Islam. Yes Islam, we are allowed to discuss it.

[goatwack]

Only in this country would the bleeding heart liberals fall over themselves to get this girl/ woman allowed entry back in the UK.

She claims to have been brainwashed, well yes, that much is true, problem is as consequence of that she's just telling people what they want to hear (read: Taqiya) whilst knowing that we're such a bunch of soft c**** (read: Kafir)

And of course given the selective outrage this has caused, I can see future appeal(s) going in her favour, with the judges rolling over like puppies to accommodate her 'Human Rights'. Then she can fulfil her dreams & mission, i.e Breeder Machine T-1000

 

[mack341]

Is Anna Soubry actually a Conservative in any way she tweeted that she thinks ISIS girl should be brought back to UK to her family. In what way is Anna Soubry a Conservative with a view like that?

she used to do the television reviews for richard and judy back in the 80's, then became a criminal barrister, whether she specialised in defence or prosecution I'm not sure, she is a bit odd I must say. very aggressive and contrary, she'd probably fit in well with chuka's new crew rather than the conservative party. I bet it was old davey boy cameron who got her selected. oh just seen it says she has joined chuka's harem...

 

[pinnit2014]

That new supergroups going to have an identity crisis at some point.

 

[colinsunderland]

She certainly qualifies: "The Bill also allows those born outside Bangladesh to gain citizenship. If they subsequently come to live in Bangladesh, they need to show that one parent is already a Bangladeshi citizen; if they continue to live abroad, as expatriates, they need to show that either a parent or grandparent is a Bangladeshi citizen."

The sticking point is that the onus is probably on her to actually apply for Bangladeshi citizenship, as it doesn't appear that it can just be foisted on her, willy nilly. If she doesn't apply, then she remains British.

Yes, I agree, but they still have to accept her application, she will qualify, but I would be very surprised if Bangladesh says yes to her application, in which case the UK will have acted unlawfully in removing her UK one.
I hope the home office hasn't just pandered to public opinion without actually thinking it through as she will likely get back in if that is the case.

 

[Playford7]

Is Anna Soubry actually a Conservative in any way she tweeted that she thinks ISIS girl should be brought back to UK to her family. In what way is Anna Soubry a Conservative with a view like that?

Anna is mentally ill. That is all. Not to mention a nazi

 

[livadiva]

Anna is mentally ill. That is all. Not to mention a nazi

Does she need an upstairs downstairs? She must have heard from a Jewish person that someone did that to punish an Irish girl for being white. That's awful. What does it solve?

With a name like McMaster and modern day R Kelly in Parliament, the solution is to acknowledge a different master. Then you explain that Jesus was the SON of God. God has 1000+ names. Just because they can't pronounce the name, doesn't mean it isn't relevant. Sigh. Descended from the first Canadian school of Divinity from the time of Abolition. It's a thing, my whole life. R Kelly is not a pissant. You don't want to know what happened to my friend Ant. I said to call himself Tony for a reason.

 

[goatwack]

You tell that Playford

 

[dionysus]

I...what?

 

[The Dude]

Anna is mentally ill. That is all. Not to mention a nazi

Let's cool it on the Nazi comparisons - reductio ad Hitlerum. Thanks!

 

[Playford7]

Let's cool it on the Nazi comparisons - reductio ad Hitlerum. Thanks!

Granted... but sorry, her behaviour is akin to nazi Germany and we all know how that ended. Miss soubry hates democracy, she’s against a democratic vote, hence being nazi like.

 

[Luckyscouser45]

As far as I’m concerned she’s a made her bed let her lay in it. also her family why don’t they join her over there. She needs to be publicly beheaded the absolute scum bag boils my blood the irony of her on the news saying we should have sympathy how about sympathy for all the kids and people who died in Manchester and other Isis atrocities. She is deluded and I for one glad the government actually had a spine to deny her if she was allowed back here there would be anarchy

 

[Luckyscouser45]

She’s clearly mental as well speaking about her kids deaths and not even flinching she shows no remorse neither

 

[goatwack]

She’s clearly mental as well speaking about her kids deaths and not even flinching she shows no remorse neither

She's been indoctrinated from birth so to her it's all fair game

 

[steveh35]

It doesn't help that the muppets at Sky, BBC and itv keep trotting round to her place everyday to interview her and give her the publicity she craves.

itv news were particularly galling today making sure they were first to give her a copy of the citizenship letter and the BBC reporter summing up couldn't wait to tell us how sorry she is now.

 

[goatwack]

Oh God

 

[geordiecolin]

No worried about my abibliophobia while visiting this forum!

 

[lockinlove]

I find it weird that its not just one delusional country but seems to be a liberal thing. Our liberal government in Canada want to bring isis fighters back here and try and reform them. So far they have allowed 60 back here and when questioned about it in the house, the liberals simply stated they are watching them and putting 5 million dollars into programs to reform them

 

[livadiva]

I find it weird that its not just one delusional country but seems to be a liberal thing. Our liberal government in Canada want to bring isis fighters back here and try and reform them. So far they have allowed 60 back here and when questioned about it in the house, the liberals simply stated they are watching them and putting 5 million dollars into programs to reform them

Oh I thought they wanted certain people beheaded so all Canadians Muslim or otherwise could get on with them selves. Not unlike American Helicopters, some could get close and some couldn't. I could wear a Cameo on my neck myself. One idiot thought that made me white supremacist 15 years ago. sheesh. knowledge is power.

 

[dunover]

Here's how it will play out:

1. Leftie bleeding hearts like Diane Abbott and the BBC will champion her cause.
2. After a lengthy appeals process costing millions she will come back, probably having dropped a couple more junior IS.
3. The state will prosecute her for show, a liberal judge will give her a suspended sentence.
4. Taxpayer will fund extra security in response to death threats she gets.
5. She will sign a publishing deal about her time with IS and earn a small fortune, as another lawyer makes the case that her crimes were committed abroad and not in the UK so she can monetize her story here.
6. The relatives of IS murder victims here can carry on grieving, with a bit of anger thrown in for good measure.

 

[Luckyscouser45]

I find it weird that its not just one delusional country but seems to be a liberal thing. Our liberal government in Canada want to bring isis fighters back here and try and reform them. So far they have allowed 60 back here and when questioned about it in the house, the liberals simply stated they are watching them and putting 5 million dollars into programs to reform them

Wow scary

 

[mina1929]

No worried about my abibliophobia while visiting this forum!

Thank god for google, now I get it

 

[colinsunderland]

She certainly qualifies: "The Bill also allows those born outside Bangladesh to gain citizenship. If they subsequently come to live in Bangladesh, they need to show that one parent is already a Bangladeshi citizen; if they continue to live abroad, as expatriates, they need to show that either a parent or grandparent is a Bangladeshi citizen."

The sticking point is that the onus is probably on her to actually apply for Bangladeshi citizenship, as it doesn't appear that it can just be foisted on her, willy nilly. If she doesn't apply, then she remains British.

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Shamima Begum is not a Bangladeshi citizen and there is "no question" of her being allowed into the country, Bangladesh's ministry of foreign affairs has said.

Theres a surprise.

 

[interlog]

But what about this bit from that same article:

Lawyers have told the BBC that under Bangladesh law, a UK national born to a Bangladeshi parent is automatically a Bangladeshi citizen - a dual national - but the Bangladeshi authorities assert that's not the case for Ms Begum.

Under this "blood line" law, Bangladeshi nationality and citizenship lapse when a person reaches the age of 21, unless they make active efforts to retain it.

So, it is Ms Begum's age, 19, that is likely - in part - to have given Home Office lawyers and the home secretary reassurance there was a legal basis for stripping her of her UK citizenship.

Quite complex and not straightforward at all.

 

[geordiecolin]

But what about this bit from that same article:

Lawyers have told the BBC that under Bangladesh law, a UK national born to a Bangladeshi parent is automatically a Bangladeshi citizen - a dual national - but the Bangladeshi authorities assert that's not the case for Ms Begum.

Under this "blood line" law, Bangladeshi nationality and citizenship lapse when a person reaches the age of 21, unless they make active efforts to retain it.

So, it is Ms Begum's age, 19, that is likely - in part - to have given Home Office lawyers and the home secretary reassurance there was a legal basis for stripping her of her UK citizenship.

Quite complex and not straightforward at all.

The same law that allows countless UK Bangladeshi's families to come to the UK as a right to live in the UK with their family members? The Bangladesh government can not pick and choose when that law does and does not suit them

 

[colinsunderland]

But what about this bit from that same article:

Lawyers have told the BBC that under Bangladesh law, a UK national born to a Bangladeshi parent is automatically a Bangladeshi citizen - a dual national - but the Bangladeshi authorities assert that's not the case for Ms Begum.

Under this "blood line" law, Bangladeshi nationality and citizenship lapse when a person reaches the age of 21, unless they make active efforts to retain it.

So, it is Ms Begum's age, 19, that is likely - in part - to have given Home Office lawyers and the home secretary reassurance there was a legal basis for stripping her of her UK citizenship.

Quite complex and not straightforward at all.

Not at all, but I still think the home office might end up with egg on their face. If Bangladesh state they don't accept her cistizenship then we can't strip her UK one. It's going to be an interesting few days. Can't blame Bangladesh for not wanting her really!

 

[geordiecolin]

Not at all, but I still think the home office might end up with egg on their face. If Bangladesh state they don't accept her cistizenship then we can't strip her UK one. It's going to be an interesting few days. Can't blame Bangladesh for not wanting her really!

Then we can argue against countless Bangladeshies right to reside in the UK using their own stance against them. The outcome of these legal arguments will have much wider implications

 

[Steviedoo]

The girl was 15 when she left Britain to join isis?
Is this true?

If it is, it changes everything about this story.

Edit: and I don’t mean she should be let back into the country.

 

[colinsunderland]

The girl was 15 when she left Britain to join isis?
Is this true?

If it is, it changes everything about this story.

Edit: and I don’t mean she should be let back into the country.

Yes, how does it change everything? Its always been known how old she was.

 

[mack341]

Can't see bangladesh's objection really, she's muslim and so are they, yes she might believe in an extreme version but they'll have a better chance of re-educating her than us. What I was staggered to learn is that bangladesh's population is around 150 million, I thought it would be around 30 million, and the country is near burma [myanmar] and china, I thought it was on the other side of india got it muddled with kashmir.

 

[goatwack]

Hmmm, so Bangladesh won't have her. Spin enough PR whilst claiming the British Government are racist, get a good lawyer, aaaaaand we all know how this is going to turn out

 

[Steviedoo]

Yes, how does it change everything? Its always been known how old she was.

I didn’t know she was 15 until I read the entire thread and news items.

It changes my view. That’s all.

15 is young.

Easy to manipulate. Brainwash etc...do you really think she knew what she was getting herself into at that age. And At that age. When you say think of your future....all they can think of is...that’s for old people.

I wouldn’t take her back for the fact that god knows what they indoctrinated her with especially now that I know her age.

 

[cncas2123]

Jeremy Corbyn says its very extreme to strip her of British citizenship, and she should be allowed back into the country..... no surprise there then.
I wonder when she left to go to the caliphate 4 years ago did she dream of coming back to a sharia UK which was in the hands of ISIS, or did she really want to return to the democracy that she left? I have no problems with the UK turning their back on her now, she did that to the UK 4 years ago, and she knew exactly what she was doing even if she was only 15.

 

[colinsunderland]

I didn’t know she was 15 until I read the entire thread and news items.

It changes my view. That’s all.

15 is young.

Easy to manipulate. Brainwash etc...do you really think she knew what she was getting herself into at that age. And At that age. When you say think of your future....all they can think of is...that’s for old people.

I wouldn’t take her back for the fact that god knows what they indoctrinated her with especially now that I know her age.

I would agree if it wasn't for the fact her views haven't changed. Saying the Manchester bombings were justified? I knew people at that concert who could have been killed. There is no justification for killing kids. She isn't a 15 year old child now, she's an adult. She can fuck off.

Anyway I'm out now before I rant too much, catch you all later

 

[mina1929]

I read the story over the last few days and I just don't trust her one bit.

At 15 she knew what she was doing and she knows what she is doing now, I would not like her to come to my country that's for sure.

There is something about her when I watched her interview and its not good

 

[lockinlove]

I didn’t know she was 15 until I read the entire thread and news items.

It changes my view. That’s all.

15 is young.

Easy to manipulate. Brainwash etc...do you really think she knew what she was getting herself into at that age. And At that age. When you say think of your future....all they can think of is...that’s for old people.

I wouldn’t take her back for the fact that god knows what they indoctrinated her with especially now that I know her age.

When my friends and I were 15 year old girls we were chasing boys, wearing make up, talking on the phone and anyone ever spoke to us about this we would find the nearest police office. We arent that easily manipulated. People turn dark at certain times that define them. Hers was 15.

I really don't understand why a good portion of liberals always instantly lean to oh poor them they must feel terrible. Remember when that muslim girl here filed a fake police report saying people beat her up and cut off her hijab and it turned out she made it up? The first thing our Liberal PM did was call a news conference pandering to them, apologizing on Canadians behalf and shaming us before he even had any evidence at all.

Boy did he look like a true idiot that day. Especially since jews were attacked the week before and he didnt say a single thing.

It needs to be written into law that if you leave the country at any point to join a terrorist group you are not allowed back ever. Then this wont arise because it's law. Hopefully when the other sides take powers throughout countries they are smart enough to do this so this BS stops and its never even up for debate.

 

[goatwack]

When my friends and I were 15 year old girls we were chasing boys, wearing make up, talking on the phone and anyone ever spoke to us about this we would find the nearest police office. We arent that easily manipulated. People turn dark at certain times that define them. Hers was 15.

I really don't understand why a good portion of liberals always instantly lean to oh poor them they must feel terrible. Remember when that muslim girl here filed a fake police report saying people beat her up and cut off her hijab and it turned out she made it up? The first thing our Liberal PM did was call a news conference pandering to them, apologizing on Canadians behalf and shaming us before he even had any evidence at all.

Boy did he look like a true idiot that day. Especially since jews were attacked the week before and he didnt say a single thing.

It needs to be written into law that if you leave the country at any point to join a terrorist group you are not allowed back ever. Then this wont arise because it's law. Hopefully when the other sides take powers throughout countries they are smart enough to do this so this BS stops and its never even up for debate.

Pretty sure the turning point for her wasn't 15

 

[lockinlove]

Pretty sure the turning point for her wasn't 15

Maybe it was? I dont really see why it matters, the point I was making there is a point in someones life where they make the decision to take the wrong path

 

[goatwack]

Maybe it was? I dont really see why it matters, the point I was making there is a point in someones life where they make the decision to take the wrong path

I don't think she'd know her arse from her elbow at that age. More likely is that the decision was made for her

 

[dunover]

I don't think she'd know her arse from her elbow at that age. More likely is that the decision was made for her

I see these media interviews this scumbag gives to the media saps that go and talk in Syria are getting progressively more teary, baby always prominent blah blah.

Yep. We all know what's gonna come hell or high water - we'll end up funding the parasite while she pisses herself laughing behind closed doors, churning out more and more kids within a police cordon.

 

[goatwack]

I see these media interviews this scumbag gives to the media saps that go and talk in Syria are getting progressively more teary, baby always prominent blah blah.

Yep. We all know what's gonna come hell or high water - we'll end up funding the parasite while she pisses herself laughing behind closed doors, churning out more and more kids within a police cordon.

Daesh aren't exactly 'flourishing' last time I checked. What better way to bolster numbers than send a brainwashed ready-made breeder of preferred age to knock out a few resistance fighters. They probably dug out the Thompsons brochures from 1988 showing Syria to be the land of milk and honey. Then, she has 'her' kid, knock out a sob-story, poor girl/ mother, and watch the liberal circus ensue. It's televisual magic

 

[steveh35]

Well it's all going to plan the media are feeling sorry for her, itv news did another sob story on her this evening, Sky News main story is "she is willing to change", Corbyn wants her to come back and they are trying to use the baby coming back on it as a backdoor to bring her back.

Can you imagine the baby came back and was separated from it's mother, the human rights lovies would have a field day.

 

[dunover]

Surely we have another way around this - we pay for MI6 and maybe she could drink some contaminated water or fall on a tent peg? Or some of the refugee groups there could have a (ahem) 'disagreement' between themselves one day?

 

[goatwack]

Surely we have another way around this - we pay for MI6 and maybe she could drink some contaminated water or fall on a tent peg? Or some of the refugee groups there could have a (ahem) 'disagreement' between themselves one day?

Nevermind MI6, DWP will do

 

[cncas2123]

Wonder how long it will be before the " go fund me " page to bring her back is set up...... I am sure Jezza and Diane Abbot are getting the back room team working on it now..

 

[goatwack]

Wonder how long it will be before the " go fund me " page to bring her back is set up...... I am sure Jezza and Diane Abbot are getting the back room team working on it now..

I've already started 3

And if anyone wants to support her cause, I've also set up a Change.org petition

 

[slotplayer]

When my friends and I were 15 year old girls we were chasing boys, wearing make up, talking on the phone and anyone ever spoke to us about this we would find the nearest police office. We arent that easily manipulated. People turn dark at certain times that define them. Hers was 15.

I really don't understand why a good portion of liberals always instantly lean to oh poor them they must feel terrible. Remember when that muslim girl here filed a fake police report saying people beat her up and cut off her hijab and it turned out she made it up? The first thing our Liberal PM did was call a news conference pandering to them, apologizing on Canadians behalf and shaming us before he even had any evidence at all.

Boy did he look like a true idiot that day. Especially since jews were attacked the week before and he didnt say a single thing.

It needs to be written into law that if you leave the country at any point to join a terrorist group you are not allowed back ever. Then this wont arise because it's law. Hopefully when the other sides take powers throughout countries they are smart enough to do this so this BS stops and its never even up for debate.

Liberals promote a victim mentality.

 

[goatwack]

Remember people

Love Trumps Hate

#ByGumBringBackBegum

 

[dionysus]

Remember people

Love Trumps Hate

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#ByGumBringBackBegum

Trump Loves Hate, you say?

 

[goatwack]

Trump Loves Hate, you say?

Not the one I know. He's draining the swamp

 

[lockinlove]

Liberals promote a victim mentality.

I saw Bernie Sanders video the other day announcing his 2020 run. What a cute old man, someone should get him his meds