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Mansion Casino Bonus

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Nifty29, Jul 10, 2007.

    Jul 10, 2007
  1. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

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    Hi Gang

    I was offered a 100% bonus up to $500 to try the new download Mansion Casino (Playtech) as a customer who has played before on the flash version.

    "Great!" I think.

    So I deposit $50 to try it out and transfer the funds to the download casino as instructed, but no bonus appears. The email states the bonus is triggered upon your first transfer, so I contact live help, who responds:

    On making your first fund transfer the bonus will be triggered. Once you have wagered your first fund transfer 40 times on Mansion Download Casino the bonus will be released to your account

    HUH??? I dont remember reading anything about that, except the part in the terms which states:

    To cash out this casino bonus, players must wager 40 times the deposit plus bonus amount.
    (e.g. Deposit of $500/250/375 = Wager of $20,000/10,000/14,000 and get $500/250/375 bonus deposited into your account).


    Now, these terms are very misleading, as it actually says wager 40x deposit and THEN get the 100% Bonus, but the email says:

    Heres how to claim your 100% up to $500...

    dwnload our new MANSION Casino Software
    Log on to Real Play with your existing MANSION Username & Password
    To transfer funds and start playing click on CASHIER and go to the FUND TRANSFER tab
    Select the option to transfer funds from MANSION to MY CASINO and enter the amount you would like to transfer
    Please note your bonus will be triggered on your first fund transfer so to get your maximum 100% deposit youll need to transfer a minimum of $500


    The term 'triggered' gives a very reasonable impression that you will receive the bonus when you transfer the funds. You need to click on the 'terms and conditions' link at the bottom, and THEN click on the casino promotions tab to even get to the actual terms.

    Yes, I should have read the terms word for word first, but the way it is worded right throughout is misleading and I have never come across any other casino that uses this bonus system (especially not playtech)

    Anyway, I withdrew my deposit in protest without any wagering, and uninstalled the casino. Its only $50, so Im sure it doesnt matter to them, but I dont like feeling as if I havent been fairly informed.

    Opinions??

    (P.S. Mansion in the past has been trouble-free, which is why I decided to give the new casino a try)
     
  2. Jul 10, 2007
  3. MPB

    MPB Dormant account

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    I have come across misleading or confusing T&C like this quite often, e.g. at most Wagerworks casinos. Even though I cannot remember having played a non-postwager bonus at a Wagerworks casino, most T&C include a passage like this one at virgin casino:
    "Once you have deposited, we will match the amount up to 50 in bonus funds. These funds are non-withdrawable. To convert the bonus into cash customers must stake an amount equal to ten (10) times their initial deposit. The bonus is converted in full when 100% of the Wagering Requirements are met."
     
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  4. Jul 10, 2007
  5. Amigo

    Amigo Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Sheffield
    Wouldn't have thought they were being deliberatly misleading as they have offered very generous bonuses in the past and, as you say, are considered quite reputable.

    Through reading the terms I can agree though, can't see anywhere where they state that you must wager 40x before its awarded.
     
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  6. Jul 10, 2007
  7. EasyRhino

    EasyRhino Dormant account

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    Location:
    San Diego
    Sounds mislabeled to me too.
     
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  8. Jul 10, 2007
  9. me_and_ed

    me_and_ed Ueber Meister CAG MM

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    Selling out
    Location:
    Vancouver
    I dont know where to find it but there was a thread quite some time ago regarding Mansions bonuses, I thought they were rogued or in the not recommended list.
     
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  10. Jul 10, 2007
  11. happygobrokey

    happygobrokey Dormant account

    Occupation:
    student of life
    Location:
    canada
    if you played there before, you should know this is how it works. when they gave the free bet on the steelers, many people put 1100 USD onto their site for a free chance at a 1000 win. many hedged on it at other sites for a guaranteed profit. i let it ride and steelers eked out a win just over the spread.

    and in making the free bet, everyone doing this triggered a casino deposit bonus that they could play to earn another 1000 in bonus after doing like 200,000 in wagering. admittedly i was a committed follower to some whoring websites at the time and thus maybe had some special knowledge from previous users so i knew what i was in for, but this is how it has always been at mansion.

    and they have had issues, there was a huge thread (20+ pages?) here from a whiner who tried to grind that bonus using keno with sidebets, and when they disallowed usa players he was trying to have them credit an amount of the bonus in the proportion to how much of the wr was complete (even though he would not be able to rollover the bonus once given, for the same reason he can't finish the wr now).

    they finally capitulated and allowed him to finish the wr at poker, where americans were still allowed (and which he could have done all along also) and still this was unacceptable to the player ("i'm not a poker player, so it isn't really fair since i can't win"). but being a regular at 2+2, i contend that he probably is not a keno player either, but rather an advantage player on a quest for free money. and he got burned. stupid american laws. not mansion's fault at all imo. he undertook to play the bonus with huge wr at a slow-ish game like keno, and surely knew the cloud of the uigea loomed near.

    i agree "triggered" is an ambiguous term, and indeed in their earlier days there was even a provision that you had to ask in live chat to "promote" the bonus chips, once given, to the top of your stack. if you did not do this, you could never roll the bonus chips over into cash (as required) without losing all the cash funds first.

    dodgy, arguably. typical mansion though, ever since.
     
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  12. Jul 10, 2007
  13. blankley

    blankley Dormant account

    Occupation:
    self employed
    Location:
    uk
    I have been offered soemthing similar - 100% to 300

    However the terms are a bit different from the original poster -

    'Please note that the following games are excluded from your introductory special bonus: all forms of Roulette, Craps, Pontoon, all forms of Baccarat, Blackjack Switch and Sic Bo. | This offer is only available on MANSION Download Casino games. | Wagering requirements: You must wager your initial fund transfer 50 times before your bonus is released. Any misuse of this bonus will result in your account being closed and bonus funds being withheld '



    So is it released as cash or are there secret wagering requirements after it has been released into my account?

    I think it is not all that it seems.
     
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  14. Jul 10, 2007
  15. Consty1

    Consty1 Dormant account

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    Location:
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    I got the exact same terms but the bonus offered to me is 100% up to $700. Might have a go at this although I've a horrible feeling that it will end up being a sticky.
     
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  16. Jul 10, 2007
  17. happygobrokey

    happygobrokey Dormant account

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    student of life
    Location:
    canada
    when i was dealing with them, it was required to do the wagering to release the bonus, then you have to wager the bonus through one time, the wins (and original wagers therefrom) being given back in cash funds, the losses of course just being that. imagine the bonus chips being valueless, but wins generated from them are paid in cash. you must put all the bonus chips into play to get them out of your account. it's not a sticky. but my wisdom is from last fall so it could well be different, but everything else looks about the same so i'd wager this is still how the bonus money works too.
     
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  18. Jul 11, 2007
  19. dancinggoon

    dancinggoon Dormant account PABnorogue PABrogue PABnononaccred2 PABnoaccred PABaccred

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    ____________

    please note your bonus will be triggered on your first fund transfer so to get your maximum 100% deposit youll need to transfer a minimum of $500

    ________________


    if you would read the terms carefully, you would not have such problems... :cool:

    you need to deposit min. 500$ to trigger the bonus...
     
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  20. Jul 11, 2007
  21. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    Nooo... I think that means to get the maximum.

    "...so to get your maximum 100% deposit youll need to transfer a minimum of $500"

    It seems strange and unclear max/min but "up to" $500 is the operative I think:)
     
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  22. Jul 11, 2007
  23. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    Pennsylvania

    Nope, they're just trying to influence people to deposit $500+ to get the maximum bonus value. $500 isn't the minimum you have to deposit to get any bonus :)
     
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  24. Jul 11, 2007
  25. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

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    Thanks for all the input peeps :)

    I just think they must have sat down together at a meeting and said 'lets make these terms as cloudy and difficult as possible', and then asked Oliver Curran to look them over and add his .02c worth :rolleyes:

    You can see just how silly it all is by the different interpretations from just a handful of posters.

    Anyway, thanks again!
     
  26. Jul 11, 2007
  27. dancinggoon

    dancinggoon Dormant account PABnorogue PABrogue PABnononaccred2 PABnoaccred PABaccred

    Occupation:
    $$$
    Location:
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    I made a deposit of 700$ to mansion and then a transfer to the casino for 700$, at the moment of my transfer to the casino a popupwindowshows up, confirming me that i will recive a 700$ bonus when i compelted the wagering of 35000$


    Here is a nice one from my last session... :thumbsup:
     
  28. Jul 11, 2007
  29. happygobrokey

    happygobrokey Dormant account

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    Location:
    canada
    looks like you're doing okay with that eh...:thumbsup:

    not trying to tell you what to do, but depending how much playthrough you got left, you may wanna shift gears and grind a bit. but then again if you're depositing 700 then you're only at 4x. just don't gobrokey! that blows... :D
     
  30. Jul 17, 2007
  31. MANSION Casino

    MANSION Casino Dormant account

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    Gibraltar
    MANSION 100% Deposit Bonus

    MANSION.com apologises for the confusion regarding the deposit bonus.

    Point 4 in the Terms and Conditions is incorrect and will be changed by our Portal team as soon as possible to:

    o To cash out this casino bonus, players must wager 40 times the deposit amount. (e.g. Deposit of $500/250/375 = Wager of $20,000/10,000/14,000 and get $500/250/375 bonus deposited into your account).

    Regarding the word triggered this could be misleading but we have used it genuinely and have not intended to mislead anyone. The word triggered appears in emails sent to our existing users and not in the T&Cs for our new deposit bonuses.

    MANSION offers a Download Casino (powered by PlayTech), an Instant Games Casino, a Poker Room and an Exchange.

    As a result, players need to transfer funds from the MANSION Cashier to the Download Casino in order to play.

    The 100% deposit bonus (up to $500 or currency equivalent) is dependant on the first transfer from the MANSION Cashier to the Download Casino.

    The bonus amount that each player receives is dependant on this and hence why triggers the bonus. The bonus is then transferred to the players account once the wagering requirements are met.

    Furthermore, once a player transfers an amount to the Download Casino, the player will receive a pop-up in the Download client stating how much he/she has deposited and what are the wagering requirements that are needed to receive the bonus.

    We apologise for any confusion this may have caused and we are if you require further clarification, please feel free to PM me.

    Your feedback is most welcome in order for MANSION.com to succeed and to improve our service to our players :)

    Regards,

    MANSION Casino
     
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  32. Jul 17, 2007
  33. Consty1

    Consty1 Dormant account

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    Despite the terms being a bit confusing for my 100% up to $700 reload, everything was very simple once I deposited. As soon as you make a deposit and transfer to the Casino there's a pop up message stating how much bonus has been triggered and also the wagering requirement. And again once wagering is complete you will see another pop up message telling you that the bonus is now withdrawable. For those who received the reload I'd say it's definately worth doing to try and hit a big score.
     
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  34. Jul 17, 2007
  35. onemoorebaby

    onemoorebaby Dormant account

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    australia
    precisely nifty why i no longer deposit at Mansion.

    I have not once reached the wagering requirements to get the so called bonus.

    To be completely honest I would not of deposited in the first place if I had of been able to work out the stupidly written promotion terms.
     
  36. Jul 17, 2007
  37. MANSION Casino

    MANSION Casino Dormant account

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    I am sorry to hear that onemoorebaby, any suggestions that I should pass on to our Portal team?
     

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