My online slots videos (plus UK AWPs)

[Jono777]

"So it's possible in gambling that it's not the case of total abstension, but a kind of 'reduced/managed addiction?"

This, to me is possibly the best description I have seen of old school fruit machine players who have grown up, moved on, taken responsibilities on but still to this day love a punt.

If we were all 100% honest, I would say it describes a very large majority of the membership here.

I openly admit I would find it hard to totally just stop all forms of gambling altogether (these days it is just online slots really) , main reason being finding something to replace those long boring evenings and the habit rather than full on addiction.

BIG difference being from when I was fresh out of college that nowadays ALL bills are paid prior to even thinking of slotting, along with everything else which needs attending to, together with a strict budget, low stake policy, withdraw as and where possible every time and its ultra, mega rare I ever stray even £10 over budget.

Back in my VERY naive days, although available I never went anywhere near the gay toilets in town where most people with a pulse could make a quick £20 for the arcades but I would get the sick feeling when going skint and "needing" more cash for the fruities or blowing too much so I could barely scrape 1/2 a lager rather than my regular 4-5 pints.

Its true what they say that "We live and learn" - well in most cases.

 

[dunover]

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Back in my VERY naive days, although available I never went anywhere near the gay toilets in town where most people with a pulse could make a quick £20 for the arcades but I would get the sick feeling when going skint and "needing" more cash for the fruities or blowing too much so I could barely scrape 1/2 a lager rather than my regular 4-5 pints.

Its true what they say that "We live and learn" - well in most cases.

Where did you live - Brighton?? :xxx:

I must point out that sodomy and blowing in terms of gambling are only metaphors mate! (or at least I THOUGHT they were!)

 

[sufferinsilence]

Basically setting a deposit limit could be seen as managing your addiction.

 

[pinnit2014]

'Back in the day' Jono, you sure? You said the other day, at 7ish, you'd be able to play at 9pm. Why the 2 hours? 'Because i need to make it happen'

20 quids way too low mate: there's been an exodus cos of Brexit VISA's, so look to go 35-40 and up those 9p DOA's to 18p, at least. Plus point for Brexit here as well: Jono, the sexy street worker, gets more moolah

 

[mack341]

Chop I can see now why you were putting this chapter off, having watched parts 1-4 (some twice) it wasn't a total surprise the addiction would drive you to act in more desperate ways that were not yourself. I could almost feel the tension and sense of foreboding when you described the phone ringing, and you knew what it was about "hello"... 'Alex!'

Some great comments under the vid on youtube, is part 6 going to be a delve into the roots of the addiction?

It was nice to see you and Mrs Degsy at the end, I suppose it could be argued without the fruit machine addiction the timing of things might not have worked out, so have to say in a way, despite the times of despair, all's well that ends well.

 

[johnnymcc1966]

"So it's possible in gambling that it's not the case of total abstension, but a kind of 'reduced/managed addiction?"

This, to me is possibly the best description I have seen of old school fruit machine players who have grown up, moved on, taken responsibilities on but still to this day love a punt.

If we were all 100% honest, I would say it describes a very large majority of the membership here.

I openly admit I would find it hard to totally just stop all forms of gambling altogether (these days it is just online slots really) , main reason being finding something to replace those long boring evenings and the habit rather than full on addiction.

BIG difference being from when I was fresh out of college that nowadays ALL bills are paid prior to even thinking of slotting, along with everything else which needs attending to, together with a strict budget, low stake policy, withdraw as and where possible every time and its ultra, mega rare I ever stray even £10 over budget.

Back in my VERY naive days, although available I never went anywhere near the gay toilets in town where most people with a pulse could make a quick £20 for the arcades but I would get the sick feeling when going skint and "needing" more cash for the fruities or blowing too much so I could barely scrape 1/2 a lager rather than my regular 4-5 pints.

Its true what they say that "We live and learn" - well in most cases.

Blame the shite that passes for terrestrial television for forcing more men online to gamble away their earnings. Bonanza is an absolute twat but when the other option is Strictly Cum Prancing then Bonanza will always win.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

@mack341 @dunover @Jono777

Thanks for your replies and comments, there have been quite a few questions/comments left on the video already about the aftermath/fallout of Ebbs#5 so what I'll do is a follow-on 'Q&A' style video for it and I'll answer your questions in that video if that's alright? (The same applies to the comments left on the video.)

I think it'll make more sense to do it that way and work better overall than me replying to a load of different questions in multiple posts here and replies to comments on the video.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Hey folks here's the follow-on video, hopefully addresses the questions and points raised

 

[incrediblestuff]

Good stuff! To make it more realistic can we have:

1. Shoulder-surfers watching your play, sharking to see how much you lose.
2. Random entrances of smack-heads trying to sell you shoplifted jars of coffee, razor blades, deodorants and clothes.
3. Some screaming Bar-x's with a line of grannies and wheeled shopping trollies for you to trip over.
4. After the sound of a large bank collected an attendant approaching and saying "I hope you're not expecting notes for that lot, I've run out.."
5. A wino clutching a can of special brew, doing a swift recce of the coin trays on all the unplayed machines at hourly intervals.
6. Some laminated A4 sheets placed on random machines stating "Machine Taken" while the addict is up the ATM or trying to pawn their necklace at Cash Converters.
7. AT 30-minute intervals another skint player approaching you saying " Lemme a fiver, this one's gonna drop right now and I'll give you a tenner back when it has.."

Lmao, the good 'ole days eh? Despite growing up on the other side of the pond, it's kind of 'refreshing' to see that the usual suspects are the same everywhere

God i hated those shoulder watchers...despicable lot if you ask me!

There's ofc. a big difference between the people that just wanted to play their fav. machine and the greedy fcks that literally made this their 'business model'...

 

[mack341]

Hey folks here's the follow-on video, hopefully addresses the questions and points raised

Just watched that Chop, that was a pleasant surprise to have my post mentioned ? ...I think a Q&A was the best way, grunge and nirvana wasn't my scene but will give the doc a watch, must've been unbelievable to the fans when the news broke. It's amazing how much memory and feeling relating to a time can be brought back vividly by an item of clothing. Thanks for sharing the even more personal bits, and in the way you do, makes me reflect and I don't do enough of that sometimes without a spur.

 

[philderby]

I got my comment read out too nice to have that personal touch

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Another old videogame review/play session.

 

[dealer wins]

Gambling addiction is just like any other addiction, horrible, nasty and can destroy your life. Does anyone remember a guy that did a series of videos on youtube, "diary of a compulsive gambler" They are long deleted by wow they were raw and very real.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Another video about old UK AWPs, I've got a new slots video recorded, just need to get it edited together, rendered out and uploaded, it'll be online tomorrow.

 

[goatwack]

Hey folks here's the follow-on video, hopefully addresses the questions and points raised

I ended up watching all five parts over about three days, after having seen your critique of NLC's Mental slot and thinking that I needed to catch up on your Low Ebb chronicles.

Most striking were the fairly normal, everyday travails suddenly punctuated by moments of sheer irrationality, though whilst recognizing them in states of lucidity, brought about by anxiety, poor lifestyle choices, some 'influential vices' and a lack of connection with quite a few of your peers and even your family.

Astounded at Missus Degsy's saint-like empathy and unconditional support through some prolonged tribulations, I think she's to be admired greatly for that, and shows immense strength of character.

Needless to say the 'alarm....but is it?' segment was unbelievably to the point and graphic, the strained relationship with your dad but who then helped you out despite your fallout, and the policeman trying to force some perspective into your stupefied state.

Have to admit the breakdown of when you detailed your partner's concern post- car wrecking took me by surprise, and I found that and the walk along the pier pretty harrowing. Seeing that all laid bare just shows that human element that no online avatar could ever betray, and lays to rest the notion that we all know each other's personalities based on our digital disguises.

All in all it was a very thought-provoking series and I await the (final?) part TBA, thankyou for the fascinating insight into this treacherous affliction and how you came out stronger for it

On another note, how t f does anyone complete Chase HQ on a single credit?? I call BS

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Thank you goatwack I appreciate your kind comments. It's been a difficult series to do in many ways, but also quite cleansing in others. In terms of getting positive reactions with Likes and comments left on the videos, (way beyond what my normal videos receive), they have clearly chimed with many other people who've struggled, or are struggling, with addiction - so if they provide even some small amount of succour to a few folks, then it was worth it.

I am under no illusion as to how lucky I have been in terms of the family, friends, and of course Mrs Chopley who never gave up on me, even in the darkest of times. (I did lose friends to the addiction though, and of course there was the dumping in Part 5 which fruit machines were partially responsible for.)

I will get Part 6 done, I'm not looking forward to it at all, and yet part of me wants to get it done, to address the pain once and for all. (mack has already kind of worked out the theme.)

As I say in the Ebbs 5 Q&A video you linked in your post, I wouldn't have made it through the series without the support and kind comments of others, so thanks again for your words above.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Latest slots video went online yesterday, I've linked it in the Evil Goblins thread already but I'll stick it here too to keep this thread up to date.

I don't like putting the boot into NLC, particularly since they have an active presence here at CM, but this crap with the feature buys has gone too far IMO.

 

[geordiecolin]

Where did you live - Brighton?? :xxx:

I must point out that sodomy and blowing in terms of gambling are only metaphors mate! (or at least I THOUGHT they were!)

I was told that NoLimitCity got many of their ideas for their slots from such activities in their youth

 

[dealer wins]

Another video about old UK AWPs, I've got a new slots video recorded, just need to get it edited together, rendered out and uploaded, it'll be online tomorrow.

I love most fruit machines from the 80s and 90s, but these were so shit lol Great video though but they really were dire to play.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I love most fruit machines from the 80s and 90s, but these were so shit lol Great video though but they really were dire to play.

I remember them giving me many a kicking in the real world, but on the original £6 jackpot, set to a nice percentage of 84/86% in the emulator, they actually give a pretty good game, with plenty going on. Really nice sample packages too.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Oh compensated machines we love you so......

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Why take that on a skill bonus tho?

Or was it for the purpose of the vid?

 

[ChopleyIOM]

The virtual arcade has been updated with a load of new machines and some other improvements.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Entirely subjective, but I bloody well hate these things.

(New slots video is already recorded, I'm just doing the edit now, it'll be rendered out, uploaded and online sometime tomorrow.)

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Two new online slots in dual-slot play for this one. Odin's Watch which is a new slot by 3Dice (they don't release new games very often!), and a new Blueprint called The Goonies Return.

 

[mack341]

Odin left you with a balance roughly 3 times the size of the goonies after a good number of spins and features iirc. I think pitching a 3dice game against a medium/low variance branded slot is an interesting test - where does all the money go mr Blueprint?
Degsy Degworth takes on the playtechs is also something I'd quite like to watch

 

[pinnit2014]

I quite liked The Goonies new yin when i played it - random features, check, bonus 5 times check

It was like the anti NLC slot and whilst i never left with enough cash to buy my house early, it was fun.

Which, in todays era, is a win.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

A fantastic old UK fruit machine by JPM.

Not much in the pipeline in terms of online slots videos at the moment, as the vast majority of my play these days is at 3Dice (I've done over 24,000 spins there this month alone and I'll be playing there again this evening), but as per an earlier comment I've covered all the games there already (sometimes more than once!) and I've done a video about their latest game too). Maybe one day Kyoko's Quest will get the promised remake!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

More old UK fruit machine stuff, as for online slots I'm currently sat on a 100% bonus offer from Novibet but I want to see how all the autoplay changes land before committing to a deposit 'cause I ain't playing online slots without autoplay. It looks like I'll be getting the gimped UK versions even though I don't live in the UK. That leaves Unibet.com and Maria.com where I can play the international versions that still have autoplay and suchlike but they're really stingy with bonus offers and playing random games with a house edge with no bonus in play seems a bit like a pointless waste of money.

As such I can see me getting even more focused as a 3Dice player, as I get my VIP match offers which whilst modest, are at least EV+ and proper bonuses, and I know the games well so don't risk an NLC style shafting whereby my deposit disappears faster than the naked eye can perceive.

What I might do for an online slots video is have 3Dice running in real mode and review new slots elsewhere in demo play, I'll see how it goes.

Anyway, the machines featured in this video date from 1988-1990, in 1990 I was at college and spending lots of time in arcades when I should have been in lectures or doing studies....

 

[Jono777]

I'll have a watch a bit later mate, thumbnail alone brings back a LOT of memories lol

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Another old UK AWP, a clone of Roller Coaster that was far less of a common sight.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Latest videos on the channel.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Compensated fruit machine in vulnerable to fuckery shocker.

Had some of these for real back in the day, good earners!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Just a short video for this one, sister machine to Mortal Wombat but didn't have the rip on it.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

A rare and very entertaining £15 Barcrest AWP for this one, hailing from 2000/2001.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Since I'm not playing online slots at the moment due to all the RTP gimping and loss of autoplay, here's a reupload from October 2012 when I took on four NetEnt progressives simultaneously at RedBet. Hall Of Gods, Mega Fortune, Tiki Wonders and Super Lucky Frog. I then move onto quad-slot play of more conventional slots in an attempt to make wagering.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Some great old UK 2p play AWP machines from 1988-1990 - lots of entertainment for not much money!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Going for the ambitious triple jackpot on the old 2p PCP machine Fruit Cracker, which had a £2 jackpot. That's 300x stake if you can get it!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Diversifying away from online slots at pisstake percentages.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

More old fruit machines innit.

There are two new slots at 3Dice though, so I'll be covering those in a video in due course. One of them is in a new high volatility category all by itself, which is interesting.

 

[Jono777]

Made a small fortune from these 2 back in the day.

Would rinse the JPM Fireball of tokens first then head for these 2 which were side by side in our local Quicksilver.

Not watched the video yet, will later but found out well after the event there was a Jackpot guarantee 'cheat' on the Coconut Shy on Fairground.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Made a small fortune from these 2 back in the day.

Would rinse the JPM Fireball of tokens first then head for these 2 which were side by side in our local Quicksilver.

Not watched the video yet, will later but found out well after the event there was a Jackpot guarantee 'cheat' on the Coconut Shy on Fairground.

I've deliberately used earlier £6 ROMs for Fairground which doesn't have the emptier, although I do talk about the Cocount Shy emptier. Apparently it was a test routine introduced on the £8 jackpot to allow the tester to verify all the values were paid correctly by the feature, and the coders forgot to take it out for release...... (I cover this in the video.)

As for Hot Dogs, I wasn't aware there was a 'thing' on that, what did you do to win on it? Or was it just the standard issue value-drain for a JPM if it was numbering?

 

[Jono777]

Nowt special on Hot Dogs mate.

Just the numbering thing and cross holding worked really well on it, holding any random pair then the 3rd time the matching pair, worked very well on JPM's and Red Bars.

The Quicksilver in Queen Street Wolverhampton was daily CRAZY busy from 10-4 so you could hit the same machine 2-3 times A DAY! - The two in your video were awesome for converting tokens to cash.

I'd get in early but not too early so most machines had a fill from the "none experts" or "addicts as we called them, then hit the token repeaters and fill up pockets. Patience time would then arrive and when the were full, ready and free to play head for those 2 machines, along with Road Hog and Viva las Vegas. As best I recall, all 4 were in a line so me n fruity machine pal would play 2 machines each at one time.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Numbering alone is very powerful, holy crap I wish I'd have known about it back in the day! I remember getting my arse handed to me by JPMs and not understanding how a £6 jackpot machine could take so much money, alas I didn't understand the concept of a skilled player being able to leave them with absolutely no value in them.

By the time I learned about numbering towards the middle-back end of the £15 era, the days of JPMs were coming to an end, although there were still some in the pubs and a few hung on in arcades, a £15 Roller Coaster in particular I managed to do well out of when showing 1/12.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Taking a compensated machine so far over percentage it goes into a CRITICAL ERROR state and almost literally asks you to ring its mum for help.

 

[Spikie]

@ Jono777 , how did you learn the emptiers and tricks ? Did you discover tricks just through playing , or was there a network for ‘buying’ cheats ?

Maybe Choppers can do a video on the whole business of finding the cheats and dealing with diffferent players in different areas , troubles etc..

It would be interesting.

 

[dunover]

Basically
Any
Retard
Can
Really
Easily
Streak
Them

 

[Jono777]

@ Jono777 , how did you learn the emptiers and tricks ? Did you discover tricks just through playing , or was there a network for ‘buying’ cheats ?

Maybe Choppers can do a video on the whole business of finding the cheats and dealing with diffferent players in different areas , troubles etc..

It would be interesting.

Trial and error, out of town visitors to our local arcades/pubs/clubs and the odd "inside info" from one or two of the staff we got close to.

One of the best which was the Barcrest Up n' Over £15 jackpot was a pure fluke.

I was just pissed off with losing the one day, I randomly tried going the opposite way on the numbers on the Hi-Lo reels.

Imagine my elation as I discovered it actually worked lol!!!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Trial and error, out of town visitors to our local arcades/pubs/clubs and the odd "inside info" from one or two of the staff we got close to.

One of the best which was the Barcrest Up n' Over £15 jackpot was a pure fluke.

I was just pissed off with losing the one day, I randomly tried going the opposite way on the numbers on the Hi-Lo reels.

Imagine my elation as I discovered it actually worked lol!!!

My personal experience over the years has been that a small numbers of players actually work things out and/or get inside info, and then it gradually gets spread/sold throughout the player community, generally finding its way into more hands as its value decreases.

I actually had a couple of pretty good contacts at one point who were pretty up to date with the latest info, and they'd pass it over to me as I live on the IOM so we'd never tread on each other's toes.

Of course that's a more recent thing, back in the early 90s (when I didn't have a clue) methods and tricks could last for months or even years, thanks to it being a pre-internet, pre-mobile phone type of world.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

A magnificent update to the arcade!