North Korea and US politics

[dionysus]

Like I've mentioned before, sad and scary part is...you dont even have to look or google to 'bash Trump'; the man puts it right out there on Twitter and social media; he INVITES discussion

 

[sufferinsilence]

Also, at no point is the U.S a terrible place to live, comparable to before maybe, though people are finding it tough kind of everywhere presently. But if you want real persecution and hardships I could reel off a dozen countries where people have it tough even in blissful times, and the U/S 'ain't it', sorry

I think you're being a bit harsh there on Rena. Sure, there's far worse countries but for a 1st world civilized country the USA is trying its best to be bottom of the barrel.

 

[goatwack]

I think you're being a bit harsh there on Rena. Sure, there's far worse countries but for a 1st world civilized country the USA is trying its best to be bottom of the barrel.

Really? I would have placed it at the top. I can't envisage anyone giving up their U.S freedoms and Western ideals for any other country, truth be told

 

[dionysus]

Really? I would have placed it at the top. I can't envisage anyone giving up their U.S freedoms and Western ideals for any other country, truth be told

Canada

20 yrs ago, maybe Canadians wanted 'American' lifestyle
Now? not for a million dollars

 

[Kroffe]

 

[Kroffe]

 

[dionysus]

FTR no not saying Canada is fantastic
Just that the metric has changed
WE wanted to be them.Now, we see they want to be us
Dunno why,it's cold and dreary lol

 

[vorcirion]

Really? I would have placed it at the top. I can't envisage anyone giving up their U.S freedoms and Western ideals for any other country, truth be told

You really want to have the same systems for the UK that the US currently has? Healthcare/Policing/Social Security/Education etc?

 

[sufferinsilence]

Really? I would have placed it at the top. I can't envisage anyone giving up their U.S freedoms and Western ideals for any other country, truth be told

US freedoms? Like the ones where people chose not to visit their GP because it might cost them 100s of thousands of $ if it's something serious?

I think we can find much better Western countries.

 

[sufferinsilence]

FTR no not saying Canada is fantastic
Just that the metric has changed
WE wanted to be them.Now, we see they want to be us
Dunno why,it's cold and dreary lol

Like I posted in here (or the corona thread) the other day: we used to look up to America, the American Dream and all that. Now we feel bad for them. Maybe it's different if you actually live there, depending on your situation it most likely is too.

 

[goatwack]

You really want to have the same systems for the UK that the US currently has? Healthcare/Policing/Social Security/Education etc?

I'd trade places and relocate to the U.S, grab me a ticket and watch me go!

And at no point did I say it was a perfect utopian society, but I'd find it hard to believe anyone relinquishing their U.S freedoms and trade it with anyone else

 

[dionysus]

Like I posted in here (or the corona thread) the other day: we used to look up to America, the American Dream and all that. Now we feel bad for them. Maybe it's different if you actually live there, depending on your situation it most likely is too.

I'd say...half..my FB 'peeps' are American.
I loved living there.
I moved there for the American dream; riches and success
There's many, many great things about America

I wouldnt trade in my citizenship for immortality these days.
It's a whole new world.

Theyre our closest neighbours. Of COURSE we root for their success

 

[goatwack]

US freedoms? Like the ones where people chose not to visit their GP because it might cost them 100s of thousands of $ if it's something serious?

I think we can find much better Western countries.

Privatized healthcare is nothing new over there, it's not the be-all-and end-all in light of everything else their society affords them

 

[dionysus]

Privatized healthcare is nothing new over there, it's not the be-all-and end-all in light of everything else their society affords them

true, you also get classism, racism and 1% v 99%

 

[goatwack]

true, you also get classism, racism and 1% v 99%

You get that everywhere else too, only worse!

Though comparable to the U.K, racism isn't that prevalent here. The rest, x10

 

[dionysus]

You get that everywhere else too, only worse!

Though comparable to the U.K, racism isn't that prevalent here. The rest, x10

not....really
we are here, really, while not socialist, fairly so

IE middle of road, and much less THEM v US (rich v poor)

 

[goatwack]

not....really
we are here, really, while not socialist, fairly so

IE middle of road, and much less THEM v US (rich v poor)

Yes but Canada doesn't count. It's not even a real country

 

[dionysus]

Yes but Canada doesn't count. It's not even a real country

hey now eh, what you on aboot

 

[pinnit2014]

not....really
we are here, really, while not socialist, fairly so

IE middle of road, and much less THEM v US (rich v poor)

You should come live in Scotland then - got the same cold, rain, and drearyness of Canada (maybe minus the nice people)

And in Old Nick (sorry, Nicola) a fairly leftward leaning shower of bampots in power

 

[Kroffe]

Yes but Canada doesn't count. It's not even a real country

You are thinking of Finland.
Finland does not exist.

 

[vorcirion]

You get that everywhere else too, only worse!

Though comparable to the U.K, racism isn't that prevalent here. The rest, x10

What countries are you thinking when you're comparing them to the US like this?

 

[dionysus]

You should come live in Scotland then - got the same cold, rain, and drearyness of Canada (maybe minus the nice people)

And in Old Nick (sorry, Nicola) a fairly leftward leaning shower of bampots in power

Had a wonderful vacation there
Was maybe, the only place, the pubs as packed at 10am as 10pm

 

[sufferinsilence]

Privatized healthcare is nothing new over there, it's not the be-all-and end-all in light of everything else their society affords them

 

[goatwack]

What countries are you thinking when you're comparing them to the US like this?

It doesn't even matter which countries I'd cite, because you'd clearly disagree anyway. So let's leave it at that eh?

 

[vorcirion]

It doesn't even matter which countries I'd cite, because you'd clearly disagree anyway. So let's leave it at that eh?

Of course it matters which countries you'd cite But sure whatever you want!