New MG slot Playboy

[b3b44]

even though i said i dislike it i am still playing to fully unlock it (can't not finish what i started ya know). Maybe it's ok after all...

last spin, 1.20 in wins (whoop de do) before this spin...


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nice hit ! Been running dry myself lately

 

[naththo]

At least its not only online casino that can run high and dry with lack of winning. Land based does the same too. It is all random nature. Once big win hit, then it gonna stay dry for a long time for high variance slot with smaller win. Low variance and medium variance will have bit better chance though.

 

[catapultaudio]

I was playing in the 1000 EUR slots tournament at 777 dragon on Thursday this week and placed 4th just from my free entry winning 80 EUR (70GBP), which I thought was pretty amazing luck ... well, maybe it was, but playboy went on to make things much better! Just one hit after another, after another ... cashing out over 500 GBP just from that free tournament entry, amazing ...

I definitely think Playboy is the king of the 243 way slots, no question

All images @ minimum bet £0.30

 

[aceking123]

I was playing in the 1000 EUR slots tournament at 777 dragon on Thursday this week and placed 4th just from my free entry winning 80 EUR (70GBP), which I thought was pretty amazing luck ... well, maybe it was, but playboy went on to make things much better! Just one hit after another, after another ... cashing out over 500 GBP just from that free tournament entry, amazing ...

I definitely think Playboy is the king of the 243 way slots, no question

All images @ minimum bet £0.30

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it does seem a good machine you did very well , but try it out at higher stakes your find it alot different )

 

[bigwinpictures]

Amazing win on Playboy slot during Sofia feature!

We decide to try this slot with big bet for a while because we practiced a little bit for our next weekend BigWin LIVE Playboy high roller live stream. Not bad training!

 

[Balthazar]

Sick

 

[Hydr0]

We decide to try this slot with big bet for a while because we practiced a little bit for our next weekend BigWin LIVE Playboy high roller live stream. Not bad training!



It's a very nice hit, but I'm not clicking on your vid as it's pretty obvious you're posting at casinomeister in an effort to gain traffic to your youtube channel and website. Basically an advertisement for bigwinpictures.com.

Not sure how the forum generally views gaining traffic tactics, perhaps it's acceptable. It's questionable form IMO.

Each to their own I guess, but I personally believe in sharing pics and videos for the visual entertainment of meister forum members only, and not for potential self gain.

 

[aceking123]

We decide to try this slot with big bet for a while because we practiced a little bit for our next weekend BigWin LIVE Playboy high roller live stream. Not bad training!



all i have to say is show me that screeny in real money

 

[Balthazar]

all i have to say is show me that screeny in real money

It's real money. Top left corner "you are playing for real". Like all their videos.

It's funny that half the comments on his Youtube videos are people claiming that he's not playing for real money, but I wasn't expecting to see that here.

Bigwinpictures, I, for one, don't care if you make advertising money with your videos. If you can make a buck or two then good for you. As long as it's not against the rules you should keep posting them.

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

This slot just makes me sick I really would love to have a hit like that. Started today as was able to squeeze in a tiny £10 deposit which gave me $14 at 32RED.
I did really well won big on Hellboy and just about made it over $300.... Cashout was screaming in my head but also those lovely ladies from Playboy was giving me ding dong....

636 spins later yes you heard right betting 0,60 and 0,90 all gone WITHOUT getting a feature. I have heard couple saying then went many many spins without getting feature but 636 spins in one session without feature a lowish bet is for me sick only got myself to blame I know. But feel i needed to let some of my anger out on this slot in here

One of the reason are those nice screenshots we see with all the wilds everywhere and hoping we can do the same. Just want to warn others like myself chasing an almost impossible dream. Chance of getting a hit like that is almost impossible. And you can end up getting badly hurt on this slot like i was today.

Own fault end of the day and I am still hitting myself you can be sure of that But not getting just a lousy paying feature has done my head in should I just stay away from it now or am I in for a BIG payday soon? Not sure how it works is it really just random next time i play? do i start from scratch in new session or do i start from spin 637? What i noticed is on these newer slots is it remembers last spin and that is what loads when you fire it up....

 

[Balthazar]

This slot just makes me sick I really would love to have a hit like that. Started today as was able to squeeze in a tiny £10 deposit which gave me $14 at 32RED.
I did really well won big on Hellboy and just about made it over $300.... Cashout was screaming in my head but also those lovely ladies from Playboy was giving me ding dong....

636 spins later yes you heard right betting 0,60 and 0,90 all gone WITHOUT getting a feature. I have heard couple saying then went many many spins without getting feature but 636 spins in one session without feature a lowish bet is for me sick only got myself to blame I know. But feel i needed to let some of my anger out on this slot in here

One of the reason are those nice screenshots we see with all the wilds everywhere and hoping we can do the same. Just want to warn others like myself chasing an almost impossible dream. Chance of getting a hit like that is almost impossible. And you can end up getting badly hurt on this slot like i was today.

Own fault end of the day and I am still hitting myself you can be sure of that But not getting just a lousy paying feature has done my head in should I just stay away from it now or am I in for a BIG payday soon? Not sure how it works is it really just random next time i play? do i start from scratch in new session or do i start from spin 637? What i noticed is on these newer slots is it remembers last spin and that is what loads when you fire it up....

This slot is very high variance and people need to keep their bets low. I played $0.60/spin earlier today with a $200 bankroll and I was nervous. It went nearly 300 spins with no feature, then I got a 4 or 5 within the next ~500 spins. Ended up with $300 and left.

Betting low and choosing the Running Wilds feature is the way to go IMO. This is similar to DoA as you don't need to bet high because if you hit something good, you'll get good money even on a low bet.

 

[Nifty29]

It's a very nice hit, but I'm not clicking on your vid as it's pretty obvious you're posting at casinomeister in an effort to gain traffic to your youtube channel and website. Basically an advertisement for bigwinpictures.com.

Not sure how the forum generally views gaining traffic tactics, perhaps it's acceptable. It's questionable form IMO.

Each to their own I guess, but I personally believe in sharing pics and videos for the visual entertainment of meister forum members only, and not for potential self gain.

It's real money. Top left corner "you are playing for real". Like all their videos.

It's funny that half the comments on his Youtube videos are people claiming that he's not playing for real money, but I wasn't expecting to see that here.

Bigwinpictures, I, for one, don't care if you make advertising money with your videos. If you can make a buck or two then good for you. As long as it's not against the rules you should keep posting them.

It doesn't bother me if he makes money either....as long as it is not off the back of Bryan's site.

IMO, if it was REALLY just about the big win to show everyone, the OP would have posted a SCREENSHOT of the win like everyone else....NOT a video that promotes their own site.

Anyway, Bryan/Max will decide what is OK and what is not. IMO screenies are great....videos spruiking another casino portal are cloaked advertising and are actually against the rules (for good reason)

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

It doesn't bother me if he makes money either....as long as it is not off the back of Bryan's site.

IMO, if it was REALLY just about the big win to show everyone, the OP would have posted a SCREENSHOT of the win like everyone else....NOT a video that promotes their own site.

Anyway, Bryan/Max will decide what is OK and what is not. IMO screenies are great....videos spruiking another casino portal are cloaked advertising and are actually against the rules (for good reason)

Agree on this. If OP had posted their own private video then it would be okay. But posting videos like this can only have one goal to monetize their own site. I don't really want to get into a fight with OP on this as I am sure he is a great guy it. But what is underlined here is a fact. But if its fine posting videos like that then please have me apologize.... Oh by the way did you notice no smileys in this post nifty despite I was really close clicking them. But been trying to avoid them. Just seen my post earlier made me urghhhh.

 

[refre]

I do enjoy watching their (bigwinpictures') videos on YouTube.
It seems regular players contribute to their catalogue of slot wins (kinda like the screenshots thread...).

They recently started a site showing live slot play once or twice a week. Videos end up on above YouTube channel.
I'm a bit confused over this - it's not entirely clear to me if this is *actual money* or free credits on behalf of Betsafe.
It seems they are their sole advertiser and also where play is taking place.

Maybe bigwinpictures can shed some light on this.

If that's a real win - WTG


Freddy

 

[Hydr0]

It doesn't bother me if he makes money either....as long as it is not off the back of Bryan's site.

IMO, if it was REALLY just about the big win to show everyone, the OP would have posted a SCREENSHOT of the win like everyone else....NOT a video that promotes their own site.

Anyway, Bryan/Max will decide what is OK and what is not. IMO screenies are great....videos spruiking another casino portal are cloaked advertising and are actually against the rules (for good reason)

I'm glad I'm not the only one who has an issue with the alleged intent behind the vid post.

I wasn't sure at first whether I should voice my opinion on this, as I didn't want to come across as being bitter, or difficult.

Naturally, I don't mind if the OP makes some $$$ from their vid, that's one of the benefits of social media, you can.

It's the OP's use of casinomeisters website to potentially generate part of their online income which I don't condone.

 

[bigwinpictures]

I do enjoy watching their (bigwinpictures') videos on YouTube.
It seems regular players contribute to their catalogue of slot wins (kinda like the screenshots thread...).

They recently started a site showing live slot play once or twice a week. Videos end up on above YouTube channel.
I'm a bit confused over this - it's not entirely clear to me if this is *actual money* or free credits on behalf of Betsafe.
It seems they are their sole advertiser and also where play is taking place.

Maybe bigwinpictures can shed some light on this.

If that's a real win - WTG


Freddy

I try to remove video, but i didn't find edit or delete post button anywhere.

Now I learned my lesson and i promise I never post any video or pictures to this forum.

This video was played with real money. We deposited 7000€ to Bet Safe for our broadcasts and I just took cash out 36.000€ and I'm so happy about that!

 

[Hydr0]

I try to remove video, but i didn't find edit or delete post button anywhere.

Now I learned my lesson and i promise I never post any video or pictures to this forum.

This video was played with real money. We deposited 7000€ to Bet Safe for our broadcasts and I just took cash out 36.000€ and I'm so happy about that!

Congrats on your win, very lucky....

RE select feedback, it should be viewed objectively. It's a principle issue.

If you would like to delete your video, click on settings/attachments/delete selected.

ps: you may require a moderators permission to delete attachment, due to expiry of allowed edit time?

 

[Rugger00]

FYI, Jackpotcity looks to be holding another promotion similar to the Immortal Romance one where you win bonus credits on hitting specific wins. Just started for the Month of August so lets see.

 

[Ad7777]

No playboy on Ladbrokes!

I notice Ladbrokes have't got Playboy , is there any Ladbrokes rep here to explain why this is? i wonder if they will be getting the new Dark Knight slot too which is coming out this month!?

 

[lotusch]

We decide to try this slot with big bet for a while because we practiced a little bit for our next weekend BigWin LIVE Playboy high roller live stream. Not bad training!



Amazing win,congratz buddy...
I am doing well in general on most 243 line slots but only Playboy lets me really down on most casino's I play...
I had the best hits on Wild Night feature with a few 3 wilds + 5 oak combo's but still behind (80% ish RTP I think overall) so hopefully I can get a winner like that too,don't mind hitting that on my avg bet of €2.40-€3.00 on this slot but running wilds have not been showing for me at all yet..

Again congratz,awesome video!

Mark.

 

[Hydr0]

Latest Session: $4882.50 win, x3255 bet

$10 deposit, $1.50 bet

 

[catapultaudio]

Damn, your a brave man betting 1.50 from a 10 deposit on 243 way slots... I take it you built your balance up a little first?? Surely you didn't deposit intending to just play 6 spins and see how it went?? If so then fair play, crazy but amazing all the same ..

And well done on your in either way, hope I will get one like that myself, planning some more time on it this weekend !

 

[Nate]

Brave Indeed

Very nice hit

I have been trying to hit something on a reasonable sized bet for a while on playboy. My biggest hits have come thus far on a 30c and 60c bets.

The majority of my spins are on $1.50 - $1.80. My RTP in the last 2 sessions is probably in the 70% region with over 5000 spins each try ....

She can make you or break you

Nate

 

[lotusch]

Brave Indeed

Very nice hit

I have been trying to hit something on a reasonable sized bet for a while on playboy. My biggest hits have come thus far on a 30c and 60c bets.

The majority of my spins are on $1.50 - $1.80. My RTP in the last 2 sessions is probably in the 70% region with over 5000 spins each try ....

She can make you or break you

Nate

I know how you feel bro....
I had a few nice wins on IR and TFROL over last few days but I lost it all on Playboy.
That machine is vile to me and is eating my deposits for breakfast...

1 decent 200x win on a €1.80 bet but that is it.
I have unlocked all features on 3 different casino's and keep swapping between 15x with rolling wilds and 25x with wild night feature.
I just hit nothing decent especially on rolling wild I cant win a dime and then seeing all those mega big wins here makes me wonder how much friggin money you need to put on Playboy to hit a monsterwin...

I still like the slot but my RTP on avg would also be 65-70 ish %,so I hope to hit something decent at least soon..

 

[Nate]

I know how you feel bro....
I had a few nice wins on IR and TFROL over last few days but I lost it all on Playboy.
That machine is vile to me and is eating my deposits for breakfast...

1 decent 200x win on a €1.80 bet but that is it.
I have unlocked all features on 3 different casino's and keep swapping between 15x with rolling wilds and 25x with wild night feature.
I just hit nothing decent especially on rolling wild I cant win a dime and then seeing all those mega big wins here makes me wonder how much friggin money you need to put on Playboy to hit a monsterwin...

I still like the slot but my RTP on avg would also be 65-70 ish %,so I hope to hit something decent at least soon..

Lol - I thought Immortal Romance was bad to me.... My First 1000x hit only came this month. I've had 1 on playboy already.

Yeah the Slot is a gobbler and you're either lucky or not...

Nate

 

[catapultaudio]

With regards the running wilds feature (Sofia), I know I posted here somewhere way back near the start saying that feature had been mega-brutal to me so far, not a single even moderately decent win so far (as in 10-20 stake MAX) then suddenly last weekend, at a different casino, it just started paying out big ... or if not I would still get a half decent win or two in there, very few total bullsh*t features anyway... Theres no doubt, as confirmed by kktmds stats a couple of pages back, the variance of that particular feature is just WILD ... the 25 spins wild night feature is somewhat more reliable in providing a decent 100-300 stake win within a few features (of course, it also throws out plenty of zero wild night triggers, and the features themselves might take a thousand spins to trigger enough to get that win ...)

One things for sure though, it's been kinder to me than IR and TFROL, and though I have had comparable sessions on TS2, I think I prefer the slightly crazier variance of playboy so far because the reel strip layouts just make it so much more exciting... I don't think I've had many 100x stake hits in TS2 on regular spins, but I've had a few on playboy because the wilds are in better positions just like IR ...

I do wish there was a wild magic feature tho ... but the running wilds is an okay replacement...

 

[polli123]

It's a very nice hit, but I'm not clicking on your vid as it's pretty obvious you're posting at casinomeister in an effort to gain traffic to your youtube channel and website. Basically an advertisement for bigwinpictures.com.

Can't understand you. Bigwinpicures is One of the best chanels @youtube and their videos and wins are fantastic!
Of course, that's their business. But you hydr0 Post here at Casinomeister, which is a Full commercial website too (jep, at least it is only the money).

So long, hope you'll post more over here, bigwinpictures.

 

[Hydr0]

Forum rule 1.3 reminder

Can't understand you. Bigwinpicures is One of the best chanels @youtube and their videos and wins are fantastic!
Of course, that's their business. But you hydr0 Post here at Casinomeister, which is a Full commercial website too (jep, at least it is only the money).

So long, hope you'll post more over here, bigwinpictures.

The difference is that I'm not posting here to promote or advertise my own online business.

Whilst I have my own views on this, it doesn't really matter at the end of the day. Cloaked advertising is in violation of rule 1.3, in the casinomeister forum rules.

"1.3 - No "Spamming". Casino ads are no longer permitted anywhere in our forum - sorry. You may post "want ads" or sell your domains or websites in the "Strictly Commercial" section, but promos and spam (or cloaked ads) will be removed. Also, please do not mass-PM or mass-email multiple members of this site the same message. When in doubt, ask! ATTN: Spammers will be dragged out into the street and shot. Shills be warned. Spammers and shills who violate this rule will have their email addresses and IPs posted in public view. You've been warned."

I presume that based on the number of likes for bigwinpictures vid, in addition to some of the reply posts condoning and supporting bigwinpictures post, that a select few of the members here, and surprisingly some long standing members, are possibly not up to speed on all of the current forum rules.

I was reluctant to post my initial view of the OP's alleged underlying agenda, as I didn't want to see this thread get off it's original point, "New MG slot Playboy" but I think it's important enough to outline what is permitted and what isn't.

I don't have anything against bigwinpictures, I wish them well. They post some great vids on youtube and their website, but that's not the point here, the breach of forum rules is. They're not my rules, their casinomeisters. As members here, we should honour the forum rules as best we can. Upon registering a member account here, it's indeed presumed by the moderator(s) that we will.

I understand that it would quite easy to lose sight of select forum rules, when your too busy enjoying video content, even if the video points towards cloaked advertising. Perhaps for some forum members, highlighting or enforcing specific rules is deemed as unnecessary even.

In any case, the rules are worth noting, and abiding by.

Cheers

 

[Hydr0]

Damn, your a brave man betting 1.50 from a 10 deposit on 243 way slots... I take it you built your balance up a little first?? Surely you didn't deposit intending to just play 6 spins and see how it went?? If so then fair play, crazy but amazing all the same ..

And well done on your in either way, hope I will get one like that myself, planning some more time on it this weekend !




Thanks m8, yep, spot on. [email protected], triggered feature on 3rd hit. Paid ~ $50. Upped bet to $1.5 right away and scored shortly afterwards. Ass beats class...

 

[Balthazar]

In any case, the rules are worth noting, and abiding by.

You sound like the kind of person who calls the police on his neighbors because you think you've seen them smoking pot.

FTR, Bigwinpictures has been posting here for a long time (for as long as I've been here, at the very least) in various parts of the forum and no one (before you, that is) cried about it. A lot of people enjoyed the videos and I don't remember seeing a mod issuing a warning to him.

If his videos bother you that much, you shouldn't watch them.

 

[Nifty29]

Can't understand you. Bigwinpicures is One of the best chanels @youtube and their videos and wins are fantastic!
Of course, that's their business. But you hydr0 Post here at Casinomeister, which is a Full commercial website too (jep, at least it is only the money).

So long, hope you'll post more over here, bigwinpictures.

I see hydr0 posting screenies...not videos..and certainly not with any links or anything of the kind.

I also see that you link to your own websites in your signature...where is hydr0's links?. So, I think it's the pot calling the kettle black here.

BWP knows what he's doing. He ain't stoopid. He could achieve exactly the same effect by posting screenies like everyone else does...there is only one reason to link to videos etc. Sorry, but some of us weren't born yesterday.

Balthazar...to be fair, I am sure you have referred to the rules in the past, and I am sure you have reported posts for breaching those rules. Rules are rules...we don't get to pick the ones we don't like and ignore them.

In any case, hydr0 or anyone else is allowed to voice their objection. He (and I to an extent) see it is a form of cloaked advertising...as I said, a screenie would do the same job surely? It seems OK for everyone else. It's nothing against BWP....I don't even know the guy, and hydrO probably doesn't either. It is no basis to label the guy as some kind of Buzz Killington or make personal judgements on the guy.

Bottom line....if the mods don't see it as cloaked advertising or misuse of the forum, then fine. I'll accept that. Doesn't mean others can't have an opinion about it in the meantime. I reported it, so we shall see...not because I "saw someone smoking pot" etc, but because the mods cannot read every single post in every single thread.

BTW...if pot was illegal, and it was impacting on me and my family (i.e. attracting n'er-do-wells to my neighbourhood or disrupting the place, then you bet your arse I would call the cops. It's called being a good citizen.

 

[Hydr0]

You sound like the kind of person who calls the police on his neighbors because you think you've seen them smoking pot.

FTR, Bigwinpictures has been posting here for a long time (for as long as I've been here, at the very least) in various parts of the forum and no one (before you, that is) cried about it. A lot of people enjoyed the videos and I don't remember seeing a mod issuing a warning to him.

If his videos bother you that much, you shouldn't watch them.

Your not being objective m8. No need to get personal....

I didn't write the forum rules. If the moderators are ok with it, fine. The fact remains that bigwinpictures recent vid post is a form of cloaked advertising, at least I see it as such, which is a breach of the 1.3 rule.

I personally agree with the rule, but that's irrelevant. When you accept the terms of a particular casino, you should be willing to accept the outcome, good or bad. Why should a forum be any different?

 

[lotusch]

Lol - I thought Immortal Romance was bad to me.... My First 1000x hit only came this month. I've had 1 on playboy already.

Yeah the Slot is a gobbler and you're either lucky or not...

Nate

Hope I can post a good winner screenie some day!
All I am left with now is full unlocked features and 4 half naked ladies looking at me saying they want me!
All they want from me thusfar is my bankroll.

I nearly had 3k in my gambling bankroll last week due to some good hits and wins all on MG slots by the way,bought a new laptop for my wife and the rest nearly all went to the Playboy mansion!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I think it comes down to whether or not bigwin has any commercial interest in his channel.

When my YouTube channel was active I had a thread that I started myself which I posted regular updates to, and I also embedded video links into threads where the content of the video was relevant. (Including the winners screenshots thread, where I'd post a screeny and also embed a video link.)

Now the thing with my channel was there was NO MONETISATION WHATSOEVER involved, indeed I'd explicitly ticked the box in my options so that no advertisements were shown with my videos, I never received one single penny in revenues from any source, and I had no other 'commercial interest' that I was trying to promote on the sly.

In short, it was a personal channel, the contents of which I was sharing for others to watch if they wanted to do so, and I always linked videos that I felt were relevant. I never received any warnings or infractions or anything else - so I assume that Bryan and the team accepted that I had no hidden agenda.

If bigwin passes the same sort of 'test' as it were then I really don't see the problem, but if he's trying to use CM for his commercial interests in any way, then yes, we can call foul.

 

[Hydr0]

Hope I can post a good winner screenie some day!
All I am left with now is full unlocked features and 4 half naked ladies looking at me saying they want me!
All they want from me thusfar is my bankroll.

I nearly had 3k in my gambling bankroll last week due to some good hits and wins all on MG slots by the way,bought a new laptop for my wife and the rest nearly all went to the Playboy mansion!

GL m8, little doubt we'll be seeing a nice screenie from you soon

If not, I'll call the police on MG

 

[lotusch]

To show you what I mean,I always miss 1 reel for a really nice big win:

Just got this as I am trying again LOL:
And then it comes up as a big win tsssssssssssssssssssk...

Missing Sofia and Ashley on reel 5,had this combo already so many times missing them 2 ladies on 5th reel...
I will get them!!!!

 

[Hydr0]

To show you what I mean,I always miss 1 reel for a really nice big win:

Just got this as I am trying again LOL:
And then it comes up as a big win tsssssssssssssssssssk...

Missing Sofia and Ashley on reel 5,had this combo already so many times missing them 2 ladies on 5th reel...
I will get them!!!!

This may help ease the frustration of the reel 5 miss a little.

( 5 Sophia's + 5 Ashley's ) * 9 ways = 8.5 * 9 ways = €76.5.

On €1.2 stake ( presumed from your screenie win ) the return = 76.5 * 4 = €306 ( x255 )

Not a bad win, but not huge either.

What you really want on reel 5 is another wild. This would make the win €306 * 3 = €918 ( x765 )

Big wins are relative, and don't necessarily mean the same thing to all of us. I suspect that you think a Sophia and an Ashley on reel 5 equates to something bigger than a x255 win, hence my post.

Cheers & once again GL!

 

[lotusch]

Thanks for clearing that Hydr0 ... It was a €1.20 spin indeed ....

 

[Balthazar]

Well after 50,000 spins or so, I can safely say that this is my favorite release from MGS since IR, and it's possibly even better than IR. Not too much of the RTP is wasted in the base game (nor in Wild Desire), so big wins in the bonus games are not that hard to get.

This slot is perfect for a low roller like me who likes high variance slots. Minimum bet + quick spins + "play until stop" and all I've to do is wait for the bonus rounds I've hit quite a few nice bonus rounds in the 300x-700x range (+ the 3000x monster). It's always fun to win $100+ on a $0.30 bet.

Thumbs up MGS, you did it right this time.

 

[lotusch]

Well after 50,000 spins or so, I can safely say that this is my favorite release from MGS since IR, and it's possibly even better than IR. Not too much of the RTP is wasted in the base game (nor in Wild Desire), so big wins in the bonus games are not that hard to get.

This slot is perfect for a low roller like me who likes high variance slots. Minimum bet + quick spins + "play until stop" and all I've to do is wait for the bonus rounds I've hit quite a few nice bonus rounds in the 300x-700x range (+ the 3000x monster). It's always fun to win $100+ on a $0.30 bet.

Thumbs up MGS, you did it right this time.

Maybe I should lower my stakes then lol..
I play these 243 liners €0.90 - €3.00 which is still not high stakes but enough to destroy a bankroll if slot is cold..

 

[Balthazar]

Maybe I should lower my stakes then lol..
I play these 243 liners €0.90 - €3.00 which is still not high stakes but enough to destroy a bankroll if slot is cold..

You need at the very least a €1,000 bankroll to play this slot at €3.00/spin IMO and even then it's quite dangerous. Keep in mind that the base game RTP is around 60% and you can go 500+ spins without a feature and this feature might pay as little as 2x stake. So you need a pretty deep bankroll to be anywhere near comfortable.

If my bankroll is less than $250 I play at $0.30/spin, that should give you an idea.

 

[binary128]

I apologize for breaking into this thread so late in its development. I say that because:

1.) I have no naked babe screen shots.

2.) I'm responding to two posts made by kktmd way back on July 24 and July 25. (Who would have expected to find statistical data analysis in a thread about a Playboy slot?)

The First Post contained chart data, one column of which was labeled "Variance".

The Second Post contained the explanation that the chart data was from a MySQL database.

It also responded to Balthazar's question:

The last column is called 'Variance', how should we interpret this number?

with the answer:

I use MySql's Variance function (which gives me the square of standard deviation).

@kktmd:

I Started a Thread awhile ago to discuss, among other things, slot variance as a number rather than a word (high, medium, low).

The thread begins to pick up steam concerning this specific topic on page 6. Jufo's contributions to this thread were inspirationally extraordinary. (Check out The Following Post.) It's a bit of a long thread, and there is a lot of pretty meaty stuff in there. But I can tell you that the whole thing was a tremendous learning experience for me.

The values for some of the various slot performance variables that we published (follow the link on the thread's first post) came from an analysis of the PAR sheets for each of the slots. The variance and standard deviation values came from a database analysis, using samples of 20 million rounds per slot.

The equation for calculating the variance, which is at the bottom of the thread's first post, came from Mike Shackleford. I'll quote it here for reference:

(S2/WRB^2/WRC) - (S1/WRB/WRC)^2

WRC = Wagered round count. Example: For a Free Spin win slot, this is the number of non-free spin rounds.

WRB = Wagered round bet amount. For a line bet of $1 on all lines of a 20 line slot, this value would be 20.

S1 = Sum(Paid Amount). Example: A $20 round "Pays" $6. Technically, this is a $14 loss, but for this calculation it is summed as a $6 win.

S2 = Sum(Paid Amount Squared). The $6 amount above would be summed here as 36. This gets tricky with a Free Spins slot. For a series of Free Spins, the paid amounts are first summed, then squared, and this value is what is then added to the S2 total. That is, the Free Spin amounts are not squared separately, and each value added to the S2 total. They are first added together, this sum is then squared, and the result is added to the S2 total.

Example data for one of our single-line slots:

WRC = 20000000
WRB = 3
S1 = 58547877
S2 = 4411176273

If you put these numbers into Excel, and use the formula above, then you should see:

Variance = 23.55

Standard Deviation (= Square Root of Variance) = 4.85

One of the major points of discussion in this older thread was - OK, we have a number. It's an absolute number for this slot, like TRTP. But what, if anything, does it mean?

(As to its being an "absolute number" for a slot - Our original sample run for the analysis was 20 million rounds, yielding a variance of 23.18. We have since run another 20 million round sample, which yielded a variance of 23.55.)

As I mentioned above, the really tricky bit in all of this is dealing with the Free Spin data for the S2 calculation.

Example: Standard spin, 20 lines, $1 per line, spin returns $6 and 10 free spins.

- Free Spin 1 returns 0
- Free Spin 2 returns 30
- Free Spin 3 returns 10
- Free Spin 4 returns 0
- Free Spin 5 returns 250
- Free Spin 6 returns 0
- Free Spin 7 returns 0
- Free Spin 8 returns 60
- Free Spin 9 returns 10
- Free Spin 10 returns 0

Sum of return amounts (including the original spin that won the free spins) = 366. The square of this is 133956. This 133956 value is what gets added to the S2 value. (In this example, WRB = 20.)

You can do this in SQL. You'll need a scrollable cursor, an IF statement (to catch the free spin win round) and a WHILE statement (to iterate through the subsequent free spin rounds).

Or you can pull the data using a SELECT statement, load it into a multi-dimensional array (a rather huge array) and do your analysis using the array's data.

I can tell you that I, and I would presume to say several other CM members, would be extremely interested in seeing your results.

Chris

 

[Nifty29]

I apologize for breaking into this thread so late in its developmekktmdI say that because:

1.) I have no naked babe screen shots.

2.) I'm responding to two posts made by kktmd way back on July 24 and July 25. (Who would have expected to find statistical data analysis in a thread about a Playboy slot?)

The First Post contained chart data, one column of which was labeled "Variance".

The Second Post contained the explanation that the chart data was from a MySQL database.

It also responded to Balthazar's question: with the answer:

@kktmd:

I Started a Thread awhile ago to discuss, among other things, slot variance as a number rather than a word (high, medium, low).

The thread begins to pick up steam concerning this specific topic on page 6. Jufo's contributions to this thread were inspirationally extraordinary. (Check out The Following Post.) It's a bit of a long thread, and there is a lot of pretty meaty stuff in there. But I can tell you that the whole thing was a tremendous learning experience for me.

The values for some of the various slot performance variables that we published (follow the link on the thread's first post) came from an analysis of the PAR sheets for each of the slots. The variance and standard deviation values came from a database analysis, using samples of 20 million rounds per slot.

The equation for calculating the variance, which is at the bottom of the thread's first post, came from Mike Shackleford. I'll quote it here for reference:



Example data for one of our single-line slots:

WRC = 20000000
WRB = 3
S1 = 58547877
S2 = 4411176273

If you put these numbers into Excel, and use the formula above, then you should see:

Variance = 23.55

Standard Deviation (= Square Root of Variance) = 4.85

One of the major points of discussion in this older thread was - OK, we have a number. It's an absolute number for this slot, like TRTP. But what, if anything, does it mean?

(As to its being an "absolute number" for a slot - Our original sample run for the analysis was 20 million rounds, yielding a variance of 23.18. We have since run another 20 million round sample, which yielded a variance of 23.55.)

As I mentioned above, the really tricky bit in all of this is dealing with the Free Spin data for the S2 calculation.

Example: Standard spin, 20 lines, $1 per line, spin returns $6 and 10 free spins.

- Free Spin 1 returns 0
- Free Spin 2 returns 30
- Free Spin 3 returns 10
- Free Spin 4 returns 0
- Free Spin 5 returns 250
- Free Spin 6 returns 0
- Free Spin 7 returns 0
- Free Spin 8 returns 60
- Free Spin 9 returns 10
- Free Spin 10 returns 0

Sum of return amounts (including the original spin that won the free spins) = 366. The square of this is 133956. This 133956 value is what gets added to the S2 value. (In this example, WRB = 20.)

You can do this in SQL. You'll need a scrollable cursor, an IF statement (to catch the free spin win round) and a WHILE statement (to iterate through the subsequent free spin rounds).

Or you can pull the data using a SELECT statement, load it into a multi-dimensional array (a rather huge array) and do your analysis using the array's data.

I can tell you that I, and I would presume to say several other CM members, would be extremely interested in seeing your results.

Chris

Interesting Chris.

So what does all this mean to low-value players like CM members?

Has kktmd got it wrong?

I'm just wondering what impact this is going to have on us?

 

[zanzibar]

It's real money. Top left corner "you are playing for real". Like all their videos.

It's funny that half the comments on his Youtube videos are people claiming that he's not playing for real money, but I wasn't expecting to see that here.

Bigwinpictures, I, for one, don't care if you make advertising money with your videos. If you can make a buck or two then good for you. As long as it's not against the rules you should keep posting them.

It is a video of a game being played on a html page. It is trivial to either construct your own HTML page and embed the free play game yourself, or alter the real page using a tool like Firebug or the web inspectors available in most browsers these days. Any text or graphic on the page could have been altered and therefore there is no way to tell from looking at the posted video whether it is being played for real or play money. Anyone stating either way is guessing.

Anyway in the interests of finding out more about the impressive €38,000+ win I went to Betsafe's winners page to read all about it. Sadly there is nothing there about it but I was able to read about someone winning less than that on the Dark Knight. Maybe they haven't updated the page yet.

 

[catapultaudio]

Problem is its actually a video of a game being played in a flash app embedded in a HTML page, whose text strings are not editable using firebug or similar. The slot in question shows practice credits in the available coins box in free play, so it is at worst, a very well edited fake.. or much more likely, I would say, its real...?

 

[catapultaudio]

Binary128, I have the skills to create the data you describe if kktmd is not up for it, but I wondered, are you hoping to get this variance number for playboy specifically for some reason or is it part of a wider effort to get this same data for as many slots as possible?

Also with regards the free spins data, my understanding is kktmd has his data structured Such that the value of the free spin row is already equivalent to the total of the trigger spin and the bonus round. Assuming I am right, should it not be possible to simply square the existing value to use in the calculation as opposed to any extra code or subselect on the individual free spins? (I am unaware if they were recorded anyway too actually)

I don't think you mentioned which slot(s) have already been analysed in this one you have done the 40 mil spins on, but would love to know?

Ps sorry if I missed anything or misunderstood am smartphone only for a few days and forums are not exactly ideal

 

[andym]

So did anyone ever see any huge win on this slot with a betsize of 3 euro or higher? (>1000Xbet)

I tried it really 100000 times with 3eur or higher but never - really never saw any huge win in the main games or in the freegames (have already "the naked ladys" so i tried the last feature (wild nights) most of the time).

So im really wondering if the playbot slot is only made for small betsizes.

 

[Nifty29]

So did anyone ever see any huge win on this slot with a betsize of 3 euro or higher? (>1000Xbet)

I tried it really 100000 times with 3eur or higher but never - really never saw any huge win in the main games or in the freegames (have already "the naked ladys" so i tried the last feature (wild nights) most of the time).

So im really wondering if the playbot slot is only made for small betsizes.

The size of your bet has absolutely no effect on the payout percentage of the slot.

It might mean one can afford less spins, depending on one's bankroll, I guess.

The last feature is extremely high variance, and pays out bugger all 99% of the time.

I would be interested to see your RTP after 100k spins (although its not enough to make accurate conclusions it is still a reasonable sample).

 

[Balthazar]

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[andym]

The size of your bet has absolutely no effect on the payout percentage of the slot.

It might mean one can afford less spins, depending on one's bankroll, I guess.

The last feature is extremely high variance, and pays out bugger all 99% of the time.

I would be interested to see your RTP after 100k spins (although its not enough to make accurate conclusions it is still a reasonable sample).

but isnt it very strange that you see here in this forum only screenshots of high playboy wins with a betsize of 0.X and 1.X.

I didnt saw any screenshot with 3.X or higher.