New Slot - Space Wars (NetEnt)

I disagree that it doesn't matter.
With my "true random" slots (BTW, if you can think of better word(s) to describe what I mean I'd be happy to use them!) the RTP can ONLY be changed by altering the reel-strips or the paytable.
With other types of slot the RTP could be changed by a simple adjustment of a % setting in the back-end (like on UK pub fruit machines).
I'm not saying any online operators DO tweak their RTPs willy-nilly, but they could... and if they did it would be as good as impossible for players to detect it.
Changes to the reel-strips and paytable are FAR more likely to be noticed (e.g. Fruit Frenzy)

KK

But Netent list the RTP of all their slots in the help file anyway, so unless we're worried that they'll stealthily lower the RTP and leave an incorrect help file in place, that's not an issue.

Besides which KK, with modern video slots being so complicated, even a slot with 'proper reels' could be messed about with RTP wise by just tweaking the bonus rounds, and leaving the reels the same. And anyway, Fruit Frenzy was only picked up on 'cause they messed up the reel change and left two pear symbols together on a reel, which stood out a mile, who would really notice a more subtle change?

As for the definition of 'true random', I'd say 'true random' is simply where the game result is a totally random pick from the entire set of possible results, nothing more than that. I think what you're talking about is 'random reel stops where the reels seen on screen are a true representation of the reels themselves and any position on the reels on any given spin has an equal chance of landing' - not as catchy though, I'll grant you that :)
 
Tried Space Wars yet?
It'll be interesting to hear what you think.

I like it but I'm not sure if it'll replace Lucky Angler in my affections, I expect it's really going to polarise opinion on here.
 
Tried Space Wars yet?
It'll be interesting to hear what you think.

I like it but I'm not sure if it'll replace Lucky Angler in my affections, I expect it's really going to polarise opinion on here.

I quite like it to be honest.

Lucky Angler? That game put me off of fishing for a long time.

I agree, I think this one will spark some dispute.
 
Tried Space Wars yet?
It'll be interesting to hear what you think.

I like it but I'm not sure if it'll replace Lucky Angler in my affections, I expect it's really going to polarise opinion on here.

hi andy

tried it with the free 10 spins you gave me. won about 8 euro. played doa with the 8 euro, got it up to 12 euro. back on space wars and eat it quickly at 0.40 a bet. enjoyed my free spins though thanks..
 
hi andy

tried it with the free 10 spins you gave me. won about 8 euro. played doa with the 8 euro, got it up to 12 euro. back on space wars and eat it quickly at 0.40 a bet. enjoyed my free spins though thanks..

Oh man, someone just won 13.5k on DOA at 45c a spin too!*
You really should have stayed on that slot with your 8 euros.

Just like Wobble anybody who has played on Redbet in the past 8 weeks should have an email with free spins in it. Good luck with them!



*Only kidding.
 
Oh man, someone just won 13.5k on DOA at 45c a spin too!*
You really should have stayed on that slot with your 8 euros.

Just like Wobble anybody who has played on Redbet in the past 8 weeks should have an email with free spins in it. Good luck with them!



*Only kidding.

yes andy doa dont like me EVER though :mad:

andy i have just took up your 50% offer. the reels are just constantly spinning on evolution, piggy riches etc..then i get this game is not available. finding it difficult to play any game at redbet at the min. whats up?
 
yes andy doa dont like me EVER though :mad:

andy i have just took up your 50% offer. the reels are just constantly spinning on evolution, piggy riches etc..then i get this game is not available. finding it difficult to play any game at redbet at the min. whats up?

That rather large win* from DOA is still counting up and may possibly be causing the problem. I think the screens still need to go through the Big, Mega Big, Stupidly Big, Insanely Big, Monstrously Big (You get the picture :p) animations...

*JJK :)

Nate
 
yes andy doa dont like me EVER though :mad:

andy i have just took up your 50% offer. the reels are just constantly spinning on evolution, piggy riches etc..then i get this game is not available. finding it difficult to play any game at redbet at the min. whats up?

Space Wars not loading for me either. Not tried any others.
 
found the ten free spins earlier today and was really excited to try the slot, however the ten free spins only generated 8 ct. and i even got the zap feature but it was a dud:( (cluttered up with some animals and dd not pay:
I should play it some more but waiting for the payday.
Still going on what i saw in the teaser, i reckon i do like this slot, but i cant be arsed to play it for fun unless theres a reason ( like your cool FB contest in March;p) so i'll be giving more feedback in a couple of days.
I definitely like the graphics, music and intro though!
 
ound the ten free spins earlier today and was really excited to try the slot, however the ten free spins only generated 8 ct. and i even got the zap feature but it was a dud:( (cluttered up with some animals and dd not pay:
I should play it some more but waiting for the payday.
Still going on what i saw in the teaser, i reckon i do like this slot, but i cant be arsed to play it for fun unless theres a reason ( like your cool FB contest in March;p) so i'll be giving more feedback in a couple of days.
I definitely like the graphics, music and intro though!

You're lucky - I got 0.02c on one set of FS and 0.04c on the other :notworthy - Both were 10 Spins

Edit: 4 Euro at Redbet on 10 Spins also...

Nate
 
yes andy doa dont like me EVER though :mad:

andy i have just took up your 50% offer. the reels are just constantly spinning on evolution, piggy riches etc..then i get this game is not available. finding it difficult to play any game at redbet at the min. whats up?

just cant play here at the moment, this is whats happening....
 

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Got 10 freespins from Redbet which paid nothing, like always. I won't even waste the time to take those freespins from now on.

I will never play Space Wars for real money. Infact i've gotten to the point where i'm done with NetEnt.

MG and VMS slots are much more fun and can actually pay something above 10x stake once in a while. ;)
 
I had a fairly prolonged session on this in free money mode when it appeared at Betsafe last week, TBH I don't think it's a bad slot. Bit of a one trick pony with the single respin thing going on, but aesthetically very pleasing and seems capable of some reasonable hits too.

I wouldn't rule out chucking the odd 100 spins at it in real money mode from time to time, which is more than can be said for the rest of Netent's output of late.
 
I got five free spins on this at Unibet. Only minimum stake so five spins at 40p.

Got rather lucky and hit a SUPER MEGA WIN (sigh) of just over £30 on the top paying red alien symbols on the respin.

Played on for a bit and got my balance up to £40, at which point I was getting a bit bored of it :D

Decamped to Evolution (the last great slot Netent have produced IMO) and landed 301x stake on a basic three scatters trigger. (£75.25 from a 25p spin.)

I'm really not sure how much I have to wager before I can withdraw anything though, as the terms don't really seem to make it clear.

How would you interpret these T&Cs?

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i really wanted to like this when i saw the promo vid, ive played it for real money, plenty of demo play and some free spins, the lack of a proper bonus round is a killer for me, the respin feature is nice, but its ability to produce no win at all and then continue doing the same for 30 normal spins puts me off.

biggest win so far has been around x75, and as much as i want to like it, i think ill be steering clear :(

until some posts a screen full of those crystals then ill probably play it again :D
 
I got five free spins on this at Unibet. Only minimum stake so five spins at 40p.

Got rather lucky and hit a SUPER MEGA WIN (sigh) of just over £30 on the top paying red alien symbols on the respin.

Played on for a bit and got my balance up to £40, at which point I was getting a bit bored of it :D

Decamped to Evolution (the last great slot Netent have produced IMO) and landed 301x stake on a basic three scatters trigger. (£75.25 from a 25p spin.)

I'm really not sure how much I have to wager before I can withdraw anything though, as the terms don't really seem to make it clear.

How would you interpret these T&Cs?

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Yeah, seems a little contradictory - 'all wins from bonus money remain bonus money' then it says 'bonus money must be wagered 25x'.
Basically I read it as:

Your initial winnings from the free spins are bonus cash, including 'reinvestment' winnings i.e. your extra £10 you made. At the point you leave the slot you have accrued the freespins bonus cash on, to meet bonus WR you must play in casino red. So, you've taken your circa £40 and now have a £1000 WR on any other games in casino red, at the proscribed %ages (i.e. slots count 100% of stake) to meet before being able to w/d. I see no mention of limits, so I assume you can make a cash w/d of whatever remains when you've wagered the circa £1000. You are exceptionally lucky to hit 75x stake on a freespin but most people taking this freespin offer would be unlikely to ever cash anything out.

Actually ignoe this as what you've added underneath makes the above mostly bollox.
 
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I'm in Live Chat now, there's nothing showing in my active bonuses in the My Account section, and the balance is only appearing if I launch a Netent game in Casino Red, not any other game in there. (If I launch Merlin's Millions for example, which is a non-Netent game in Casino Red, I have a zero balance.)

Also, there's nothing showing in my bet history on the My Account page for today, it finishes at last nights Ruby Slippers play.

EDIT - On the plus side I've been told I only won £1.92 off the free spins which gives a WR of just £48, I hit the £30 playing down that £1.92 (and then of course the hit on Evolution) so I only have £10.25 left to wager :D
 
I'm in Live Chat now, there's nothing showing in my active bonuses in the My Account section, and the balance is only appearing if I launch a Netent game in Casino Red, not any other game in there. (If I launch Merlin's Millions for example, which is a non-Netent game in Casino Red, I have a zero balance.)

Also, there's nothing showing in my bet history on the My Account page for today, it finishes at last nights Ruby Slippers play.

EDIT - On the plus side I've been told I only won £1.92 off the free spins which gives a WR of just £48, I hit the £30 playing down that £1.92 (and then of course the hit on Evolution) so I only have £10.25 left to wager :D

There's your answer. Your bonus can only be used on slots in casino red to meet the WR, and some with large jackpots or supplemented jackpots are excluded. Just play the lowest-variance casino red slot your bonus balance appears on, and grind out the 1K (at worst) WR or if you're lucky £750 if I was wrong about the extra £10 you won from subsequent post-freespin play on Aliens. In a way it's good that the balance only appears in slots you can play; all danger of messing up and breaking a WR/bonus term are removed.:D

In fact you've been lucky as you are now on an EV+++++++++ WR for a cashout :D:D:D
 
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