Kentucky seeking to seize 141 gaming domains

[alfred666]

According to point-spreads.com it looks like Kentucky is trying to go after 141 (partially high profile) domain names ...

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The only other reference about this available on the net so far is

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Some good news for the internet gambling industry, it turns out that 1st Technology suffered a major defeat in court recently. Point-Spreads.com has obtained a letter from the United States Patent & Trademark Office that dismisses 1st Technology's request to vacate a re-examination request of U.S. Patent No. 5,564,001. A copy of the USPTO ruling can be found here. Apparently the USPTO felt the declaration of Scott W. Lewis was improper and it will be expunged from the official file which is currently under review for the validity of the method patent in the first place.

So what does that mean? While it does not get Bodog back their domain names, 1st Technology cannot use the method patent to extort money from other internet gambling companies while the validity of the method patent is under review by the USPTO.

By using the US legal system to secure "royalty/licensing" payments for their method patent, 1st Technology has really been a major cause of damage to beleaguered internet gambling industry over the last several years. 1st Technology has used U.S. Patent No. 5,564,001 to obtain "royalty/licensing" payments from various gaming operators that were not in a position to fight the attacks. While this is great news for operators currently being attacked by 1st Technology, it will not help Bodog get their domain portfolio back.

This latest ruling by the United States Patent & Trademark Office brings the 1st Technology method patent one step closer to being overturned.

While this is great to hear, its not over yet. Point-Spreads.com has also learned that the state of Kentucky has been monitoring the way 1st Technology was able to successfully grab the Bodog domain names and has put a plan in motion to seize other gambling operators domain names. Here is a copy of the motion to seize domain names filed by the State of Kentucky this past Friday.

Internet gambling operators using United States based registrars to hold their domain name portfolios better look into transferring those domain names to a registrar in jurisdiction that licenses gaming companies fast. It is unknown at this time if Kentucky will be successful in its attempts to seize the domain names. Point-Spreads.com will continue to monitor this story as it unfolds.
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[RobWin]

Interesting...seems they have managed to list most all of the MG and RTG casinos, did notice though that 3Dice was not on that list, curious if 3Dice has registered theirs under another jurisdiction...other than a United States based registrar...

 

[Mousey]

Oh, for craps sake....

Intimidate, coerce, extort... Wonder what wiz at the DOJ helped think this one up?

This looks more like harassment than anything. What's the point? Just to make things a little harder for the casinos? Isn't that harassment?

1. to disturb persistently; torment, as with troubles or cares; bother continually; pester; persecute.
2. to trouble by repeated attacks, incursions, etc., as in war or hostilities; harry; raid

 

[Mousey]

Ky. governor seeking to block online gambling

Associated Press

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By JOE BIESK 09.23.08, 7:39 AM ET

FRANKFORT, Ky. - Kentucky's pro-gambling governor is looking to make sure all bets are off for more than 140 online gambling Web sites that operate in the state known for the world's biggest horse race.

Gov. Steve Beshear said his administration has asked a Franklin County Circuit Court judge to give the state control of 141 gambling Web site domain names. Beshear said he's looking to restrict Kentuckians' access to Web sites with names that include some of the most popular gambling sites for U.S. players: bodoglife.com, doylesroom.com and fulltiltpoker.com.

A hearing is scheduled for Thursday before Judge Thomas Wingate.

Beshear believes Kentucky....

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And another...

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Suit seeks to block use of illegal sites
By Stephenie Steitzer

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But David Stewart, a Washington, D.C., attorney who is an expert in gambling law, doubted that Beshear's strategy will work.

"This is -- forgive me for being blunt -- a stunt," Stewart said...

 

[Elgoog]

Here is the complete list of domains they are attempting to seize:

 

[AussieDave]

Well boys and girls I just got word that a ruling has been handed down and the 141 .com domains are to be forfeited.

It's a sad day when things have to come to this extent.

(romove FFF to view story)
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I guess chasing drug dealers; child porn rackets and the 101 other things that are far worse...is not a big issue

 

[winbig]

Well boys and girls I just got word that a ruling has been handed down and the 141 .com domains are to be forfeited.

It's a sad day when things have to come to this extent.

(romove FFF to view story)
FFFhttp://www.pokerpages.com/poker-news/news/kentucky-usa-court-orders-seizure-of-141-poker-gambling-domain-names--31137.htm

I guess chasing drug dealers; child porn rackets and the 101 other things that are far worse...is not a big issue

Oh, it's far from over. I'm going to laugh when this gets overturned and Kentucky has to pay some sort of restitution.

 

[ahtram88]

Hello All-

I was wondering if anyone here knows anything about this:

I received an urgent email from Star Partners saying:

URGENT NOTICE

Due to the Kentucky Court ruling on the seizure of online gaming domains we have had to take urgent steps to our websites domains.

The following domains were affected by the courts ruling:
We have brought the following domains online to replace the .com variant in the interim until we gain clarity on the situation.

Crazyvegascasino.com>>>>>>>>>Crazyvegascasino.co.uk
Crazypoker.com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Crazypoker.co.uk
Casinous.com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Casinous.co.uk
Maplecasino.com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Maplecasino.ca
Sunvegas.com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sunvegas.co.uk
777dragon.com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>777dragon.co.uk
Rivernilecasino.com>>>>>>>>>>>Rivernilecasino.net[/B]

All I have found so far was this:

Kentucky seeking to seize 141 gaming domains

Date: September 23, 2008
By: Marylou

The governor of Kentucky is seeking to block residents from accessing 141 online gaming sites which include Full Tilt, Doyles Room and Bodog. The hearing has been set for this Thursday.

Steve Beshear, Governor of the Commonwealth of Kentucky, is determined to protect the states horse racing industry at all costs and to rid Kentucky of internet gambling, both poker and casinos, which he describes as leeches on a recent press conference: Unlike casinos that operate on land or on riverboats in the United States, these operations pay no tax revenues, provide no jobs and yield no tourism benefits. They are leeches on our communities.

The Kentucky lottery and horse racing industry generate millions upon millions of taxable dollars the Kentucky lottery alone generated sales for $778 million in the fiscal year 2008. Beshear is determined that none of those dollars get diverted to poker or casinos, especially those outside of the state. The Associated Press reported: Beshear said Kentuckians are likely spend tens of millions of dollars on illegal Internet gambling sites each year money that might otherwise go to Kentuckys horse tracks, charitable events and the state lottery.

Judge Thomas Wingate will preside over the Thursday hearing, when he is expected to decide the fate of these domains. If Beshear gets his way, all 141 domains will be blocked to Kentucky residents.

Below is a list of the endangered sites as reported by the Gaming Intelligence Group. We will feature more on this issue as soon as there are new developments.

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Quite a few of the ones i play at :O lol

 

[Jackpot Factory]

Reply from David Brickman at the Jackpot Factory

Hi everyone.

David Brickman here, from the Jackpot Factory Group.

From what weve heard & read in the news, the Governor of Kentucky, Steve Beshear, has decided to try and freeze the domains of online casinos in an effort to drive them out. This is a fairly aggressive and zealous move which will set a precedent for the internet. Most operators are already moving their operations over to either a UK or EU domain.

IF the sites suddenly stop functioning players will be unable to access their current version of software including the flash casinos. They will need to re-download from a new domain provided by the casino. There is no reason to re-download now since Microgaming still has to provide operators with new software. MGS is making all necessary preparations to deal with this issue.

Not more than 30 minutes ago, I heard from MGS insiders that they are fairly confident this ruling will be reversed in a hearing set for tomorrow.

I will do my best to regularly post news & updates as well as field any questions but please be patient since were all kind of busy here.

You can also get updates on my blog:

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All the best,

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[lots0]

I don't see how this will stand. Some of those named are legitimate business in their own countries.

Now maybe the Kentucky Governor should follow the Chinese or Saudi governments and just start blocking all the websites he doesn't like... He could start by banning the websites that criticize him for this stupid waste of the tax payers money.... Then he could end up banning his competitors websites because they support online gambling...

Haven't we had enough, of these religious freaks in politics trying to FORCE us to live the way they want? What the hell ever happened to the RIGHT to pursue Happiness or the RIGHT to live and believe the way you choose?

 

[Webzcas]

Excuse my language but this is an absolute crock of shit. What is it with the US??!!!

 

[winbig]

Excuse my language but this is an absolute crock of shit. What is it with the US??!!!

Could you use a roomate? I don't take up much space and don't eat that much......!

...err, or is it a flat-mate over there?

 

[classymom]

Excuse my language but this is an absolute crock of shit. What is it with the US??!!!

My sentiments exactly

 

[lots0]

You can always let the Democratic Governor of Kentucky, Steve Beshear (son of a Baptists Minister) know how you feel about this.

Here is his contact form.
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I sent him a email telling him just what I thought of him and his actions... He is acting completely UN-American.

 

[anniemac]

As a Texan, so far our gov. hasn't decided to play King yet. And I really don't think he has the balls to try it.

However, if someone can tell me what we can do to stop this crap, I would appreciate it. It doesn't matter whether we vote or not, we will get the pres. that the electorial college votes on, just as the democrats got the presidential candidate that the super delegates and old guard wanted. We, as Americans, have lost all of our rights that were guaranteed by the Constitution. They have slowly been removed by our governing body and sooner than later, we are going to be just like some of the other nations where the general populace have absolutely no say in the government.

I vote, I write letters for what it is worth. It doesn't matter. What has happened to a government by the people, for the people?

 

[me_and_ed]

It truly amazes me how bending of the freedom charter and law changes happen in the U.S to suit the means, I love the "leeches" term that was used ,gambling is gambling, it is all lecherous. If I am not happy with a store due to service or lack of quality product I go somewhere else, it would be against the so called law to shut down the competition, but not with online gaming. Not so much the land of the free anymore!!

 

[Webzcas]

Un - American?

I don't know about that. Only last week I saw a poster on the Yuku/EZBoard network get reported to the FBI - He had been globally banned from their network and subsequently signed up new accounts. Which peed off the Yuku helpdesk somewhat.

It seems since the inception of the Patriot Act, more and more freedoms which US Citizens have been used to enjoying are slowly being eroded.

 

[winbig]

Un - American?

I don't know about that. Only last week I saw a poster on the Yuku/EZBoard network get reported to the FBI - He had been globally banned from their network and subsequently signed up new accounts. Which peed off the Yuku helpdesk somewhat.

It seems since the inception of the Patriot Act, more and more freedoms which US Citizens have been used to enjoying are slowly being eroded.

Yes, it's pretty scary. Right now, you could go call the FBI (or better yet, Homeland Security) and tell them you think someone's a terrorist and they will make that person's life a living hell. I doubt they'd even ask for any proof.

Patriot Act = Guilty until proven innocent.

 

[SierraDawn]

I don't see how this will stand. Some of those named are legitimate business in their own countries.

Now maybe the Kentucky Governor should follow the Chinese or Saudi governments and just start blocking all the websites he doesn't like... He could start by banning the websites that criticize him for this stupid waste of the tax payers money.... Then he could end up banning his competitors websites because they support online gambling...

Haven't we had enough, of these religious freaks in politics trying to FORCE us to live the way they want? What the hell ever happened to the RIGHT to pursue Happiness or the RIGHT to live and believe the way you choose?

I totally agree!
As a American, they are working on my LAST nerve here!!
I think our goverment & everyone involved.. should start cleaning UP their OWN back yard, before they start working on OURS!!

Damn! I think I made a wrong turn somewhere here in America and ended up in long ago Soviet Russia's policies!

Our Freedom of Speech, our choices and what have you.. are slowly being flushed down the Ole' Crapper, by our own people!

Will NOW get off the Soap-Box for a time

 

[ahtram88]

WHAT IS CONFUSING ME IS....

I found a post here at Casinomeister that a member [Jetset] had posted on Feb.23, 2008 about a Land Casino operator donating $1 Million Dollars to get Steve Beshear elected. Now that was a bad investment...OR was it? If people can't gamble online???

Is Governor Beshear going to cancel the Kentucky Derby this year too? I quess it is not gambling this man finds offensive.. he just wants to dictate how citizens gamble...there is a lot of money involved in all this political rangling .... You don't think this is all about someone lining their pockets do you? :smilewink:

-m

Kentucky contributions

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POLITICS AND MONEY - A VOLATILE MIX

Land casino operator defends contributions to Kentucky politician

A political row is gaining momentum in the US state of Kentucky over a $1 million "contribution" by a land casino owner to a political group that worked to elect a pro-gambling governor in Kentucky, reports Associated Press this weekend.

The casino owner, William Yung III, has essentially placed a huge bet that newly elected Governor Steve Beshear will be able to get the state's long-standing prohibition against casinos lifted, the article claims.

Yung has been forthright about his contribution: "I make no apologies for helping get Steve Beshear elected," he told The Associated Press in an interview. "I've got a First Amendment right to spend my money any way I want to spend it."

Governor Beshear is proposing an amendment to the state constitution that would allow up to seven casinos to be built at Kentucky horse tracks and five others in communities along the state's borders with Indiana, Ohio, Tennessee and West Virginia.

That many casinos, he said, could generate $600 million a year in tax revenue for a cash-strapped state government.

The proposal is a long shot in a Bible-belt state where lawmakers have rejected numerous other casino proposals over the past decade. If it passes, Yung would open a casino on a northern Kentucky site he bought just last month for $7 million.

"Absolutely, we're gambling on it," Yung said. "We don't know if it's going to pass or not."

Yung's $1 million contribution went to the Kentucky political group Bluegrass Freedom Fund that ran devastating television ads capitalising on the former governor's legal woes. Internal Revenue Service records show Yung's contribution accounted for a third of the $3 million the group spent during the Governor Beshear's race for the governor's mansion.

"I have done absolutely nothing wrong. Steve Beshear's done nothing wrong. Nobody associated with us has done anything wrong," he said. "It's just pretty sickening politics."

Yung's generosity included a $10 000 donation to help pay for Beshear's inaugural party on the Capitol grounds. Casino opponents claim he is using his riches to buy his way into a new and potentially lucrative market.

Political contributions of $1 million or more are becoming common in state-level elections, said Rachel Weiss, spokeswoman for the National Institute on Money in State Politics.

Beshear, who raised and spent about $6.8 million on his campaign last year against former Governor Ernie Fletcher, insists Yung's contributions bought him no favours. Yung would have to apply for a casino license just like anyone else, Beshear said.

"It would be naive for anybody to believe that a $1 million contribution to a fund that helped elect a pro-casino governor is not going to position the contributor in a favorable way," said John Mark Hack, head of the antigambling group Say No To Casinos.

After Beshear took office in December, Yung's privately held company, Columbia Sussex, paid $7 million for a site in northern Kentucky to build a casino. Yung called the property "prime real estate" that he can easily resell if Beshear's casino proposal flops.

Yung's company owns 13 casinos and 80 hotels in the United States and beyond, pulling in revenues of some $3 billion a year.

Governor Beshear had made legalising casinos a centrepiece of his campaign against former Governor Ernie Fletcher, a Republican who had been weakened by political scandal. Beshear pulled off a lopsided victory, and claimed it reflected broad-based support for legalising casinos.

Casino opponents, however, say Beshear's victory was the result of distaste for Fletcher, who, along with 13 associates, was indicted in 2006 for alleged violations of state hiring laws. Fletcher pardoned his associates and reached a deal with prosecutors to have the charges against him dropped.

"Donald Duck could have run against Ernie Fletcher and been elected governor," Hack said.
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[aka23]

I found a post here at Casinomeister that a member [Jetset] had posted on Feb.23, 2008 about a Land Casino operator donating $1 Million Dollars to get Steve Beshear elected. Now that was a bad investment...OR was it? If people can't gamble online???

Is Governor Beshear going to cancel the Kentucky Derby this year too? I quess it is not gambling this man finds offensive.. he just wants to dictate how citizens gamble...there is a lot of money involved in all this political rangling .... You don't think this is all about someone lining their pockets do you? :smilewink

It's not an inconsistent policy. The Kentucky governor seems concerned with protecting local gambling (primarily horse racing) from foreign competition, rather than eliminating gambling for moral/religious reasons. The land-based casino owner who helped get him elected likely supports the governor's current actions.

 

[anniemac]

Betting on the horses is not considered online gambling. Churchill Downs own a large number of the racetracks in the US and have their own betting site. Magna Entertainment owns a large number of race tracks and have their own betting site. Both Magna Entertainment and Churchill Downs work together and are partners in some tracks. Kentucky is working toward getting slot machines at their racetracks as are most of the other horse/dog tracks in the US. TVG has an online betting site and HRTV, owned by Magna, also has it's own betting site.

Now go figure that Kentucky would be trying to close down online casinos.

 

[Jackpot Factory]

Update from David Brickman at the Jackpot Factory

Hi everyone,

Ive posted the latest news on my blog..

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This is not a cheap attempt of self promotion, simply more efficient for me to post once

If anybody out there has specific questions please feel free to ask. I don't promise to have answers on the spot but will do my best to get accurate information.

All the best,

David Brickman

 

[me_and_ed]

Below is a list of the endangered sites as reported by the Gaming Intelligence Group. We will feature more on this issue as soon as there are new developments.[/B]

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So lets edit this list and leave all the clip joints, rogues and RTG shitholes (with the exception of a few) and get the good governer to block them!!

Geezuz I am not even american and this makes my blood boil.

 

[lots0]

Geezuz I am not even american and this makes my blood boil.

Funny part... Even if the domain names are seized, it is only a technical problem for the casinos, a problem with about the same difficulty level as changing servers.

I figure that most US players will not be effected in any major way.

 

[me_and_ed]

Funny part... Even if the domain names are seized, it is only a technical problem for the casinos, a problem with about the same difficulty level as changing servers.

I figure that most US players will not be effected in any major way.

I agree 100%, its the arrogance, gall and total disregard for freedom and rights that pisses me off.

 

[lots0]

I agree 100%, its the arrogance, gall and total disregard for freedom and rights that pisses me off.

Same here... I totally agree

 

[Slotster!]

Totally in shock...

I'll be utterly astonished if this gets passed... In fact there's no way in which it can happen, is there?

Unbelievable.

 

[cynthial]

Yung has been forthright about his contribution: "I make no apologies for helping get Steve Beshear elected," he told The Associated Press in an interview. "I've got a First Amendment right to spend my money any way I want to spend it."

I too have the right to spend my money any way I choose but apparently you and your ilk do not agree.

What hubris.

And for once, the idiots in question are not GOP. Phew! I am getting tired of becoming ashamed all of the time.

 

[anniemac]

Hope I don't get in trouble for this but there is a very good read regarding this on the APCW website. Lots of information that back up what I said about horseracing and what is happening.

The horseracing industry as a whole is losing money. Not only is the betting on horses down but the actual sales of horses are on the down slide. If you read the Daily Racing Form everyday you will read news about the downturn of racing. That is why most all race tracks now want to have slot machines. Except in Texas of course. Our government would rather the money go to LA, OK, AR and NM than allow our state to be corrupted by gambling. So who benefits from the closure of online gaming in the US. Kentucky has been trying to get a slot bill passed for some time.

I am sure everyone is smart enough to see the writing on the wall. I had much rather be gambling online in my PJ's than driving 66 miles to Shreveport. So the B&M casinos lose money.

I, for one, am too old to appreciate some J**KA** in another state telling me what I can spend my money on.

 

[lots0]

From what I understad, the KY Court has issued orders to ICANN and other US registrars to have the 141 domain names seized.

Sad thing about this...

I see this seizing of domain names by Ky Governor as the first step towards the end of the www.

What is going to stop China, Saudi Arabia, Iran, North Korea, Malaysia or any two bit radical leader from following suit and seizing domain names of websites they declare are illegal... I'll tell you what is going to stop them... nothing at all.

If the US can seize domain names to protect its horse racing business, why can't China seize domain names of sites that break their law by advocating the freedom of Tibet?

Why can't Saudi Arabia, instead of just blocking websites that criticizes or offends them decide to seize those domain names now they see how 'easy' it can be.

And what really makes me angry is that this pin headed Governor has no clue what his bribery, political corruption and protectionism will cost the world in the long run... I hope his pee pee falls off.

 

[classymom]

I hope his pee pee falls off.[/QUOTE]


I agree. I would also add the pee pee's of all idiot politicians who are still against Americans freedom of choice.

 

[winbig]

Has anyone else had gotten an email from ANY CASINO OR POKER ROOM letting you know that they're making changes with their domain name and when it's going to happen, and that you're going to have to re-download the software?

Or have you figured it out on your own WHEN YOU GET CUT OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF A HAND?

I'm not going to name names, because I think this can be resolved peacefully, but it really pisses me off that a certain accredited group can't even send out a single email letting people know what's going on and give advance notice (even an hour's notice would be good...anything) of when they're going to switch everything.

 

[BingoT]

PlayShare

You have no doubt by now heard of the most recent developments to
curtail online gaming in the USA. The Kentucky circuit courts ruling
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has yet to come into force. We would like to take this opportunity to
assure you that all steps are being taken to minimize the impact of
this ruling should it come into effect.

We have made all the changes that will enable us to seamlessly direct
your traffic to alternates to the .com sites should we be affected in
the future. For the most part, the changes that we make will not
affect any partner that uses our adservers. For those of you that host
your own creative inventory, we will make the appropriate changes in
our Media library (you may have to update your links). We will advise
you when this change is affected. For now, however, our business
remains unaffected.

We remain committed to our partners and will keep you abreast of all
developments as they happen.

Should you have any questions regarding any of the above, please do
not hesitate to contact your affiliate manager.

Regards

Max Wright

CEO PlayShare
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Possible change to .com URL's marketed by ReferBack

Due to the recent court case brought by the Commonwealth of Kentucky
against 141 online casino and poker branded URL's there is a possibility
that River Belle, JackpotCity.com and Lucky Nugget and King Neptune's
online casinos may lose their .com domains.

We at ReferBack would like to assure all affiliates that both the IGC and
Microgaming are doing their best to resolve this issue as quickly as possible.

However, if unsuccessful we at ReferBack will keep you informed of any and
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[RobWin]

Dang, that's going to be a hell of a lot of affiliate tags and banners to switch out huh...

 

[Jackpot Factory]

Update from David Brickman at the Jackpot Factory

Hi everyone.

David Brickman again...

A hearing was scheduled for today on this issue but the latest info is that its been delayed until tomorrow. No reason has been given and nor do we have any inclination as to what the ruling will be.

I can say that from what Ive heard from many contacts in the industry is that most of the domains listed in the case are going to be moving to new domains such as .UK or .CA etc. This is purely a defensive measure and not because they know anything about the potential decision. According to most experts this is a ground breaking case in Internet domain law which would set a very troublesome precedent.

All the best,

David Brickman
VP Player Affairs
Jackpot Factory Casino Group

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[mercy]

I hope his pee pee falls off.

Made my day Lotso!:notworthy

 

[NASHVEGAS]

According to most experts this is a ground breaking case in Internet domain law which would set a very troublesome precedent.

All the best,

David Brickman
VP Player Affairs
Jackpot Factory Casino Group

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And the second ground breaking case in Internet online gaming law in the US as it would be naive to believe some other States would not follow KY's precedent as you state in the event KY passes as law..... I still view this as political posturing rather than about online gaming per se so who knows. It was Fletcher who tried to capture votes with the over zealous anti-gambling crusade pulling several different stunts based on Yung's support of Beashear. Yung may be out of the picture as Columbia-Sussex last I read was in trouble with the banks......That said,the old money still speaks loudly in KY and primarily from the horse industry including breeding and coal industry, fwiw!!..........Nashvegas, the city, is only 60 miles South of KY and it used to be the old money that spoke also in NV and for the most part, the State also but NV has attracted major noveau money and thus political change among many (Remember if Gore wins his own State, then there would have been a different whipping boy)......KY is politically generally the same as it was 25 years ago with maybe the exception of Louisville!!!.....just some random thoughts and some facts!!!

Not sure but didn't Frank's original bill still ultimately leave online gaming (regulation,etc.) on the State level???

 

[Mousey]

*sigh* So no one reads the Casino Industry Discussion section.... first post there on this was on the 22nd I think...
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/kentucky-seeking-to-seize-141-gaming-domains.26935/
LOL

It sucks... Let's just say that, if this is allowed without a huge ruckas, then what's to keep other countries from taking over domains Mr. Beshear (and his ilk) thinks is a-okay? Maybe the Muslim countries don't like their citizens being able to log on to USA christian websites... or someone in Greece doesn't think his people should be exposed to USA fast food ads and wants to take over Burger King and McDonalds domains... or whatever... Get my drift? Who died and made Beshear king of the internet??

/end of rant...

 

[Jackpot Factory]

Update from David Brickman

David Brickman (yet again)

I managed to get hold of someone within the Governor's office who confirmed a few things. The government isn't looking for any sort of taxation regarding online casinos. They just want to drive the online casino industry out of Kentucky and the the residual damage doesn't concern them. The official stance as far as the Kentucky Governor's office is concerned the online casino industry is completely illegal. They are concerned about these foreign online casino operations "preying" on their citizens.

Regarding the protection of the horse racing gambling industry. It was fairly obvious that this is their intent. Kentucky based racetracks do take online bets. It wouldn't be a surprise if they started taking more than just horse racing bets in the near future. This whole case has nothing to do with the law, just greed...

David Brickman
VP Player Affairs
Jackpot Factory Casino Group

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[winbig]

David Brickman (yet again)

I managed to get hold of someone within the Governor's office who confirmed a few things. The government isn't looking for any sort of taxation regarding online casinos. They just want to drive the online casino industry out of Kentucky and the the residual damage doesn't concern them. The official stance as far as the Kentucky Governor's office is concerned the online casino industry is completely illegal. They are concerned about these foreign online casino operations "preying" on their citizens.

Regarding the protection of the horse racing gambling industry. It was fairly obvious that this is their intent. Kentucky based racetracks do take online bets. It wouldn't be a surprise if they started taking more than just horse racing bets in the near future. This whole case has nothing to do with the law, just greed...

David Brickman
VP Player Affairs
Jackpot Factory Casino Group

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Sooo, what are they going to do about the UK and EU citizens that are online and betting on the Kentucky Derby next year? Are they going to go after them too?

ie: They're not going to stop it altogether.

 

[Westland Bowl]

......Regarding the protection of the horse racing gambling industry. It was fairly obvious that this is their intent. Kentucky based racetracks do take online bets. .........

So someone over in Europe or elsewhere needs to seize the Kentucky Derby online betting domain! Heck, go whole hog and seize the Kentucky government domain for overstepping their boundaries!

An international Hatfield and McCoys all over again! Yeehaw!

 

[Mousey]

the hearing is scheduled for this afternoon...

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Kentucky wants to block access
By Stephenie Steitzer [email protected] September 26, 2008


Buzz up! FRANKFORT, Ky. -- Kentucky has taken control of two online casinos as part of Gov. Steve Beshear's attempt to crack down on illegal Internet gambling.


Internet users in Kentucky and the rest of world now are unable to access the two casinos, highrollerslounge.com and luckypyramidcasino.com. The domain-name registration for the sites lists the Kentucky Justice Cabinet as the "registrant" or operator.

Last week Beshear filed suit....

 

[Webzcas]

This is F******* ridiculous. So much for America being the "Land of the Free"

Seriously, those of you which are US Citizens, do your duty in November and vote the Republicans out of office. Or do you want a book banning, white beard wearing deity who lives in the clouds believing, pro life even if you were a victim of rape, Vice President helping to run your country.

I thought the UK had got too PC and nanny stateish. This just takes the biscuit.

 

[mercy]

This is F******* ridiculous. So much for America being the "Land of the Free"

Seriously, those of you which are US Citizens, do your duty in November and vote the Republicans out of office. Or do you want a book banning, white beard wearing deity who lives in the clouds believing, pro life even if you were a victim of rape, Vice President helping to run your country.

I thought the UK had got too PC and nanny stateish. This just takes the biscuit.

I second that. This election means more to us than in the past.

 

[Webzcas]

Some of the things I have read about Palin in particular, on my Politics Board, makes her seem and sound worse than Bush could ever be.

November 4th is about whether America wants a change or more of the same ala erosion of personal freedoms.

I still cannot comprehend how Kentucky got away with this. It is beyond belief.

 

[lots0]

Seriously, those of you which are US Citizens, do your duty in November and vote the Republicans out of office. Or do you want a book banning, white beard wearing deity who lives in the clouds believing, pro life even if you were a victim of rape, Vice President helping to run your country.

The Governor of Kentucky that did this, Steve Beshear, is a Democrat. You can't blame the Republicans for this one.

Thats the point most Americans (and observers) fail to take note of...
Crooked American politicians come in all flavors, shapes and sizes... And our government is just full of them from top to bottom and on both sides of the isle. That is why we NEED a clean sweep, we need to remove all the crap and start over.

The politicians that scare me the most are the ones that claim that 'God' is telling them how to run the Country... Just what we don't need, a schizophrenic politician with his/her fingers on ALL the buttons.

BTW - I understand the domain name seizures is already a done deal, the domain names are now in the process of being confiscated per the court order.

The good news... The people of Kentucky will still be able to access their favorite online casino, today, tonight, tomorrow and for the foreseeable future.

All the moron Governor of Kentucky did was waste tax payers money in a futile effort that will not even slow access to the online casinos.

 

[classymom]

The Governor of Kentucky that did this, Steve Beshear, is a Democrat. You can't blame the Republicans for this one.

Thats the point most Americans (and observers) fail to take note of...
Crooked American politicians come in all flavors, shapes and sizes... And our government is just full of them from top to bottom and on both sides of the isle. That is why we NEED a clean sweep, we need to remove all the crap and start over.

The politicians that scare me the most are the ones that claim that 'God' is telling them how to run the Country... Just what we don't need, a schizophrenic politician with his/her fingers on ALL the buttons.

BTW - I understand the domain name seizures is already a done deal, the domain names are now in the process of being confiscated per the court order.

The good news... The people of Kentucky will still be able to access their favorite online casino, today, tonight, tomorrow and for the foreseeable future.

All the moron Governor of Kentucky did was waste tax payers money in a futile effort that will not even slow access to the online casinos.

I'm just curious to what he was trying to prove by blocking domain names - Just that he could???

 

[lots0]

I'm just curious to what he was trying to prove by blocking domain names - Just that he could???

Well from what I see this is all about making the people that donated to Steve Beshear's political campaign happy.

Steve Beshear's friends include a very shady land based casino owner that 'donated' one million dollars for a pet project of Beshear's and then donated to the 'legal' limits of his campaign... This particular land based casino owner has been very vocal in the past about what he calls "unfair" competition from online casinos...

Steve Beshear's friends and political contributors also include the movers and shakers of the Horse Racing Gambling Business that want to put slot machines at Horse racing tracks in Kentucky... His friends feel that online casinos would compete directly with them for slots players... So they go to their bought and paid for pet governor and tell him to get rid of the competition...

I would love to see the faces in the KY governors office tomorrow morning, when they go check the world wide web and find that the online casinos did not just go away... But are still easily and quickly accessible to the good people of Kentucky and are now completely out of his reach.