NOO! Bet365 to pull out of the Australian market!

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Due to Bet365 looking to gain an Australian Sports Bet licence they will no longer be able to offer Australians there casino, poker, games and bingo :(


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We're in the process of applying for a Sports betting licence in Australia. As part of our preparations for this, we regret to inform you that our Casino, Poker, Games and Bingo sites will no longer be available from week commencing 22nd August.

Any funds currently in your Casino, Poker, Games and Bingo balances will be transferred to your Sports balance. Our Sports site will continue to work as normal.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this may cause.


I'am going to try chase up some more info on this.

What do my fellow Aussies think of this?
 

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Due to Bet365 looking to gain an Australian Sports Bet licence they will no longer be able to offer Australians there casino, poker, games and bingo :(


Seems this has been in process since May :/ so maybe most of you knew and I'am a little slow on this on :p as this is the first I had heard of it.

The U.K/Ireland really has a foot hold on the Australian sports market now :p First Paddy Powers taking over Iasbet, Sportsbet and now Bet365 pushing into the market.
 

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Well, it was not very long ago they stopped offering some of the "pokies" available in the games section to Australian players.

Pity you've lost the rest of the casino offerings, they are a very good outfit.

It's kind of sad that they have known this is coming down the pipe for months, to give players such short notice to settle their accounts.

There well be players with bonus funds to still play, and sometimes people are off or on holidays without checking emails. Many players sign up with casinos with unique email addresses they don't check often.

I expect they will find some satisfactory arrangement for those players.
 

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Very short-sighted.

No entity ever has or ever will be prosecuted or even charged under our weak law so its just being done to improve their chances of entering a more lucrative market.

I don't know why someone doesn't lobby for online casinos in Australia as everybody does it anyway so why not keep the cash here?
 

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Very short-sighted.

No entity ever has or ever will be prosecuted or even charged under our weak law so its just being done to improve their chances of entering a more lucrative market.

I don't know why someone doesn't lobby for online casinos in Australia as everybody does it anyway so why not keep the cash here?

These are my thoughts as well Nifty, It makes no sense at all. Surely they where doing well without the licence.

Bet365 also had *in play betting* in there favour on the sports betting side of things but that is NOT permitted with an Australian licence so they may lose some punters.

I think TAB (Tabaret) or Tatts should push for online gaming now that they have lost there monopoly of Pokie machines. We can gamble away at horses, tattlsotto, afl, soccer, events overseas and who the next prime minister is ganna be ffs all online, so why not a few spins on slots :p.

Not to mention a fair chunk of online casino software is developed here in Australia, we provide a fair chunk of personal to online casinos whether it be for live chat , email support and affiliate programs.

Starting to ramble now on not much sleep :)
 

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The Oz government seems dead set against legalising online gambling; last year the Productivity Committee recommended such a course after a comprehensive review of the industry in Australia, but it was rejected by the government (there was a statement from a minister named Jenny Macklin, I recall). And then you have another minister - Stephen Conroy - trying to censor the internet....it's not a pretty picture.

As for the hypocrisy of governments discriminating against perticular forms of gambling....well, I think that is something just about all of them do!
 

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The Oz government seems dead set against legalising online gambling; last year the Productivity Committee recommended such a course after a comprehensive review of the industry in Australia, but it was rejected by the government (there was a statement from a minister named Jenny Macklin, I recall). And then you have another minister - Stephen Conroy - trying to censor the internet....it's not a pretty picture.

As for the hypocrisy of governments discriminating against perticular forms of gambling....well, I think that is something just about all of them do!

You had to mention Stephen Conroy :mad: but thats a different matter and topic :cool:

This was a statement made by Jenny Macklin back in 2010

The Australian Government does not support the liberalisation of online gaming, including online poker, as recommended by the Productivity Commission.

The Government is not convinced that liberalising online gaming would have benefits for the Australian community which would outweigh the risks of an increased incidence of problem gambling, particularly with the rapid changes in technology.

The current prohibition on the provision of online gaming services to Australians will continue to apply.

The Government will examine the regulatory approach taken by other countries with similar regulatory regimes in relation to online gaming, such as the United States.

In particular, we will seek to work with other countries to investigate the possibility of a more effective multilateral regulatory regime to address this form of gambling, its social impacts and its impact on the Australian gambling industry.


God forbid we follow the United States *Regulatory* approach
 

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I wonder if this will flow onto New Zealand. I note that many casinos won't allow me to become a player due to legal issues in my area/country. Of course they mean Australia not New Zealand where it is, as yet, still ok as far as I am aware.
 

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Here is another interesting article on the subject,

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Nifty's point above : No entity ever has or ever will be prosecuted or even charged under our weak law so its just being done to improve their chances of entering a more lucrative market.

Interactive Gambling Act of 2001. However, those laws are not enforced. The Australian Federal Police has received 17 complaints since 2001 about suspected illegal operators, but no charges have been laid.



Love the last part

Lawyer and gambling expert Jamie Nettleton, of Sydney's Addisons lawyers, said the industry wanted to be regulated. Overseas, regulations had been introduced in Britain, Italy and France, and even the United States was moving in that direction, he said.
''History shows that prohibition doesn't work.''
 

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Here is another interesting article on the subject,

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Nifty's point above : No entity ever has or ever will be prosecuted or even charged under our weak law so its just being done to improve their chances of entering a more lucrative market.

Interactive Gambling Act of 2001. However, those laws are not enforced. The Australian Federal Police has received 17 complaints since 2001 about suspected illegal operators, but no charges have been laid.



Love the last part

Lawyer and gambling expert Jamie Nettleton, of Sydney's Addisons lawyers, said the industry wanted to be regulated. Overseas, regulations had been introduced in Britain, Italy and France, and even the United States was moving in that direction, he said.
''History shows that prohibition doesn't work.''

Looks like I got my credibility back after losing it all in that "should I leave RTG" thread.

Phew!!
 

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:sob::mad::mad::mad:

I only found out about this today also.:(

Can someone tell me where i can play playtech games and slots that wants me and pays as fast as bet365 (within 01-24 hours 7 days a week) pleazzzzze?
 

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I wonder if this will flow onto New Zealand. I note that many casinos won't allow me to become a player due to legal issues in my area/country. Of course they mean Australia not New Zealand where it is, as yet, still ok as far as I am aware.

I haven't had any issues - any ones in particular?
 

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Betfred. Very good outfit. Monthly 100% bonus too.

Usually pay in 24-48.

Any of you guys down under tried signing up for Moneygaming? They have some Aristo games on the agenda but not sure if Oz is accepted
 

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:sob::mad::mad::mad:

I only found out about this today also.:(

Can someone tell me where i can play playtech games and slots that wants me and pays as fast as bet365 (within 01-24 hours 7 days a week) pleazzzzze?
Beside Betfred I also do recommend these Playtech casinos, but I'm not sure which of these accept australian players:
  • Totesport Casino (pays usually within 12 hours, max. within 24 hours)
  • Dafa888 (pays within 24 hours)
  • CentreBet Casino (pays within 48 hours)
 

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Beside Betfred I also do recommend these Playtech casinos, but I'm not sure which of these accept australian players:
  • Totesport Casino (pays usually within 12 hours, max. within 24 hours)
  • Dafa888 (pays within 24 hours)
  • CentreBet Casino (pays within 48 hours)

Just an FYI, you have to use an eWallet (or Wire Transfer) with Dafa888 while Tote (which is excellent) doesn't support Neteller right now - wonder if that will change now they are taken over by Betfred.
 

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Any of you guys down under tried signing up for Moneygaming? They have some Aristo games on the agenda but not sure if Oz is accepted

Thanks Simmo...but they obviously don't want Aussies.

Signed up at moneygaming and I have the choice of a whole 4 slots :rolleyes:

They are all awful as well - just 3 card slot, skill slot, multiline slot and some other one.
 

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Beside Betfred I also do recommend these Playtech casinos, but I'm not sure which of these accept australian players:
  • Totesport Casino (pays usually within 12 hours, max. within 24 hours)
  • Dafa888 (pays within 24 hours)
  • CentreBet Casino (pays within 48 hours)

CentreBet is out for Aussies due there Sports Betting Licence.


Bet365 are still sending out promos after telling everyone(Aussies) to empty there balances

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Good Luck!
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Any of you guys down under tried signing up for Moneygaming? They have some Aristo games on the agenda but not sure if Oz is accepted


Is this the casino you where playing 50 lions at? :laugh:

As far as I know its an Aristo decision not to allow Aussies to play there games as they would be in breach of there land based licence :( Shame really.
 

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Bumping an old thread.

I have been looking for a bit more information on this as I have not heard with this has headed so far.

Nifty, I found this interesting article on The Australian ( a local news paper for those who don't know ) with a small quote you may recognize.

Blogging on internet gambling sites yesterday showed embarrassing scorn for Australian regulators and Bet365's decision to withdraw casino services. "Very short-sighted. No entity ever has or ever will be prosecuted or even charged under our weak law so it's just being done to improve their chances of entering a more lucrative market. I don't know why someone doesn't lobby for online casinos in Australia as everybody does it anyway so why not keep the cash here?" was one comment posted on the Casinomeister site.


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Its amazing who is watching this site hey! :p


Does anyone have any recent news on Bet365? I am really trying to catch up and I have asked the people of the affiliate program a few times and received pretty vague responses.
 
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