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Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by Balthazar, Sep 11, 2014.

    Sep 11, 2014
  1. Balthazar

    Balthazar The Governor

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    The number of CM exclusive promotions has dropped significantly during the last year or so? I don't think I've played ANY CM exclusive promo in between Guts DOA 1st and 2nd annual championships (and none since). I know that BETAT is trying but they are pretty much alone these days. Back when I joined this forum there were 32Red, Redbet, 10Bet and others posting all kinds of cool promos with free spins, free tournaments, bonuses, ND offers...

    What happened? :(
     
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  2. Sep 11, 2014
  3. Tirilej

    Tirilej On a Break

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    Breathing
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    Sweden
    There have been some. 32Red have had both tourneys and free spin contests. Also a few other offers have been out but not many.
    I know some that offers for just new members. They certainly don't care.

    I think it depends a lot on the reps. If they don't care much about this place then they see no reason to do anything, or they are not allowed to because of the costs.

    Some maybe want to but can't because they are not accredited.

    So casinos...reps...you hear us? ;)
     
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  4. Sep 11, 2014
  5. paul7388

    paul7388 Meister Member MM

    Occupation:
    not a lot
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    glasgow scotland
    Maybe its a case of they cant afford it or their companies want them to stick with the official promotions they run.

    Or it could just be that everyone these days is just more interested in getting newer members.

    Or maybe its a case of some companies looking at some of the posts on here lately and thinking why bother. Theres been quite a few of late where an OP has started a thread and before you know it the casino has been ripped apart without even having the chance to state there side. Maybe just Maybe some Reps have got to stage where they feel why offer anything special to CM when at times members wont even give casinos that have been good to them a chance to respond to complaints.
     
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  6. Sep 11, 2014
  7. Tirilej

    Tirilej On a Break

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    You're right. I hate the fact that these kind of things happens.
    So maybe we get what we deserve? Sad but true :(
     
  8. Sep 11, 2014
  9. paul7388

    paul7388 Meister Member MM

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    glasgow scotland
    Lol must be first time i've been right then.:p
     
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  10. Sep 11, 2014
  11. Tirilej

    Tirilej On a Break

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    Hey, didn't I call you a smart guy the other day?

    As long as you have the same views as me you're right, and obviously you had that now:p


    Noone else that have an opinion? How can we make the reps non-scared, if they are, and generous if they are not? :)
     
  12. Sep 11, 2014
  13. gagamel

    gagamel Professional smurf hunter MM

    Occupation:
    Care Manager
    Location:
    Switzerland
    Maybe there are too much casinos with too much promotions outside.

    A lot of players act like whores, new casino new WB new chance to make profit.

    Together with the AP`s I would say it makes no sense for a casino to make any offers for CM memebers because it`s an open forum.

    Casinos don`t know who they invite here for a promotion.
     
  14. Sep 11, 2014
  15. Tirilej

    Tirilej On a Break

    Occupation:
    Breathing
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    Sweden
    I can hear that you're not interested in any special CM promotions here, but I am. Of course they know who they are inviting. The members from CM.

    But the real reason that I asked the question was more because I would like to hear if anyone have any ideas how we can make this a place where the reps don't need to be afraid to post, to participate, to take part in the forum.
    To feel like they also are respected and members here.
    They are constantly bashed and there are so many complaints that I can't blame them.

    If noone has any ideas I have at least said what I think :)
     
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  16. Sep 11, 2014
  17. PaaskeDenmark

    PaaskeDenmark Always think positive CAG PABnoaccred webmeister

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    They know we are to clever here at Casinomeister and will take full advantage of any exclusive promotion they put up for us. Looks at how Intercasino has done here and even 10Bet LOL

    Guts and BetAt are just world class they don't care because they just enjoy and love being generous which is nice. And yes 32Red as well of course. But I don't think anyone can beat Guts or BetAt when it comes to Generosity and making nice promotions just saying :notworthy

    *Sorry just want to add I did mix bit outside Casinomeister into this post and taking it as a whole.

    I feel if we take on exclusives or special promotion only here Casinomeister then it will be as below in my opinion.

    Then BetAT are doing a great job and a clear winner. Yes 32Red also great with the monthly tournament (shame only good for "club rouge members" or people who likes auto spins at 9 cent).
    But praise to Mark and 32Red for often giving away Free Spins on new slot released or "Chipping" in for CM members exclusive only. I will say Guts has just had their DOA contests which was nice as well.

    But have to mention Club World Casinos are trying with their exclusive cash backs.

    3Dice has their monthly tournament as well but that is bout it from them here. Never see them around or doing any promotions here.

    Okay could mention few others but they have failed badly in my opinion. I might of course have left some out here sorry for that but this post made in bit of a hasty :D*
     
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  18. Sep 11, 2014
  19. PaaskeDenmark

    PaaskeDenmark Always think positive CAG PABnoaccred webmeister

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    I have lots of good ideas but I will leave that to be setup in near future at my own forum HEHE :p :lolup:
     
  20. Sep 12, 2014
  21. Azzurri

    Azzurri Banned User

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    Non of your business
    Location:
    From Foil Land
    I think the main problem is the majority of us often forget to thank the reps when things are good, or might say we'll post about it later and then forget. When something goes wrong, there's more urgency to post straight away, and hence the balance is skewed and perhaps reflected by seeing more complaint threads than praise threads.

    I've definitely been guilty of this in the past, but I try to give thanks and praise where it's due, but will also give my opinion if I am unhappy or disagree with a rep. I think for the most part the reps understand and accept this.

    I also don't think reps should be treated above us in anyway, and it should be a fair and level partnership between reps and players. After all, we are still paying customers, and they are paid to attend to our needs. Just as this forum is a huge benefit to players, it is also a benefit to reps and casinos in terms of having direct access to customers and free advertisement and PR.

    You also have to factor in, that as per forum rules, most player issues should be, and for the most part are, attended to via pm. Hence many issues are resolved privately, and thanks and praise is given to the reps behind closed doors so to speak.

    Also, most public complaints are coming from newbie members, so reps should notice this, and it shouldn't affect the greater community. Hopefully Bryan's new rules will start seeing these type of complaints reduced now anyway.

    However you have to be careful in that we don't now take a vigilante type attitude towards all complaints just in order to protect what you might see as rep bashing. As long as they are articulated politely, all complaints should be acknowledged and addressed, otherwise you defeat the purpose of this forum, and you shift the balance of power totally in the reps favor, leaving the players with no rights, voice, or outlet.

    Just my opinion of course.
     
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  22. Sep 12, 2014
  23. mcgameboy

    mcgameboy Screenieholic & Essayist mm2

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    Casual Stocktaker (Inventory Counter)
    Location:
    Belfast
    I have to agree with Paul. I cannot help but feel that threads like "LuckyDalia v BETAT" and "Joseph3 v 32Red" really do not help our cause. And sadly, we ourselves are guilty of harming our cause, by allowing ourselves to be manipulated by agenda-driven OPs into giving "anti-operator" opinons.

    I'd admit that I am more likely to be in favour of the player than in favour of the operator, given that I am a player. But at the same time, I have to put myself in the shoes of the operator and think how it must feel to have a reputation questioned, dismissed, quickly forgotten and dragged through the mud, all because of one person (the OP) and his/her (often bogus) self-serving agenda. And if I was in the operator's shoes reading one of those two threads, do you think I'd be happy? Would I feel "motivated" to give a group of people a nice freebie or a great promo when they have just collectively questioned my reputation/integrity without even bothering to get all the facts first? Not bloody likely.

    So in light of those two recent cases, I can see why some of the reps here DO feel under-appreciated.

    Which is why I am actually VERY pleased with Bryan's decision to change the posting rules re:complaints. I genuinely hope for and believe that these changes will ensure such toxic threads never rear their ugly head again. Or at the very least, that they get closed before they get out of hand.

    And then maybe the reps here will begin to feel truly appreciated again. And then maybe we'll get some juicy promos again.

    I now submit a request to be rewarded with 50 free spins of Avalon II at max bet for this awesome post. :p

    Hmmm.....I don't hearing any reps rushing to grant this request. Bugger. :(
     
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  24. Sep 12, 2014
  25. BETAT

    BETAT Online Gaming Affiliate Manager

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    I suppose I feel akin to what a teacher may feel in a school, when it comes to being a rep in the forum. I'm here to help the players (or students in the analogy) receive the information and due attention they require and deserve, while still insuring I represent and answer to the administration (the casino).
    Like teachers, kudos are appreciated but not required. For my part, I'm happy to help and participate where I can. :)

    Exclusive promotions are like extra-curricular activities. They might not be a required element, but I certainly enjoy doing them and it's a great way to add a little extra to the day. I hope everyone enjoys them as well but feel free to add your input...after all, you only join in the after school/day events that appeal to you and they only succeed if both sides take an interest.


    It's a learning curve on both sides. So I welcome your (constructive) feedback. I'm here as much, if not more, to help you guys as I am to represent the casino. So don't ever be shy to reach out via pm with your thoughts. :thumbsup:
     
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  26. Sep 12, 2014
  27. suzecat

    suzecat Dormant account CAG MM webmeister

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    Well, hell. I'm just gonna come out with it here. No PM. :D

    The first rep I thought of who is very attentive and generous is BETAT. When a BETAT promo is for CM members with XX posts, invariably newbie's show up, no intro post just XX bogus garbage posts to qualify for the promo. This really irks me and I wonder how the rep feels about us letting garbage like that happen.

    Really glad CM changed the rules recently and hope it helps our reps know we appreciate them, we got their back and we are glad they are here at our forum.

    It probably would not hurt to post some kudos to the reps when we can. :D
     
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  28. Sep 12, 2014
  29. BETAT

    BETAT Online Gaming Affiliate Manager

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    Casino Rep
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    counting down until spring
    Thanks. :) I try (when I remember to lol) to make the rules for an exclusive, that there is 10 qualifying posts BEFORE contest start date. For example, the current one reads Contest open to any CM member in good standing having at least 10 or more posts from contest start date.. This is to just help insure it's for CM members in exclusivity, but open to members for the next time one comes around, assuming you participate here in the forum. I'm sure different promotions have different rules and there is no specific guideline to follow beyond the obvious and those in the CM mandate. I try to be as fair as possible, but there's always room for tweaks and improvement which is why I always value member feedback. :)
     
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  30. Sep 12, 2014
  31. Balthazar

    Balthazar The Governor

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    I don't think this is the reason. Criticizing casinos when something is perceived negatively has always been a part of CM, just like praising them when something good happens.

    It's more that overall, there are fewer active reps on the forum. Guys like Andy, Ben, Mark and Enzo were WAY more active a year+ ago. Now the BETAT rep is pretty much the only active rep here*, and he's the only one doing promos.

    *By active, I mean reps that are participating to all kinds of discussions, including those that aren't directly related to their casino.
     
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  32. Sep 12, 2014
  33. Tirilej

    Tirilej On a Break

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    Special promotions for us would be nice but like you say I would rather have them reps back in posting.

    By doing that they are also showing all members that it's actually people that are working at the casinos, and not robots that they can treat any way they want.
    They often feel that they are not respected, and I don't blame them.

    Andy, where are you? IanO, start posting again....and the rest of you, please try, we won't eat you :D
     
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  34. Sep 12, 2014
  35. AndyB-MrGreen

    AndyB-MrGreen Dormant account

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    Casino manager
    Location:
    Malta
    I'm lurking.
    As soon as it's easy for me to isolate the CM folks from the non-CM folks I'll throw in somne promos.
    We need to have them pre-approved before we post them on the site too, which can take a while if the guys are busy so that removes a bit of the spontaneity and I find it impossible to plan more than 5 minutes in advance.
    And I represent the big bloke in the green hat now so I can't be quite as cheeky as I was before :)

    Oh and I have to work these days too. ;)
     
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  36. Sep 12, 2014
  37. Tirilej

    Tirilej On a Break

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    I knew that already. I just don't accept it :p

    Thanks for replying though:)
     
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  38. Sep 12, 2014
  39. AndyB-MrGreen

    AndyB-MrGreen Dormant account

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    Casino manager
    Location:
    Malta
    Oh go on then.

    A free tenner to the first 10 CM players who send me their email address.
    One time only! Offer ends at 10am CET
    Hurry up!

    I say free, there's a 5x wager on it :)
     
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