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You read this and still think this man is not unhinged? That's he is not inflammatory? That he is going good for the world and the US?

"My great and unmatched wisdom..."

Who the hell says that about themselves unless a) Taking the piss or b) having a god complex.

Trust me, the answer isn't A
 
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You read this and still think this man is not unhinged? That's he is not inflammatory? That he is going good for the world and the US?

"My great and unmatched wisdom..."

Who the hell says that about themselves unless a) Taking the piss or b) having a god complex.

Trust me, the answer isn't A

That's quite a tweet! Better send Giuliani to fix things.
 
You'd think he was being sarcastic to the press but I think he actually means it

which bodes well

I just dont get how people like Slotplayer can think this is acceptable verbiage from a sitting US president. It's a clear and obvious threat, and is quite clearly the ramblings of a mad man...

How can the GOP stand by and let him destroy the USA and their appearance around the world?
 
I just dont get how people like Slotplayer can think this is acceptable verbiage from a sitting US president. It's a clear and obvious threat, and is quite clearly the ramblings of a mad man...

How can the GOP stand by and let him destroy the USA and their appearance around the world?
I think most will agree that his Twit tweets should be rescinded, and that he's about as presidential as my aunt Flo
 
I just dont get how people like Slotplayer can think this is acceptable verbiage from a sitting US president. It's a clear and obvious threat, and is quite clearly the ramblings of a mad man...

How can the GOP stand by and let him destroy the USA and their appearance around the world?

It's good thing his powers don't include initiating a WMD strike anywhere :eek2:. Because that would be scary.

Harold Hering: "How can I know that an order I receive to launch my missiles came from a sane president?" (that went well for him...)
 
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You read this and still think this man is not unhinged? That's he is not inflammatory? That he is going good for the world and the US?

"My great and unmatched wisdom..."

Who the hell says that about themselves unless a) Taking the piss or b) having a god complex.

Trust me, the answer isn't A

I usually don't follow his tweets unless the media or someone here posts them but I have to admit that tweet cracked me up.

I was going to post I'm surprised The Donald hasn't had a nervous breakdown by now.

I think that day has come.
 
I just dont get how people like Slotplayer can think this is acceptable verbiage from a sitting US president. It's a clear and obvious threat, and is quite clearly the ramblings of a mad man...

How can the GOP stand by and let him destroy the USA and their appearance around the world?

Don't leave me out of this equation, please. Anyway how do you know he was sitting he might have been standing... :oops: [I'll get me coat :laugh: ]
 
I just dont get how people like Slotplayer can think this is acceptable verbiage from a sitting US president. It's a clear and obvious threat, and is quite clearly the ramblings of a mad man...

How can the GOP stand by and let him destroy the USA and their appearance around the world?

You're putting words in my mouth.
 
The Syria thing including the tweet (in a futile effort to show strength that Caded Bone Spurs will never have) were a perfect example of Mr T.

When in trouble do something more outrageous to deflect!

But then I am not surprised because the USA has rarely given a toss about their allies and surely not under Mr T. See Taliban, Iran, Vietnam etc. They can all tell you how "wonderful" it is to have the USA as an ally. :rolleyes:
 
Wait...so you think GOP and FOX will turn against Trump?

You will need to tune in everyday to Fox to find out :p

I shall peruse the youtube uploads tonight and see if lou, tucker or laura are turning, but I doubt it, all that has changed is a tactical withdrawal from being in between two sworn enemies, 7,000 miles away from the usa. This move has been on the cards for over a year, the neo cons and hawks will rage but what is the alternative, a military confrontation with turkey in order to protect the pkk ?

from wikipedia [so make of it what you will ]

"PKK's involvement in drug trafficking has been documented since the 1990s. A report by Interpol published in 1992 states that the PKK, along with nearly 178 Kurdish organizations were suspected of illegal drug trade involvement. The British National Criminal Intelligence Service determined that the PKK obtained $75 million from drug smuggling in Europe in 1993 alone. Members of the PKK have been designated narcotics traffickers by the U.S. Department of the Treasury"

...The EUROPOL which has monitored the organization's activities inside the EU has also reported the organization's involvement in the trafficking of drugs and human beings to raise funds for its terrorist activities inside and outside the EU


BTW I'm not taking sides btween the turks and kurds, I'm sure the kurds living in turkey have legitimate grievances, but there are always two sides to the story, and we don't know enough about the pkk's activities etc..
 
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I was under the impression that there were three branches of government in the USA, for the purposes of checks and balances. And yet, since DT has been elected, he has been a one man band, riding roughshod over any and all opposition, and making unilateral threats and decisions that no-one appears to be allowed to challenge, because he believes he is the Best! The greatest! The most intelligent, knowledgeable person who has ever lived!

And now...his latest tweet. :eek:

Does anyone remember this?
Donald Trump just declared he won’t accept the results of the election if he loses, and he is going to lose.
“I will totally accept the results of this great and historic presidential election—if I win,” the Republican nominee said at a rally in Delaware, Ohio, on Thursday.

That was the beginning of his megalomania, as far as I am concerned. And as time as gone on, he has veered more and more to the right, to the extent that he really is on the verge of becoming a Dictator.

America, you are in serious trouble.
 
Remember he can be voted out, the washington establishment have been trying to get rid of him since day 1, and likely even months before using a counter-intelligence operation.

So I don't think he'd be in a position of power to annul the 2020 result if the dems unseat him, that itself looks unlikely atm, trump's about 6/5 to win which is pretty short. But the bookies were wrong the last time so who knows.

Bernie's had heart surgery now, so surely that must rule him out of the race shortly, the dems have effectively divided themselves into subsections, with the youth wing very 'progressive' or sjw depending on how you see things, they might vote for a moderate centrist if it meant unseating trump was the prize.

However If the graphic below of the 2016 result is accurate and I have no reason to believe otherwise, the dems must face a huge uphill task appealing to the broad vote rather than just voters from cities like los angeles and new york

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Remember he can be voted out, the washington establishment have been trying to get rid of him since day 1, and likely even months before using a counter-intelligence operation.

So I don't think he'd be in a position of power to annul the 2020 result if the dems unseat him, that itself looks unlikely atm, trump's about 6/5 to win which is pretty short. But the bookies were wrong the last time so who knows.

Bernie's had heart surgery now, so surely that must rule him out of the race shortly, the dems have effectively divided themselves into subsections, with the youth wing very 'progressive' or sjw depending on how you see things, they might vote for a moderate centrist if it meant unseating trump was the prize.

However If the graphic below of the 2016 result is accurate and I have no reason to believe otherwise, the dems must face a huge uphill task appealing to the broad vote rather than just voters from cities like los angeles and new york

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What establishment mack? Still buying the conspiracy theories? :rolleyes:

He won because of 70,000 votes in three states gave him those electoral votes and thus the win. To turn around 70,000 voters doesn't look like an uphill battle to me. The 2018 midterms are the proof for that.

IMO, the Biden thing is not the "big crime" Mr T and his sycophants committed (although the one that will probably get him impeached), I see it more as "cherry on top" for Mr T.

I think, the "bigger ticket" with Ukraine is Naftogaz. I suggest you google Naftogaz and read what efforts Guiliani, some shady Russian-American businessmen (who could not pay court-ordered damages but out of the blue donated huge sums to Mr T's super PAC and reelection fund), Rick Perry and others made to have "friends" being put on the board of Naftogaz and tried to get gas contracts to go to Texan friends of Mr T.

Why else would Sondland get so heavily involved in Ukraine although it wasn't his responsibility? Mr T gave him the post as ambassador to the EU (not Ukraine which is not part of the EU) after he donated $1 million to Mr T's PAC and reelection campaign. If you read this guy's history, it is filled with strange deals.

As I said from the beginning, the ominous phone call is probably not even the tip of the iceberg. Plus, we don't know what other stuff Mr T has hidden in his super-secret vault.
 
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You will need to tune in everyday to Fox to find out :p

I shall peruse the youtube uploads tonight and see if lou, tucker or laura are turning, but I doubt it, all that has changed is a tactical withdrawal from being in between two sworn enemies, 7,000 miles away from the usa. This move has been on the cards for over a year, the neo cons and hawks will rage but what is the alternative, a military confrontation with turkey in order to protect the pkk ?

from wikipedia [so make of it what you will ]

"PKK's involvement in drug trafficking has been documented since the 1990s. A report by Interpol published in 1992 states that the PKK, along with nearly 178 Kurdish organizations were suspected of illegal drug trade involvement. The British National Criminal Intelligence Service determined that the PKK obtained $75 million from drug smuggling in Europe in 1993 alone. Members of the PKK have been designated narcotics traffickers by the U.S. Department of the Treasury"

...The EUROPOL which has monitored the organization's activities inside the EU has also reported the organization's involvement in the trafficking of drugs and human beings to raise funds for its terrorist activities inside and outside the EU


BTW I'm not taking sides btween the turks and kurds, I'm sure the kurds living in turkey have legitimate grievances, but there are always two sides to the story, and we don't know enough about the pkk's activities etc..

Exactly. I didn't know the story when I posted earlier, but once I heard it I'm fine with "T"'s decision.

Kurds aren't going to be too happy, that's the 2nd time the US bailed.
 
I was under the impression that there were three branches of government in the USA, for the purposes of checks and balances. And yet, since DT has been elected, he has been a one man band, riding roughshod over any and all opposition, and making unilateral threats and decisions that no-one appears to be allowed to challenge, because he believes he is the Best! The greatest! The most intelligent, knowledgeable person who has ever lived!

And now...his latest tweet. :eek:

Does anyone remember this?
Donald Trump just declared he won’t accept the results of the election if he loses, and he is going to lose.
“I will totally accept the results of this great and historic presidential election—if I win,” the Republican nominee said at a rally in Delaware, Ohio, on Thursday.

That was the beginning of his megalomania, as far as I am concerned. And as time as gone on, he has veered more and more to the right, to the extent that he really is on the verge of becoming a Dictator.

America, you are in serious trouble.

More panic.
 
What establishment mack? Still buying the conspiracy theories? :rolleyes:

He won because of 70,000 votes in three states gave him those electoral votes and thus the win. To turn around 70,000 voters doesn't look like an uphill battle to me. The 2018 midterms are the proof for that.

IMO, the Biden thing is not the "big crime" Mr T and his sycophants committed (although the one that will probably get him impeached), I see it more as "cherry on top" for Mr T.

I think, the "bigger ticket" with Ukraine is Naftogaz. I suggest you google Naftogaz and read what efforts Guiliani, some shady Russian-American businessmen (who could not pay court-ordered damages but out of the blue donated huge sums to Mr T's super PAC and reelection fund), Rick Perry and others made to have "friends" being put on the board of Naftogaz and tried to get gas contracts to go to Texan friends of Mr T.

Why else would Sondland get so heavily involved in Ukraine although it wasn't his responsibility? Mr T gave him the post as ambassador to the EU (not Ukraine which is not part of the EU) after he donated $1 million to Mr T's PAC and reelection campaign. If you read this guy's history, it is filled with strange deals.

As I said from the beginning, the ominous phone call is probably not even the tip of the iceberg. Plus, we don't know what other stuff Mr T has hidden in his super-secret vault.

Remember just like there are 10 Democrats running now, back in 2016 there were 16 Republicans vying for the job. Anyone of them could have been the Republican nominee. Trump won it despite his demeanor. His message resonated with the voters.

Now he has a report card. Did he deliver, that is what the voters will be asking themselves.
 
What establishment mack? Still buying the conspiracy theories? :rolleyes:

He won because of 70,000 votes in three states gave him those electoral votes and thus the win. To turn around 70,000 voters doesn't look like an uphill battle to me. The 2018 midterms are the proof for that.

IMO, the Biden thing is not the "big crime" Mr T and his sycophants committed (although the one that will probably get him impeached), I see it more as "cherry on top" for Mr T.

I think, the "bigger ticket" with Ukraine is Naftogaz. I suggest you google Naftogaz and read what efforts Guiliani, some shady Russian-American businessmen (who could not pay court-ordered damages but out of the blue donated huge sums to Mr T's super PAC and reelection fund), Rick Perry and others made to have "friends" being put on the board of Naftogaz and tried to get gas contracts to go to Texan friends of Mr T.

Why else would Sondland get so heavily involved in Ukraine although it wasn't his responsibility? Mr T gave him the post as ambassador to the EU (not Ukraine which is not part of the EU) after he donated $1 million to Mr T's PAC and reelection campaign. If you read this guy's history, it is filled with strange deals.

As I said from the beginning, the ominous phone call is probably not even the tip of the iceberg. Plus, we don't know what other stuff Mr T has hidden in his super-secret vault.

The three bottom paragraphs read like a 'conspiracy theory' you want to be careful believing those Harry :D :p

You could be right, the tricks john perkins describes in his economic hitman books and talks are probably alive and well imo, many major politicians, including hillary will have links to oligarchs and sheiks etc.., with shady bits going on, donations and influence etc... Donald's been in real estate, that's a prime area the oligarchs like to invest in as it's a tangible asset which can provide good income/capital, so no doubt his paths have crossed with many 'interesting' characters.

But it's a bit like hunter biden, tucker mentioned this, that many, many children/relatives of US politicians benefit from association. So you would have to pick on them all rather than one to be fair, ditto senators and congressman and donors. If trump is put under a microscope so should they be.
 
You will need to tune in everyday to Fox to find out :p

I shall peruse the youtube uploads tonight and see if lou, tucker or laura are turning, but I doubt it, all that has changed is a tactical withdrawal from being in between two sworn enemies, 7,000 miles away from the usa. This move has been on the cards for over a year, the neo cons and hawks will rage but what is the alternative, a military confrontation with turkey in order to protect the pkk ?

from wikipedia [so make of it what you will ]

"PKK's involvement in drug trafficking has been documented since the 1990s. A report by Interpol published in 1992 states that the PKK, along with nearly 178 Kurdish organizations were suspected of illegal drug trade involvement. The British National Criminal Intelligence Service determined that the PKK obtained $75 million from drug smuggling in Europe in 1993 alone. Members of the PKK have been designated narcotics traffickers by the U.S. Department of the Treasury"

...The EUROPOL which has monitored the organization's activities inside the EU has also reported the organization's involvement in the trafficking of drugs and human beings to raise funds for its terrorist activities inside and outside the EU


BTW I'm not taking sides btween the turks and kurds, I'm sure the kurds living in turkey have legitimate grievances, but there are always two sides to the story, and we don't know enough about the pkk's activities etc..

You are picking out one part of the history to fit your argument.

Maybe reading more about the history of the Kurds would get you a better insight. The SDF in Syria are not the PKK, although there might be some connections. The SDF has been active a few years only to counter Assad and ISIS. If anything the Kurds have been a stabilizing force in the region.

And as expected the USA will sell them to the highest bidder. Nothing new.

Wait a few months and you will see an announcement that Turkey is buying a few billion $ worth of weaponry or similar stuff from the US if it makes it into public and doesn't end up on Mr T's super-secret server. :rolleyes:
 
The three bottom paragraphs read like a 'conspiracy theory' you want to be careful believing those Harry :D :p

You could be right, the tricks john perkins describes in his economic hitman books and talks are probably alive and well imo, many major politicians, including hillary will have links to oligarchs and sheiks etc.., with shady bits going on, donations and influence etc... Donald's been in real estate, that's a prime area the oligarchs like to invest in as it's a tangible asset which can provide good income/capital, so no doubt his paths have crossed with many 'interesting' characters.

But it's a bit like hunter biden, tucker mentioned this, that many, many children/relatives of US politicians benefit from association. So you would have to pick on them all rather than one to be fair, ditto senators and congressman and donors. If trump is put under a microscope so should they be.

Conspiracy theory it would be if the information would not be publicly available. Some governments are more transparent than Mr T's administration and publish read-outs, protocols etc. and don't hide it all on "super-secret" servers. I have been researching for days and I could make a post that covers a few pages. What got me started was that Mr T sent Perry to the inauguration of the new Ukraine president. Not him, not Pence, not Pompano or anyone higher up in the food chain. I took it from there and the above post is a rough outline of what transpired.

I always said that both sides should be investigated. The funny part is though that the Burisma case has been already investigated with no charges for the Bidens. But the new prosecutor is going over all cases again from the relevant period (IIRRC 2012 - 2018) and we should have a result at some point.

But then please, let's start investigating Kushner, Ivanka, Don Jr, Eric etc. E.g. the two sons have stated publicly "we get all the funding we need from Russia" because no US bank would give them a single penny.
 
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You are picking out one part of the history to fit your argument.

Maybe reading more about the history of the Kurds would get you a better insight. The SDF in Syria are not the PKK, although there might be some connections. The SDF has been active a few years only to counter Assad and ISIS. If anything the Kurds have been a stabilizing force in the region.

And as expected the USA will sell them to the highest bidder. Nothing new.

Wait a few months and you will see an announcement that Turkey is buying a few billion $ worth of weaponry or similar stuff from the US if it makes it into public and doesn't end up on Mr T's super-secret server. :rolleyes:

Well the turks certainly think they're connected and Ash carter, obama's man, admitted it on one occasion, I'd think it odd they weren't connected. The USA need turkey as an ally, they have an airbase there and radar systems etc... geopolitically they are of more value than the kurds.

The 'sdf' was a rebranding exercise precisely because the majority of the force is ypg kurdish militia.

from the nytimes 2018:

[copy and pasted as it's behind a paywall, but 1 article is free]

The Kurdish fighters who are battling the Islamic State jihadists in Syria are regarded by the United States as its most reliable partners there. But to Turkey, a NATO ally of the United States, these Kurds are terrorists.

The Kurdish group, known as the People’s Protection Units, or Y.P.G., is now facing an escalating battle with Turkish forces in northwestern Syria, complicating American policy.

The group has deep ties to the Kurdistan Workers’ Party, also known as the P.K.K. Both Turkey and the United States consider the P.K.K. to be a terrorist organization for its violent separatist movement inside Turkey.


While Y.P.G. leaders play down their P.K.K. ties, areas they control are festooned with photos of the imprisoned P.K.K. leader, Abdullah Ocalan, viewed by Turks the same way Americans viewed Osama bin Laden.

One thing is clear: The United States, which has relied heavily on Kurdish fighters to push the Islamic State out of northeastern Syria, has consistently understated the complexities of its alliance with the Kurds, a policy some analysts call willful ignorance.

“Obviously the U.S. chose to look the other way, out of what it deemed to be the necessity of building an alliance to quickly capture territory from Daesh,” said Noah Bonsey, a Syria analyst with the International Crisis Group, using the Arabic acronym of the Islamic State.

“The U.S. has sound reasons to continue to support the Y.P.G.,” he said, “but doing so while the P.K.K. maintains an active insurgency against its NATO ally is an unsustainable situation.”

The United States military’s official partner in Syria is a militia known as the Syrian Democratic Forces, which includes Arab and Assyrian fighters
but is dominated by the Y.P.G. The Americans de-emphasize such details.

....American officials have long sought to minimize the Y.P.G.’s ties to the P.K.K., but Turkey is enraged that the United States is giving military support to a group that idealizes Mr. Ocalan, the sole inmate of an island prison in the Sea of Marmara.
Many Y.P.G. leaders speak openly of their history with the P.K.K., and Kurds from Iraq, Iran and Turkey have joined the movement in Syria.


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I don't see how I am picking one part of history to fit anything, you'd prefer the USA troops in syria to front out the advancing turkish army, to help the kurds carve out their own nation on the turkish border, when none of the surrounding countries want this to happen? The americans would have to create permanent bases there to protect the kurds and fly stuff in all the time, and do this for decades, it's not feasible.

I'm not saying the sdf/kurds haven't fought bravely and it should be recognised somehow, but also by being stubborn about having their own homeland in syria on the turkish border they have forced the usa to choose, it's realpolitik, nothing to do with making a few billion, the pentagon probably wastes 10 times the amount of money the defence industry can aquire from sales to turkey imo.

I don't know all about the problems with the kurds and turks, they both follow sunni islam, so I haven't got a clue why they dislike each other vehemently, maybe the kurds were always the poorest out of the two and mistreated over the years as peasants etc..

Leningrad lindsey was saying the other week if the turks turn on the s400 system they purchased from russia, that's it the relationship/ally thing is over, so maybe this development with the kurds relates to that, the turks agreed to mothball the s400 if the US troops withdrew?
 
These are the words or maybe better called garbled garbage of a 5th-grader...ahem...US president. :rolleyes: Although maybe that is an insult to a 5th grader.

“I can tell you that the two countries that are the most disappointed that we’re leaving are China and Russia, because they love that we’re bogged down and just watching and spending tremendous amounts of money, instead of continuing to build our forces. We have tremendous amounts of weapons under development now.
We have weapons that no one can even believe, we’re going to be making some stops over the next four or five weeks, some we show, some we don’t show. But we’ve rebuilt our nuclear, we’ve renovated and rebuilt nuclear. We’re building submarines the likes of which they’ve never been even thought of before, the genius of them.
Hopefully and hope to God we never have to use them, but we are doing what we have to do, but we’ve been there for many years, long, many, many, many years beyond what we were supposed to be. Not fighting, just there.”

What's with his penchant for "nuclear"? :what:
 
Well the turks certainly think they're connected and Ash carter, obama's man, admitted it on one occasion, I'd think it odd they weren't connected. The USA need turkey as an ally, they have an airbase there and radar systems etc... geopolitically they are of more value than the kurds.

The 'sdf' was a rebranding exercise precisely because the majority of the force is ypg kurdish militia.

from the nytimes 2018:

[copy and pasted as it's behind a paywall, but 1 article is free]

The Kurdish fighters who are battling the Islamic State jihadists in Syria are regarded by the United States as its most reliable partners there. But to Turkey, a NATO ally of the United States, these Kurds are terrorists.

The Kurdish group, known as the People’s Protection Units, or Y.P.G., is now facing an escalating battle with Turkish forces in northwestern Syria, complicating American policy.

The group has deep ties to the Kurdistan Workers’ Party, also known as the P.K.K. Both Turkey and the United States consider the P.K.K. to be a terrorist organization for its violent separatist movement inside Turkey.


While Y.P.G. leaders play down their P.K.K. ties, areas they control are festooned with photos of the imprisoned P.K.K. leader, Abdullah Ocalan, viewed by Turks the same way Americans viewed Osama bin Laden.

One thing is clear: The United States, which has relied heavily on Kurdish fighters to push the Islamic State out of northeastern Syria, has consistently understated the complexities of its alliance with the Kurds, a policy some analysts call willful ignorance.

“Obviously the U.S. chose to look the other way, out of what it deemed to be the necessity of building an alliance to quickly capture territory from Daesh,” said Noah Bonsey, a Syria analyst with the International Crisis Group, using the Arabic acronym of the Islamic State.

“The U.S. has sound reasons to continue to support the Y.P.G.,” he said, “but doing so while the P.K.K. maintains an active insurgency against its NATO ally is an unsustainable situation.”

The United States military’s official partner in Syria is a militia known as the Syrian Democratic Forces, which includes Arab and Assyrian fighters
but is dominated by the Y.P.G. The Americans de-emphasize such details.

....American officials have long sought to minimize the Y.P.G.’s ties to the P.K.K., but Turkey is enraged that the United States is giving military support to a group that idealizes Mr. Ocalan, the sole inmate of an island prison in the Sea of Marmara.
Many Y.P.G. leaders speak openly of their history with the P.K.K., and Kurds from Iraq, Iran and Turkey have joined the movement in Syria.


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I don't see how I am picking one part of history to fit anything, you'd prefer the USA troops in syria to front out the advancing turkish army, to help the kurds carve out their own nation on the turkish border, when none of the surrounding countries want this to happen? The americans would have to create permanent bases there to protect the kurds and fly stuff in all the time, and do this for decades, it's not feasible.

I'm not saying the sdf/kurds haven't fought bravely and it should be recognised somehow, but also by being stubborn about having their own homeland in syria on the turkish border they have forced the usa to choose, it's realpolitik, nothing to do with making a few billion, the pentagon probably wastes 10 times the amount of money the defence industry can aquire from sales to turkey imo.

I don't know all about the problems with the kurds and turks, they both follow sunni islam, so I haven't got a clue why they dislike each other vehemently, maybe the kurds were always the poorest out of the two and mistreated over the years as peasants etc..

Leningrad lindsey was saying the other week if the turks turn on the s400 system they purchased from russia, that's it the relationship/ally thing is over, so maybe this development with the kurds relates to that, the turks agreed to mothball the s400 if the US troops withdrew?

The history of Kurds/Kurdistan is too complex to make it all about the PKK. It would take hours to type anything that would shed some clarity and put it all in historical context.

In essence, the Kurds always wanted their own state but they were never given a real chance to have it. They control now Northern Iraq as a semi-autonomous region with Erbil being the main city. But the area with Kurdish roots stretches far into Turkey and Syria as well as Iran.

BTW, the British Empire played quite a role in their history and as usual not necessarily a good one. :D
 
These are the words or maybe better called garbled garbage of a 5th-grader...ahem...US president. :rolleyes: Although maybe that is an insult to a 5th grader.

“I can tell you that the two countries that are the most disappointed that we’re leaving are China and Russia, because they love that we’re bogged down and just watching and spending tremendous amounts of money, instead of continuing to build our forces. We have tremendous amounts of weapons under development now.
We have weapons that no one can even believe, we’re going to be making some stops over the next four or five weeks, some we show, some we don’t show. But we’ve rebuilt our nuclear, we’ve renovated and rebuilt nuclear. We’re building submarines the likes of which they’ve never been even thought of before, the genius of them.
Hopefully and hope to God we never have to use them, but we are doing what we have to do, but we’ve been there for many years, long, many, many, many years beyond what we were supposed to be. Not fighting, just there.”

What's with his penchant for "nuclear"? :what:

Its one of his areas.
If you read up on the guy a bit you would know.. :D

 
So now he will not comply with the impeachment process and will only do so if they drop the impeachment. What!?

And he walked back the Kurd situation stating the USA is not abandoning them.

if He loses re election he will not go.

He’s going to create instability.
 
I haven't caught up to date with last night's prime time shows on fox news, I know many dislike trump but it must be very stressful, all of this, he's in good health but still a man in his 70's. Ceaseless personal attacks for 4 years now, when before for decades the same media feted him as a celebrity, helped promote him etc..

I blame the dems for this situation, why don't they just sort themselves out and win at the ballot box or are they incapable. The republican voters can decide who they want to represent them in the election, but I doubt it'll be mitt the rino romney.

Of course Trump will go if he loses, and all of the media that have worked tirelessly to boot him out of office, will suddenly be all over him again, inviting him on their shows for interviews, the tone will change overnight.

It's his populist policies they hate so much, once he's out of power all will be forgiven on the personal level, to them he will be good old donald the showman and real estate tycoon again.

The kurds need to lay down their weapons and go back to being normal citizens of whichever country they lived in before, iraq, turkey or syria, there is no future for them as a militia occupying land on or near the turkish border. How long have the 1,000 american troops got to be stationed there to protect them from the turks, already some US personnel have been murdered by extremists there, it's not a matter of US national security just more geopolitical maneuvering in the middle east with no reward imo.
 
I haven't caught up to date with last night's prime time shows on fox news, I know many dislike trump but it must be very stressful, all of this, he's in good health but still a man in his 70's. Ceaseless personal attacks for 4 years now, when before for decades the same media feted him as a celebrity, helped promote him etc..

I blame the dems for this situation, why don't they just sort themselves out and win at the ballot box or are they incapable. The republican voters can decide who they want to represent them in the election, but I doubt it'll be mitt the rino romney.

Of course Trump will go if he loses, and all of the media that have worked tirelessly to boot him out of office, will suddenly be all over him again, inviting him on their shows for interviews, the tone will change overnight.

It's his populist policies they hate so much, once he's out of power all will be forgiven on the personal level, to them he will be good old donald the showman and real estate tycoon again.

The kurds need to lay down their weapons and go back to being normal citizens of whichever country they lived in before, iraq, turkey or syria, there is no future for them as a militia occupying land on or near the turkish border. How long have the 1,000 american troops got to be stationed there to protect them from the turks, already some US personnel have been murdered by extremists there, it's not a matter of US national security just more geopolitical maneuvering in the middle east with no reward imo.

Im not sure he has had to withstand more personal attacks than other presidents, surely not more than Obama.
And even if it were true, you cant really compare the two, since Donald spews crazy crap every single day, so he is an easy target.

Imagine how the media would have looked if Obama had said 10% of the crazy things Trump says on a daily basis.
Instead of blaming the dems, why not blame the grown ass man who says the crazy things? =)

Edit: Ive always been a bit of an ass-man myself.
 
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Im not sure he has had to withstand more personal attacks than other presidents, surely not more than Obama.
And even if it were true, you cant really compare the two, since Donald spews crazy crap every single day, so he is an easy target.

Imagine how the media would have looked if Obama had said 10% of the crazy things Trump says on a daily basis.
Instead of blaming the dems, why not blame the grown ass man who says the crazy things? =)

Edit: Ive always been a bit of an ass-man myself.

No I think other than fox, obama was viewed by the msm as a saint come to help people [except if they happened to be in libya or yemen]

Trump's not obama, if you take someone of donald's age/generation in the US, they probably share many of the same opinions. All the boasting etc.. is silly but I doubt people take him at his word, when he say's 'I'm the greatest' or 'this is the best ever deal' etc... it mostly goes in one ear and out the other, and trump's probably not a great details man, poring over legal text and studying information, so all the bluff talk fills the time so he doesn't have to provide detail.

However some of his intincts, imo are right about policies, people want change they don't want more hillary clinton obama guff, trump may fail this test to bring about real change but who else is there even talking about the problems that worry many conservative americans.

leningrad lindsey, moscow mitch, rino romney are all a bit of a joke and out of touch.
 
No I think other than fox, obama was viewed by the msm as a saint come to help people [except if they happened to be in libya or yemen]

Trump's not obama, if you take someone of donald's age/generation in the US, they probably share many of the same opinions. All the boasting etc.. is silly but I doubt people take him at his word, when he say's 'I'm the greatest' or 'this is the best ever deal' etc... it mostly goes in one ear and out the other, and trump's probably not a great details man, poring over legal text and studying information, so all the bluff talk fills the time so he doesn't have to provide detail.

However some of his intincts, imo are right about policies, people want change they don't want more hillary clinton obama guff, trump may fail this test to bring about real change but who else is there even talking about the problems that worry many conservative americans.

leningrad lindsey, moscow mitch, rino romney are all a bit of a joke and out of touch.

Yeah he was def more favorably viewed, but he also kept a low profile compared to Trump.
I dont think Obama was some super-president, but in my opinion he had more presidential-vibe in a toe than Donald does in his entire being.
Donald has made the presidency into a reality-show, with all the shit that comes with it.

Just put some man or woman who is not crazy in the white house and ill be happy, no matter what side he/she is on politically.
 
This White House won’t cooperate with impeachment proceeding.

Reminder that there were TEN Benghazi investigations.

Hillary cooperated in every instance.

And she even testified for 11 hours straight.

That’s what an innocent person does.

Trump is guilty, pathetic & afraid.


And now the GOP is trying to distort this impeachment trial to their base and sell it as the dems are trying to overturn the 2016 elections. it Is unbelievable.


@mack341 youre living in fantasy land. You think that all the attention on trump is because the dems lost the election. All the attention is on trump because this is what he does. He calls attention to himself because he has some narcissistic personality. It started with the doctored photos of his inauguration and has degenerated into a circus with his wild claims and stupid behavior with no thought in what he is really saying or doing.only outrageous claims to distract.
 
Sorry but its all true.

Does Trump tweet using a sledge hammer when a tack hammer will do? Way more than he should.

Does the MSM over blow every exaggeration, usually negatively, absolutely.

Does the left think Trump stole the election via Russian meddling, of course they do. Hillary was just back on TV saying it.

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Trump should be delivered to kurdish hands if US wants to have allies in anything after this Syria thing. They can show what they think about abandoning allies.
 
Trump should be delivered to kurdish hands if US wants to have allies in anything after this Syria thing. They can show what they think about abandoning allies.

It's a thousand US troops. 5 were already killed this year.

Send Nato troops in or a 1000 from your country.
 
It's a thousand US troops. 5 were already killed this year.

Send Nato troops in or a 1000 from your country.

1000 troops that separated US's allies from death. But that's how you treat your allies and I'm sure it will be noted around the world.
 
There is this train of thought portrayed everywhere that American lives are somehow sacred and worth more, "I'm an American goddammit!!", along those lines.

By the same token, if in an alliance it's just one nation having all their troops offed whilst everyone else just goes "Too bad" then that would annoy me too. But then if America wants to be head of the table and dictate world affairs then that means more sacrifices I guess
 
There is this train of thought portrayed everywhere that American lives are somehow sacred and worth more, "I'm an American goddammit!!", along those lines.

By the same token, if in an alliance it's just one nation having all their troops offed whilst everyone else just goes "Too bad" then that would annoy me too. But then if America wants to be head of the table and dictate world affairs then that means more sacrifices I guess

I hear the same sacred thing when an AU or UK citizen is kidnapped.

Its more likely because the US has biggest military and economy that other countries look for it to take the lead.
 
Have the EU step up.

The US started the war in Iraq (on the basis of a big fat lie I might add) which led to the rise of ISIS, hence, you and you alone are responsible for the situation.

But typical, always calling for others to clean up your mess. :rolleyes:


BTW, NATO and many other countries have soldiers stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Your ignorance to the facts is, as usual, to be expected just like the US throwing allies under the bus.
 
Sorry but its all true.

Does Trump tweet using a sledge hammer when a tack hammer will do? Way more than he should.

Does the MSM over blow every exaggeration, usually negatively, absolutely.

Does the left think Trump stole the election via Russian meddling, of course they do. Hillary was just back on TV saying it.

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Is the impeachment about nullifying the 2016;election or is it about the president’s asking a foreign power for help. Please do not confuse the two like Moscow Mitch is trying to do. It’s called lying.
 
The US started the war in Iraq (on the basis of a big fat lie I might add) which led to the rise of ISIS, hence, you and you alone are responsible for the situation.

But typical, always calling for others to clean up your mess. :rolleyes:


BTW, NATO and many other countries have soldiers stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Your ignorance to the facts is, as usual, to be expected just like the US throwing allies under the bus.

No doubt the Iraq war was a big mistake. But as I recall the UK, Poland and I think Kuwait backed the war but as usual you want to not tell the full story, only if it suits your Anti-US narrative.

Sure NATO has troops from like 35 countries but the number of troops (non-combat) in Afghanistan are almost equal the 14K US troops.

The US can't stay forever.
 
Is the impeachment about nullifying the 2016;election or is it about the president’s asking a foreign power for help. Please do not confuse the two like Moscow Mitch is trying to do. It’s called lying.

Its about painting a cloud over Trump to give them a slight edge in 2020 because they can't win on their policies alone. It will backfire unless its a straight forward, easily understood impeachment charge.
 
Its about painting a cloud over Trump to give them a slight edge in 2020 because they can't win on their policies alone. It will backfire unless its a straight forward, easily understood impeachment charge.


It is straightforward your guys are making crap up. And most of us who used to be republicans would be more than happy to have Romney win the presidency.
 
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