Just lost 11k of winnings at 32red due to "pending withdrawals"

[randomiam]

sux ive done it a few times i hate pending cashouts the word pending makes me cringe
if im playing cash and not up or a bonus i only play where i get paid same day really
i love 32red and all but these days i only play there if the bonus is good
my last deposit was like 50 with 50 bonus it bombed so quickly

There should be a "hold it for me"option instead of pending where they can take the 2 days to pay but it cant be reversed.

 

[spintee]

Some person send me the rope, That 295 I had pending I reverse 45 of it, So pissed of but not that I lost but error after error, Lucky its weekend and as I withdrawn last night it probably will not make any difference time wise,

Any way I had to reverse the lot so when I withdrawn again I done 200 and 50 just in case (Ichy fingrs) Well I left that site and went on to the same network & tried free play and all working sweet, So deposit a £10 for £10 bonus and guess what? Yes errors again, Im trying to play pulling my hair out, Got up to about 50 and I said bugger this, Just try and spend it on what ever, Got to 25 and called it a day, added a few more grey hairs to my barnet, Looked at wager and still halfway to go, So flicked threw the internet and when back to test, Still errors and after getting kicked out a few times had £12 left so I said that's it, Just finish the last bit and time to whach farther ted,

So went on to Fierwork frenzy and fire works went of alright 25p bet win:: £299.91 just shy of 1200 xbet, If I got a wild in middle it would of been about £850

 

[goatwack]

Some person send me the rope, That 295 I had pending I reverse 45 of it, So pissed of but not that I lost but error after error, Lucky its weekend and as I withdrawn last night it probably will not make any difference time wise,

Any way I had to reverse the lot so when I withdrawn again I done 200 and 50 just in case (Ichy fingrs) Well I left that site and went on to the same network & tried free play and all working sweet, So deposit a £10 for £10 bonus and guess what? Yes errors again, Im trying to play pulling my hair out, Got up to about 50 and I said bugger this, Just try and spend it on what ever, Got to 25 and called it a day, added a few more grey hairs to my barnet, Looked at wager and still halfway to go, So flicked threw the internet and when back to test, Still errors and after getting kicked out a few times had £12 left so I said that's it, Just finish the last bit and time to whach farther ted,

So went on to Fierwork frenzy and fire works went of alright 25p bet win:: £299.91 just shy of 1200 xbet, If I got a wild in middle it would of been about £850

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So remember kids : only reverse withdrawals if you're going to win

 

[psychogene]

Last time I reverse withdrew at 32red was off a $20 deposit of which I turned into $280 playing gung pow. Reverse withdrew that $280 bit by bit over that weekend and pretty much lost it all and then when i was down to $100 I thought screw it reverse withdrew it all proceeded to play Jurassic Park of which I never have won anything and after 1500+ spins of my balance practically hovering around $100 upped the bet from 0.60p to 1.20p and eventually landed a nice bonus win of $600+ when left with $40 of playing chips. Withdrew that and did not touch 32red again until the money was in my bank.

So it can work though rarely and I ain't doing that again lol. In fact I've self-excluded myself from 32red for a few months because after that I won another $250 playing fat lady sings and was finally after a few months in the winnings with 32red though by a really small margin. However I kept making small deposits here and there and multiple deposits back to back on the same day and have not won a thing at 32red since that. Must have made about 20 small deposits after winning $250 off fat lady sings with no result so for now I am taking a break from 32red because whether its luck or not I don't know but I have much more luck playing MG slots elsewhere than 32red and even though I low roll I got tired of all those multiple deposits going nowhere. I have much better luck spreading my play across multiple platforms and online casinos.

I'll be back though after the self-exclusion period to see if it all fares better again hehe.

 

[mina888]

Thank you

Thank you for all the kind words. This is a big lesson learned for me.
My head is still spinning from the loss. I have lost more than this in a span of months but losing your winnings just feels ten times worst. At one point I thought center court was malfunctioning as every other spin was a bonus round with multiple big wins. Also on bdba I just couldn't lose. LESSONS LEARNED!

As for the 24 hour pending period, this is definitely not the case. I had 3-4k stuck in pending withdrawal for a period of a few days. So I call support to ask what is going on? This is when he told me 3k will be processed sometimes today and another $1800 will be tomorrow. I made sure not to go under 3k that day just so that it gets processed and I didnt. Next day I look in my account and the 3k is STILL pending.....

 

[spintee]

As I said, If what you said is true about the pending time I believe you & I personally think it is bang out of order, Any person reading this can clearly see that they had done this for a reason and nothing else, I do not like making bad comments about sites but I think a good % of us no that its wrong to have a pending time as it is & to be told its coming that day after the promised time and it does not than something should be done,

There should be more rules and regs with these pending times, Put an button next to it so it cannot be reversed, They soon put a bloody reverse button there so why not a lock button ?

Thank you for all the kind words. This is a big lesson learned for me.
My head is still spinning from the loss. I have lost more than this in a span of months but losing your winnings just feels ten times worst. At one point I thought center court was malfunctioning as every other spin was a bonus round with multiple big wins. Also on bdba I just couldn't lose. LESSONS LEARNED!

As for the 24 hour pending period, this is definitely not the case. I had 3-4k stuck in pending withdrawal for a period of a few days. So I call support to ask what is going on? This is when he told me 3k will be processed sometimes today and another $1800 will be tomorrow. I made sure not to go under 3k that day just so that it gets processed and I didnt. Next day I look in my account and the 3k is STILL pending.....

 

[mina888]

Thank you Azzurri

Reading your post was one that really helped ease the pain. I read it 5 times so far. Thank you!!!!

Wow.

Some of you speak like you honestly have no heart at all.

funnymunny, you seem to like quotes, so I wonder if you are familiar with the one about not saying anything at all if you have nothing nice to say?

You may be right in your fiercely direct analysis of the situation, but this poor person came on here to vent, and clearly stated their own fault and poor judgement in the matter that led to this terrible loss.

What are you trying to achieve by outlining what they already know, whilst also unnecessarily adding your own cold jabs by making references to being stupid? Your own self gratification? You want to show that you are a stronger person who has more self control and willpower, to not suffer such a fate? Bravo to you sir.

I see no reason for your holier than thou comments, other than to make this person feel even worse that they clearly already do.

I think you seriously need to reconsider the appropriateness of your comments in this regard. I actually feel a little embarrassed and apologetic on your behalf.

This op caved into a process that is clearly implemented and utilized for one reason alone, and that is to prey on a very common weakness amongst all gamblers. That is a lack of willpower.

Many of us have been down this road before to varying degrees, and felt the op's pain, so I don't see why anyone would want to single them out as some weak freak of nature because they caved to a process that is designed for that exact purpose. No gambler plays expecting to cave to the temptation of not stopping at the appropriate time, but it is proven time and again to be a common issue for many, if not yourself.

Many other top casinos are proof that fast withdrawals can be the norm, and pending periods are nothing more then an advantage play against the customer to entice them to reverse their winnings. Any gambler already has that slight impulse that tells them 'what if', otherwise they wouldn't deposit and play in the first place.

Casinos that then wave the temptation back in the customer's faces intentionally after a win, know exactly what they're doing, and to then restart the pending period after each reverse is just that much worse IMO.

We all slip up at times and make mistakes. The OP can at least admit to their mistake, and has every right to then vent, and also vent about their dislike of the pending system, even if they were aware of it's existence.

At the end of the day, if limits can be put on deposits to protect the customer, why can't limits be put on the amounts players can reverse? Simply because it is a system purely designed to prey on a gamblers biggest potential downfall, knowing when to quit.

No gambler is totally exempt from this potential downfall, and I don't care how high and mighty anyone wants to pretend to be, we have all suffered from it at some stage.

The worse thing you could then possibly come across, is a sympathetic ear that tells you you're stupid and should have known better.

OP, sorry to hear this happened to you, and I feel your pain. You're not alone in this type of thing happening, but all you can do is move on and try to learn from it. I suffered a similar fate a long time ago, and simply voted with my wallet, and moved on to sites such as Guts and Betat who don't implement these evil pending periods.

I have an account at 32red, and although I rarely play there, I have nothing against them personally, however this is a perfect example of the cold hard truth behind the unnecessary implementation of a system designed to break a players will. I don't by into the whole, it's a necessary process to ensure the casino's financial survival either.

This is a billion dollar business for the casinos, so they're surviving just fine without the need for pending periods. Any pending periods are simply designed with one goal in mind, and that is to get a second chance at making sure the customer leaves with nothing.

 

[Azzurri]

Glad it can help in some way.

 

[mina888]

If I had read this somewhere before the win, I would've been mentally prepared better. What you described is exactly how I was thinking. Waking up happy knowing I'm thousands richer so what would be so bad about losing a few hundred? Spot on!

This is the whole reason WHY casinos have pending periods. Not for cost, not for customer 'convenience' (as they all know without fear of contradiction customers prefer quick withdrawals as their prime convenience) but to play the percentage game...

In other words, they know damn well over a year they will save a small fortune by isolating the weak from the strong-willed. They know damn well that when a player hits big, they'll be on a high, leave their PC happy thinking they are on a winning streak. They know after cooling down for a few hours, the player will hit a psychological comfort zone and think along the lines of "I have got £5,000 on the way to me, I'm £4900 better-off than this morning, so if I play another £400 I can't lose, I'll still be £4,500 better-off than I was when I woke up."

Repeat this above thought process until the whole lot is spunked back. The casinos are fully aware of gamblers' psychology.

Simple answer to the OP and others like them, do your homework and find out the casinos like Guts/bet-at, Sky, Grosvenor etc. and STICK TO THEM.

KK - I think you are being unfair in suggesting the OP would have spunked it all back by re-depositing if paid fast. When they saw the glow of that in their bank account, how do you know they wouldn't have gone up the local garage and bought a new motor? Being weak-willed when the money is in the casino account is a very different matter from being weak-willed when seeing it on the display of your bank's ATM......

 

[Harry_BKK]

Thank you for all the kind words. This is a big lesson learned for me.
My head is still spinning from the loss. I have lost more than this in a span of months but losing your winnings just feels ten times worst. At one point I thought center court was malfunctioning as every other spin was a bonus round with multiple big wins. Also on bdba I just couldn't lose. LESSONS LEARNED!

As for the 24 hour pending period, this is definitely not the case. I had 3-4k stuck in pending withdrawal for a period of a few days. So I call support to ask what is going on? This is when he told me 3k will be processed sometimes today and another $1800 will be tomorrow. I made sure not to go under 3k that day just so that it gets processed and I didnt. Next day I look in my account and the 3k is STILL pending.....

If that is the case and a partial reversal re-starts the 24hr pending period then this is predatory behavior of the casino, which usually only happens at rogue outfits and should be reported to the LGA or UKGC.

I had similar things happening. One day i had 3 withdrawals pending totaling over 4K, lots of reversals and re-withdrawing in between and suddenly i received 100$ with the afternoon payment run into my Neteller account... why did they transfer only 100$ (that was actually my initial deposit on the day i made the first withdrawal)? Couldn't get an explanation.

Once i made the withdrawal just minutes after the deadline for it to be processed the next day. Sent an email to payments if they could still process it. Got a big NO, like what was i thinking, 24hr is the minimum. Yet their T&C's state usually about 24 hrs For me 23hrs 48mins is about 24hrs or am I wrong?

Yet 32RED is again nominated for the Casino Of The Year Award!!!!! How can that be? They cut some many player friendly features in the past 12 months that they certainly don't deserve it at all. And this slice-by-slice tactics they apply is just to cover it all up.

 

[mina888]

Coincidence????

That is really strange that you said this. Because I received $100 in my bank account when I had 3-4k of withdrawals pending at all times. Jonathan sent me a PM yesterday and I asked him to check into my withdrawal activities in order to explain the reason for 6 days pending withdrawals where it shouldve been 24 hours. The span started from Saturday to Friday where 2k was finally removed from pending state.

If that is the case and a partial reversal re-starts the 24hr pending period then this is predatory behavior of the casino, which usually only happens at rogue outfits and should be reported to the LGA or UKGC.

I had similar things happening. One day i had 3 withdrawals pending totaling over 4K, lots of reversals and re-withdrawing in between and suddenly i received 100$ with the afternoon payment run into my Neteller account... why did they transfer only 100$ (that was actually my initial deposit on the day i made the first withdrawal)? Couldn't get an explanation.

Once i made the withdrawal just minutes after the deadline for it to be processed the next day. Sent an email to payments if they could still process it. Got a big NO, like what was i thinking, 24hr is the minimum. Yet their T&C's state usually about 24 hrs For me 23hrs 48mins is about 24hrs or am I wrong?

Yet 32RED is again nominated for the Casino Of The Year Award!!!!! How can that be? They cut some many player friendly features in the past 12 months that they certainly don't deserve it at all. And this slice-by-slice tactics they apply is just to cover it all up.

 

[Harry_BKK]

It would be nice to create an application that could cover any casino, web based or download based. Making an app search for a reverse button and then modifying the output would be pretty simple. Could even make it casino specific. It would just nullify the button to make it inactive. (You would still see it but not be able to click it).

- T

I would download and install such an app immediately. Of course i don't reverse and lose every single withdrawal but i play daily and when i am out of funds to deposit then the only option is reversal. Only once i did not regret doing so. About 1 year ago at Fortune Lounge i reversed 500 Euro from a 2K withdrawal and hit a real big win on LOADED with free spins @ 25 Euro bet and got just over 20K Euro.

So what to do? I for myself closed my DASH, GL and NED accounts, started cutting down my deposits at 32RED (down from 5-7k/month to less than 1K). So i voted with my wallet. It is just sad that 32RED has gone down so badly from putting player satisfaction first (or at least we felt they would) in a matter of less than 12 months.

 

[mina888]

To Dunnover

Simple answer to the OP and others like them, do your homework and find out the casinos like Guts/bet-at, Sky, Grosvenor etc. and STICK TO THEM


I tried Guts, they charge a fee for every cc transaction.
I tried Betat, love them but I can't use my personal cc here it always says gateway rejected payment so as Im a canadian player the only option is vanilla mastercards which you have to pay a fee of $7 plus tax per $200 card.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Simple answer to the OP and others like them, do your homework and find out the casinos like Guts/bet-at, Sky, Grosvenor etc. and STICK TO THEM


I tried Guts, they charge a fee for every cc transaction.
I tried Betat, love them but I can't use my personal cc here it always says gateway rejected payment so as Im a canadian player the only option is vanilla mastercards which you have to pay a fee of $7 plus tax per $200 card.

Try Luck247, it is a download MG casino, i got paid within 3-16 hours for the 3 withdrawals i made there. I always emailed their VIP host Shihaam and he would flush the withdrawals immediately. The only drawbacks are no weekend payouts and during the week it is only during business hours like 08.00-17.00GMT and their Live Chat, you can wait sometimes 5-10 minutes to get connected or an answer. But i am sure they will improve on that one. They have a 50% promotion pretty much every day and it is always like up to 200/300 bonus chips for the first 5 deposits which are credited automatically and instantly with every deposit.

Also Videoslots, Betsafe which are browser based multiplatform casinos like Guts.

To be honest i wouldn't mind a small charge for deposits/withdrawals when withdrawals are paid in less than 2 hours and that 24/7/365 like Guts does.

 

[Harry_BKK]

That is really strange that you said this. Because I received $100 in my bank account when I had 3-4k of withdrawals pending at all times. Jonathan sent me a PM yesterday and I asked him to check into my withdrawal activities in order to explain the reason for 6 days pending withdrawals where it shouldve been 24 hours. The span started from Saturday to Friday where 2k was finally removed from pending state.

So you got the 100$ too, my first thought is they are taking the p... that is just ridiculous. Anxious to hear what Jonathan will say.

 

[The Dude]

Do my eyes deceive me, or am I reading a seven page thread because someone played their winnings back? This was not due to some roguish deception - or unethical bonus lures - it was because the player lacked the self discipline to walk away. No sympathies here.

I agree with KK, if you would have received this in your webwallet account (or wherever) you would have redeposited. So why are you blaming the casino for your loss?

Here's what I do: if I win big, I make a withdrawal of most of it, and leave a small percentage of it to play back - just for shits and giggles. When that is gone, I exit the casino and find something else to do. There is no one to blame here but yourself - don't play the victim card here.

...Yet 32RED is again nominated for the Casino Of The Year Award!!!!! How can that be? They cut some many player friendly features in the past 12 months that they certainly don't deserve it at all. And this slice-by-slice tactics they apply is just to cover it all up.

Bullshit. They made the shortlist from input by the forum members (other than you), newsletter responses, and by the regular emails I get from people. There are a handful of disgruntled players who constantly berate 32Red because they no longer flush and have no weekend payment processing - you're one of them and I have made it clear to you personally that agenda laden posts will not be tolerated. Keep it up and see what happens.

It's already been explained why 32Red did this. It's here somewhere but I'm not going to spend my Saturday digging this up.

If you don't like 32Red, then don't play there.

 

[Azzurri]

Do my eyes deceive me, or am I reading a seven page thread because someone played their winnings back? This was not due to some roguish deception - or unethical bonus lures - it was because the player lacked the self discipline to walk away. No sympathies here.

I agree with KK, if you would have received this in your webwallet account (or wherever) you would have redeposited. So why are you blaming the casino for your loss?

Here's what I do: if I win big, I make a withdrawal of most of it, and leave a small percentage of it to play back - just for shits and giggles. When that is gone, I exit the casino and find something else to do. There is no one to blame here but yourself - don't play the victim card here.



Bullshit. They made the shortlist from input by the forum members (other than you), newsletter responses, and by the regular emails I get from people. There are a handful of disgruntled players who constantly berate 32Red because they no longer flush and have no weekend payment processing - you're one of them and I have made it clear to you personally that agenda laden posts will not be tolerated. Keep it up and see what happens.

It's already been explained why 32Red did this. It's here somewhere but I'm not going to spend my Saturday digging this up.

If you don't like 32Red, then don't play there.

Knew that was coming.

 

[The Dude]

Changed thread title from "due to pending withdrawal" to "lack of self discipline" and moved to the complaints section.

@OP - please reread the forum rules about posting complaints. Thank you.

 

[Azzurri]

Changed thread title and moved to the complaints section.

@OP - please reread the forum rules about posting complaints. Thank you.

Just for the record Bryan, the OP did state it was due to her(?) ill discipline, and I think the point of the thread was to vent, rather than complain about, or soil, 32red's name. As for other members, I don't know their history, so can't comment.

The only legitimate complaint I got from it, was that the pending period restarts after each reversal, which I agree sux.

Personally, as I stated, I have a general dislike of pending periods full stop regardless of the casino that implements them.

On a side note, I know you hate anyone who complains about 32red, but I don't think anyone of sound mind who reads this thread will walk away not wanting to play at 32red. If anything, it may serve as a reminder to be a little more vigilante and disciplined when playing at a site with a pending period, as this is the horrific outcome that could occur.

I think there was a lesson in this tale for the OP, and for everyone else who reads it. I don't think any harm has been done to anyone other than the OP.

 

[The Dude]

...On a side note, I know you hate anyone who complains about 32red, but I don't think anyone of sound mind who reads this thread will walk away not wanting to play at 32red. If anything, it may serve as a reminder to be a little more vigilante and disciplined when playing at a site with a pending period, as this is the horrific outcome that could occur.

I think there was a lesson in this tale for the OP, and for everyone else who reads it. I don't think any harm has been done to anyone other than the OP.

I don't hate people who complain about 32Red. What I dislike is for people to blame others for their problem(s) - no matter what it is. If you want to complain that you played your winnings back, that's fine and dandy. As soon as you shift the blame to something other than yourself, that's where I take issue.

There are no sacred cows here.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Do my eyes deceive me, or am I reading a seven page thread because someone played their winnings back? This was not due to some roguish deception - or unethical bonus lures - it was because the player lacked the self discipline to walk away. No sympathies here.

re-starting the 24 hr period after a partial reversal - what is that?
withdrawals pending from Saturday to Friday - what is that?
paying 100$ out of 3-4K withdrawals - what is that?

It's already been explained why 32Red did this. It's here somewhere but I'm not going to spend my Saturday digging this up.

There was one single post relating to these new regulations from Mark where he said that flushing withdrawals and asking for DOTD chips on multiple deposits cloggs up Live Support, which i cannot see as an explanation as the MG software provides automatic systems for that.

There are a handful of disgruntled players who constantly berate 32Red because they no longer flush and have no weekend payment processing

i don't think it is just a handful since we had quite a few threads about this in the past 6 weeks and many players expressed their dislike in one or the other way. I might do it too directly and too harsh but in essence it says the same.

If you don't like 32Red, then don't play there.

i stated now a few times that i DO like 32RED and it just makes me sad to see the decline in player support over such a relatively short period.

 

[Balthazar]

I agree with KK, if you would have received this in your webwallet account (or wherever) you would have redeposited.

Over a long period of time, yes, probably. I highly doubt that he'd have redeposited the whole thing within a few days, though. That was enough money to pay off some serious debts, make a nice trip or a even make a good cash down on a new car.

Reverse withdrawals are pure evilness and I never understood why you think it's ethical and shouldn't be questioned.

The money that the casinos save in "banking fees" is an absolute joke compared to the amount of money that they save by not paying reversed (and lost) withdrawals.

Let's put it this way: If you combine ALL the banking fees of ALL my deposits and cashouts over the last 10 years, it won't even be 1% of what I've lost with reverse withdrawals. And I've stopped reversing withdrawals a LONG time ago.

So is it the player's fault? Yes. Is it ethical or justifiable? Hell no.


Like Dunover said: STICK WITH CASINOS THAT DON'T OFFER THE OPTION TO REVERSE YOUR CASHOUT.

 

[mina888]

I never blamed 32red for my reversals. I clicked on "reverse" over and over again. 32red didn't. I am to blame 100%. My mistake, my fault, my bad. Im not blaming 32red or casinomeister or my cat. I REVERSED. Call me out on all of the above and i have no issue with it because i fully agree with you. But please dont tell me if that money was in my bank account that I would've deposited it. That is not how I play. I would NEVER deposit $200 after another over and over again. I fell in to the trap of the system. The system is there for weak players such as myself to use and I was fooled by it. I learned an expensive lesson here and like Azzuri said, why not let others learn from my mistake?

The only issue with this thread about 32red is why were the withdrawals in pending for so long. When I called to find out why its taking them a few days and why are the winnings still in pending state after 4 days I was told everytime I reverse and withdraw again it resets the clock. It made no sense to me because I had never busted out on my winnings and always had a few thousands in pending withdrawals. So I asked Jonathan. Johnathan confirmed that if i withdraw $100, then reverse $20, and later withdraw another $40, the clock is still ticking from the original $100 but the new $40 will start a new clock. This confirms the flaw in the system. Because when i was told that 3k will be processed 4 days ago, i was up at 5-6k in withdrawals at the time and made sure not to go less than 3k. The next day, 4.8k of withdrawals were still sitting in pending. Another 36 hours and still sitting in pending.

Now, on a side note. I am not a regular poster, i read a lot of posts and have been for a while but im not sure who's who in terms of moderators of this forum etc... So please explain this to me like Im a 5 year old. It seems to me that everytime I post something nice and positive aboit 32red no one has an issue with it except a handfull of members here. But as soon as I vent about 32red, either you or Kasinoking call me on it. If this forum is biased I want to know about it because I don't want to be a member of it. Again, i didnt start this thread to blame anyone but myself. I was feeling hurt and needed to vent.
What is the problem with 8 pages of other members helping me cope with MY mistake??? Is this against the forum rules?

Do my eyes deceive me, or am I reading a seven page thread because someone played their winnings back? This was not due to some roguish deception - or unethical bonus lures - it was because the player lacked the self discipline to walk away. No sympathies here.

I agree with KK, if you would have received this in your webwallet account (or wherever) you would have redeposited. So why are you blaming the casino for your loss?

Here's what I do: if I win big, I make a withdrawal of most of it, and leave a small percentage of it to play back - just for shits and giggles. When that is gone, I exit the casino and find something else to do. There is no one to blame here but yourself - don't play the victim card here.



Bullshit. They made the shortlist from input by the forum members (other than you), newsletter responses, and by the regular emails I get from people. There are a handful of disgruntled players who constantly berate 32Red because they no longer flush and have no weekend payment processing - you're one of them and I have made it clear to you personally that agenda laden posts will not be tolerated. Keep it up and see what happens.

It's already been explained why 32Red did this. It's here somewhere but I'm not going to spend my Saturday digging this up.

If you don't like 32Red, then don't play there.

 

[cncas123]

I never blamed 32red for my reversals. I clicked on "reverse" over and over again. 32red didn't. I am to blame 100%. My mistake, my fault, my bad. Im not blaming 32red or casinomeister or my cat. I REVERSED. Call me out on all of the above and i have no issue with it because i fully agree with you. But please dont tell me if that money was in my bank account that I would've deposited it. That is not how I play. I would NEVER deposit $200 after another over and over again. I fell in to the trap of the system. The system is there for weak players such as myself to use and I was fooled by it. I learned an expensive lesson here and like Azzuri said, why not let others learn from my mistake?

The only issue with this thread about 32red is why were the withdrawals in pending for so long. When I called to find out why its taking them a few days and why are the winnings still in pending state after 4 days I was told everytime I reverse and withdraw again it resets the clock. It made no sense to me because I had never busted out on my winnings and always had a few thousands in pending withdrawals. So I asked Jonathan. Johnathan confirmed that if i withdraw $100, then reverse $20, and later withdraw another $40, the clock is still ticking from the original $100 but the new $40 will start a new clock. This confirms the flaw in the system. Because when i was told that 3k will be processed 4 days ago, i was up at 5-6k in withdrawals at the time and made sure not to go less than 3k. The next day, 4.8k of withdrawals were still sitting in pending. Another 36 hours and still sitting in pending.

Now, on a side note. I am not a regular poster, i read a lot of posts and have been for a while but im not sure who's who in terms of moderators of this forum etc... So please explain this to me like Im a 5 year old. It seems to me that everytime I post something nice and positive aboit 32red no one has an issue with it except a handfull of members here. But as soon as I vent about 32red, either you or Kasinoking call me on it. If this forum is biased I want to know about it because I don't want to be a member of it. Again, i didnt start this thread to blame anyone but myself. I was feeling hurt and needed to vent.
What is the problem with 8 pages of other members helping me cope with MY mistake??? Is this against the forum rules?

I for one think that this has been a useful thread, and its pointing out a obvious flaw in the responsible gambling much vaunted by online casinos. I also dont think that its a tirade against 32Red as there are worse sites out there for holding withdrawals in pending status, I think that the OP has held their hands up and admitted their mistake, has not tried to pass the blame to anyone else, but they are just pointing out how easy it is to do, and how tempting it can be for some players when they have had a good run, and the winnings are sitting there each tme they log in.

 

[dunover]

I think it would be fairly easy to create an application which could block any reverse withdrawal buttons on the casinos. You could leave it running on your taskbar and the only way to get rid of it would be to wait X amount of days. Similar to a NetNanny style program JUST for removing this reverse button option. Then as others have said, it is no longer an issue.

I may look into making such an application, I don't think it would be too difficult or time consuming to create if there was a genuine interest for it...

- T

Or maybe simpler would be a tool like the Casinomeister search bar (which to those of you that are familiar with it gives the rogue/accredited or safety status of any casinos you have in your browser) which is set up only with details of instant-12 hours' cashing-out casinos with weekend payments.

If the pending withdrawal is for may thousands it'd be more effective to unscrew your hard drive from your laptop, smash the laptop up and buy the same model when you've been paid. And take the SIM from your phone and do the same if necessary.

Sounds facetious? Well, I can think of at least one person here that will still be wishing they'd done just that and would have been 13k minus a few hundred quid better-off.

The rage the OP must be feeling, not just at their own weakness but at the casino in question, which they will perceive (rightly or wrongly) as 'laughing up their sleeve' at them.

P.S. Actually, a better idea (if in working hours) unscrew the hard drive, go to the Post Office and send it back to yourself second-class post. Removes the act of wrecking a good laptop, should've thought of that first..

 

[dunover]

Do my eyes deceive me, or am I reading a seven page thread because someone played their winnings back? This was not due to some roguish deception - or unethical bonus lures - it was because the player lacked the self discipline to walk away. No sympathies here.

I agree with KK, if you would have received this in your webwallet account (or wherever) you would have redeposited. So why are you blaming the casino for your loss?

Here's what I do: if I win big, I make a withdrawal of most of it, and leave a small percentage of it to play back - just for shits and giggles. When that is gone, I exit the casino and find something else to do. There is no one to blame here but yourself - don't play the victim card here.



Bullshit. They made the shortlist from input by the forum members (other than you), newsletter responses, and by the regular emails I get from people. There are a handful of disgruntled players who constantly berate 32Red because they no longer flush and have no weekend payment processing - you're one of them and I have made it clear to you personally that agenda laden posts will not be tolerated. Keep it up and see what happens.

It's already been explained why 32Red did this. It's here somewhere but I'm not going to spend my Saturday digging this up.

If you don't like 32Red, then don't play there.

With all due respect Bryan you can't prove a negative. It's conjecture at best. I have agreed (and still do) that the OP was weak, and as I said should therefore choose non-reversible sites. It's conjecture because we don't know the history of the OP. If they had a known history of problem gambling, yes I'd agree with you and KK. But this just might have been their first monster win, which put their emotions into unknown territory and screwed up their normal mode of thought.

I happily play at 32red and like many on here wait out the reverse period OK, all the time.

It still remains the truth that if 32red (and any other site) put the loaded gun in their players' hands, a significant number of them will shoot themselves with it. Like I said, it's for the benefit of the casino and absolutely, completely and utterly not for their players.

 

[Azzurri]

With all due respect Bryan you can't prove a negative. It's conjecture at best. I have agreed (and still do) that the OP was weak, and as I said should therefore choose non-reversible sites. It's conjecture because we don't know the history of the OP. If they had a known history of problem gambling, yes I'd agree with you and KK. But this just might have been their first monster win, which put their emotions into unknown territory and screwed up their normal mode of thought.

I happily play at 32red and like many on here wait out the reverse period OK, all the time.

It still remains the truth that if 32red (and any other site) put the loaded gun in their players' hands, a significant number of them will shoot themselves with it. Like I said, it's for the benefit of the casino and absolutely, completely and utterly not for their players.

Very well said.

 

[davdav5678]

Lol

I think they a lesson for the person to learn with this .To be honest its awful to loss such amounts self control self control is the answer . Get your self off the laptop take your self out for a walk for a few days in till the withdraw hits the bank .Run the battery down so you cant play on it lol get a safe and lock it up or stop gambling altogether (I think that's needed ) .I cant see the point of this thread you lost it .Why moan and blame the casino .Another thread which is pointless and just looking for sympathy from the CM .Hopefully some one will win some of your lost win and withdraw it and not put back into a casino .

Folk in thread time

 

[spintee]

Its funny how alot of banking systems work, I have had a few pending withdraws on sites and the cheeky beggers have took 1 withdraw out and left others in?

I used to play a hell of alot on bingocams as they got MG platform on there and I rarly see an error on them, Well every day withdraws was took out around 5;30pm, If I had a few pending withdraws by this time and I member once I quickly made another withdraw around that time, I looked around 2 mins later all withdraws was took out including the one I had sneaked in Even better they rolled all withdraws into one,

Now this is how it should be, Unfortunately I did stop depositing there as was no loyalty for the casino side of things.

If that is the case and a partial reversal re-starts the 24hr pending period then this is predatory behavior of the casino, which usually only happens at rogue outfits and should be reported to the LGA or UKGC.

I had similar things happening. One day i had 3 withdrawals pending totaling over 4K, lots of reversals and re-withdrawing in between and suddenly i received 100$ with the afternoon payment run into my Neteller account... why did they transfer only 100$ (that was actually my initial deposit on the day i made the first withdrawal)? Couldn't get an explanation.

Once i made the withdrawal just minutes after the deadline for it to be processed the next day. Sent an email to payments if they could still process it. Got a big NO, like what was i thinking, 24hr is the minimum. Yet their T&C's state usually about 24 hrs For me 23hrs 48mins is about 24hrs or am I wrong?

Yet 32RED is again nominated for the Casino Of The Year Award!!!!! How can that be? They cut some many player friendly features in the past 12 months that they certainly don't deserve it at all. And this slice-by-slice tactics they apply is just to cover it all up.

 

[dunover]

It's not a 'sympathy' thread but an old subject that rears it's ugly head quite regularly. It's not a 32red-bashfest either, as plenty of other accredited sites have 24hr+ pending periods.

It's the principle of it.

I take the point that all has been said that should be regarding this matter, and my final word?

Well, we always see in casino T&C's 'all deposits are final' or words to that effect.

Roll on the day the UKGC, Malta, Kannahwake, Gibraltar. Alderney and the IOM insist on their approved and regulated casinos having a nice simple player-friendly term:

"All withdrawals are final."

 

[Azzurri]

Lol

Why moan and blame the casino .Another thread which is pointless and just looking for sympathy from the CM .

This is pretty rude and inaccurate.

It would also seem the only person confused is yourself, as you have been following this so called 'pointless thread', and also thanked numerous posts that have made valid points.

So what is it? Pointless thread, or thread with valid points? Despite your most recent theory, which coincidentally came after Bryan's thoughts, it would seem your previous actions point to the later.

 

[mina888]

I have double the amount of what I won in available credits in my cc and in my bank but I won't deposit. I deposited $80 to take the 50% bonus as I was bored. I have no temptations to deposit until I feel bored again and see another dotd bonus. How many times do I have to say that I blame myself for my mistake? I surrendered. I turned a $77 in to 13k and thought I just cant lose. The bets kept going higher and higher...at one point up to $9 per spin.
I have won the past massive amounts. $45k at Ladbrokes and $17k jackpot from 32red. They were in my account 1-2 days later.

Would I come here and vent about 11k loss had I deposited that much? NEVER.

Lol

I think they a lesson for the person to learn with this .To be honest its awful to loss such amounts self control self control is the answer . Get your self off the laptop take your self out for a walk for a few days in till the withdraw hits the bank .Run the battery down so you cant play on it lol get a safe and lock it up or stop gambling altogether (I think that's needed ) .I cant see the point of this thread you lost it .Why moan and blame the casino .Another thread which is pointless and just looking for sympathy from the CM .Hopefully some one will win some of your lost win and withdraw it and not put back into a casino .

Folk in thread time

 

[Harry_BKK]

Bullshit. They made the shortlist from input by the forum members (other than you), newsletter responses, and by the regular emails I get from people. There are a handful of disgruntled players who constantly berate 32Red because they no longer flush and have no weekend payment processing - you're one of them and I have made it clear to you personally that agenda laden posts will not be tolerated. Keep it up and see what happens.

Does this mean that you don't include criticizing or negative input into the consideration when making the ranking?

I and others only stated factual information which in my view reduces the ranking of any casino. I would highlight the same shortcomings at any casino i am a regular player at, no matter what the name or size is. There is nothing agenda laden in my posts other then facts.

 

[Przecinek]

It would be nice if reversing a portion of your withdrawal would not "reset" the clock.

I agree 32red should get at least a slight downgrade in their score. Don't get me wrong I have nothing but praise for 32red but it does make sense to factor players feedback. Maybe I'm saying that especially now in the light of the EnergyCasino thread where people post how they went downstairs to grab a beer, only to come back and see their withdrawal already processed ;p


Edit: P.S I don't think thread title is appropriate. In my eyes player lost 4K "due to reverse withdrawals" not 11k ...all the extra winnings OP accumulated were a direct result of her reverse withdrawals which she did not plan to do in the first place. You don't have a fortune teller when playing slots. She could've experienced a downswing right from the start, when she had 8k or hypothetically with a 20k balance. Doesn't matter. "Sin" was commited at 4k mark, and this is the amount OP was hoping to get but failed to

 

[Finn]

Edit: P.S I don't think thread title is appropriate. In my eyes player lost 4K "due to reverse withdrawals" not 11k ...all the extra winnings OP accumulated were a direct result of her reverse withdrawals which she did not plan to do in the first place. You don't have a fortune teller when playing slots. She could've experienced a downswing right from the start, when she had 8k or hypothetically with a 20k balance. Doesn't matter. "Sin" was commited at 4k mark, and this is the amount OP was hoping to get but failed to

OP said that eventually he cashed out 2k. So I would say that if he wants to put it that way, he should say that he lost 2k, since at the time of first withdrawal he withdrew 4k, and after all the reversals and initial winnings and later losses, he withdrew 2k, which has already been apparently processed, and he can't reverse that anymore.

 

[dunover]

Does this mean that you don't include criticizing or negative input into the consideration when making the ranking?

I and others only stated factual information which in my view reduces the ranking of any casino. I would highlight the same shortcomings at any casino i am a regular player at, no matter what the name or size is. There is nothing agenda laden in my posts other then facts.

The rankings are unbiased in that they all follow the same scale and criteria, i.e. points for a good LGA like the UKGC or Kannahwake, for responsible gaming, software, cash-outs, handling of complaints etc. There is a link in which Bryan explains the scoring if you go to the scores page. 32red HAVE lost points if you know the history of the 9+ casinos here. That they were so far ahead to start with is why despite even recent changes they are still at 9+.

As for annual awards, all CAG members get to vote on some awards. Their vote is not influenced, there is no horse-trading behind the scenes. They may or may not qualify to other CM CAGs why they voted the way they did. They make up their own minds, and doubtless take into account the facts that become known during the year plus the opinions of the members on the forum, and may form a general consensus in their mind based on that.
How other CAGs vote is only known to CM admin and not to each other, unless they choose to share it later. Nobody PM's you to encourage your choice, it's all private.

So yes, 32red have lost out on their score. And maybe this will result in them losing an award this year, who knows? Wait and see the results due in the not-too distant future.

 

[The Dude]

Okay - I changed the title back - you guys never give me a break - not even on a Saturday.

@ Dunover - I know you can't prove a negative - that was only my opinion at the mo'.

Please continue.

 

[Harry_BKK]

The rankings are unbiased in that they all follow the same scale and criteria, i.e. points for a good LGA like the UKGC or Kannahwake, for responsible gaming, software, cash-outs, handling of complaints etc. There is a link in which Bryan explains the scoring if you go to the scores page. 32red HAVE lost points if you know the history of the 9+ casinos here. That they were so far ahead to start with is why despite even recent changes they are still at 9+.

As for annual awards, all CAG members get to vote on some awards. Their vote is not influenced, there is no horse-trading behind the scenes. They may or may not qualify to other CM CAGs why they voted the way they did. They make up their own minds, and doubtless take into account the facts that become known during the year plus the opinions of the members on the forum, and may form a general consensus in their mind based on that.
How other CAGs vote is only known to CM admin and not to each other, unless they choose to share it later. Nobody PM's you to encourage your choice, it's all private.

So yes, 32red have lost out on their score. And maybe this will result in them losing an award this year, who knows? Wait and see the results due in the not-too distant future.

Thanks for the explanation, really appreciate it. I have not seen a reduction though for 32RED for implementing pending periods and stopping manual flushing. I might be wrong there as i have not observed the ranking value when i joined this forum, which was around the time they introduced the latest changes.

 

[dunover]

Okay - I changed the title back - you guys never give me a break - not even on a Saturday.

@ Dunover - I know you can't prove a negative - that was only my opinion at the mo'.

Please continue.

Point taken. It seems that since you said that, and I replied, the OP has added to the thread something that may compound your opinion anyway. In fact I'm tired of this now anyway. Just summarize the whole thing by saying reverse periods are undoubtedly unpopular.
I need a pint.

 

[KasinoKing]

Now, on a side note. I am not a regular poster, i read a lot of posts and have been for a while but im not sure who's who in terms of moderators of this forum etc... So please explain this to me like Im a 5 year old. It seems to me that everytime I post something nice and positive aboit 32red no one has an issue with it except a handfull of members here. But as soon as I vent about 32red, either you or Kasinoking call me on it. If this forum is biased I want to know about it because I don't want to be a member of it. Again, i didnt start this thread to blame anyone but myself. I was feeling hurt and needed to vent.

The fact that it was at 32Red has nothing to do with it - that's by the by. I would have posted the exact same opinion about any casino, from the very best to the worst rogue. And I'm pretty sure the same applies to CM himself.
OK, maybe my opinion was wrong - even I make mistakes sometimes!

I don't know why it is, but threads about certain casinos always seem to explode into a massive discussion, often about not a lot at the end of the day.
32Red are one of those "victims", as are 3Dice, the Virtual Group and a few others.

Re the 4 moderators: CasinoMeister is obviously the Big Boss and owner of the forum. Maxd is the "PAB guy" and the next most active moderator.
Simmo and Webzcas tend to lurk more than act - but they are there keeping watch when the other two aren't about
I'm just a normal member: Online casino player since 2001, webmaster since 2005 and member of this forum since 2004. In that time I have built up to the top tier of membership here (like many others), but I'm not a moderator.

KK

 

[davdav5678]

This is pretty rude and inaccurate.

It would also seem the only person confused is yourself, as you have been following this so called 'pointless thread', and also thanked numerous posts that have made valid points.

So what is it? Pointless thread, or thread with valid points? Despite your most recent theory, which coincidentally came after Bryan's thoughts, it would seem your previous actions point to the later.

Lol ok what ever I was thanking the post as they are helpful in points . Who I thanks and who not got nothing to do with you either . Byans's ? not sure what you are getting at to be honest .Thanks

 

[davdav5678]

I have double the amount of what I won in available credits in my cc and in my bank but I won't deposit. I deposited $80 to take the 50% bonus as I was bored. I have no temptations to deposit until I feel bored again and see another dotd bonus. How many times do I have to say that I blame myself for my mistake? I surrendered. I turned a $77 in to 13k and thought I just cant lose. The bets kept going higher and higher...at one point up to $9 per spin.
I have won the past massive amounts. $45k at Ladbrokes and $17k jackpot from 32red. They were in my account 1-2 days later.

Would I come here and vent about 11k loss had I deposited that much? NEVER.

What the point of it then to moan about 32 red pending time ,What did you do with the 45k put it back on ?

 

[Azzurri]

Lol ok what ever I was thanking the post as they are helpful in points . Who I thanks and who not got nothing to do with you either . Byans's ? not sure what you are getting at to be honest .Thanks

Ok mate, but you still seem to be confused.

Thanking 'helpful points' in a 'pointless thread' is contradicting yourself.

And I couldn't care less who you thank, but when you start behaving in a contradictory manner within the one thread, it does become relevant to the discussion we're trying to have, hence it does have a little to do with me as I am part of the discussion.

I'm not sure what you are getting at either to be honest, but I guess that is the defining nature of a contradiction.

Thanks.

 

[davdav5678]

Ok mate, but you still seem to be confused.

Thanking 'helpful points' in a 'pointless thread' is contradicting yourself.

And I couldn't care less who you thank, but when you start behaving in a contradictory manner within the one thread, it does become relevant to the discussion we're trying to have, hence it does have a little to do with me as I am part of the discussion.

I'm not sure what you are getting at either to be honest, but I guess that is the defining nature of a contradiction.

Thanks.

If you look at the first post I wrote I said yes he must feel gutted about losing such a massive amount of money in which it is . The point I was getting at and as many of these threads go and get out of hand . I don't think I was to be honest as you put it "contradictory manner " . So he lost a good win .That goes hand in hand if you get greedy and want more win's And reverse your win its a gamble of course and I cant see any points this thread has raised apart from moaning on and on about the pending new 24 hours waiting period to wait for cash . As some one else put it , You all know the 24 hours pending in place so if you don't like it play somewhere else .

 

[Finn]

Thanks for the explanation, really appreciate it. I have not seen a reduction though for 32RED for implementing pending periods and stopping manual flushing. I might be wrong there as i have not observed the ranking value when i joined this forum, which was around the time they introduced the latest changes.

Until December 19th, 2014 32Red was ranked first with score of 9.4.

Now they are ranked on shared 5th place with 3 other casinos with score of 9.1

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[Azzurri]

If you look at the first post I wrote I said yes he must feel gutted about losing such a massive amount of money in which it is . The point I was getting at and as many of these threads go and get out of hand . I don't think I was to be honest as you put it "contradictory manner " . So he lost a good win .That goes hand in hand if you get greedy and want more win's And reverse your win its a gamble of course and I cant see any points this thread has raised apart from moaning on and on about the pending new 24 hours waiting period to wait for cash . As some one else put it , You all know the 24 hours pending in place so if you don't like it play somewhere else .

Ok mate.

She wasn't moaning on and on about the 24hr pending period either. She clearly stated she was at fault, but she also wasn't aware that the pending period restarts each time she made a reverse withdrawal, hence the temptation was that much greater for her, as the withdrawals were pending for up to 6 days, which even for pending periods is a concerning amount of time.

The OP also hasn't gone 'on and on' about it as you say, more so we the other members here have prolonged the discussion. The only other times I can see that the OP has had to mention her story again regarding the pending issue, is to clarify her story to those members who have responded in a negative manner. Like yourself.

Had this thread not been started, I for one wouldn't have had any idea about the pending periods restarting after reverse withdrawals, so I, along with many others by the looks of things, would regard this thread as quite informative, and far from pointless. This thread has served the purpose of why this forum serves to exist in the first place. To educate and help all members.

Sorry if you don't see it that way, but instead of adding to any negativity by trying to make the OP feel worse than they already probably do, maybe try to look at the positives that can come from this tale, or simply don't say anything that isn't constructive to the discussion.

Thanks, lol.

 

[davdav5678]

Ok mate.

She wasn't moaning on and on about the 24hr pending period either. She clearly stated she was at fault, but she also wasn't aware that the pending period restarts each time she made a reverse withdrawal, hence the temptation was that much greater for her, as the withdrawals were pending for up to 6 days, which even for pending periods is a concerning amount of time.

The OP also hasn't gone 'on and on' about it as you say, more so we the other members here have prolonged the discussion. The only other times I can see that the OP has had to mention her story again regarding the pending issue, is to clarify her story to those members who have responded in a negative manner. Like yourself.

Had this thread not been started, I for one wouldn't have had any idea about the pending periods restarting after reverse withdrawals, so I, along with many others by the looks of things, would regard this thread as quite informative, and far from pointless. This thread has served the purpose of why this forum serves to exist in the first place. To educate and help all members.

Sorry if you don't see it that way, but instead of adding to any negativity by trying to make the OP feel worse than they already probably do, maybe try to look at the positives that can come from this tale, or simply don't say anything that isn't constructive to the discussion.

Thanks, lol.

(Sorry I thought the op was a bloke lol ) Yes she said she was at fault and I agree this forum is good for people expressing their views .I was not being negative at all . I was just saying why reverse in the first place and baby people when they lose . I not experiences the clock resetting from reverses but then again I don't make any at all if I'm lucky to win something and be happy with it . Well a lesson learned

I just spoke to 32 red and this is what they told me

: Once you have requested a withdrawal, it will show as pending until processed, usually around 24hrs after the request during UK banking hours (9am to 5pm Monday to Friday). Withdrawal requests outside of UK banking hours will show as pending until the next banking day.
Me: ok

You only need to wait the 24 hours if you reverse it won't effect the time of the withdrawal
Me: ok great you mind if I copy that

So I think you are wrong with saying the clock resets

 

[Azzurri]

(Sorry I thought the op was a bloke lol ) Yes she said she was at fault and I agree this forum is good for people expressing their views .I was not being negative at all . I was just saying why reverse in the first place and baby people when they lose . I not experiences the clock resetting from reverses but then again I don't make any at all if I'm lucky to win something and be happy with it . Well a lesson learned

I just spoke to 32 red and this is what they told me

: Once you have requested a withdrawal, it will show as pending until processed, usually around 24hrs after the request during UK banking hours (9am to 5pm Monday to Friday). Withdrawal requests outside of UK banking hours will show as pending until the next banking day.
Me: ok

You only need to wait the 24 hours if you reverse it won't effect the time of the withdrawal
Me: ok great you mind if I copy that

So I think you are wrong with saying the clock resets

Welcome to the discussion!

Well it would seem there's some discrepancies between what CS told you, and what others have stated in this thread regarding the effects reversals have on pending times.

Your information only now heightens the curiosity as to why the OP's pending period went on for 6 days. Did I miss that explanation earlier in the thread?

Hopefully this now convinces you that this thread isn't just about the OP's story, or pointless, but is serving a purpose to understand and clarify the certain inner workings of these dreaded pending periods. Yes it is easy to say 'if you don't like them play elsewhere', but if someone likes the casino for all it's other pros, and can use will power to overcome any temptation to reverse, then at the very least we can clarify any misinformation that may be coming through from member's own experiences.

And just for the record, I can't be wrong, because I never stated the clock resets, I was merely repeating the information given in this thread by the OP.

Thanks.

 

[davdav5678]

Welcome to the discussion!

Well it would seem there's some discrepancies between what CS told you, and what others have stated in this thread regarding the effects reversals have on pending times.

Your information only now heightens the curiosity as to why the OP's pending period went on for 6 days. Did I miss that explanation earlier in the thread?

Hopefully this now convinces you that this thread isn't just about the OP's story, or pointless, but is serving a purpose to understand and clarify the certain inner workings of these dreaded pending periods. Yes it is easy to say 'if you don't like them play elsewhere', but if someone likes the casino for all it's other pros, and can use will power to overcome any temptation to reverse, then at the very least we can clarify any misinformation that may be coming through from member's own experiences.

And just for the record, I can't be wrong, because I never stated the clock resets, I was merely repeating the information given in this thread by the OP.

Thanks.

The information's I was given is correct from 32 red and I have never experienced such long wait for a withdraw from them ever seen I played there. They have always paid within the time frame and always on time they said .There are reps on here Mark and Jon players support manger and I'm sure they can tell her the reason if it was 6 days pending period .Maybe it would be best for her to do that before posting what it may not be correct .

Have a nice weekend

 

[nisosbar]

If the pending withdrawal is for may thousands it'd be more effective to unscrew your hard drive from your laptop, smash the laptop up and buy the same model when you've been paid. And take the SIM from your phone and do the same if necessary.

Sounds facetious? Well, I can think of at least one person here that will still be wishing they'd done just that and would have been 13k minus a few hundred quid better-off.

The rage the OP must be feeling, not just at their own weakness but at the casino in question, which they will perceive (rightly or wrongly) as 'laughing up their sleeve' at them.

P.S. Actually, a better idea (if in working hours) unscrew the hard drive, go to the Post Office and send it back to yourself second-class post. Removes the act of wrecking a good laptop, should've thought of that first..

To be honest, I've entertained seriously this idea in the past, lol - exactly as you say, if you somehow disable your laptop permanently, you're out only a couple hundred. Play back your winnings, and you're out a fair multiple of that. Which sounds better.