New MG slot Playboy

[Hydr0]

It might be more useful to know your CPU speed rather than ram size, unless your running several casinos at once - I do that sometimes when playing tournaments and even 8gb runs out quick with 10 or more MGS casinos open, so they do use a fair chunk of ram but not enough for the 4gb to be your bottleneck

My 2 machines are from different eras altogether in terms of speed (AMD X2 6000+ vs intel core i5 2500k) and the AMD despite being a very powerful machine in its day does struggle a bit with this software, i can only think the programming must be sloppy ...

Intel Pentium Processor TT4400 ( 2.2GHz, 800MHz FSB )

 

[Nifty29]

i took a look at the reel strips and the best combination in 5x free spins would be:

WILD - COUPLE - WILD - ASHLEY - SOFIA
ACE - 10 - KIMI - WILD - BIKE
JILLIAN - WILD - J - KIMI - WILD

I'm assuming it would always work out to have the highest paying symbols in view, not for example having an extra ace which would be possible by moving reel 4 down 1 ...

Can anybody work out what you would be paid out for that ? I'm really fascinated to know now but I do see now I've thought about it that you won't complete anywhere near as many lines as I thought

Suppose I'll have to keep trying those running wilds, even though they broke my heart yet again tonight..!

Leave it with me ;-)

I get $377.5 max win on 0.30 stake.

5OAK break down:

$10 - wilds
$10 - Jillian's
$9 - Ashley's
$21 - Kimi's (3 ways)
$8 - Sofia's
$6 - couple
$4 - 5 bike
$3 - Aces
$2.5 - Jacks
$2 - Tens

Total: $ 75.5

Times 5 ( max win ) = $377.5

Assuming both of our calculations are correct, that's a $2052.5 difference between the max win on feature 1 and features 2 & 4 ($2430 - $377.5)

Huge difference!

PS: reel 4 down one position ( extra Ace ) would reduce the max Kimi feature win by $55, making it $322.5.

Ah yes....but the TRTP is the same. Its the variance that's the key.

TRTP is WHAT the game pays out.....Variance is HOW it pays it out (put simply). In other words, whilst feature 4 has a bigger max pay, it will usually pay out bugger all more often than feature 1 or 3. It really is just like playing Dr WTF vs playing Isis etc.

I think the advice about choosing the feature based on remaining bankroll is fairly sound I.e. if you're low and want to have a better chance to stay in the game choose rolling reels...if you couldn't give a toss then go for broke on wild nights.

Thanks for info hydro ...oh and thanks for stealing the five wilds. Sod.

P.s. looks like the playboy girls have all had the wax out. I've seen NAIRy a hair betwixt them.

 

[Hydr0]

Ah yes....but the TRTP is the same. Its the variance that's the key.

TRTP is WHAT the game pays out.....Variance is HOW it pays it out (put simply). In other words, whilst feature 4 has a bigger max pay, it will usually pay out bugger all more often than feature 1 or 3. It really is just like playing Dr WTF vs playing Isis etc.

I think the advice about choosing the feature based on remaining bankroll is fairly sound I.e. if you're low and want to have a better chance to stay in the game choose rolling reels...if you couldn't give a toss then go for broke on wild nights.

Thanks for info hydro ...oh and thanks for stealing the five wilds. Sod.

P.s. looks like the playboy girls have all had the wax out. I've seen NAIRy a hair betwixt them.




Cheers Nifty,

RE play strategies given bankroll size and variance, yep agreed. On average a good way to go.

RE the info on Kimi feature max win off a single spin, a pleasure...

RE stealing the 5 wilds, I attempted to donate a decent chunk of change to the mansion that night, but the girls wouldn't have it as the night went on. They decided it was more fun throwing lots of bunny rabbits at me instead - 15 bunnies to be exact. I wasn't about to argue with any of them, especially the red head!

Apparently I've been awarded a platinum pass to the mansion, which comes free with another bunny bashing, but there's a catch, it's only valid from July 31st 2015. Something about the girls only putting out every blue moon. Ah well, meanwhile, I guess I can always look at my screenie

 

[Ad7777]

This slot is on microgaming , but it's not on Ladbrokes!? i see its on 32red and other microgaming sites , but not Ladbrokes , even though they are microgaming too! i don't understand , maybe it's late arriving on Ladbrokes or something? any idea's?

 

[Hydr0]

This slot is on microgaming , but it's not on Ladbrokes!? i see its on 32red and other microgaming sites , but not Ladbrokes , even though they are microgaming too! i don't understand , maybe it's late arriving on Ladbrokes or something? any idea's?

Hey m8,

Had a quick look around the net, and on their website, but couldn't find any useful info.

Have you tried contacting their CS department? They should be able to help you out on that one.

 

[Rugger00]

Finnally hit a decent bonus pay on this one. 30 cent bet under the 10 spins at 5 times won me over $48 dollars. Then 30 spins later I finnaly unlocked the next bonus level and only won 80 cents on the rolling wild reels. The bonus rounds are a big gamble in variance but it is intereting that the sound is different when you hear the rolling wild reels go past by. Still want to unlock it all so likely will continue playing it.

 

[loren]

big thanks

to HydrO for all the effort that's been put into this thread...especially the math.
It's a very good game,especially when Dame Fortune is blowing kisses your way.

 

[sparkz]

Worst slot I have ever played and really boring.

911 spins

7 bonus rounds hit

60p: £22.30
60p: £27.60
90p: £18.70
£1.20: £3.60
£3.00: £0.00 (yes no wins from free spins, apart from scatter win to start spins)
£3.00: £3.20
£1.80: £10.20

0 big wins. Highest win from normal play was just over £8

The 60p and 90p bonus rounds put me bang on (+/- a few pence) my starting balance.....

Thankfully I was playing in fun mode... ending balance was £500 down

 

[GamblingFan78]

This slot seems interesting but it's actually rather dull. The bonus games are not very rewarding, and the sexy ladies on the reels are the only exciting feature.

 

[Andy Walker]

This slot seems interesting but it's actually rather dull. The bonus games are not very rewarding, and the sexy ladies on the reels are the only exciting feature.

In all fairness the representation of the female form in the slot is so politically correct it does seem sexy in some overt kind of way.

If I was a lady I would demand a character symbol change available in the game options with men in smoking jackets or colourful cardigans.

 

[xxshepxx]

played over 3000 spins now without a bonus round.

I've never hit the bonus round on it yet.

 

[Keiju]

played over 3000 spins now without a bonus round.

I've never hit the bonus round on it yet.

Oh that's bad thought I had it rough (just over 1000 spins without bonus round).
I have had the bonus round playing with play money, but with real money not once. I have only played it twice on two different casinos and it sucked my bankroll quite fast

 

[catapultaudio]

Can't believe your having such poor bonus round frequency on this one, unlucky .. !

Found a £10 bonus in my 32 red account tonight so after a few rounds of blackjack and video poker started on the slots - thought I'd try playboy again after it was pretty good to me last weekend. First feature (rolling reels) paid £23, next went for wild night and got 6 rounds including 3 back to back AND my first ever 3 reels wild! It was 3, 4 & 5 so I expected the worst but hit the motorbikes on 1+2 for about £54 on that spin and £75 in the feature altogether... Went for the running wilds next and that was horrible as per usual, £2, and then wild night again for about £5 .. All off min 0.30 spins btw

Ive had a 5x feature now for £20 too - now at 6 features in 500 spins... Seems like the slots are hot(ish) for me tonight !!

Still, sitting at £100 balance half way through the wagering on the free £10 so I'm not complaining ! It's really made me hot for some more 3/4 reels wild features now tho !!

 

[catapultaudio]

Lost count of the feature count now but just had a nice 220x stake on the wild night feature... Withdrawn £210 and £35 left in account nearly all from playboy and all from a £10 free chip ... I love this slot !

 

[homerbert]

Lost count of the feature count now but just had a nice 220x stake on the wild night feature... Withdrawn £210 and £35 left in account nearly all from playboy and all from a £10 free chip ... I love this slot !

congrats on your win!
i found 1000 loyalty points, redeem, but IR was not so kind for me as playboy for you!

 

[catapultaudio]

Just hit my 2nd 3 reels wild of the night, this is crazy !! Total win was £48 ... managed a screenshot this time too

Seriously though it presents a dilemma !! - It feels like I am on a serious hot streak so should keep going, but I know I will kick myself to death if I lose too much of what is effectively free money being greedy - when you feel like you just cannot lose, when do you stop?! Every time I have reversed £10-£15 all night I have won another £30-£50+ ...!

 

[homerbert]

Just hit my 2nd 3 reels wild of the night, this is crazy !! Total win was £48 ... managed a screenshot this time too

Seriously though it presents a dilemma !! - It feels like I am on a serious hot streak so should keep going, but I know I will kick myself to death if I lose too much of what is effectively free money being greedy - when you feel like you just cannot lose, when do you stop?! Every time I have reversed £10-£15 all night I have won another £30-£50+ ...!

i suggest you did not reverse your money, or it can end without anything good, really, relax, watch movie, play any video game, or just go sleep(its night in Europe ). Come on

 

[catapultaudio]

Yes I did a "last withdraw" of 254.59 to Skrill and left 30 in to play with but couldnt get another feature from the 30 so figure the streaks over and gonna sleep now... after fees that will be 250 into my bank account that i had no idea I was going to have til I logged into 32red today, awesome ..!!

 

[Balthazar]

Can't believe your having such poor bonus round frequency on this one

This is from with the "play until stop" autoplay. This number won't reset until you hit either a big win, the free spins or you run out of funds.

Look at this...



I ran out of funds, otherwise God knows how many more spins I'd have needed to get the feature.

 

[Balthazar]

This slot is the most dangerous of the series: the base game really sucks so a very large % of the RTP is stuck in the free spins...it can goes several hundreds of spins without giving the feature and when you get it, there's still a good possibility that it pays next to nothing.

While similar, this slot is even more dangerous than DoA IMO. I previously said that IR and TFROL had a higher variance (because of the pay table) but I now have to change my mind on that. Even if the top pay is less than the other 2, this slot is higher variance by a good margin as the RTP isn't balanced at all.

It really is an "all or nothing" slot.

Chopley thought about grinding it earlier in the thread because of the high RTP; well forget about that Chop... because that would be a very dangerous affair.

 

[catapultaudio]

Wow Balthazar, that is quite harsh, nearly 500 spins without the feature

It's amazing of course, as ever, the results that these random games can produce. I am definitely on an average of close to 100 spins per bonus after 6000 spins or so right now, for example.

Also, I thought the talk of this being lower variance as a result of the paytable etc must be very accurate because I have had a tonne of luck in the base game too, I seem to get lots and lots of 15-30x bet spins like 5OAK aces with wilds for 5x total, and quite a few even bigger hits eg 60x stake with wilds on reels 1,3,5 and then multiple good picture hits etcetc...

I do think that the wild night being put in a feature must have a dramatic effect though thats for sure, as whilst there are times you get 0 triggers, I've also had I think 7/8 in one bonus now and it's very rare you get a totally duff one ala TS2 as well, which I definitely found surprising.

For the time being it's easily my favourite of the 243 way games but I also want to mention this about it - when people lose badly and come on here complaining it's often said that nobody ever complains when they win too much - can't disagree with that one of course, but I do feel just a little bit ... spooked? weary? suspicious, maybe? You know I have had a TERRIBLE run recently, deposit after deposit lost, then yesterday I magically fin a £10 bonus in my account, start hitting slots with it and for hours just CANNOT LOSE ... finally beating wagering and cashing out £250 ... any other time I were to DEPOSIT £10, and try play it on slots, I would lose in a flash, I am sure of that. Even a £50 deposit is often not enough for a decent crack at many slots. It was for this reason I assumed I had no chance of finishing the WR and so decided I would simply play the game I wanted to right at that moment ...

Right now I really am intrigued to find out, is my hot streak still going? Will it continue when I deposit next? Or will I now spend the next 2 months once again paying back this cash out, which is how it's felt for me recently following a half-decent withdrawal in May.. I

 

[Bezim]

played over 3000 spins now without a bonus round.

I've never hit the bonus round on it yet.

Dont worry your not alone, first time i played got free spins all the time, after that nada.

 

[tinybettor]

Is 3000 rounds without seeing the bonus round even possible? If they were separate deposits spread out then that may be plausible but if they were consecutive then that's just real bad luck and almost impossible to believe.

I remember kktmd did some analysis of a few of the high variant 243 way slots and I don't remember correctly but I definitely believe it never took even close to 2000 spins to hit bonus round over a million+ spins. The most I spins I currently have gone through is rougly ~500 on this slot but I am averaging 150-200 on good days.

I'd definitely love to see if he or anyone can do an analysis of this slot as it would be very interesting to see the statistics on this one.

 

[Balthazar]

Is 3000 rounds without seeing the bonus round even possible? If they were separate deposits spread out then that may be plausible but if they were consecutive then that's just real bad luck and almost impossible to believe.

Unless the slot is rigged/compensated, it makes no difference at all.

 

[tinybettor]

Unless the slot is rigged/compensated, it makes no difference at all.

Well in any case, 3000 spins is a crapload to go without seeing the feature. I'd probably give up before the first 1000 spins, especially if the base game is paying nil all but will probably stick around out of curiosity just to see how many spins it would take.

 

[Balthazar]

Well in any case, 3000 spins is a crapload to go without seeing the feature. I'd probably give up before the first 1000 spins, especially if the base game is paying nil all but will probably stick around out of curiosity just to see how many spins it would take.

Not doubting xxshepxx' word but I'd like to see some real stats on that one. 3000 is indeed a very large number of spins.

 

[catapultaudio]

Definitely, I played this slot at two or three more casinos since the weekend and still hitting far more bonus rounds than either ir or ts2, not enough spins to be statistically significant obviously but it blows my mind to think anybody could manage even 1000 without a feature.

Would dearly love to see kktmd analysis of this game myself too but in the meantime think I will be playing it lots, its just so kind to me wherever I play it!

 

[stoney]

Going by my first few goes on this slot, I didnt get my first feature for ages. I was doing 30 - 40 spins at a time over a week with nothing. I guess I was just unlucky at those times but it did pay me out over the base game instead of the feature. At present Ive triggered it 4 times I think so Im still on the 1st feature choice.

 

[Balthazar]

As shown by kktmd in another thread, this slot is indeed the higher variance version of the family. Lowest RTP but the highest number of 1000x+ wins.

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[Rugger00]

I had $30 left so I decided to play Playboy last night went 232 spins without a feature. Quite a few 5oak that helped me keep going but not sure how many more spins I would of gone before the feature since I bet until I ran out of money. So I can see some people going several hundred spins without a feature and sympathy for the guy who went over 1000 without a feature.

 

[Balthazar]

One thing that is important to remember: With the Running Wilds feature, the wilds double the wins unlike all the other stacked wilds features on all the slots in the family. That's also unlike the wilds issued in the "wild wine" features on IR/TSII and TFROL.

We've seen so far 2 full screen of wilds on Playboy, both from the Running Wilds feature and my big win earlier today was also from that feature. I compared my win with other 4 wild reels (on IR and TFROL) posted in the "show me the money" thread and even though I didn't get the best symbols, mine paid more than those with higher paying symbols just because of the doubling thing.

Considering that it doubles and that the wilds appear to land fairly often (even when they don't make a "big win"), Running Wilds could be the best feature out there.

 

[kktmd]

Freeplay. Betsize: 0.30.

Bonus rounds count as 1 game (so I've put 1.352.442 spins on Playboy, resulting in aprox. 9.000 bonus rounds).

 

[kingsino]

Freeplay. Betsize: 0.30.

Bonus rounds count as 1 game (so I've put 1.352.442 spins on Playboy, resulting in aprox. 9.000 bonus rounds).

Great job! May I ask how you do your simulations?

Cheers!

 

[Balthazar]

A few interesting observations:

- The bonus rounds frequency on Playboy is the same as the other 3 of the family, approx 1:150 spin. There's no secondary feature though so sometimes it appears to take forever in between 2 features as it's the only thing going on.

- As suspected, the RTP is virtually the same on all the features but the variance isn't.

- The Running Wilds feature is where the big money is.

- The base game RTP on Playboy is roughly 61% and each feature averages a 54x return.

Finally, I've a question: The last column is called "variance", how should we interpret this number?

 

[kktmd]

@ kingsino: its not really a simulation as such. I use bots to play with MG's servers (freeplay - not real money!). I could do simulations, but my goal is to see how close MG's servers are to the expected result. I log all data in a MySql DB.

@ Balthazar: I use MySql's Variance function (which gives me the square of standard deviation). In statictics, it is a measure of how far a set of numbers is spread out (you probably know that already). A high number means a big difference between lowest and highest wins. A lot number means you will have a lot of same-size wins. A variance of 0 means you get the same win every time (=RTP*Bet -> a VERY boring slot).

 

[ChopleyIOM]

A lot number means you will have a lot of same-size wins. A variance of 0 means you get the same win every time (=RTP*Bet -> a VERY boring slot).

Also known as a NetEnt slot.

 

[kktmd]

Also known as a NetEnt slot.

haha...you are going to upset the DOA crowd!

 

[Balthazar]

haha...you are going to upset the DOA crowd!

Speaking of which, having stats like that on DoA would be awesome.

 

[kktmd]

I'd really like to do that, but NetEnt uses encrypted communication between client and server....I will look at it when I get some spare time...

 

[catapultaudio]

Hi kktmd! I really appreciate your work on this, your doing just what I would be doing at the moment if I wasn't so snowed under in my personal life - I work on php/mysql/ajax all day long and a couple of years back there would be nothing I would enjoy more than a personal project like compiling these sort of stats relating to another of my hobbies ... infact the more I think about it the more I think I ought to have a crack at it ... but thank you, I really am grateful for the time you've spent on the statistics

My thoughts:

- I'm glad to know the bonus round frequency across your sample - I've upped my bets 3 times today after passing the 150 mark and each time got a feature... though annoyingly, none of them have paid more than 30x bet (compared to a 0.30 spin that got me 233x on the wild night feature, grrr!)

- The variance on the running wilds is clearly phenomenal, I personally have not managed more than around 30-40x stake from that feature full stop, I am tempted to give it a thorough blast one session in the hope of seeing a better result, is it possible for you to give some more specifics about the spread of your results for this particular feature? IE, how many games were <50x, >100x, >250x, >1000x stake ??

- Does your data tell you how many reels wild you got in the wild night feature? Obviously you never got the full 5 reels, but do you know if you got 4? And how many times you hit 3? I've had 3 reels wild 4 times now which I'm really loving if it continues that way, as I've only seen it once on IR and never on TS2!

-

 

[kktmd]

Playboy - Running5.

2249 bonus rounds. Distribution of win size.

 

[kktmd]

Playboy - Jilllian - Wild reel count. Didnt even get 4 wild reels in 2230 bonus rounds! Table shows spin count.

 

[wobble33]

guys
took at nice offer yesterday £300 for £300 bonus. played immortal romance got it up to £1300.00 only had 2.7k left to wager decided to give playboy a go! wish I didn't bother! upped stake after every 100 spins from 60-90-120 etc etc.. not 1 single freespin round in 940 spins! killed my balance and all my profit. wont be playing this tripe again.

 

[akrus88]

guys
took at nice offer yesterday £300 for £300 bonus. played immortal romance got it up to £1300.00 only had 2.7k left to wager decided to give playboy a go! wish I didn't bother! upped stake after every 100 spins from 60-90-120 etc etc.. not 1 single freespin round in 940 spins! killed my balance and all my profit. wont be playing this tripe again.

Playboy has been quite kind to me. But it can be truly brutal. I had one session with starting balance of 160€. First 80€ with 0,3€ and then 80€ with 0,6€ bet. 600 rounds and game over without bonus.

 

[b3b44]

sometimes it can be nice also
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/winner-videos.42826/

 

[akrus88]

Playboy - Running5.

2249 bonus rounds. Distribution of win size.

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Really interesting, thank you! Surprising, how hard it is actually to get over 100xbet from the bonus round. Allso surprised that the most common win is under 10xbet.

 

[lotusch]

My best hit sofar,few minutes ago:
€0.60 stake:

 

[Sandro83]

just tried it. 450 spins without feature

 

[Nate]

If you stick around... and I mean stick around 1000+ Spins you mind find that the Bonus rounds pitch up a few times after a prolonged dry spell.... Same with Immortal romance. I'm sure it eventually averages out to 1 in 150 spins.

My last session was not kind - 4600 Spins - 88% RTP and my biggest hit was about 250x...

Nate

 

[Jeannie]

even though i said i dislike it i am still playing to fully unlock it (can't not finish what i started ya know). Maybe it's ok after all...

last spin, 1.20 in wins (whoop de do) before this spin...