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Lost 29 straight JoB hands

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by blubber, May 24, 2006.

    May 24, 2006
  1. blubber

    blubber Dormant account

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    At Monte Casino which uses B3W software, I played 20 hands and lost them all. Logged on the next day and played 9 more. Lost them all. I won my 30th with a high pair.
    According to my calculations the odds of losing 29 in a row are about 1/33million.
    Anyone have experience with this site or software?
     
  2. May 24, 2006
  3. Slotster!

    Slotster! I predict a riot. CAG

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    I'm sure this could happen in theory - but I'd check out the 'English Harbour' thread over in the other forum... Showed everything that was great about this board, when a few players were able to test out - and quickly get a good sample size. Not familiar with this casino or software... Post up the details and I'm sure a few people will have a go!
     
  4. May 24, 2006
  5. blubber

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    Which details? I didn't use the double up feature like the English Harbour guys.
     
  6. May 25, 2006
  7. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Bent Game

    There was an earlier thread on this. The software is "bent" in that the game is NOT Video Poker at all but is actually a weighted slot machine with 5 cards instead of 5 reels. 20 to 30 losing spins on a slot is not uncommon, but the deception lies in the fact that the paytable does not give a guide to the house edge.
    I tried this software in fun mode after reading the other thread, and it looked "bent" to me too!
     
  8. May 25, 2006
  9. largeeyes

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    Slotland VP all over again?
     
  10. May 25, 2006
  11. blubber

    blubber Dormant account

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    Do you know where that thread is? Terrible. So I win with the frequency of a slot machine but get paid like JoB? The game is actually named Jacks or Better Original. This is very deceptive and I wonder why B3W software isn't rogued. Are there any good B3W games?

    Here's the game description for "Jacks or Better Original" from their site:
    Jacks or Better

    THE GAME
    Draw poker is an extremely popular game.
    Monte Casino has created its Jacks or Better Video Poker game with genuine video poker graphics and sounds.
    Your total wager determines the payout amount.

    HOW TO PLAY
    Choose the amount you wish to wager by clicking on the Monte Casino coin of your choice.
    Please check that you have credit in the middle right of the Video Poker Machine.
    Then, press the DEAL button to receive your cards.
    Then, click on the cards you wish to hold.
    When you press DRAW, you will receive new cards in the positions of the cards that were not held.
    To exit the Draw Poker game and return to the main menu, you must play out the hand you have been dealt and then click on the "Exit" button.


    WINNING COMBINATIONS
    Royal Flush
    Ten, Jack, Queen, King, and Ace of one suit
    Straight Flush
    Five cards with sequential ranks and the same suit
    4 of a kind
    Four cards of the same rank
    Full House
    Three cards of one rank and an additional pair of a different rank
    Flush
    Five cards of the same suit
    Straight
    Five cards with sequential ranks of any suit
    3 of a kind
    Any three cards of the same rank
    Two Pairs
    Any two pairs
    Pair
    A pair of Jacks or better
     
    Last edited: May 25, 2006
  12. May 25, 2006
  13. tennis_balls

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  14. May 25, 2006
  15. blubber

    blubber Dormant account

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    Thanks, that explains it. Nobody thinks they should be rogued for deception?
     
  16. May 25, 2006
  17. nielsenj

    nielsenj Dormant account webmeister

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    I have also played for real money at a casino with B3W software. About a year ago I lost my deposit at lightning speed at Aero Player playing Jacks Or Better Video Poker. I have played at hundreds of casinos over the last 5-6 years and only at a few I have had clear feeling that I was not offered a fair game. That was the feeling it got playing with B3W software.
     
  18. May 25, 2006
  19. Vesuvio

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    If they're not rogued already I think they should be rogued without a second thought. It's a no-brainer, as our cousins over the pond say :D
     
  20. May 27, 2006
  21. blubber

    blubber Dormant account

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    Dear Blubber,

    What makes you think that our video poker is a slot machine ?
    I can guarantee you that our video poker has nothing to do with the Slotland video poker software issue.
    We are in contact with B3W, which is the software designer, we have asked them to check the Jacks or Better statistics and your games history details.
    As soon as we get the results of their investigation, I will provide you a fully detailed answer.

    Regards,

    Philippe THOMAS



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    Blubber wrote:
    > Hello, I sent you an email but did not receive a reply. I played your
    > JoB game and was destroyed! I lost 29 hands in a row. That's outrageous.
    > What's the problem with your game? I heard that it's actually a slot
    > machine, not a Video Poker game at all. Why didn't you state that on
    > your site?
     
  22. May 27, 2006
  23. Linus

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    Blubber, if they have a slot machine masquerading as VP, they should be rogued.

    Like Vesuvio said, it's a no-brainer.
     
  24. May 28, 2006
  25. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    29

    I am sure they will reply that 29 hands is too small a sample to make a case.
    I tried the fun mode, and it seemed just as crappy as the real mode. Unfortunately, VP requires a large sample to work out the percentage, but a smaller sample should determine the fairness at the pair and 2 pair level, as without a fair start, the higher hands cannot be won as easily either.
     

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