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Jackpot factory group no longer flush withdrawls

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by deepsky2, May 31, 2012.

    May 31, 2012
  1. deepsky2

    deepsky2 Senior Member

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    Made a withdraw last night and request it to be flush as I have in the past ,got a e-mail As per casino policy we are no longer flushing
    withdrawls. Just so you know. While a whithdrawl is pending, your free to reverse any part of it to your casaino account.
    Hmmm I think thats a hint they want me to reverse. Another disappointment from them.
     
  2. May 31, 2012
  3. conker

    conker CM Advisory Group admin - Meister Minions Manager CAG MM webmeister

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    Not only offering you reverse time, but actively pushing it - thats really bad form :mad:
     
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  4. May 31, 2012
  5. deepsky2

    deepsky2 Senior Member

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    I just got a e-mail from Jackpot factory after I asked the reason for no more flush withdrawls.

    They replied back by saying this was a decision made by our casino management to bring our casinos
    in line with current industry standards.

    Hope 32 Red doesnt follow!!!!
     
  6. May 31, 2012
  7. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    What is so wrong with being BETTER than industry standards:confused:


    Surely this is what happens in a competitive market, or are we dealing with a "cartel" which has a secret agreement not to compete with each other in certain matters, which would be illegal under EU law, and there have been prosecutions where industry groups have colluded to fix certain aspects of a market, such as price and availabilty.

    Hopefully, there will be a few casinos that decide to opt out of this cartel, and 32Red seems to be one of them.

    Maybe they are giving a load of BS, as is there REALLY such a thing as "industry standards" when it comes to processing withdrawals. It seems each group differs in pending times and availabilty of flushing, and I see no sign of some kind of standard.


    Maybe they mean the "industry standard" practice of screwing over the players that more and more operators seem to be adopting.

    Still, if you can play MGS, there is still quite a choice despite the consolidation over recent years. Pending time ranges from as little as 1 hour by request at 32Red, to 10 days at BelleRock in some cases.

    A lack of flushing may even benefit players as they have more chance to "cool off" from the rush of a big winning streak, and whilst waiting for their money, change their mind about upping their bets and deposits to see if they can ride their luck.
     
  8. May 31, 2012
  9. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    :lolup: Still, at least it's marginally less patronising than that old gag "You spoke, we listened..." when downgrading LOL.
     
  10. May 31, 2012
  11. ChopleyIOM

    ChopleyIOM Hearthstone Addict webby

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    Q) Why would a casino group stop flushing withdrawals?

    A) To keep money in its system rather than pay it out.

    Q) Why might it want to do this?

    A) Because it's short of cash to pay its players who haven't reversed and/or have withdrawals pending.

    Is that the case at the Jackpot Factory group? Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.

    But given what just happened to Purple Lounge, would you as a player take that chance?

    The 'safe haven' status of MG casinos has been spectacularly blown out of the water by the implosion of Purple Lounge, it is now up to players, more than ever, to be diligent as to where they deposit and hold their funds.

    'Industry standard' my arse, I could just as easily say that the 'industry standard' is 3Dice (payouts in 6 hours or less, 12 hours max), or Jackpot Party (sometimes within 15 minutes and never later than next working day), 32Red (flushed within an hour), Pinnacle Casino (no flush option and paid within an hour to Moneybookers/Neteller) etc etc.

    As a player I am very choosy (now more than ever!) about where I play and where I leave funds 'dormant', for me personally, a casino that once flushed and now doesn't, would be a red warning sign.

    Out of interest, what are Jackpot Factory's pending withdrawal times?
     
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  12. May 31, 2012
  13. deepsky2

    deepsky2 Senior Member

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    24 hours unless they recently changed that as well.
     
  14. May 31, 2012
  15. mattsgame

    mattsgame Ueber Meister CAG webmeister

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    I am just going to throw in NordicBet here as well, there is no chance at all to reverse (not even an option to), once you click withdrawal that is it and then paid in under 12 hours.

    Once proper regulation is in all over the world, wonder how many casinos will survive. Most people wont just sit back and go "oh well, guess I have to take it".
     
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  16. May 31, 2012
  17. deepsky2

    deepsky2 Senior Member

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    Well they changed just recieved e-mail.

    Dear ####

    The pending period for withdrawls is now 48 hours. You can
    read about our withdrawal policy on the link below.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    I think its time to get out of there playground its not fun here anymore.
     
  18. May 31, 2012
  19. ChopleyIOM

    ChopleyIOM Hearthstone Addict webby

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    If that isn't a 'get your money out and keep clear' beacon, I don't know what is.

    Lest we forget we're in a serious worldwide recession, and the casino business is in the 'frontline' in a lot of regards, as gambling is the ultimate form of discretionary spending - for any household or individual trying to cut down on expenses, the occasionally online flutter makes sense as being the first thing to go.

    Remember, Purple Lounge started off a basic 'slow pay' situation.

    Purely my opinion, but any casino group that stops flushing withdrawals and increases their pending period by 100% at the same time, is looking to save cash - there's really no other explanation.

    There are still good choices out there, it's beholden to players to make it clear what we will accept and what we won't, and to give our custom to those casinos who do it right.
     
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  20. May 31, 2012
  21. rainmaker

    rainmaker I'm not a penguin CAG webmeister

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    Players should generally always be aware when casinos are suddenly implementing new restrictions related to payouts.

    Jackpot Factory...isn't allyoubet.com a part of that group? (allyoubet closed the other day).
     
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  22. May 31, 2012
  23. chayton

    chayton aka LooHoo CAG PABnonaccred webmeister

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    This isn't really a new thing, they quit flushing withdrawals quite awhile back. I stopped playing there about the middle of last year and they'd already quit flushing.
     
  24. Jun 1, 2012
  25. deepsky2

    deepsky2 Senior Member

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    I made a flush withdrawl 2 weeks ago had no problem then.
     
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  26. Jun 1, 2012
  27. chayton

    chayton aka LooHoo CAG PABnonaccred webmeister

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    hmmm maybe it depends on your VIP level or something. One of the reasons I stopped playing there - I was 'dirt' level as far as they were concerned. :rolleyes:
     
  28. Jun 1, 2012
  29. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    I am wondering if new owners or management have taken over.

    I have been a VIP there for many years, but last month I was kicked out of that club for being a "coupon player". I did not change my style of play recently, it is JF that switched from running scoreboard contests based on play (the reason I joined in the first place) to "coupon" based promos. The other promos were crap, such as one player winning 50 credits every hour, or free spins at minimum bet once a week for a deposit.

    Now my impression of a deterioration in what they offer has been shown to be true, as they have had this "no flush" policy for a while, although it appears not to be implemented for VIP players, but now they have doubled their 24 hour pending to 48.

    This is the same now as GNUF, who so far have granted me generous "coupons", and do not seem bothered at my "coupon play". As Platinum VIP at GNUF, these "coupons" are pretty generous.

    This week I even got a "premium player" offer of 50% up to £750. The "coupon" that JF seem to not like me taking is the monthly "werewolf bonus", where a £100 deposit grants 50% up to £500 after midnight.

    Before I was kicked off, I received an email from my host granting a week's delay, and suggesting that if I played without "coupons" I would not be kicked out. I deposited and played several thousands, but a week later got the email that management had implemented the decision.

    It looks like I got screwed, as it doesn't seem there was any intent to review the decision taking into account a "demonstration of loyalty". This is the kind of tactic one might expect of Casino Rewards rather than JF.

    All JF casinos have now been uninstalled, and this news that they have now doubled the pending period is hardly going to convince me to reinstall.
     
  30. Jun 1, 2012
  31. The Viking

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    Didnt see this post until now , actully asked them to flush last night and got this,
    I dont like it at all i have always flushed there and more othen then not been paid the same day,so happend i flushed at the 32red group(golden lounge) last night aswell, was flushed within minutes, so i wonder were i will deposit next time hmmm


    Thank you for contacting All Jackpots Casino regarding your request.

    Please note that we are no longer flushing withdrawals, as per casino policy. Please also note that the pending period is now 48 hours. I can see that you have made a withdrawal approximately 3 hours ago; this means that your withdrawal will be sent to processing once the pending period of 48 will elapse.

    Don't forget that our Support Team is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to answer any question you may have. Our toll-free numbers and email addresses are listed below. We look forward to hearing from you!

    Best Regards,
    Scott
     
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  32. Jun 1, 2012
  33. maphesto

    maphesto Ueber Meister CAG MM webmeister

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    Remember that Jackpot Factory is partner with Jackpot Capital/Intertops, which means that this is not a coincidence. This is what Jackpot Capital/Slotastic have done also.

    If any one wants to catch up or have forgotten about some interesting partnership:

    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums...-gaming-all-slots-microgaming-partner-up.html
    You must register/login in order to see the link. (Check the comment from Lloyd-Brightshare about Intertops affiliates who are managing JC affiliates 100% :p )

    I think it was when Intertops closed Royal Joker they began working with Jackpot Factory:

    xxxhttp://casinopromotions.royaljoker.com/covered.php

    Does Intertops or Liberty Slots have same type of reversing periods? :confused:
     
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  34. Jun 2, 2012
  35. Nate

    Nate Ueber Meister CAG webmeister

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    Another Accredited Casino in the BIN....

    The only reason that this is 'industry standard' is because some players choose to accept it.... without kicking up a fuss. A few of us make our point known but the rest ...

    'Oh - They Give me Free Chips so I don't mind the pending period or not being able to flush'.... Nonsense!!:lolup:

    As with a lot of the other coments here, I think most of the groups no longer flushing or holding your Withdrawal hostage are a case of 'Desperate Times Call for Desperate Measures'

    I would steer clear and give my business to a place that treats me like 32Red.

    Nate
     
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  36. Jun 2, 2012
  37. Mousey

    Mousey Ueber Meister Mouse CAG

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    Oh good! Then there are Industry Standards?!? Perhaps the CS can offer us a copy of the complete Industry Standards so we can have a look at them. :rolleyes: We would all love to see them.
     
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  38. Jun 2, 2012
  39. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    This term is widely used when there is an improvement. Now they give a new meaning to this. What is disturbing is that more and more casinos are likely to follow suit making it impossible to find one that 'flushes' and pays in 24 hours. They must have some stats showing the benefits of not flushing and extension of 'pending w/d times'. No matter how they say it, its obvious they want players to reverse and lose back their winnings and/or save processing costs. Brace yourselves for the 'industry standard' to become 72 hours. At a casino you frequently patronise folks.
     
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