Need your input: It's That Time of Year! Meister 2024 Awards: Crypto Casinos

[dunover]

Hi folks:

Your opinions needed!

Yes, to keep with the times there's a new category this year 'Best Crypto Casino 2024' and we'll begin with that one. Over the coming days the remaining categories will be fed in for your perusal and feedback.

Now as you may know the crypto sites cannot be fully accredited right now but do appear in Grey Zone, Neutral and Certified Sites lists here.

We have six on board which are:

*BC.Game
*wild.io
*Bitcasino.io
*winz.io
*Bitstarz
*Slotum

So if you would be kind enough to remind us of your experiences playing at any of these we can get a feel for the potential winner. This is open to all forum members who have played at any as well as the Meister Minions.

Thanks!

 

[YouTubeSlots]

B.C Game. Had no issues there regarding deposits/withdrawals
Huge selection of games/providers.
Also has a lot of old games you cant find on other sites especially here in the U.K

 

[Jono777]

B.C Game. Had no issues there regarding deposits/withdrawals
Huge selection of games/providers.
Also has a lot of old games you cant find on other sites especially here in the U.K

Erm, bit more discretion required here please mate.....

"The one with the letters....."

 

[satchnz]

BC.Game (sorry @Jono777, the one with the letters ) - I’ve played here plenty of times. Never had any issues. Crypto withdrawals are instant. Great selection of games, all at max RTP. I’ll qualify this with the fact that I’m a minimum stakes player and my maximum withdrawal has been approx USD$260.00.

Wild.io - I’ve only played here once and never had the fortune to make a withdrawal. I cannot really add much more sorry.

Bitstars - again, only played here once. Wasn’t able to show my in game balance in fiat equivalent. Had to manage my bets in mLTC which was far from ideal. Deposited 1.12 LTC with a 100% bonus. Ended up wagering it successfully (thanks to a max win on Fruit Party), and withdrew 7.58 LTC with no issues. All games were at max RTP at the time. I haven’t been back since as I wasn’t keen on constantly calculating LTC to fiat.

There are other crypto casinos that I play at that are not on @dunover’s list which are solid in my experience.

 

[dunover]

Thanks - with an increasing number of people trying and then trusting some crypto sites, this is all very informative.

edit typo*

 

[satchnz]

Thanks - with an increasing number of people trying and then trusting some crypto sites, this is all very inmformative.

I should add that you must own the risk. There are plenty of seemingly ok offshore joints that end up going rogue. As I’m low stakes, my exposure is limited. But my attitude might be different if I was betting significant amounts.

 

[TheBingoKingx]

Rogue warning ánd casino of the year nominee.. interesting.

 

[jasonuk]

*BC.Game

Well this one should be an easy disqualification - it has an active CM warning against it!

 

[dunover]

Yes, we have to include all the crypto ones that were listed this year, if it transpires one can also be in a negative category then it will be included there too.

P.S. It's not a nominee for 'casino of the year' anyway, merely included in the best crypto casino opinions thread i.e. this one. A pretty small pool as you can see.

 

[Avernite]

Surprised gamdom isn't on the list. Solid operator I tried out last week along with BC game. Both paid out without hassle.

Out of the two i prefer gamdom for the better deposit options and cleaner look.

 

[mulven]

I'm curious as to whether the conduct of BC.GAME improved or worsened after being taking over by Small House B.V. Perhaps the people behind it are also behind blockdance but perhaps it is completely different and separate

 

[justdoit]

I will say BC casino, lot of games no problem on cashout or deposit etc, I played on BC for many years before UK streamers start playing, never had any problem, RTP still the same no changes, one thing I dont like Withdraw Fees in BC casino, specila on Fiat deposit they are 9%

I played also on Winz casino they drop their RTP to 94%,

P.S.
If you add Gamdom casino I will say they are 10 out of 10 RTP max no withdraw fees. lot of games, 15% cashback etc

 

[L&L-Jan]

BC GAme is bankrupt?

 

[conker]

You might be right @L&L-Jan

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[L&L-Jan]

You might be right @L&L-Jan

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Yes thats what i read yesterday, although in Dutch

 

[conker]

Site is still live and active, so if they are, then they don't appear to have ceased trading.

 

[justdoit]

BC still on , they also have another casino 777 com on diffrent licance

 

[The Viking]

@BitStarz and @Winz.io casino do it for me
played at both for few years now and so far no prob, if any i get a quick resolve from support, and the Reps here.
cashouts done within 5 min as well and i use ewallets.

 

[neomatrix]

Surprised gamdom isn't on the list. Solid operator I tried out last week along with BC game. Both paid out without hassle.

Out of the two i prefer gamdom for the better deposit options and cleaner look.

Both VPN withdrawals right? and you're a USA PLAYER?

 

[Avernite]

Both VPN withdrawals right? and you're a USA PLAYER?

I don't use VPNs, and I'm a New Zealander.

 

[justdoit]

Both VPN withdrawals right? and you're a USA PLAYER?

you dont have to play on USA or be from USA to play on VPN, you can play on Euro or Yen

 

[conker]

Saw this today. Confirms some suggestions that have been flying around recently.

 

[mulven]

Saw this today. Confirms some suggestions that have been flying around recently.

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Looking like February 22nd was a bad day to get approved by the GCB, looking to be 2/7

 

[justdoit]

Gamdom casino Boosted RTP on Hacksaw games to 97.43 %

 

[Avernite]

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Gamdom casino Boosted RTP on Hacksaw games to 97.43 %

How? Is it a hidden math model Hacksaw provides?

 

[mulven]

How? Is it a hidden math model Hacksaw provides?

I've seen sites do this years ago and the "boosted" part was via external rebates, however after checking the game itself on gamdom, it is a different version of the slot with the aforementioned RTP calculated over 10B rounds.

If it's the scratchcard approach to slot development it'll just be as easy as shipping it out with more winning game outcomes. If there is a different math model involved that would require more work.

 

[satchnz]

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Gamdom casino Boosted RTP on Hacksaw games to 97.43 %

I played there on Friday for the first time in ages and didn’t see these, dammit! Unless they were only added to the site yesterday?

 

[slaman29]

Oh wow had no idea BC.Game ceased operations (but only in the UK). The rumors were true in the end.

 

[justdoit]

How? Is it a hidden math model Hacksaw provides?

like Stake casino had pragmatic play on 98% RTP, Gamdom about to add more games on Boosted RTP

 

[justdoit]

I played there on Friday for the first time in ages and didn’t see these, dammit! Unless they were only added to the site yesterday?

yeasterday, they add also Volt where u keep the money and earn %, I thing next they going to add more pragmatic play on 98%

 

[jasonuk]

How? Is it a hidden math model Hacksaw provides?

It doesn't appear to be a flat increase (e.g. RIP City is +1.21%, Wanted is +1.11%) so that probably rules out any cashback type deals... in which case that could suggest a new maths model. Quite a few providers offer 97% and 98% models now - just happens to be very few takers for them

Saying that, plenty of warning signs with gamdom - their extensive journey with monopoly money streamers being one, also plenty of allegations of confiscated funds and other shenanigans over the years. So one step forward, two steps back?

 

[jasonuk]

Oh wow had no idea BC.Game ceased operations (but only in the UK). The rumors were true in the end.

Not really "operations" - it was a shell white label to allow them to put their crypto branding (which happened to be the same logo as their UK site, despite the UK site having a different URL) on sports teams in the UK.

This is probably a case of jumping before being pushed - TGP (who operate the white label) have had a number of run-ins with the UKGC for their conduct, and this is a timely reminder that most of their business is the same... crypto or asian operators using a backdoor to push their (unlicensed) brands into the UK marketplace.

As an aside, it looks like the football league have already plotted how to get around their own "gambling ban" - as it's still only going to apply to "front of shirt" (headline) branding from 2026-27... so it can be seen on other parts of the kit (including the arms of the shirt), billboards and other promotional activity... which is a pity.

 

[slaman29]

As an aside, it looks like the football league have already plotted how to get around their own "gambling ban" - as it's still only going to apply to "front of shirt" (headline) branding from 2026-27... so it can be seen on other parts of the kit (including the arms of the shirt), billboards and other promotional activity... which is a pity.

Interesting, I had read it as a total ban like what they did with China-based casinos apparently since I haven't seen them for a couple of seasons now or maybe more. Did they put any timeline for a complete ban or is there no mention of complete bans?

Here in Singapore, tobacco and gambling have been completely gone for maybe 20 years now. Alcohol still exists though. I think in England those were replaced by gambling.

 

[jasonuk]

Interesting, I had read it as a total ban like what they did with China-based casinos apparently since I haven't seen them for a couple of seasons now or maybe more. Did they put any timeline for a complete ban or is there no mention of complete bans?

Here in Singapore, tobacco and gambling have been completely gone for maybe 20 years now. Alcohol still exists though. I think in England those were replaced by gambling.

I had to double-check when writing the previous post because I thought it was more of a ban than it actually was - no doubt some over-enthusiastic reporting at the time. The original plan only applied to front-of-shirt, so nothing has actually changed in that regard.

There are other restrictions outside of football, but no talk of a total ban - the gambling tax take is too high to allow the boat to sink entirely. As you say, gambling sponsorship is where tobacco sponsorship was 30-40 years ago - and as the intensity gets higher and higher (as we're seeing with "gamba brainrot" across social media platforms) then the calls to ban it will get louder and louder.

I do think the UKGC and/or government need to close this loophole though - if your logo for your UK-licensed shell casino doesn't actually reference your UK site, then it's pretty obvious what the intention is... even if the football clubs can turn a blind eye to it because their dealings are purely with the licensed operator.

 

[justdoit]

Unlicensed Gambling – Our approach to tackling unlicensed gambling​

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[slaman29]

I do think the UKGC and/or government need to close this loophole though - if your logo for your UK-licensed shell casino doesn't actually reference your UK site, then it's pretty obvious what the intention is... even if the football clubs can turn a blind eye to it because their dealings are purely with the licensed operator.

From what I can read online, the planned amendments to these laws aren't only postponed, but will be watered down. We already know football clubs are financially mismanaged, for sure a lot of it on purpose.

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As usual, old and slow approach a hundred steps behind. Google, Yahoo, Bing? Kids were savvier than that 15 years ago.

 

[jasonuk]

From what I can read online, the planned amendments to these laws aren't only postponed, but will be watered down. We already know football clubs are financially mismanaged, for sure a lot of it on purpose.

In the case of the football clubs, that was their own announcement (no doubt facing regulator pressure) and it hasn't been watered down - but also isn't particularly useful when it only applies to one of many advertising opportunities.

As usual, old and slow approach a hundred steps behind. Google, Yahoo, Bing? Kids were savvier than that 15 years ago.

There's a rather notorious video clip of the UKGC representatives explaining about a gap in knowledge regarding crypto and unregulated gambling, and that they would need three years to get up to speed.

That's already a staggering statement to make, it's breath-taking incompetence when you realise it was

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... more than five years into the current wave of crypto gambling!

 

[slot_zombie]

yeasterday, they add also Volt where u keep the money and earn %, I thing next they going to add more pragmatic play on 98%

Interested... but do they KYC?

 

[satchnz]

Interested... but do they KYC?

In my experience (and from research), no. Decent site too.

 

[justdoit]

Interested... but do they KYC?

no , if you do fiat deposit you get KYC by payment provider

 

[geordiecolin]

I am just curious to see the forums real options for awards that matter more even though I have restricted my choices to those that in the long term may give me most of my money back in the long term.

 

[dunover]

I am just curious to see the forums real options for awards that matter more even though I have restricted my choices to those that in the long term may give me most of my money back in the long term.
Spreading your dosh fare and wide will feck you up more

It's in hand, coming soon.

*the list that is*

 

[geordiecolin]

It's in hand, coming soon.

*the list that is*

Cheers mate, Or should I now address you as sir?

 

[dunover]

Cheers mate, Or should I now address you as sir?

Why?

 

[geordiecolin]

Why?

Your official promotion since I was last allowed to post. I have no doubt that you deserve it if I need to qualify myself.
Most of us have atributes and distinctions that single us out.
Congrats mate.

 

[justdoit]

Roshtin $24m win not recordit by Nolimit

 

[slaman29]

It's in hand, coming soon.

*the list that is*

We will be watching, real awards that matter, and a clear path to why they got those awards. Would be super cool!

 

[alcatraz]

I am still playing at Winz and Bitstarz since years. Unfortunately both do not offer the highest rtp on most games, but so far, they are well versed operators, never had any issues, cashouts are quick, support is doing a good job.

 

[alcatraz]

Roshtin $24m win not recordit by Nolimit

What kind of "win"? Experience?
Wonder why this shit is still wandering through the internet.

 

[mina1929]

Bitstarz always