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Long time no see - glad to have you here
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Jackpot Factory's Inspirational Stories
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I'm speechless. It is exactly these type of scandals that will lead to knee-jerk reaction by U.S. politicians. JPF has provided crucial fodder to anti-gambling forces. Dumbasses.
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AceMan76 said:
Nice to see another poster gets the "big picture".
Pinababy said: "And why in the hell were they written in the first place?" and she is absolutely on the mark.
What reputable company would possibly consider screwing around with this sort of crap under any circumstances????
Surely an outsourced company was not given carte blanche to come up with this junk and then use it, all without the approval at any stage of even a reasonably senior manager at the casino?
What reputable company would possibly consider screwing around with this sort of crap under any circumstances????
Surely an outsourced company was not given carte blanche to come up with this junk and then use it, all without the approval at any stage of even a reasonably senior manager at the casino?
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Still some out there on www.bigflashcasino.com (part of All Jackpots)
"Flash Blackjack saves Joseph from certain death"
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"Curing cancer with the flash casino"
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plenty more on this site on Google:
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"Flash Blackjack saves Joseph from certain death"
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"Curing cancer with the flash casino"
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plenty more on this site on Google:
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The Cycle is Complete
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Read why Charlotte checked out flash casino slots
Charlotte really did need to leave Steve. They were in a subtly verbally abusive relationship and even though they were married with kids, Charlotte just could not live like this anymore. But she was stuck financially. It was lucky then, that I stepped in and introduced her to flash casino slots. But I have never gambled before, she protested. I know, I replied and I understand that, but playing flash casino slots is something completely different and even a non-accustomed gambler can win flash casino slots, I explained. Since Charlotte by her own admission was desperate, so decided that she would check out flash casino slots.
Escape and make money with flash casino slots
Charlotte had the best time ever with flash casino slots. Thank you so much, she said to me at the end of her first flash casino slots session. Not only did I feel like I was able to completely escape and forget all my worries while playing these cool flash casino slots, she explained, but when I saw the money in my NETELLER account, I knew immediately that I would be able to leave Steve that day, which is exactly what I did. Now my kids and I are set up in a great place, far away from Steve and thanks to these cool flash casino slots I can stay home with them all day AND still make way more than enough money than we need!
So they have now added women in abusive relationships to their "target list". Too angry for words.
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Read why Charlotte checked out flash casino slots
Charlotte really did need to leave Steve. They were in a subtly verbally abusive relationship and even though they were married with kids, Charlotte just could not live like this anymore. But she was stuck financially. It was lucky then, that I stepped in and introduced her to flash casino slots. But I have never gambled before, she protested. I know, I replied and I understand that, but playing flash casino slots is something completely different and even a non-accustomed gambler can win flash casino slots, I explained. Since Charlotte by her own admission was desperate, so decided that she would check out flash casino slots.
Escape and make money with flash casino slots
Charlotte had the best time ever with flash casino slots. Thank you so much, she said to me at the end of her first flash casino slots session. Not only did I feel like I was able to completely escape and forget all my worries while playing these cool flash casino slots, she explained, but when I saw the money in my NETELLER account, I knew immediately that I would be able to leave Steve that day, which is exactly what I did. Now my kids and I are set up in a great place, far away from Steve and thanks to these cool flash casino slots I can stay home with them all day AND still make way more than enough money than we need!
So they have now added women in abusive relationships to their "target list". Too angry for words.
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*sighs* having been in an abusive relationship, this just angers me beyond words. Right, that's all I needed to do, play online slots to get away from him. I DID gamble while I was with him, and guess where it got me? Further in debt! WTF are these idiots thinking?!
Coffin sealed, there's no going back now. :sniper:
Coffin sealed, there's no going back now. :sniper:
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I think what bothers me the most in these adverts or search engine optimization statements are that they aren't geared towards players who are respectable or are in a financial situation with which to throw away money on a chance to win.
They are aimed specifically at a group of people who CANNOT afford to gamble at all.
They offer false hope, pretenses, dreams and problem solving in a definitive manner to people who are susceptible to irresponsible gaming.
The adverts weren't seo for normal people. They were aimed directly at people who should not gamble, probably cannot afford to gamble and have problems with gambling.
One poster hit my feelings dead on with the quote about how politicians who are anti-gambling will take this lack of responsibility and run with it.
How someone could even think this was acceptable at any level - puts the advertising at the same level as drug dealing and sleaze pornography - quite possibly even child pornography.
People going through problems (emotionally, mentally, physically or in their personal lives and finances) should NOT be gambling.
For the company to blanket approve the usage of "DREAMS FULFILLED" to those specific groups and identifying those groups by specifically stating that the person "had/has the same types of problems" gives the person looking at it "permission" to act irresponsibly. And some people just can't discern between right and wrong in this world.
Advertising and Marketing in the Casino industry must be more responsible than that.
They - by doing this advertisement campaign or search engine optimization have just given politicians the fuel to knock out the Industry in the US.
Again... I repeat....
THE ONLY WAY I would EVER CONSIDER PROMOTING JPF or anything they have touched is a PUBLIC APOLOGY and pulling of every single one of those adverts... AND... A HUGE (I mean HUGE) donation to Gamblers Anonymous for those who may have fallen - if not with JPF - but with ANY online Casino because they lost the will to not gamble - or "believed" they too, could win... because of those adverts.
Don't think that the people reading those don't have addictions that these won't trigger. Read them carefully. They are psychologically aimed at problem gamblers or people who are down on their luck.
I meant to add specifically - that these adverts were totally a psychological jab at people who are unable to protect themselves. Not just some random SEO issue, in my opinion. More like a heavy duty study and Marketing ploy - not caring about the damage that occurs afterwards - just wanting the money. VERY SLEAZY!
To me this will cause this trickledown:
A) Players playing who cannot afford to
B) Chargebacks to the extreme
C) People comitting crimes in order to play or pay off the bills
D) Banks causing an uproar
E) People lost in a quagmire of bills unable to get out from underneath it - causing possible depression and perhaps suicidal thoughts, actions.
F) Lawyers getting involved - Legal Issues
G) Legal Issues becoming part of the Political Issues
H) Politicians having case in point Definitions to make Gaming Online illegal
I) Pissing me off
OK. I'll go back to being quiet
- but yeah.
This one struck such a nerve because of the political issue side and because of the damage that will continue to ripple through the gaming industry with problem players because of the idiocy.
Meki
(Wager Witch)
They are aimed specifically at a group of people who CANNOT afford to gamble at all.
They offer false hope, pretenses, dreams and problem solving in a definitive manner to people who are susceptible to irresponsible gaming.
The adverts weren't seo for normal people. They were aimed directly at people who should not gamble, probably cannot afford to gamble and have problems with gambling.
One poster hit my feelings dead on with the quote about how politicians who are anti-gambling will take this lack of responsibility and run with it.
How someone could even think this was acceptable at any level - puts the advertising at the same level as drug dealing and sleaze pornography - quite possibly even child pornography.
People going through problems (emotionally, mentally, physically or in their personal lives and finances) should NOT be gambling.
For the company to blanket approve the usage of "DREAMS FULFILLED" to those specific groups and identifying those groups by specifically stating that the person "had/has the same types of problems" gives the person looking at it "permission" to act irresponsibly. And some people just can't discern between right and wrong in this world.
Advertising and Marketing in the Casino industry must be more responsible than that.
They - by doing this advertisement campaign or search engine optimization have just given politicians the fuel to knock out the Industry in the US.
Again... I repeat....
THE ONLY WAY I would EVER CONSIDER PROMOTING JPF or anything they have touched is a PUBLIC APOLOGY and pulling of every single one of those adverts... AND... A HUGE (I mean HUGE) donation to Gamblers Anonymous for those who may have fallen - if not with JPF - but with ANY online Casino because they lost the will to not gamble - or "believed" they too, could win... because of those adverts.
Don't think that the people reading those don't have addictions that these won't trigger. Read them carefully. They are psychologically aimed at problem gamblers or people who are down on their luck.
I meant to add specifically - that these adverts were totally a psychological jab at people who are unable to protect themselves. Not just some random SEO issue, in my opinion. More like a heavy duty study and Marketing ploy - not caring about the damage that occurs afterwards - just wanting the money. VERY SLEAZY!
To me this will cause this trickledown:
A) Players playing who cannot afford to
B) Chargebacks to the extreme
C) People comitting crimes in order to play or pay off the bills
D) Banks causing an uproar
E) People lost in a quagmire of bills unable to get out from underneath it - causing possible depression and perhaps suicidal thoughts, actions.
F) Lawyers getting involved - Legal Issues
G) Legal Issues becoming part of the Political Issues
H) Politicians having case in point Definitions to make Gaming Online illegal
I) Pissing me off
OK. I'll go back to being quiet
- but yeah. This one struck such a nerve because of the political issue side and because of the damage that will continue to ripple through the gaming industry with problem players because of the idiocy.
Meki
(Wager Witch)
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Just found this on another site which heavily promotes JF.
Thanks to online casino slot machines my aunt can leave her husband
My aunt had married a bad penny as my mom was wont to say. He was cruel and abusive. But because she had so much tied up with him, it was becoming almost impossible for her to leave. The only way she could possibly make enough cash was through gambling, but that was problematic too because she could not leave the house all that often as she had to look after her children. One day, I happened to be playing online casino slot machines. I had never played online casino slot machines because I was not a keen gambler so I was just playing online casino slot machines for a laugh. Well, I certainly got that! I was making money from online casino slot machines. I had to tell my aunt about it.
How my aunt benefits financially from online casino slot machines
That night I called up my aunt. Play online casino slot machines Laura, I said. I just made $2,000 on online casino slot machines, I told her and I did not have to leave my house, I added. When I explained how easy it was to make the bucks from online casino slot machines she said, I have to go now; the online casino slot machines are waiting for me. That was three months ago. She kicked my uncle out, bought the house off of him and now has full time help with the kids!
This is the link.
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Is there any way to tell if this is just a straight affiliate site? Or in some way tied to JF? Seems a little too coincidental that a straight aff site has loads of the same sort of stories as JF themselves. Unless, they copied them off of JF...or, God forbid, this is run by the same person they "outsourced" their SEO campaign to. Just curious about this.
Thanks to online casino slot machines my aunt can leave her husband
My aunt had married a bad penny as my mom was wont to say. He was cruel and abusive. But because she had so much tied up with him, it was becoming almost impossible for her to leave. The only way she could possibly make enough cash was through gambling, but that was problematic too because she could not leave the house all that often as she had to look after her children. One day, I happened to be playing online casino slot machines. I had never played online casino slot machines because I was not a keen gambler so I was just playing online casino slot machines for a laugh. Well, I certainly got that! I was making money from online casino slot machines. I had to tell my aunt about it.
How my aunt benefits financially from online casino slot machines
That night I called up my aunt. Play online casino slot machines Laura, I said. I just made $2,000 on online casino slot machines, I told her and I did not have to leave my house, I added. When I explained how easy it was to make the bucks from online casino slot machines she said, I have to go now; the online casino slot machines are waiting for me. That was three months ago. She kicked my uncle out, bought the house off of him and now has full time help with the kids!
This is the link.
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Is there any way to tell if this is just a straight affiliate site? Or in some way tied to JF? Seems a little too coincidental that a straight aff site has loads of the same sort of stories as JF themselves. Unless, they copied them off of JF...or, God forbid, this is run by the same person they "outsourced" their SEO campaign to. Just curious about this.
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Hmmm....registered to a company call Spinspark Ltd., located in the Isle of Man. I'd like to know a little more about them, specifically if they are any part of Jackpot Factory.
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Jackpot Factory Makes Me Sick
The sad thing is that the Jackpot Factory does prey on people who are in these situations. I hope they go under for doing this. They don't care about responsible gaming. They have no morals, ethics and certainly are not trustworthy. The bottom line for them is only the money, to hell with whose life they destroy getting it. Also, its really sad that it appears that the Kahnawake allow this.
The sad thing is that the Jackpot Factory does prey on people who are in these situations. I hope they go under for doing this. They don't care about responsible gaming. They have no morals, ethics and certainly are not trustworthy. The bottom line for them is only the money, to hell with whose life they destroy getting it. Also, its really sad that it appears that the Kahnawake allow this.
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Actually, upon further looking over that site, it seems that the ONLY casinos represented there are JF. And the banners do not carry an affiliate tag, so one can only conclude that the site is owned/operated by JF (by a subsidiary maybe)? Does that make sense?
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Jackpot Factory
Yes, it makes sense. Do you really think that the Jackpot Factory wants these stories to go away. The stories are making them money preying on these individuals.
Yes, it makes sense. Do you really think that the Jackpot Factory wants these stories to go away. The stories are making them money preying on these individuals.
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Pinababy69 said:
A bit of research found me this:
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Fifth down, "Homebased Writers - KW Articles"
I quote...
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"The position involves writing short articles (200-250 words) in English about anything while using a specific set of predetermined key words. These short stories are much like a creative writing exercise, but they need to repeat a specific phrase 6 to 12 times in each article. Each article will be based on different key words.
Currently, the articles will be written around gambling related keywords. The work involved is for a client of ours that manages the marketing for a large and fully licensed online gaming network.
Suitable for people with spare time and lots of creativity.
Articles must be unique, well written, and upbeat. Pay is 20-30 NIS per hour, depending on speed. Work from home as an independent contractor.
Email and internet access necessary (or at least ability to access
internet once a week).
Students and stay-at-home mothers encouraged to apply. (As long as they're not too busy losing all their money online - Slotster)
All applicants will be given a sample writing assignment which should take no more than 20 minutes to complete.
Please respond to [email protected], with "KW Articles" in subject line.
Thanks,
Boaz Sasson
Content Manager
SpinSpark
mailto: [email protected]
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Mystery solved it seems...
...Although it's inexcusable that Jackpot Factory could ever allow this to go live/happen. Period.
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Ooh...
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And busted...
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Slotster! said:
So I take this to mean that anyone could make money writing this trash in their spare time? And this is the high quality of marketing employess that Jackpot Factory uses?
This just gets better. Allow someone with little or no experience in the industry to write any old thing, and then allow it to be uploaded onto your company's servers. Wow!! If I'm reading this right.
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They are history
Ok they are completely history on my sites for ever, no chance of coming back ever!
http://www.domaintools.com/reverse-ip/?hostname=casino--gambling.us
These are the list of sites hosted on the same server.
They are owned by Spiral Solutions
http://whois.domaintools.com/bigflashcasino.com
I swallow every single word I ever spoke to bring any doubts that they might not intended this content. I can't believe this! These guys are scum! Scum I tell you! They are history.
Ok they are completely history on my sites for ever, no chance of coming back ever!
http://www.domaintools.com/reverse-ip/?hostname=casino--gambling.us
These are the list of sites hosted on the same server.
They are owned by Spiral Solutions
http://whois.domaintools.com/bigflashcasino.com
I swallow every single word I ever spoke to bring any doubts that they might not intended this content. I can't believe this! These guys are scum! Scum I tell you! They are history.
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Slotster! said:
I really want to see the sample.
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Chatmaster... 
This is going to get better as the day goes on, I'm pretty sure. I want to see them do damage control on this.
This is going to get better as the day goes on, I'm pretty sure. I want to see them do damage control on this.
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Scooter7 said:
To: Job Applicant
From: Boaz Sassoon ("Vidal" to his friends)
Subject: Writing Sample
Dear Sir
Further to your recent application, please complete the following assignment in no more than twenty minutes.
You are required to write a brief story, about a one legged cross eyed leprosy sufferer who likes to play at All Slots casino. The more morally abhorrent and offensive the better.
It's important that whilst at the beginning of the story the main character seemingly has nowhere to turn, the introduction of All Slots casino should turn the characters life around and make everything better in the world and happy and rosy!
Please note: Extra credit will be given for indicating how playing at online casino's can prevent bankruptcy, unhappiness, criminal activity and death.
Good luck!
Boaz
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I've run out of adjectives to describe this whole thing. 
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Alright, after cooling allot. Here is my facts I am pressenting.
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Read the other crap on there as well!
http://www.domaintools.com/reverse-ip/?hostname=casino--gambling.us
Sites hosted on the same server
Google search for 'Spinspark' gives the following info.
Article deliver the following domains
http://whois.domaintools.com/jackpot.com
AND
By all means who???
http://whois.domaintools.com/jackpotradio.com
egistrant:
Spiral Solutions Ltd.
PO Box 10, Bar Lev Building
Misgav, NA 10079
IL
972 4 9554020
Fax:972 4 955 3040
I believe that is concrete evidence that this company has definately been doing this on purpouse.
For those who wants to read a bit
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Sorry guys this is really lame!
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Read the other crap on there as well!
http://www.domaintools.com/reverse-ip/?hostname=casino--gambling.us
Sites hosted on the same server
Google search for 'Spinspark' gives the following info.
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Article deliver the following domains
http://whois.domaintools.com/jackpot.com
AND
By all means who???
http://whois.domaintools.com/jackpotradio.com
egistrant:
Spiral Solutions Ltd.
PO Box 10, Bar Lev Building
Misgav, NA 10079
IL
972 4 9554020
Fax:972 4 955 3040
I believe that is concrete evidence that this company has definately been doing this on purpouse.
For those who wants to read a bit
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Sorry guys this is really lame!
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Chatmaster said:
List of all 20 sites.... let's see how fast they can get these down. Check out #19, the good old Keno site that's been mentioned more than once and absolutely saturated with this garbage.
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8. casino--gambling.us 0 listings 0 listings
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12. crapsgambling.info 0 listings 0 listings
13. first-video-poker.net 0 listings 0 listings
14. freecasinoslotonline.com 0 listings 0 listings
15. gambling-online.ws 0 listings 0 listings
16. internet--baccarat.com 0 listings 0 listings
17. learninghowtoplaycasinogames.com 0 listings 0 listings
18. megacasinos.com 0 listings 0 listings
19. online--keno.com 0 listings 0 listings
20. online-casinogambling.net 0 listings 0 listings
21. thetexas-attorneys.com
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Absolutely no doubt in my mind that this was an intentional SEO campaign, set up and okayed by Jackpot Factory. I'm going to let Spearmaster tie it all together. He's much more eloquent than I am... 
Thanks again Chatmaster!! Glad to see that some are starting to "get it".
Thanks again Chatmaster!! Glad to see that some are starting to "get it".
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Read my previous post. Spinspark Ltd ---> Jackpotradio (Owned by Spiral Solutions) same guys own JF 
http://www.whois.sc/jackpotfactory.com
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Ethel is a senior citizen who is serious about her gambling. When she was younger she could be always be found at a horse track, at a black jack table, or with a deck of cards in her hands. Now that her body has become less mobile in the past few years, Ethel needs to find a new way to gamble. Thanks to the state of the art technology today, Ethel can play all types of casino games at casinos online. Casinos online give Ethel the opportunity to use the skills that she has acquired over the decades of her life and reap the benefits. Casinos online have all sorts of games, including poker, black jack, and even slot machines that make Ethel's blood pump fast. There are even new games that the casinos online offer that Ethel can try out and see if she likes them just as much as the classics.
Casinos Online Give Satisfaction
Casinos online have been a life saver for Ethel. Before she knew about them she thought that all her happiness in life was over. After she discovered the casinos online she realized that there was life for her even though her body was giving way. Casinos online have been making Ethel happy the last couple years, the same way that gambling has made her happy her whole life long.
Just one more sample. Tell us again Jackpot Factory how ALL the offending content has been taken down.
I gotcha Chatmaster, just wanted to make sure that EVERYONE gets it.
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Ethel is a senior citizen who is serious about her gambling. When she was younger she could be always be found at a horse track, at a black jack table, or with a deck of cards in her hands. Now that her body has become less mobile in the past few years, Ethel needs to find a new way to gamble. Thanks to the state of the art technology today, Ethel can play all types of casino games at casinos online. Casinos online give Ethel the opportunity to use the skills that she has acquired over the decades of her life and reap the benefits. Casinos online have all sorts of games, including poker, black jack, and even slot machines that make Ethel's blood pump fast. There are even new games that the casinos online offer that Ethel can try out and see if she likes them just as much as the classics.
Casinos Online Give Satisfaction
Casinos online have been a life saver for Ethel. Before she knew about them she thought that all her happiness in life was over. After she discovered the casinos online she realized that there was life for her even though her body was giving way. Casinos online have been making Ethel happy the last couple years, the same way that gambling has made her happy her whole life long.
Just one more sample. Tell us again Jackpot Factory how ALL the offending content has been taken down.
I gotcha Chatmaster, just wanted to make sure that EVERYONE gets it.
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Yep, I agree fully. The odd text descriptions and deliberate casino keyword loading is so clearly visible. Seemingly done by an amature though...Pinababy69 said:Absolutely no doubt in my mind that this was an intentional SEO campaign, set up and okayed by Jackpot Factory. I'm going to let Spearmaster tie it all together. He's much more eloquent than I am...
Thanks again Chatmaster!! Glad to see that some are starting to "get it".
Lol. I "get it"
Question:
Is Microgaming aware of this conduct by one of their operators?.........?
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Chatmaster said:
Good question. That task will have to be left to someone with an ear there. God, so busted.... good choice of terminology Slotster.
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Slotster! said:
Brilliant, does this forum rock or what!
Mitch
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jetset said:
And Slotster!!
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Slotster! said:
Threads: 11,873, Posts: 105,991, Members: 7,044
Welcome to our newest member, boaz
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Pinababy69 said:
About you:
I was part of the JF SEO team
Occupation:
seochology
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mucullus said:About you:
I was part of the JF SEO team
Occupation:
seochology
Unless that's a typo, that past tense use could be interesting. My own opinion, let's give the guy a chance, or at least leave him alone for now.
GrandMaster
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It would be useful to know who own Spiral Solutions, because Spiral is very closely involved with Microgaming, various casinos, affiliate programmes, Proc-Cyber, etc. The website only says "Spiral Solutions Ltd. was established in 1999 and is a privately owned company with corporate headquarters located in Misgav Israel and satellite offices in New Jersey & Boston, USA and IJsselstein (UT), The Netherlands."Chatmaster said:Read my previous post. Spinspark Ltd ---> Jackpotradio (Owned by Spiral Solutions) same guys own JF
http://www.whois.sc/jackpotfactory.com
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Spiralling out of control
When we had the Viper Bug last year that lead to All Slots continually downloading games while opening, I traced the "Microgaming Upgrade server" that was firing these CAB files off. It seemed to be in the same IP area as Microgaming, BUT, the specific IP for the All Slots upgrade server was registered to Spiral Solutions. It looks like Spiral Solutions is related to Jackpot Madness and Microgaming, and have the Isle of Man in common.
If Microgaming had taken the problems seriously then, I would never have found out about all this.
The Spiral Sloutions website will show as a complete blank in a browser, but has some source code that shows the blank page is just a front for a site that has a function other than to be opened in a browser.
Are we still going to be told this was the work of "a negligent employee", this was one hell of a lot of work for one person; and only someone very high up would have the necessary clout to put all of this together.
If I recall, Jackpot Factory had only been "reputable" since 2004, when they came over to Microgaming. I believe there are references to roguish behavior before this!
When they start to really suffer long term revenue loss, it will lead to a spiralling problem for them, they will have to cut back on their promotions, which will make it harder to both attract new players, and retain existing ones. One means of attracting new players has now been closed off for them, and it seems they had not planned on this.
They could find it impossible to get accredited by the new UK Gambling commission, especially if they find out about this issue (and they certainly will). This will hurt them when they are competing head to head with the likes of Fairground Gaming (Palace Group), where I suspect the reverse takeover and listing has something to do with the post 2007 regime.
When we had the Viper Bug last year that lead to All Slots continually downloading games while opening, I traced the "Microgaming Upgrade server" that was firing these CAB files off. It seemed to be in the same IP area as Microgaming, BUT, the specific IP for the All Slots upgrade server was registered to Spiral Solutions. It looks like Spiral Solutions is related to Jackpot Madness and Microgaming, and have the Isle of Man in common.
If Microgaming had taken the problems seriously then, I would never have found out about all this.
The Spiral Sloutions website will show as a complete blank in a browser, but has some source code that shows the blank page is just a front for a site that has a function other than to be opened in a browser.
Are we still going to be told this was the work of "a negligent employee", this was one hell of a lot of work for one person; and only someone very high up would have the necessary clout to put all of this together.
If I recall, Jackpot Factory had only been "reputable" since 2004, when they came over to Microgaming. I believe there are references to roguish behavior before this!
When they start to really suffer long term revenue loss, it will lead to a spiralling problem for them, they will have to cut back on their promotions, which will make it harder to both attract new players, and retain existing ones. One means of attracting new players has now been closed off for them, and it seems they had not planned on this.
They could find it impossible to get accredited by the new UK Gambling commission, especially if they find out about this issue (and they certainly will). This will hurt them when they are competing head to head with the likes of Fairground Gaming (Palace Group), where I suspect the reverse takeover and listing has something to do with the post 2007 regime.
GrandMaster
Dormant account
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I am sure I played at Big Flash, All Slots and Firstwebcasino in 2001 or so and they were already MG. I never had any problem with these casinos until now.vinylweatherman said:
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GrandMaster said:
Myself also GM, in early 2003 I think. I was under the assumption they had always been MG, but I could be wrong.
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They have always been Microgaming-powered.
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That's advertising for you!
Well, thats advertising for you!
I joined in what I believed was a relaunch onto a new platform.
Probably this was just their hype for changing over from Thumper to Viper!
Well, thats advertising for you!
I joined in what I believed was a relaunch onto a new platform.
Probably this was just their hype for changing over from Thumper to Viper!
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vinylweatherman said:
Sweet
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Received a promo offer, answered the following:
acc: xxxxxx
I m sorry, but i m afraid , i cannot play at your casino due to the affair published at Cainomeister and investigated by eCogra.
xxxx
And - minutes later (their CS was always good!) got this nice answer:
Dear xxx,
Thank you for contacting All Slots Casino and for sharing your feelings with us.
We were sorry to hear that you are afraid to play in our Casino after the affair on Casinomeister's site. As you wisely stated in your email - this issue is currently investigated by eCogra and we anticipate their resolution about it.
We guarantee that we will do our best to comply with each and every eCogra rule and regulation.
We hope that this issue will be resolved soon and we look forward for entertaining you in our Casino.
Don't forget that our Customer Service Desk is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to answer any question you may have. Our toll-free numbers and email addresses are listed below. We look forward to hearing from you!
Kind Regards,
All Slots Casino Customer Service
A Jackpot Factory Casino
have a good one - ! sorry, cipher (oh: thanks cipher!)
acc: xxxxxx
I m sorry, but i m afraid , i cannot play at your casino due to the affair published at Cainomeister and investigated by eCogra.
xxxx
And - minutes later (their CS was always good!) got this nice answer:
Dear xxx,
Thank you for contacting All Slots Casino and for sharing your feelings with us.
We were sorry to hear that you are afraid to play in our Casino after the affair on Casinomeister's site. As you wisely stated in your email - this issue is currently investigated by eCogra and we anticipate their resolution about it.
We guarantee that we will do our best to comply with each and every eCogra rule and regulation.
We hope that this issue will be resolved soon and we look forward for entertaining you in our Casino.
Don't forget that our Customer Service Desk is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to answer any question you may have. Our toll-free numbers and email addresses are listed below. We look forward to hearing from you!
Kind Regards,
All Slots Casino Customer Service
A Jackpot Factory Casino
have a good one - ! sorry, cipher (oh: thanks cipher!)
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Oh boy, oh man!
I didn't read this before I posted in the other thread.
Spiral Solutions spams me almost daily.
I am flabberghasted.
I didn't read this before I posted in the other thread.
Spiral Solutions spams me almost daily.
I am flabberghasted.
AussieDave
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- Australia
Not wanting to derail this thread but would like to draw attention to a couple of issues I've got a major problem with!
After 35 pages it's clear how people feel towards JF and their black hat SEO activities. It's also evident that given eCogra's involvement and their quick action to have JF seals suspended, members may now view Ecogra in a different light.
I'd like to think we can all agree that this industry requires some form of unbiased governing body, hopefully void of conflict of interest concerns.
Im however bemused why eCogra acted so swiftly in this matter, as apposed to 888.com (Cassava) which has been largely an ongoing issue since 2005. Especially considering that 888 is also guilty of black hat SEO activity, adding spam and indirectly supporting rogue affiliate site scaping webmasters too.
But I dont see 888.com having its Seal suspended.
Some may hold the view, the reason 888.com has not been dealt the same hand as JF is that John Anderson (CEO of Cassava) and non Executive Director for eCogra along with Roger Raatgever (CEO of Microgaming) were the benefactors that established eCogra.
I would think that placing this along side each of the fore mentioned non Executive Directors (About Us Info) would be fitting considering eCogras touted commitment to transparency and integrity.
The purists and those with vested interests may have you believe this is the wild rants, cloaked agenda or any other numerous reasons they tend to use when confronted with such views.
On the other hand if your committed to this industry, and view it should be played on an even field as I do, then imo these issues should receive an addressing void of bias or conflict of interest.
Its my firm opinion if this combined industry is truly concerned in appeasing to those Governments and those whod like to see the online gaming industry canned, then tough questions like this are warranted and deserve answers.
After 35 pages it's clear how people feel towards JF and their black hat SEO activities. It's also evident that given eCogra's involvement and their quick action to have JF seals suspended, members may now view Ecogra in a different light.
I'd like to think we can all agree that this industry requires some form of unbiased governing body, hopefully void of conflict of interest concerns.
Im however bemused why eCogra acted so swiftly in this matter, as apposed to 888.com (Cassava) which has been largely an ongoing issue since 2005. Especially considering that 888 is also guilty of black hat SEO activity, adding spam and indirectly supporting rogue affiliate site scaping webmasters too.
But I dont see 888.com having its Seal suspended.
Some may hold the view, the reason 888.com has not been dealt the same hand as JF is that John Anderson (CEO of Cassava) and non Executive Director for eCogra along with Roger Raatgever (CEO of Microgaming) were the benefactors that established eCogra.
I would think that placing this along side each of the fore mentioned non Executive Directors (About Us Info) would be fitting considering eCogras touted commitment to transparency and integrity.
The purists and those with vested interests may have you believe this is the wild rants, cloaked agenda or any other numerous reasons they tend to use when confronted with such views.
On the other hand if your committed to this industry, and view it should be played on an even field as I do, then imo these issues should receive an addressing void of bias or conflict of interest.
Its my firm opinion if this combined industry is truly concerned in appeasing to those Governments and those whod like to see the online gaming industry canned, then tough questions like this are warranted and deserve answers.
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Trezz said:
Trezz
I do think eCOGRA is good for the industry overall but there is no getting away from the point you raise. Cassava is largely responsible for its creation and I think (though I am not certain) that they are still a major supplier of funds that allows it to continue to operate.
888.com seems to be operating in a fashion recently that is typical of a business that has such a big share of its market that it feels it can do what it likes.
Mitch
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mitch said:
Not on my watch it can't.
Look at the stock page in google:
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AussieDave
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mitch said:
Most definately agree.
mitch said:
If eCogra is still reliant on Cassava / Microgaming for financial support, Cassava holds a conflict of interest, as does MG too.
Though probably denounced by nature, this factor as with others pertaining to the degree of 'Jobs for the Boys' syndrome imo is riff within eCogra and has been prevalent since eCogra's conception. Anyone who say's otherwise may like to peruse its meaning - (remove XXX) XXXhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest
mitch said:
From what I conclude eCogra suspended the Jackpot Factory Seals for unethical practices in relationship to its eGap policy. Using the same ruling 888.com should also be suspended, no ifs no buts. Any other diversion from this outcome is obvious and unmitigated favouritism imo.
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Searching for love in all the wrong places
<Disclaimer> The views expressed are solely my own. I do not claim to represent any entity other than myself, especially not Jackpot Factory. Additionally, this monologue is limited by the nature of my pride and sundry legal considerations. </Disclaimer>
<Dramatic rant> To begin with, this whole convoluted thread would photograph much like an online Transylvanian lynch mob.
Imagine a shrieking mass containing assorted webmasters/bonus-abusers and other furry creatures. These narrow-minded souls are ferociously forming impressions and fearlessly wielding incendiary laptops. </Dramatic rant>
My response in this thread is not aimed at the abovementioned population of webmasters/bonus-abusers.
The only readers I cater to in my response are peers from the industry and a handful of professionals affiliates.
I was the content manager working on the Jackpot Factor account. My connections to JF were severed two months ago for reasons unrelated to the current drama.
Among other things, my job consisted of managing content on JF sites. This content included short stories written by and for the clients target demographic. The content succeeded to both entertain and convert visitors. In other words, these stories were mostly written by women and aimed at pleasing other women.
To quote my email, so generously displayed in message #314, Articles must be unique, well written, and upbeat.
Our writers were encouraged to write the fluffy and amusing stories we knew our visitors enjoyed.
I came to rely on a robust method for checking and approving that content. This obviously failed.
I am at fault for failing to catch a partial tide of stories that were obviously written in extremely poor taste. Any offended visitors have my sincere apology.
I never intentionally targeted keywords that combine a gambling term and some wretched condition du Jour; such as [casino cures cervical cancer] or some-other-unpleasant-kw-casino.php.
The JF account was rather aggressive due the intensive nature of the competition in the wonderful world of online gaming.
<Drifting back to imagery> Instead of the majority of Casinomeisters posters, imagine little stiletto-wielding guppies swimming in the shallow end of a blood-red ocean while watching sharks fight in the distance. </imagery>
-Boaz Sasson
<Disclaimer> The views expressed are solely my own. I do not claim to represent any entity other than myself, especially not Jackpot Factory. Additionally, this monologue is limited by the nature of my pride and sundry legal considerations. </Disclaimer>
<Dramatic rant> To begin with, this whole convoluted thread would photograph much like an online Transylvanian lynch mob.
Imagine a shrieking mass containing assorted webmasters/bonus-abusers and other furry creatures. These narrow-minded souls are ferociously forming impressions and fearlessly wielding incendiary laptops. </Dramatic rant>
My response in this thread is not aimed at the abovementioned population of webmasters/bonus-abusers.
The only readers I cater to in my response are peers from the industry and a handful of professionals affiliates.
I was the content manager working on the Jackpot Factor account. My connections to JF were severed two months ago for reasons unrelated to the current drama.
Among other things, my job consisted of managing content on JF sites. This content included short stories written by and for the clients target demographic. The content succeeded to both entertain and convert visitors. In other words, these stories were mostly written by women and aimed at pleasing other women.
To quote my email, so generously displayed in message #314, Articles must be unique, well written, and upbeat.
Our writers were encouraged to write the fluffy and amusing stories we knew our visitors enjoyed.
I came to rely on a robust method for checking and approving that content. This obviously failed.
I am at fault for failing to catch a partial tide of stories that were obviously written in extremely poor taste. Any offended visitors have my sincere apology.
I never intentionally targeted keywords that combine a gambling term and some wretched condition du Jour; such as [casino cures cervical cancer] or some-other-unpleasant-kw-casino.php.
The JF account was rather aggressive due the intensive nature of the competition in the wonderful world of online gaming.
<Drifting back to imagery> Instead of the majority of Casinomeisters posters, imagine little stiletto-wielding guppies swimming in the shallow end of a blood-red ocean while watching sharks fight in the distance. </imagery>
-Boaz Sasson
boaz said:
This is total rubbish. These keywords were targeted purposely and they were not there to convert visitors who read the stories. The content wasn't even visible to visitors when it was first published on the sites (it was only made visible much later and only at the bottom of the pages which needed to be scrolled down to see). Whether the target demographic for the casinos is women is totally beside the point. They were not there to be read as it would definitely put people off! They were there simply to get traffic from the search engines.
I also think a lot of these stories were probably cynically written by you. They are often so similar and some show more knowledge of gambling than most people applying for this writing job would have.
