for canadians to accept me as a proud canadian, surely there must be some hurdles?

 

[dionysus]

But if the people who settled in canada hadn't settled there, [the scots, the french etc..] but say the usa pushed all their native americans and released slaves to colonise it instead, would canada be the same place culturally?

Obviously skin colour doesn't prevent someone today from integrating as long as they can talk the lingo well enough. If I turned up in canada, white and pasty, speaking brit english, how long would it take for canadians to accept me as a proud canadian, surely there must be some hurdles?

not....really.
One of the biggest differences between the states and here, is the idea of the mosaic vs the melting pot.
Whereas the US is more a ..park your culture at the door and integrate, Canada is more a..bring your culture in and combine it for the greater whole.

Yes, yes, of course, there are limits - socially everyone has to adapt to the wider accepted set of standards; but colour isn't a criteria. If everyone were white, off-white or w/e....speaking toward colour alone...nothing would really change. Ideals of course, need to be broadly the same....colours rather run the gamut here.
I'm about as aryan a poster child as it gets...6', blonde hair, fair skin, blue eyes. My neice however, is brown, most of my cousins are mulatto; when I go out to the bar, there's probably very, very few white euro caucasians vs 'other'


edit - sorry, still broadly 'euro'-centric; not thowever, where would would think Ir/Sc/Br, etc

 

[dionysus]

lol, as an example, I just pulled up my friends list
putting aside nationailities, I came across on a quick scroll of about 100 people, 3 blonde friends
- 2 dye their hair, the third is my brother
Nationality-wise, well, I'd say Canadian; but to compare when I lived say, in the US with my three zillion blonde neighbours, minus any from south of the border, here you'd have a much, much broader mix of heritage..beyond say, roots in what would generally be classified as 'typical' Eur-Caucasian (Ir/Sc/Br/Grm)

 

[dionysus]

a quick google shows that roughly better than half of the Canadian population is 'white' (ie Eur-caucasian, or not 'visible minority) - note these numbers bounce generally around the 65 (wh) v 35 (other) mark
Of course, that also means, roughly half the population ISN'T what one would normally identify as 'white' (so here, at least, majority/minority is nearly moot, or given, a generation or 2 will be), bearing in mind as well, 'white' generally means, not brown/black, so that 'just' white majority includes olive skinned, off-white etc

when polled (statistics Canada), the most commonly identified ethnic origins were (2016): Canadian
ie when asked, what is your ethnic origin, the most common response simply was...Canadian

 

[mack341]

This just popped up on my news feed.

When you see this you will know how "dirty" his reelection campaign will be because he cannot win on his merits or as Mr T says it on his “achomlishments”. He has to rely instead on lies and unfounded accusations (without ever showing any evidence).

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BTW, the commander-in-chief spells Al-Qaeda as ALCAIDA and "people" as "peopel". That should tell everyone that this guy has no clue about anything. He claims though to be a really "good speller".

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And Mr T supporters have now a new chant. Instead of "Lock her up" it is now "Send her back". That is the state where this president has brought the country to.

I think he uses the phonetic spelling so he doesn't mangle and mispronounce them? He has been scraping the barrel a bit with his criticisms of these 4 women, he's hardly given many examples, it seems in america, the terms and scope of debate are limited, it's very easy to be accused by opponents of being anti american. Trump's been accused of it himself, of being a russian patsy etc...

I've always said the debate should be about the policies rather than the style, that can come later as an add-on.

 

[Harry_BKK]

I think he uses the phonetic spelling so he doesn't mangle and mispronounce them? He has been scraping the barrel a bit with his criticisms of these 4 women, he's hardly given many examples, it seems in america, the terms and scope of debate are limited, it's very easy to be accused by opponents of being anti american. Trump's been accused of it himself, of being a russian patsy etc...

I've always said the debate should be about the policies rather than the style, that can come later as an add-on.

The president of the United States needs commonly known words written in phonetic spelling because he can't pronounce them? And a word like "people"?

Sorry mack, that makes it even worse, that puts him where he actually always is, at the 5th-grader level.

He has been siding with Putin on anything he can, so what would you call him? And still hasn't imposed all sanctions he was supposed to do as per the bills passed by Congress.

Google Hitler's early rallies if you want to hear the same chant from the crowd: "Send them back" or "Go back". Nobody took it too seriously in the beginning, only to realize it became normality and ended in horror. And Mr T promotes some very similar nationalist ideas.

 

[Harry_BKK]

On another note, what would you think when you see this military build-up of US forces in the Saudi-Arabian desert? That goes on top of all bases they already have in the region. And these are just the preparations for the arrival of the actual troops.

Mr T not planning for war?

 

[ternur]

On another note, what would you think when you see this military build-up of US forces in the Saudi-Arabian desert? That goes on top of all bases they already have in the region. And these are just the preparations for the arrival of the actual troops.

Mr T not planning for war?

It's a scary thought. Some idiot move either on the Persian Gulf or the South China Sea could be devastating. It's a good thing the commander in chief is a level-headed thinking man. All hail the supreme leader!

But at least the national security advisor is not that hawkish so perhaps the American neocolonialism will not raise its ugly head this time.

 

[mack341]

bbc:

"A bid to launch impeachment proceedings against President Donald Trump has been blocked in the US House of Representatives.
Texas Democrat Al Green filed the resolution after the House voted to denounce Mr Trump's attacks aimed at four US congresswomen as racist.
But the measure failed to win enough support, with his fellow Democrats voting overwhelmingly against."

I think Mr Green should've waited till after the mueller appearance before congress, that makes more sense to me in case something comes out of that, not that I'm saying he should be impeached [I don't think he should]

A lot of baloney about the russians helping him to win, just the implausibility of that strikes me. If the russians were that capable they would've helped corbyn beat theresa may in 2017, you can't blame the unpopularity of things like hillary clinton, and here in the uk, membership of the EU, on the russians. It's puerile and anti democratric of the elites to not accept their candidates and policies are sometimes just too unpopular, make compromises rather than trying to get all your own way in democracies where people get a vote.

And Mr T supporters have now a new chant. Instead of "Lock her up" it is now "Send her back". That is the state where this president has brought the country to.

Google Hitler's early rallies if you want to hear the same chant from the crowd: "Send them back" or "Go back". Nobody took it too seriously in the beginning, only to realize it became normality and ended in horror. And Mr T promotes some very similar nationalist ideas.

I'm not really sure trump's policies are comparable to the third reich, but saying that I don't like these chants of 'send them back' however if you poke something enough times you will get a reaction, the far left [not only these four women, but the sjw movement] are conducting a front on attack on conservative america, who are not just going to sit there and take it. The left have been using hysterical politics for some time now, without it seems caring or realising, there will be a stronger response from conservative people who disagree with them.

 

[Steviedoo]

bbc:

"A bid to launch impeachment proceedings against President Donald Trump has been blocked in the US House of Representatives.
Texas Democrat Al Green filed the resolution after the House voted to denounce Mr Trump's attacks aimed at four US congresswomen as racist.
But the measure failed to win enough support, with his fellow Democrats voting overwhelmingly against."

I think Mr Green should've waited till after the mueller appearance before congress, that makes more sense to me in case something comes out of that, not that I'm saying he should be impeached [I don't think he should]

A lot of baloney about the russians helping him to win, just the implausibility of that strikes me. If the russians were that capable they would've helped corbyn beat theresa may in 2017, you can't blame the unpopularity of things like hillary clinton, and here in the uk, membership of the EU, on the russians. It's puerile and anti democratric of the elites to not accept their candidates and policies are sometimes just too unpopular, make compromises rather than trying to get all your own way in democracies where people get a vote.





I'm not really sure trump's policies are comparable to the third reich, but saying that I don't like these chants of 'send them back' however if you poke something enough times you will get a reaction, the far left [not only these four women, but the sjw movement] are conducting a front on attack on conservative america, who are not just going to sit there and take it. The left have been using hysterical politics for some time now, without it seems caring or realising, there will be a stronger response from conservative people who disagree with them.

Meanwhile there has been investigation after investigation that he was helped by the Russians...150 contacts with Russians from his people.....but no....he won fair and square....and let’s not believe anything but what Trump tells us. Cuz he never lies.
I really don’t get what the appeal is with this man. The hate he spews on a daily basis is despicable. WORDS MATTER. Sorry.

Oh we don’t like what he says but we like his policies....doesn’t hold anymore.

There is no bottom with this guy. Just when you think...this is bad....but nope he sinks even lower, bringing the bar even lower every single time ...the next new president whether it be in 2020 or 2024 is gonna have it easy. Cuz the bar has been set so low that no matter what they will do they will shine.

 

[mack341]

Meanwhile there has been investigation after investigation that he was helped by the Russians...150 contacts with Russians from his people.....but no....he won fair and square....and let’s not believe anything but what Trump tells us. Cuz he never lies.
I really don’t get what the appeal is with this man. The hate he spews on a daily basis is despicable. WORDS MATTER. Sorry.

Oh we don’t like what he says but we like his policies....doesn’t hold anymore.

There is no bottom with this guy. Just when you think...this is bad....but nope he sinks even lower, bringing the bar even lower every single time ...the next new president whether it be in 2020 or 2024 is gonna have it easy. Cuz the bar has been set so low that no matter what they will do they will shine.

I think the russia gate [I won't say hoax] blown up accusations was a disingenuous response by the establishment [and that includes the deep state and their agencies, cia/fbi/NSA etc..] to Trump beating their favoured candidate Hillary, they couldn't accept large parts of the public weren't keen on her or her policies [as she pretty much represents the establishment agenda/foreign policy goals etc..] so they needed to say and convince the public it wasn't true, that instead hillary had been cheated and unfairly defeated.

If the russian linked facebook/twitter posts etc.. influenced the vote, and that is a very big if, that is more than matched by the unfavourable and biased msm coverage Trump received every day across tv and newspaper...despite all that he still won.

I probably would have abstained in the vote, not sure I could vote for trump if I'd been exposed to his self publicising and aggrandisement antics as much as americans have over the years, be a bit like voting for a piers morgan or alan sugar to be our prime minister. Not something I'd be keen for, as I don't enjoy their full of themselves/ abrasive characters. I couldn't bring myself to vote for hillary though either.

There's got to be a middle of the road, common sense candidate somewhere in the democrat and republican parties, maybe though things have become too tribal in the US for that now, the differences between left and right too entrenched.

 

[Harry_BKK]

And the 5th-grader level is confirmed yet again when Mr T was asked about the "sent her back" chants at his rally.

First, he lied that he quickly started speaking again where he actually waited some 12 seconds to bask in the chants. And then the perfect 5th-grader excuse.

"I did not say that, it was them!" (referring to his supporters)

 

[Harry_BKK]

Draining the swamp Mr T said. This story popped up when I loaded YT today.

Typical wheeling and dealing of a braggart realtor and snake oil salesman.

 

[Steviedoo]

And the 5th-grader level is confirmed yet again when Mr T was asked about the "sent her back" chants at his rally.

First, he lied that he quickly started speaking again where he actually waited some 12 seconds to bask in the chants. And then the perfect 5th-grader excuse.

"I did not say that, it was them!" (referring to his supporters)

It’s gonna happen again. Just like lock her up....let’s see how fast he will shut it down....right.

 

[mack341]

Draining the swamp Mr T said. This story popped up when I loaded YT today.

Typical wheeling and dealing of a braggart realtor and snake oil salesman.

That's much more like the kind of political things to highlight and pursue, cronyism and donor influence corruption, if you can find something like that each week, you build a case against someone's politics and how they've been performing their role in office that way.

I think fighting trump on the wall so hard without a realistic alternative proposition, the identity politics and russia gate stuff is a waste of time, much better to focus on things most can agree are wrong and not partisan motivated.

It's far more journalistic too, holding politicians to account on factual issues, maybe the msm are starting to realise that they need to set the 2020 agenda back onto more mundane middle of the road concerns that have been getting less attention than they deserve.

I don't think true conservatives like wheeler dealing and immoral trickster behaviour, probably democrats don't too, so that's something the majority can agree on.

 

[Harry_BKK]

That's much more like the kind of political things to highlight and pursue, cronyism and donor influence corruption, if you can find something like that each week, you build a case against someone's politics and how they've been performing their role in office that way.

I think fighting trump on the wall so hard without a realistic alternative proposition, the identity politics and russia gate stuff is a waste of time, much better to focus on things most can agree are wrong and not partisan motivated.

It's far more journalistic too, holding politicians to account on factual issues, maybe the msm are starting to realise that they need to set the 2020 agenda back onto more mundane middle of the road concerns that have been getting less attention than they deserve.

I don't think true conservatives like wheeler dealing and immoral trickster behaviour, probably democrats don't too, so that's something the majority can agree on.

For the same reasons as above, I do not think Acosta became labour secretary on pure merits or by natural selection. Same goes for EPA, OMB, CFPB and many other positions.

This is one proposal from Acosta. For what reason would he cut the funding?

"Acosta has also come under fire for his proposal to cut funding for victims of sex trafficking. His 2020 budget proposal for the Department of Labor includes an almost 80% decrease in funds for the Bureau of International Labor Affairs, the office tasked with fighting child sex trafficking. Critics of the proposal argue it would effectively dismantle many programs aimed at preventing child sex trafficking and put large numbers of children at risk."

 

[Harry_BKK]

It’s gonna happen again. Just like lock her up....let’s see how fast he will shut it down....right.

Oh this is only the start. IMO, it will get much worse until election day.

He decries socialism and the socialist ideas of these congresswomen but does subsidize farmers for the tariff malarkey. So it's OK where it suites him. Subsidies are one of the epitomes of socialism. He certainly accuses China exactly of the same thing.

I did not see anyone saying abandon the capitalist principle but what they said is healthcare for everyone (absolutely normal in any other developed nation), raising the minimum wage to $15 (all or most Republicans voted against), treat border crossers humanely (which is part of the UN Charta signed by the US, but why should Mr T care), stop separating families and especially babies (did you see the list? They took babies as young as 3 months old from their mothers!), the Green New Deal (will be needed sooner or later, but then Mr T covers for all his coal and oil friends).

All his supporters have benefited at some point in their lives from at least one government system/program which Mr T tries to paint as extreme socialist. Funny that they never declined when they needed it.

 

[slotplayer]

Hard to believe the Democratic party has moved left of Bernie Sanders.

The pig is walking babe.

 

[Steviedoo]

Hard to believe the Democratic party has moved left of Bernie Sanders.

The pig is walking babe.

And the gop has moved to the extreme right...alt right. Racist right..nazi right...

 

[slotplayer]

And the gop has moved to the extreme right...alt right. Racist right..nazi right...

Sounds like a winning message, lets hope the radical dems keep pushing it.

 

[Steviedoo]

Sounds like a winning message, lets hope the radical dems keep pushing it.

At least the socialist message the gop is accusing the left is not rooted in hate.

 

[mack341]

You two are the undisputed masters of the 1 line discussion

BTW trump is currently taking time off his other responsibilities and trying to help a black rapper called A$AP Rocky get out of a swedish jail

 

[Harry_BKK]

You two are the undisputed masters of the 1 line discussion

BTW trump is currently taking time off his other responsibilities and trying to help a black rapper called A$AP Rocky get out of a swedish jail

And got lectured that in some countries money and political might cannot influence the justice system unlike in the US. His wheeling and dealing being shown its limits.

And of course, he didn't inform himself at all how the system works in Sweden and that paying bail is not available. He simply thought that they will kowtow because the mighty Mr T is calling. Just shows yet again the ignorance that is so inherent to Mr T.

BTW, he said during his last rally: "I have so much time tonight because I have nothing to do!" - probably the first time ever he said the truth.

 

[mack341]

Kanye and some other celebs got on the blower to see if Don could help out, you can't blame them really. I would expect the swedes to now fast track the case, ASAP be fined and sent on his merry way. The longer trump is seen to fight this rapper's corner the more street cred and respect he'll gain from parts of the black community, if nothing else don knows a self promotional opportunity when he sees one...

 

[slotplayer]

At least the socialist message the gop is accusing the left is not rooted in hate.

yes, thanks, I forgot about the hate card.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Kanye and some other celebs got on the blower to see if Don could help out, you can't blame them really. I would expect the swedes to now fast track the case, ASAP be fined and sent on his merry way. The longer trump is seen to fight this rapper's corner the more street cred and respect he'll gain from parts of the black community, if nothing else don knows a self promotional opportunity when he sees one...

The Swedes are independent-minded people who will not kowtow to anyone, let alone adjust their judicial system because of a call from Mr T. They will go through the due process and follow the laws, unlike Mr T as one of his sycophants publicly said on Faux News at the time about the Supreme Court and the census question:

Hogan Gidley from the White House made a startling admission to Fox News host, Bill Hemmer. He said the president said: "Listen, I'm not going to be beholden to courts anymore. I have the legal authority to find out this information. The American people deserve to know it, so I'm moving forward with this method. "