My online slots videos (plus UK AWPs)

Looks like this format is the way to go, I'd've said.

So for the next video games piece I expect a side-by-side breakdown of Ms Pacman vs God of War 4 :cool:

Just a brief window of optimism today, when I saw the new SLOTTING video on this SLOTS forum and we glimpsed some SLOTS chat and now I've been cruelly shot down by the World Of Gaycraft brigade again.....:machinegunner:
 
Just a brief window of optimism today, when I saw the new SLOTTING video on this SLOTS forum and we glimpsed some SLOTS chat and now I've been cruelly shot down by the World Of Gaycraft brigade again.....:machinegunner:
Can't we all just get along? :D

We have politics, sports and other miscellaneous goodness on CM too incase you hadn't noticed dearie!

And anyway, this is Chopley's thread you git :laugh:
 
This video contains extra info about Videoslots wagering that some people might not be aware of

What was the WR on the 200% bonus again? I'm trying to figure out if it's better mathematically to play a 93% RTP slot and release the bonus quickly or play a 98% slot. Because the difference in the number of spins required is huge between a slot that contributes 175% vs 50%.
 
I really enjoyed this video Chopley.
Anyway keep em coming.
Love your vids mate.

Mark.

Cheers Mark really appreciate the comments, I do put quite a bit of effort into the videos and dissecting the T&Cs at VS to get that section correct took a little chunk of time so it's nice to know folks are getting something out of it :)

Videoslots' RTP/wagering contribution is highly flawed as it doesn't take into account the base game RTP allocated minus feature RTP. It's likely they don't know this for most slots, but as you infer a 94% slot which has say 75%+ allocated to the base game RTP (see the Cayetano games for example) is a far better wagering proposition than a 97% game with say 65% allocated to base game RTP.

I am very surprised you chose Hitman for a wagering attempt!! It's very volatile and can go on notorious runs of thousands of spins without seeing even a 50x feature or win. It's the last game I'd have chosen - brave man!

It wouldn't have my first choice on a traditional match bonus but I was fairly sanguine about busting out as it's a post-wager bonus, was hoping it would have played better than it did though!

And yes I'm sure there's a clever way to play VS bonuses with a bit more info on pay distribution.

What was the WR on the 200% bonus again? I'm trying to figure out if it's better mathematically to play a 93% RTP slot and release the bonus quickly or play a 98% slot. Because the difference in the number of spins required is huge between a slot that contributes 175% vs 50%.

20xB so £4000 on 96% slots (which contribute 100% to wagering), but with a 94% RTP slot contributing 150% you do have to wonder if that'd be a better bet. I can only assume VS have crunched the numbers but as dunover indicated above, an LV slot with a lot of RTP in the base game would mathematically be more advantageous for the player. (I think that's the case, anyway.)

It also makes playing slots with high RTPs very unappealing when on a bonus. There were some slots (such as Supernova) that I was actively avoiding as they'd have only been contributing 50% (or less!) to the wagering.
 
20xB so £4000 on 96% slots (which contribute 100% to wagering), but with a 94% RTP slot contributing 150% you do have to wonder if that'd be a better bet. I can only assume VS have crunched the numbers but as dunover indicated above, an LV slot with a lot of RTP in the base game would mathematically be more advantageous for the player. (I think that's the case, anyway.)

So the smartest approach to beat that bonus would be big bets on a low RTP slot, preferably one with no bonus round at all (a "traditional" 3-line slot would be perfect). The bigger the bets, the fewer spins you need and the less you should feel the lower RTP (in theory).


It also makes playing slots with high RTPs very unappealing when on a bonus.

I think this bonus is great when you're not trying to beat it. Just play normally like you would without a bonus and you get some extra cash added to your account from time to time. That's the spirit of this bonus IMO.
 
Just play normally like you would without a bonus and you get some extra cash added to your account from time to time. That's the spirit of this bonus IMO.
Thats what I do - I just spin at reasonable bets and enjoy
usually the next day i ask chat if i cleared wr and cash out - i dont ever bother checking along the way
 
I think this bonus is great when you're not trying to beat it. Just play normally like you would without a bonus and you get some extra cash added to your account from time to time. That's the spirit of this bonus IMO.

Yeah I think that's what I'll do in future should a bonus appear in my account, although there is the psychological element of playing a slot like Supernova and knowing that each spin is only contributing 50% to the wagering.

I guess VR are extrapolating the bonus wagering contributions across thousands of players and millions of spins, so for them it'll all work out correctly in the end, but for an individual player who's only going to be doing a few hundred spins or a couple of thousand perhaps, on any given slot, T-RTP is unlikely to really make itself felt so I still think lower RTP LV slots would be a better way to play if purely trying to unlock the full bonus.
 
A fruit machine emulation video this week, so neither online slots or videogames, I'm afraid!

(On the plus side, making this video didn't cost me £200.......)

 
Remember all this fruit machine emulation stuff is available completely free of charge from the various fruit machine emulation sites.

If anyone wants a copy of the complete collection just drop me a PM and I'll give you my address to send a USB key to, I'll copy the collection to the key and send it back to you.

There are hundreds of machines emulated going all the way back to the early 80s, right up to around 2014/2015.

Obviously you can't win any money but the machines are often entertaining GAMES in their own right.
 
Another reupload from 2012, but for anyone who still misses Jackpot Party it might make for a nice little bit of nostalgia.

dunover will love this as it has trance all the way through it, except during the Jackpot Party Progressive round.

 
Another reupload from 2012, but for anyone who still misses Jackpot Party it might make for a nice little bit of nostalgia.

dunover will love this as it has trance all the way through it, except during the Jackpot Party Progressive round.


I want your wanktastic 20-spin Bruce Lee one back again!!!! :eek::D
 
I want your wanktastic 20-spin Bruce Lee one back again!!!! :eek::D

That's been on the channel for ages :)

Skip to 1h:13m:50s for the start of the 20 free spins round.

 
Jackpot Party - Still a very amazing an fun slot to play. :):)

The slot called 'Super Jackpot Party' itself you mean? It's a nice little slot to play but one of the lowest variance slots ever, I only ever used it for dependable wagering.
 
The slot called 'Super Jackpot Party' itself you mean? It's a nice little slot to play but one of the lowest variance slots ever, I only ever used it for dependable wagering.

Ah yes, I was thinking the same when I posted the reply hahaha.
I still do play it in some of my sessions.
Very enjoyable and indeed very low variance indeed.

Loved your Bruce Lee win by the way.
Did not see that video before.
I play this slot too but not very often as it is just mega high variance and indeed to have the 2 features hit together must be insanely hard.
Never happened to me but I think it is like the hot mode in Terminator II for example..Super duper rare..
Had the Hot Mode on TII twice tho, once on my first set of free spins on Leo Vegas,€1.50 bet.

 
That's been on the channel for ages :)

Skip to 1h:13m:50s for the start of the 20 free spins round.

Oh good.....I've been waiting for you to re-upload that 20 spin bonus round on Bruce Lee for quite a while Choppers. It seems I too was blissfully unaware it was already there. :oops:

I remember watching that vid when I was still quite the online slots and CM rookie and I thought "now THAT's a fucking bonus round!"

Going to enjoy an evening of catching up on your recent vids. Keep them coming, they are awesome. :thumbsup:

Can't we all just get along? :D

We have politics, sports and other miscellaneous goodness on CM too incase you hadn't noticed dearie!

And anyway, this is Chopley's thread you git :laugh:

Quite right mate, I don't know who this Mr. D thinks he is. Anyone would think that Choppers had spent 4 years away from this forum and he has heroically returned to re-claim his CM ORIGINAL AND BEST crown. And old grumpy bollocks doesn't like it one bit.
One could be forgiven for thinking that Mr. D is viewing Choppers long-overdue return to CM with the same chagrin that King John had when Richard the Lionheart returned to Ing-er-land after the Crusades.

Mr. D, accept yourself for what we know you are, a mere copycat who (admirably tried and succeeded) to fill the void that Chopley left 4 years ago. :p

But now that Choppers is back, you need to step aside bro. Just like King John did. :laugh:
 
Loved your Bruce Lee win by the way.
Did not see that video before.
I play this slot too but not very often as it is just mega high variance and indeed to have the 2 features hit together must be insanely hard.

TBH I don't think it's that high variance, it's certainly nothing like the nonsensical slots that are being shunted out today by some providers.

The 20 free spins round is mega-rare for sure, but I don't think it accounts for much of the RTP and it was always possible to have a decent session on the slot without getting it.

Also, WMS were very good at having generous numbers of feature hits in the 100-250x range, probably because they didn't have 5000x and more hits to pay for.

I note it's still around (VS have it on their books) but the autoplay feature seems to have been removed for some reason which basically makes it unplayable :(

Oh good.....I've been waiting for you to re-upload that 20 spin bonus round on Bruce Lee for quite a while Choppers. It seems I too was blissfully unaware it was already there. :oops:

I remember watching that vid when I was still quite the online slots and CM rookie and I thought "now THAT's a fucking bonus round!"

Going to enjoy an evening of catching up on your recent vids. Keep them coming, they are awesome. :thumbsup:

Cheers mcgameboy :) Have a look back through the channel's older videos if you're minded to, as there are already quite a lot of reuploads from 2012-2014. (The new channel has been running since December 2017.)

That hit on Bruce Lee is kind of what I'm getting at when I say I don't see any point in slots having RTP chewed up by these 5000-8000x stake wins, 1689x doesn't even sound 'that big' by modern standards, but in reality most folks would be delighted to hit something like that even now.

Hopefully this will serve as inspiration to get Chopley to not renege on the video games content :D

Bit of Street Fighter

Yes I'll get round to more videogame content at some point! Can't promise on timescales, but it will happen :)
 
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A reupload from 2012 where my videos came with bouncy text and loud trance - all at no extra charge!

I do miss playing at 3Dice, their slots did medium-high variance right IMO, with some genuinely imaginative features and slot design. (And a proper 3D graphics engine!)

Also features bonus heckling from Degsy Jnr at 14m02s.

 
Hopefully this will serve as inspiration to get Chopley to not renege on the video games content :D

Had a bit of free time today so got this done :)

 
I too have never played a round of Golf in my life, if I were to attempt a swing I'd look like a drunk fencer.

But golf games make for terrific fun, I concur. Multiplayer 'Links Golf' evokes teary-eyed nostalgia already :D

My favourite is still Neo Turf Masters on the NeoGeo though, a glorious bastard of a game

 
Ahhh yes I'm a big fan of Neo Turf Masters and many other of the great arcade golfing titans - Golfing Greats, Major Title and so on.

The thing with those games (as splendid as they are) is that they're arcade games and are ultimately designed to take cash off you to proceed through the courses (often requiring birdies just to survive past a couple of holes), so some of the holes get pretty ridiculous with nonsensical wind speeds and suchlike. (Although I have got it in my head I was able to 1-credit Neo Turf Masters in one of my younger, more sexy guises.)

TBH I think they're almost two different genres, the 'arcade' golf game, and the 'home' golf game, with Everybody's Golf clearly being a 'home' golf game. That said, totally agree there are some real classics in the 'arcade' family as well. (And that's one of the reasons why I always keep MAME around!)
 
A reupload from 2012 where my videos came with bouncy text and loud trance - all at no extra charge!

I do miss playing at 3Dice, their slots did medium-high variance right IMO, with some genuinely imaginative features and slot design. (And a proper 3D graphics engine!)

Also features bonus heckling from Degsy Jnr at 14m02s.

"DAD! Daaaad! Turn that shit off please!"
 
Had a bit of free time today so got this done :)



Chopley, I prefer the look of this golfing game compared to something like pga tour, it looks good fun to me as a non golfer. Also I liked the way you reviewed the game as you played it, in real time, rather than using a montage of clips. It's got a real arcade feel to it which is nice to see, games with photo realistic graphics seem to dominate video gaming, but we could do with some more pure arcade style games in all the different genres, racing, football etc.. Also interesting that this style of graphics seem to test the ps4 pro's capabilities more than the god of war style?
 
Chopley, I prefer the look of this golfing game compared to something like pga tour, it looks good fun to me as a non golfer. Also I liked the way you reviewed the game as you played it, in real time, rather than using a montage of clips. It's got a real arcade feel to it which is nice to see, games with photo realistic graphics seem to dominate video gaming, but we could do with some more pure arcade style games in all the different genres, racing, football etc.. Also interesting that this style of graphics seem to test the ps4 pro's capabilities more than the god of war style?

Yeah I'm really not a fan of dry simulation games like Links and PGA. Everybody's Golf has enough real golfing mechanics to feel like a proper golf game, but makes it fun, arcadey and accessible.

As for the game not running as well as it should, I just don't think it's a particularly well-optimised graphics engine, the PS4 Pro should definitely be able to knock it around at 1080p@60FPS IMO.
 
More old UK AWPs this week. I'm afraid I'm finding it very hard to find the motivation to chuck money at online slots at the moment, maybe it's just me but deposits don't feel like they go as far as they did in the past.

 
More old UK AWPs this week. I'm afraid I'm finding it very hard to find the motivation to chuck money at online slots at the moment, maybe it's just me but deposits don't feel like they go as far as they did in the past.

Nope, not just you.

Been the subject of ridicule and debate numerous times during your break from CM mate.

Thing is time served / experienced players can see the difference big time :(
 
Not sure if we've seen all the best hits already on our favourites or if the games play differently, but some of the older games feel sterile.

Perhaps I don't allocate enough time to 'the classics' to really compare, but slotting overall is pretty ropey now. Less 'fun' and more like work half the time :D
 
More old UK AWPs this week. I'm afraid I'm finding it very hard to find the motivation to chuck money at online slots at the moment, maybe it's just me but deposits don't feel like they go as far as they did in the past.




Christ! I remember Sphinx in the amusement arcades back in 1998-99 time, I recall the centre was jackpot repeater and there was a skill stop sometimes plus a 'nudge timer' feature? This may be answered in the video but I haven't time to watch it right now so sorry if it is!
 
Nope, not just you.

Been the subject of ridicule and debate numerous times during your break from CM mate.

Thing is time served / experienced players can see the difference big time :(

The thing is Jono, I've been going back through my old videos as I review them before I reupload them, and what's struck me is the incredible playtime I used to get. My depositing and betting pattern hasn't changed (generally deposits of £100-£300, playing on small stakes of 20p-60p or thereabouts), but playing like that these days I generally just get blown to pieces over a session or two, whereas in the past that'd get me multiple sessions, hour after hour after hour.

Look at the Fortune Falls video I linked a few posts back, I was kicking that slot around for two days trying to get 5 scatters and my balance only nudged down a modest amount, and I still made a decent withdrawal before calling it a day. (And 3Dice's slots all run at pretty much bang on 95% RTP.)

Try that on modern slots and you'd just get annihilated. If we assume the slots are random and the RTPs reported are correct, I can only surmise that volatility has gone through the roof.
 
Can't remember if it was sphinx or pyramid but had the 8quid cash/5p version repeat from the middle to 32 nuggets once.
Again cant remember which one for what but one would gauruntee to offer some sort of exchange from the cash wins while the other one didn't until gambling at least once.
Can't remember if was just one or both but at least one version (6quid tokens anyway) didn't bounce on the reel skill.
I can however remember they were absolute GAMES!

Ah as dunover mentioned, nudge timer was qaulity, holding all the reels in order to be able to check your privilege.
 
My humble take on the "disappearing deposit" is the huge growth in competition.

5 years ago casinos could afford to "drip feed" our money away, slowly but surely but at the same time giving a lot longer session time overall most of the time.

Now with the huge amount of casinos available to choose from, they can no longer employ this "tactic" and have to see us off as quick as they can, whilst also trying to maintain interest and retention.

How they've gone about this is anyone's guess ( :rolleyes: ) but I too am regularly experiencing what you described earlier. Problem for me is my deposits are only ever £25 or thereabouts (due to budgeting and affordability) so 7/10 I'm a mega fast bust, briefly annoyed and bored for the rest of my evenings.

Lack of bonuses since the UKGC chances and being stuck on minimum bets constantly don't help matters :(
 
Yeah I've got absolutely spanked ealier this week with 10 consecutive $50 deposits (so $500 down the drain), little to no play time and not one of these deposits went over $70, which is crazy. I seriously got around ~2 hours of play time with $500 and stakes in the $0.50 to $0.60 range (no quick spin). I know it's just bad luck but I can't remember having a session this bad.
 
More old UK AWPs this week. I'm afraid I'm finding it very hard to find the motivation to chuck money at online slots at the moment, maybe it's just me but deposits don't feel like they go as far as they did in the past.



Totally agree mate. BTG definitely changed things. But you also have to look at developers like Merkur, Push Gaming and Red Tiger too.
Don't get me wrong, some of their games are very good and I do like some of them because of that big win potential, but boy, do they know to shred a bankroll fast.
Thing is, when you do catch them at the right time, they really can deliver.
I suppose the developers are catering for that "gamble/live fast, bustout/die young" market.

I'm probably in the same camp as you Choppers. I'm more inclined to embrace Immortal Romance-level variance than say (for example) Magic Mirror 2 variance.

I am finding that, more than ever, I am adjusting my bet size according to the games variance, rather than the size of my starting balance.
That's probably a "sub-optimal" winning strategy, but once you get carved up a little too often for your liking, suddenly playtime becomes more important than winning.

I wouldn't think twice about betting 60p to £1.20 on IR and the other MG 243 ways slots, but ask me to do the same on games like Magic Mirror, Donuts, Fat Rabbit, Laser Fruit or Extra Chilli and I'm definitely going to tell you to catch yourself on.
 
OK, so what we're saying is whereas before it was death by 1000 cuts, it's now death by 500 cuts? Or 100 if on Merkur. :eek2:

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Merkur was (is) my favorite Game Provider but i can not Play them anymore because some Idiots decided to Ban Germany to play Merkur Slots after so many Years which i can not understand what reason for till today </3 RIP Gold of Persia , Dragons Treasure , Jolly , Mirriors

That Day it came out was the badest ever in gambling for me..
 
So here's a reupload of another of my old 3Dice sessions, look at how much playtime I'm getting when I match my stake to my bankroll.

There's something fishy about modern slots and I'm just not happy playing them, hence no new online slots content on the channnel for a few weeks now.

Honestly, if there was an easy way for me to deposit and play at 3Dice, I'd happily reinstall their software and head off for a session there. I remember it was entirely common for me to deposit £100-£250, and fully expect to get an evening or a weekend's play out of that, and quite often make a withdrawal at the end of it. (And making a profit on a reasonably regular basis as well.)

In fairness I did take a bad kicking off Arctic Adventure when I really dug my heels in with it early on, but 3Dice gave me a few generous free chips and bonuses to help smooth over the bumps, and Enzo pulled all my stats for me to show that my overall RTP at his casino was pretty much bang on the expected 95% RTP. (I did lose overall at 3Dice, comfortably into four figures, so I'm not just saying this because I happened to get very lucky and finish up in profit at the casino.)

The key thing for me, the key difference to what I feel now, is that I always felt like I had a decent chance of getting a good session or a good weekend. It wasn't just 'win big or go home', it was about the playtime and having fun and enjoying the experience of playing. Yes I knew I was playing against a house edge and the casino would win in the end, but I always went into each session with optimism that there was a decent chance it'd be a good session.

I simply don't get that from modern slots.

 
I think with the older titles the RTP felt more evenly distributed in actuality and not just theory, so 90- 95% per session seemed about the norm.

These days I feel like I'm lucky to have attained 70% give or take, and with that goes any semblance of bankroll- building or having a lengthy session :(

And sadly yes, that is the template for modern slot design, get players to play hard & fast, the bastards :eek2:
 
Some, no make that most of today's sessions are a struggle from the start.

Often feel like I'm connected to a rusty old paint pot in some old Grandad's shed rather than a hi-tech server.

Brings out the foil hat time and again, something I never possessed a few years back win or lose, even on bad days it felt at least like I had a fair game / play time.

Also the length of losing streaks was never more than 2-3 deposits at most, now it drags well into double figures and often too.

Appreciate this could be "any" casino but last 12-15 sessions at Video Slots have been beyond awful, same games, same stakes, same spin volume, same results :( Similar if not worse at a casino I've played for years in 32 Red.

The very nature of the word "gambling" suggests the red part could not continually happen, another thing that when it does continually happen, it starts off all sorts of paranoid thoughts and has me making silly posts too :o (or are they.....?)
 
Also the length of losing streaks was never more than 2-3 deposits at most, now it drags well into double figures and often too.

This is the crux of it for me. We're all smart enough to know we're going to have losing sessions, and that ultimately we're going to lose more than we win, that's the house edge of random games doing its thing over time.

However, we need to feel like we've got a chance, because if that isn't there, we're basically just committing ourselves to what we believe will be a losing endeavour - at which point you're effectively just talking about playing due to addiction, and not for pleasure.

Since I last deposited I've thought a few times about dropping £100-£200 for some weekend slotting, and then held back because I don't believe I've got a decent chance of winning or even getting decent playtime, and as you say above Jono, in the past you knew things would kick back in your favour after two or three deposits, these days I just feel like the slots could take my money forever.

I think with the older titles the RTP felt more evenly distributed in actuality and not just theory, so 90- 95% per session seemed about the norm.

These days I feel like I'm lucky to have attained 70% give or take, and with that goes any semblance of bankroll- building or having a lengthy session :(

And sadly yes, that is the template for modern slot design, get players to play hard & fast, the bastards :eek2:

Indeed goatwack, it seems so easy to get behind the curve on a slot now, and never feel like you've got any chance of recovering to level pegging.

I fully understand that RTP evens out over millions of spins, but as you correctly note above, from session to session it was very common to get within the ballpark of expected RTP, sometimes up and sometimes down, but almost never these huge swings (which go down far more than up).

From my recent sessions where I was playing old slot/new slot and looking at the stats afterwards, the trusty old MG slots were getting close to their RTP and delivering a good overall play experience, whereas new stuff like Reactoonz was just destroying me.

When a game like Zelda Breath of the Wild costs £53 for my Switch, and delivers some 50-60 hours of quality gameplay, it's hard to justify chucking twice that amount at online slots and not even being guaranteed an evening's playtime.
 
This is the crux of it for me. We're all smart enough to know we're going to have losing sessions, and that ultimately we're going to lose more than we win, that's the house edge of random games doing its thing over time.

However, we need to feel like we've got a chance, because if that isn't there, we're basically just committing ourselves to what we believe will be a losing endeavour - at which point you're effectively just talking about playing due to addiction, and not for pleasure.

Since I last deposited I've thought a few times about dropping £100-£200 for some weekend slotting, and then held back because I don't believe I've got a decent chance of winning or even getting decent playtime, and as you say above Jono, in the past you knew things would kick back in your favour after two or three deposits, these days I just feel like the slots could take my money forever.



Indeed goatwack, it seems so easy to get behind the curve on a slot now, and never feel like you've got any chance of recovering to level pegging.

I fully understand that RTP evens out over millions of spins, but as you correctly note above, from session to session it was very common to get within the ballpark of expected RTP, sometimes up and sometimes down, but almost never these huge swings (which go down far more than up).

From my recent sessions where I was playing old slot/new slot and looking at the stats afterwards, the trusty old MG slots were getting close to their RTP and delivering a good overall play experience, whereas new stuff like Reactoonz was just destroying me.

When a game like Zelda Breath of the Wild costs £53 for my Switch, and delivers some 50-60 hours of quality gameplay, it's hard to justify chucking twice that amount at online slots and not even being guaranteed an evening's playtime.
Couldn’t agree more amazingly I low rolled through £160 at 20p last night on 2 games and never got a bonus. When you consider the recycled crappy wins of x 5 etc that’s a lot of spins and definitely not random.
 
I’ve had a profitable weekend but it’s merely getting back what iv lost but just to say: when I started out slotting I’d maybe put in 50 and start with a bet size of 2. Why? Because I felt and saw the games playing well so it was just the norm. Fast forward ten years or there abouts and that bet size has more than halved, even though deposits have doubled.

The volatility of some of these slots are now taking the piss. I’m also not sure if there is a massive market of people that like these slots. I’m more than content with a reasonable chance of a 1000x or a series of 250x wins tight together, rather than jackpot like frequency of 10000x.

Best summed up when I used to say ‘if bonus comes in next ten spins I’ll pick that feature’ but now say ‘If i get a bonus this weekend I’ll pick...’
 
Christ! I remember Sphinx in the amusement arcades back in 1998-99 time, I recall the centre was jackpot repeater and there was a skill stop sometimes plus a 'nudge timer' feature? This may be answered in the video but I haven't time to watch it right now so sorry if it is!


Electrocoin have actually released a new cabinet with some classic arcade slots from years ago. They have Labyrinth, Tuts N Aspers and Ghost Train.

Labyrinth is excellent, they've been very faithful to the old game, which is good.

Chopley would probably find it entertaining that the cabinet has had a few critical updates to correct some 'development mistakes' on certain games hehe.

Surely you must remember the SKILL CASH feature, it is true skill right up to £40 on the latest version.

Can Imagine Dunover sat in arcade in the 90's moaning about winning a pocket full of tokens :D


Rob
 

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