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last night on dead or alive

The game is playing not too bad for me. Details of the most recent session below. Could have cashed out at some time but kept playing for the bigger win. Feature every 127.9 spins on average with at one time having 4 features during 100 spins:

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Another session and things are not any better. Features are more scarce and the machine is not playing ball so to speak. On this occasion there was a bonus round every 200.4 spins on average though they didn't pay a lot.

I guess it is the features that keeps you playing this game. Every time that feature triggers, you are left wondering whether this is going to be the one!

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Think I am going to give this game a break for a while after yet another session that was rather short but not so sweet. Bonus round every 226 spins with at some point a wait of at least 500 spins before it triggered.

I am still well up on this slot after some big wins and I noticed a double wild line win in the winner screenshots section, so my conclusion is that this slot doesn't like me. Perhaps after a period of absence it may welcome me back with a decent win again.

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Good idea....one suggestion though - it might be helpful to add a "Session RTP" column to your spreadsheet.....IMO, it would come in handy for comparisons sake down the road...

edit: ooops, I see that you keep a running overall RTP going...What I do is keep both that, as well as a per100/RTP, so I can see how each block of 100 spins treats me...if I notice a super low RTP that lasts 2 blocks of 100 spins, I move to a different slot...

Think I am going to give this game a break for a while after yet another session that was rather short but not so sweet. Bonus round every 226 spins with at some point a wait of at least 500 spins before it triggered.

I am still well up on this slot after some big wins and I noticed a double wild line win in the winner screenshots section, so my conclusion is that this slot doesn't like me. Perhaps after a period of absence it may welcome me back with a decent win again.

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"Invested" £8 won in the videoslots race into Dead or Alive at £0.09 a spin. Got up to just under £13 but busted out.

Must have had at least 600 spins and during all of those spins not a single bonus round.

Whilst last night I couldn't get the bonus rounds fast enough, this time round the game was taking the proverbial out of it.
 
"Invested" £8 won in the videoslots race into Dead or Alive at £0.09 a spin. Got up to just under £13 but busted out.

Must have had at least 600 spins and during all of those spins not a single bonus round.

Whilst last night I couldn't get the bonus rounds fast enough, this time round the game was taking the proverbial out of it.


Thing is, you can get dozens of bonus rounds paying little more than the trigger value in a session and another session where you only get one or two bonuses in hundreds of spins but they pay hundreds or thousands of times stake.
 
Dont think Doa likes me any more :(. last week been paying very poor and today my worst day £140 down.

tryed 4 sites as i reached deposit limit on 2 of them

First site
£20 playing 9p a spin 1 feature (4 scatters) won £2.37

2nd site (had money in account)
£25 playing 9p ago no feature

3rd site
€20 2 features ( both 3 scatters) €1.97 and €0.90
first feature took over 300 spins

£95 had in account on another site
played £20 on agent blonde 1 feature €0.36

jumped on DOA first €30 one feature playing at €0.18 a go payed €1.88

change to €0.09 € 30 euros to get 1 feature payed €0.64
played the rest of the money had 3 more features which payed €1.18 € 0.52 € 2.28

wouldnt mind so much if i had some good game time but money went so quick, plus i counted only 6x 5 of a kind in all my games above 2x j's 1x k's 2 whisky glasses and 1x boot.

think its time to give DOA a break for a bit
 
Dont think Doa likes me any more :(. last week been paying very poor and today my worst day £140 down.

tryed 4 sites as i reached deposit limit on 2 of them

First site
£20 playing 9p a spin 1 feature (4 scatters) won £2.37

2nd site (had money in account)
£25 playing 9p ago no feature

3rd site
€20 2 features ( both 3 scatters) €1.97 and €0.90
first feature took over 300 spins

£95 had in account on another site
played £20 on agent blonde 1 feature €0.36

jumped on DOA first €30 one feature playing at €0.18 a go payed €1.88

change to €0.09 € 30 euros to get 1 feature payed €0.64
played the rest of the money had 3 more features which payed €1.18 € 0.52 € 2.28

wouldnt mind so much if i had some good game time but money went so quick, plus i counted only 6x 5 of a kind in all my games above 2x j's 1x k's 2 whisky glasses and 1x boot.

think its time to give DOA a break for a bit

You are not alone, i'm down 500 just this week but hopefully we'll all catch up, 8 different sites, 2-4 deposits each ranging from 20-50 since wednesday and can't change my luck
 
There one brand of casino which I played yesterday has so many dead spins on this game it was getting silly I had to log off lol

I tried some other casino's and seem to have better luck with this game nothing massive in win but at least some free rounds. I was only spinning up to 45 pence . I scared to spin any more on this game as the free rounds are so rare at times .
 
There one brand of casino which I played yesterday has so many dead spins on this game it was getting silly I had to log off lol

I tried some other casino's and seem to have better luck with this game nothing massive in win but at least some free rounds. I was only spinning up to 45 pence . I scared to spin any more on this game as the free rounds are so rare at times .

45p a go i would be skint in a hr :) ill stick to my 9p other wise my monthly gambling budget will be gone in a day.

good luck on your doa spins hope the wild lines come soon for you.
 
You are not alone, i'm down 500 just this week but hopefully we'll all catch up, 8 different sites, 2-4 deposits each ranging from 20-50 since wednesday and can't change my luck

I wouldn't have thought it was possible to have such bad luck on so many different sites playing the same game you would think at least one would be in a good mood. The only thing I hate about playing so many different sites is I wonder if I stayed on just one would I have won and got past my bad luck :rolleyes:.

hope your luck changes soon
 
I wouldn't have thought it was possible to have such bad luck on so many different sites playing the same game you would think at least one would be in a good mood. The only thing I hate about playing so many different sites is I wonder if I stayed on just one would I have won and got past my bad luck :rolleyes:.

hope your luck changes soon

trust me if its not gonna give it wont, since yesterday i had 4 sessions at whitebet(whitelabel of redbet), start balance 100 busted within 500 rounds 0.36 bet with one bonus round paying 0.32. Than later starting balance 75 with bets ranging 0.27-0.45 and busted out in 800 spins(also had 30 quid win from raging rhino that i lost to doa again, 3rd one starting balance 41 quid and few bonus rounds but balance never went above 42. Best hit in any of these sessions was 5 hats in base game

These sessions arent after some massive win, its been going like this at few of my regular for 2 months(casumo, videoslots, betspin(atlst had 700x), verajohn, betsafe,) worst thing is all these casinos never really offer bonuses

Only casino that has been super to me is thrills

last 3 deposits b4 today 1 wildline, 2 wins of x500, and a 4-5 100x-200x, today 30 staarting balance and bets of 0.18-0.27 lasted me 2100 spins as well

So this just shos if its gonna give it will, if itss gonna be sh*t it will be worser than any other slot
 
trust me if its not gonna give it wont, since yesterday i had 4 sessions at whitebet(whitelabel of redbet), start balance 100 busted within 500 rounds 0.36 bet with one bonus round paying 0.32. Than later starting balance 75 with bets ranging 0.27-0.45 and busted out in 800 spins(also had 30 quid win from raging rhino that i lost to doa again, 3rd one starting balance 41 quid and few bonus rounds but balance never went above 42. Best hit in any of these sessions was 5 hats in base game

These sessions arent after some massive win, its been going like this at few of my regular for 2 months(casumo, videoslots, betspin(atlst had 700x), verajohn, betsafe,) worst thing is all these casinos never really offer bonuses

Only casino that has been super to me is thrills

last 3 deposits b4 today 1 wildline, 2 wins of x500, and a 4-5 100x-200x, today 30 starting balance and bets of 0.18-0.27 lasted me 2100 spins as well

So this just shows if its gonna give it will, if its gonna be sh*t it will be worser than any other slot

It also proves the idea that the games are same RTP every spin with same chance of winning is complete and utter BS. Certainly with this game.
No game proves better than this slot.
I've put hundreds through it this month low balling and not hit a bonus round of 100x bet.
My last 11 consecutive bonus rounds haven't even got close to x10 bet and barely seena sticky wild - if I do it is on reel 4 or 5 and affects nothing.
I've seen the sticky wild land on the front reel once in over 50 rounds.

The main game the scatters just disappear for hundred or so spins at a time, you just don't see it on reel 1 and 2 especially.
Considering how few symbols there are the lack of 5OAKS is ridiculous and it is impossible to even hold you own for any time on the main game so it is win on free spins or bust.

It is very high variance but sometimes it is set not to pay full stop. You could play forever and not hit the sticky wilds and get < x10 bet 9/10 times with the rest paying average wins.
The other thing is it is casino wide so they must set it on the NetEnt servers.
I reckon I am getting about 75% RTP if I'm lucky off thousands of spins and I'm about 400 euro down on it in the last month playing between 27c and 54c bets.

It is an incredibly frustrating slot but it has that hook as well because when it wants to throw the sticky wilds in you hit big.
Pity you have to get slaughtered endlessly first just in the hope of seeing it! :o
Definitely have a love/hate with it
 
It also proves the idea that the games are same RTP every spin with same chance of winning is complete and utter BS. Certainly with this game.
No game proves better than this slot.
I've put hundreds through it this month low balling and not hit a bonus round of 100x bet.
My last 11 consecutive bonus rounds haven't even got close to x10 bet and barely seena sticky wild - if I do it is on reel 4 or 5 and affects nothing.
I've seen the sticky wild land on the front reel once in over 50 rounds.

The main game the scatters just disappear for hundred or so spins at a time, you just don't see it on reel 1 and 2 especially.
Considering how few symbols there are the lack of 5OAKS is ridiculous and it is impossible to even hold you own for any time on the main game so it is win on free spins or bust.

It is very high variance but sometimes it is set not to pay full stop. You could play forever and not hit the sticky wilds and get < x10 bet 9/10 times with the rest paying average wins.
The other thing is it is casino wide so they must set it on the NetEnt servers.
I reckon I am getting about 75% RTP if I'm lucky off thousands of spins and I'm about 400 euro down on it in the last month playing between 27c and 54c bets.

It is an incredibly frustrating slot but it has that hook as well because when it wants to throw the sticky wilds in you hit big.
Pity you have to get slaughtered endlessly first just in the hope of seeing it! :o
Definitely have a love/hate with it

Im down about 2000 this month lol, my last 30 quid i decided to up my bet to 0.45p as had terrible 3 days, i got 45 consecutive dead spins than 2 scatters and than 24 more dead spins(absolutely dead, not even 3oak 10's or j's)

I have done literally more thn 40000 spins at 8 different casino since thrills gave me a wildline, not including casinos where i have done less than 20,000 as on average u should hit wildline every 20,000,
 
Im down about 2000 this month lol, my last 30 quid i decided to up my bet to 0.45p as had terrible 3 days, i got 45 consecutive dead spins than 2 scatters and than 24 more dead spins(absolutely dead, not even 3oak 10's or j's)

I have done literally more thn 40000 spins at 8 different casino since thrills gave me a wildline, not including casinos where i have done less than 20,000 as on average u should hit wildline every 20,000,

You have my sympathy but I guess we know how it plays and the choice is ours?

That is the thing though, when it is dead it is dead and it is very clearly a different RTP version of the slot when you can actually hit wins here and there and get some sticky wilds on the free spins. That isn't really fair even if ultimately the slot does have a 96% RTP or whatever.
I've noticed this to a lesser extent in all slots - when they're cold they're cold and I've tested that often enough throwing money at a dead slot and getting the same crazy low RTP endlessly but Dead or Alive seems tot ake it to a whole new level of pain :D
Well slots players are obviously a masochistic bunch and I'll play it until it pays me damn it!
 
i got robbed.. £180 at 0.36 a spin
is this normal for that slot to go soo long without a significant win?

its alot of spins and the hope for a wildline spurred me on to keep going.
every feature was poor

It is normal - I've been playing this slot for since launch and once won over 2k (it does seem like a distant memory now) - I had just dropped from €2.70 to a 90cent spin as I only had 2 euros left in my account. If I'd have got the win before the spin before I would have won closer to 10k!

I've more than likely spent well over 2k chasing the same win again with no luck. With any highly volatile game your going caught with your pants down on a regular basis but I have to say it's been a couple of years since the above win and I'm certainly due something soon!
 
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I thought I'd have a punt but it's looking less than favourable 56% RTP!

A bit more than cold... perhaps it's about to swing massive the other way though
 
I thought I'd have a punt but it's looking less than favourable 56% RTP!

A bit more than cold... perhaps it's about to swing massive the other way though

I don't take any notice of these "cold" or "hot" indicators. By your argument you may as well spend £1,000 on Hot as Hades to get a £1,200 return because that slot is listed as a 120% RTP!

If these slots are true random, it doesn't matter what the previous spins paid or didn't pay the player.

What for me is more worrying is that I read on another post here in the forum, that a casino has the option to change the RTP ( see here: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/sites-displaying-up-to-date-rtp.68302/?t=68302 ):

A lot of slots have a theoretical RTP buried in the 'Game Rules' pages, but some casinos do have the ability to adjust these slightly, depending on their agreement with the developer.

Not sure if that is possible with this slot, but if a casino I play at is adjusting the game's RTP to make it more favourable for them, I would be royally peed off with them!
 
I think the RTP can be changed certainly but it may well be that Net Ent set it and it applies globally across casinos that have the slot.
Given that I have played different casinos with the same results and many others have stated the same experience that seems likely.

I just got my stats for this month so far at one casino and I am 500 euro down with 76% RTP (I guessed 75% so that was pretty good guess) with over 5000 spins. Multiply that with other accounts and it is fair to see that is one ice cold slot!

If it ever changes and I hit something worthwhile I'll be sure to post here but I reckon that even if the game is restored to a much higher RTP setting you will still need some luck to hit any big wins but we should get some game time at least. :o

I hereby rename this slot, "Dead Or Very Dead" :p
 
I have no idea whether Netent would change the RTP on a slot to make it pay better or worse. Surely, the reels and win table are designed in such a way that no further tinkering is required to make a return on the slot?

What I can't get my head round all of this RTP malarkey is how the slot takes into account the amount wagered. Giving a 1,000 x return on a £0.09 spin is going to be totally different to a 1,000 x return on a £18 spin in terms of money going out of the coffers.

If a slot really doesn't care about the amount wagered (i.e. it predetermines the amount won in terms of times stake at the press of the button), a slot could be a big loss maker if the big wins only go to the higher stakes and the low wins to the smaller stakes. Not sure how that is factored in the RTP calculations.
 
Well had another session, couple of thousand spins.
It played better for a while (relatively) and I got ahead on my deposit but still can't hit anything on bonus although got a couple that kept me in the game.
What sums this slot up is I finally got sticky wild 1st reel on the very first free spin and didn't hit x10 bet in total!!! :eek:
Not sure how that is possible but after that bonus round it shut down completely and I didn't see scatter on rell 1 for around 200 spins and it ook be about another 600 to trigger free spins again where I hat jack all of course.
My RTP on last 700+ spins must have been about 50% until bust, crazy and not very random. :sob:
 
I've played this slot to death over the last couple of years. I've gone through periods of doing the math, following the rtp, varying the stakes, doing a rain dance, all of it.
The first requirement to playing DOA in my view is the right mindset in terms of the entertainment factor. The base game is certainly not everyone's cup of tea, some will declare it outright boring, if you're looking for all singing all dancing slot activity, this won't appeal.
The second requirement is easy in the first part, the expectation of the potential of the bonus round - after countless bonus rounds, I still feel a tingle when it triggers that this could be the big round of thousands x stake. The second part is harder to achieve - the ability to shrug off countless bonus rounds of little to no value. If these rounds make your hackles rise, then this game really isn't for you.
With all that said, I've experienced the frustration of 100's of bonus rounds with little or no value and convinced myself I'm due that big round.
These days, and I have to say it's taken all this experience to get to this point, I can shrug off an individual losing session or an extended period of months of losing sessions with no great return easily. I understand the game for what it is, and how remote the big pays are on it.
It will still remain one of my firm favourites.
 
I've played this slot to death over the last couple of years. I've gone through periods of doing the math, following the rtp, varying the stakes, doing a rain dance, all of it.
The first requirement to playing DOA in my view is the right mindset in terms of the entertainment factor. The base game is certainly not everyone's cup of tea, some will declare it outright boring, if you're looking for all singing all dancing slot activity, this won't appeal.
The second requirement is easy in the first part, the expectation of the potential of the bonus round - after countless bonus rounds, I still feel a tingle when it triggers that this could be the big round of thousands x stake. The second part is harder to achieve - the ability to shrug off countless bonus rounds of little to no value. If these rounds make your hackles rise, then this game really isn't for you.
With all that said, I've experienced the frustration of 100's of bonus rounds with little or no value and convinced myself I'm due that big round.
These days, and I have to say it's taken all this experience to get to this point, I can shrug off an individual losing session or an extended period of months of losing sessions with no great return easily. I understand the game for what it is, and how remote the big pays are on it.
It will still remain one of my firm favourites.

Excellent post/ :thumbsup:
 
I don't take any notice of these "cold" or "hot" indicators. By your argument you may as well spend £1,000 on Hot as Hades to get a £1,200 return because that slot is listed as a 120% RTP!

If these slots are true random, it doesn't matter what the previous spins paid or didn't pay the player.

What for me is more worrying is that I read on another post here in the forum, that a casino has the option to change the RTP ( see here: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/sites-displaying-up-to-date-rtp.68302/?t=68302 ):

Not sure if that is possible with this slot, but if a casino I play at is adjusting the game's RTP to make it more favourable for them, I would be royally peed off with them!

I'm not sure if that still goes on with Sky, Betfair, Mr Green to name a few as they are specify the same RTP on the same games. This might have happened in the past and possibly does still happen with some unregulated operations! I'm not sure if would be possible with NetEnt games but they seem to be the same RTP on these sites too, as well as my current favourtie slot, GOLD.
 
i hit new record mabye

Over 1200 spins no feature at casumo that the most ever spins without one ive had a few 500 and 600 spins but never over that whats you guys worst
 
The way its going lately it defo is always the way lol

Been playing this game non stop for about 3-weeks now and think ive only managed the 5 extra free spins twice as hardly any wilds were coming when i did get the feature, but Ive had a couple of close ones the last 2 days tho where ive waited on it coming on 1 reel for 4-5 spins but again never come, and constant doubling up on the reels also.

Either last weekend or weekend before i managed 35 features on 9p a spin that was taking anything between 180-1500 spins lol mainly 500-600 spins then would bring 3-4 close by and the highest i got was £10.00

Hope everyones luck changes soon tho :-)
 
Not sure which is worse ... IR or DOA

They both sucked my bankroll. I got to the point that I just wanted to bust out. I accomplished that. I honestly think IR is worse -- I had much more play time on DOA. These games are definitely off my play list.
 
They both sucked my bankroll. I got to the point that I just wanted to bust out. I accomplished that. I honestly think IR is worse -- I had much more play time on DOA. These games are definitely off my play list.

Somehow they always creep in tho ;)...one big win and they are back like the terminator
 
Just had my second 5 scatter this weekend. This one at Casino Luck.

Didn't get a screenshot unlike my last one.

Quite handy since I unusually (for me) took a deposit bonus.

Got £280 wagering and £270 balance.
 
Thought I give this slot another try.

Rather than deposit big and spin at my usual £0.45, I used a smaller deposit of £25 and started off with £0.18 spins. The balance quickly went down to £12 when I lowered the bet to £0.09 a spin.

The minute I lowered my bet, it was like playing another machine. the £12 lasted 3 hours with a large number of bonus rounds (proportionally coming in more frequently than usual). At some point the balance went up to £20!

Anybody else notice this? I noticed in the screen shot section of the forum, that those that play £0.09 bets get the wild lines quite frequently (other than Rolastan!)
 
Thought I give this slot another try.

Rather than deposit big and spin at my usual £0.45, I used a smaller deposit of £25 and started off with £0.18 spins. The balance quickly went down to £12 when I lowered the bet to £0.09 a spin.

The minute I lowered my bet, it was like playing another machine. the £12 lasted 3 hours with a large number of bonus rounds (proportionally coming in more frequently than usual). At some point the balance went up to £20!

Anybody else notice this? I noticed in the screen shot section of the forum, that those that play £0.09 bets get the wild lines quite frequently (other than Rolastan!)

Yeah, I've notice a difference when playing different stakes.
I've played at 18p (2p coin) and everything is running smooth and getting a few wins.
Then when I change to 45p (5p coin) and it goes cold. But more importantly, there's a slight lag. Change back to 2p and everything's smooth again.
It's like I've changed to a completely different game.
 
Thought I give this slot another try.

Rather than deposit big and spin at my usual £0.45, I used a smaller deposit of £25 and started off with £0.18 spins. The balance quickly went down to £12 when I lowered the bet to £0.09 a spin.

The minute I lowered my bet, it was like playing another machine. the £12 lasted 3 hours with a large number of bonus rounds (proportionally coming in more frequently than usual). At some point the balance went up to £20!

Anybody else notice this? I noticed in the screen shot section of the forum, that those that play £0.09 bets get the wild lines quite frequently (other than Rolastan!)

Just luck I'm afraid!

Last 3-4 weeks all at 9p bets and very poor bonus rounds, that's if I get one at all!
 
Just luck I'm afraid!

Last 3-4 weeks all at 9p bets and very poor bonus rounds, that's if I get one at all!

The bonus rounds I got were poor. Max was 50 x stake. It was the base game that kept me going.

Tried it again, this time at Casumo. Had 20 free spins on Starburst and won €2.xx on it. So started to play DOA at €0.09 a spin and that €2 something lasted me 2.5 hours! At some point got to over €18 but was still within wagering to clear the win on the free spins so couldn't cash out. By the time I cleared wagering I never got over €10 which is the minimum amount you can withdraw at the Casino.

Never had so many bonus rounds - they were given to me like confetti. Also had more than usual 5 line wins.

Co-incidence? Perhaps.

I don't mind this slot playing like that. 2.5 hours game play for a couple of € (which were free to start off with) is good value for money!
 

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