Intercasino has confiscated me $8200

inter1178502

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Intercasino has confiscated me $8200

Perhaps you are unable to believe,but this is true. I am unable to believe! But it has happened.

I am a user of InterCasino.com from 2002.my casino id is C2xxxxxx,I have been believing in them very much all the time , regardless of won or lost.i have play the casino every month when I free at home or my company. they pay me quickly and the customer service is the best.They have chosen as the best casino online for three years in succession.Numerous honors, let me believe in them further.

2003,they launched online poker. I am attracted by the online poker deeply.I play it thousands of hands per month,from $1/$2table to $100/$200table.one month ago,i deposited $500 and play and won up to $8200,i withdrawaled $2000 and waited for a week.but no payment.i contacted the customer service,they told me i will get paid.

after two weeks,i check my Neteller account,there are no payment from Intercasino.A few days later,i can not login in my poker account,my account has been locked.

I contacted customer service,They answer me, they do not know the reason either. Later on,they sent an email to me


_______________________________________________________________________
Dear xxx;

Hello and thank you for contacting Players Help.

For security reasons, your account C2xxxxxxx has been temporarily
been closed for investigation as we have reason to believe that you have used your ECash Direct account to perform some activities that breach our Terms & Conditions.

Your balance will be kept on hold until this issue has been resolved.

Please note that once we have more details concerning this
investigation, we will contact you back.

_______________________________________________________________________



I believe firmly , I have not violated any rule . I have only one account at intercasino.So, my self-confident answering them, investigate as soon as possible!

after few days,They require need my documents,so i sent my ID Card and credit card statements.

after a week,they sent me an email



_______________________________________________________________________
Dear xxx

Hello and thank you for contacting ECash Direct (UK) Ltd.

Thank for your co-operation in sending the documents needed by the
fraud department to investigate your case. After reviewing your documents, a decision has been made. It is unfortunate that our Fraud department has found you've used your poker account in a fraudulent way, and have decided that your account will be closed permanently and all funds will remain in the account with no possibilities of it being withdrawn.
_______________________________________________________________________


my GOD!!!!!!!!!!! What is this determined? I have almost gone mad. i called customer service be told they do not know the reason.

Made people be unable to believe,They have not pointed out the clear reason to closed my account.because i won????The madman!!!they are $6200 in my account and $2000 pending withdrawal!!!


I contacted EcashDirect but no responses.so i contacted Ryan--the casino manager.Ryan told me"There is nothing I can do for you, ECashDirect is investigating and it's up to them to finish the investigation."

i have make a "print screen" for the evidence,I do not know whether it is useful or not , but I decide to try .

Here, I warn friends playing intercasino.Don't keep a lot of money in the account.Which day is known not, your account is closed too. Confiscate your money .


Now, I am looking for an effective law to complain , I hope to get the help of every friend. Which court can refer such Complaints , I know that EcashDirect is a regular company, But this kind of behavior of confiscating my money of theirs is illegal! wiht NO REASON!WITH NO evidence!
 
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Hi inter1178502,

And welcome to the forum (cool user name btw).

I'm contacting the casino to see if they can't look into this further. In the meantime, chill. :D
 
Inter1178502, Welcome to the Forum. I'm hoping that Casinomeister's luck in getting a response from Ryan Hartley is a whole lot better than mine has been, as I've never received a reply from him in over a dozen times that I've emailed him. It would seem to me that Intercasino would certainly have been able to detect any untoward conduct on your part in the two years that preceeded your $8,200.00 win and subsequent withdrawal of $2,000.00 unless Intercasino only started looking for something untoward after you managed to win.

Cipher
 
Stay cool, Inter. But this sounds like BS to me if no-one can tell you what you have done wrong - that's a basic customer right whether they are confiscating $1 or $8200. Good luck.
 
jetset said:
Stay cool, Inter. But this sounds like BS to me if no-one can tell you what you have done wrong - that's a basic customer right whether they are confiscating $1 or $8200. Good luck.

Hi Jet;

This sounds like B. S. to me period!!!!

In this instance the player won his $8,200.00 from Intercasino and there is no claim none, zip, zero, nada from Intercasino that this player in anyway cheated in winning the aforementioned $8,200.00. It is Intercasino's responsibility to pay the player.

If E-Cash Direct has what they believe to be a "valid issue" with the player Then E-Cash Direct should persue that matter separately from paying the $8,200.00 that is owed to the player by Intercasino. Otherwise this E-Cash Direct outfit takes on the look of a giant vaccum cleaner sucking up funds from players accounts while being condoned by Intercasino.

The player contracted with Intercasino and its' Intercasino's responsibility to pay the player forthwith.
 
It sounds to me like they are intimating there was some sort of money laundering going on. It should be interesting to hear what they have to say.
 
Dear all,

I am currently looking into the issue and will post a reply to this thread tonight or tomorrow morning.

Regards,

Ryan Hartley
 
Lol, Jpm!!! Intercasino Pay That Man His Money. Ryan You Are No Saint And You Rip People Off Everyday. I Don't Care If He Used A Stolen Credit Card. You Deduct The Purchase Amount And Pay Him His Balance. Or Call The Law Enforcement. But You Can Not Keep That Man's Money. You Casinos, Launder Money, Drug Trade, And Fund Terrorism On People Lives.

Don't Make A Mountain Out Of A Mole-Hill. Pay The Man His Damn Money, Close His Account, And Move On. I Am Sick And Tired Of This $hit. You Want Id And Personal Information From People For No Good Reason But To Put It All In A Database And Sell To Government For Tracking Purposes Anyways. You Online Casinos Are Nothing But Fronts Operatives And Scums!

I Am Tired Of This $hit!!!
 
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I think you need to switch to decaf murder1! lol

Seriously though, if its a stolen credit card, then I think the person who's credit card it is should get the money and all winnings. A thief shouldn't be allowed to profit from his illegal activity. NOTE: I'm not accusing Inter1178502 of being a thief, just referring strictly to murder1's post!
 
jpm said:
I think you need to switch to decaf murder1! lol

Seriously though, if its a stolen credit card, then I think the person who's credit card it is should get the money and all winnings. A thief shouldn't be allowed to profit from his illegal activity. NOTE: I'm not accusing Inter1178502 of being a thief, just referring strictly to murder1's post!

Well (wait a minute) if it takes Ryan Hartley until "this evening or tomorrow morning" to realize that this issue involves a stolen credit card or anything of the sort, then I think Ryan Hartley needs to be replaced with someone who is in the know as to what the hell is going on at Intercasino.
 
Whilst I appreciate that one can become frustrated at times, this sort of abusive rant from Murder 1 does absolutely nothing to carry this issue forward. Let's wait and see what Ryan's investigation produces.
 
Murder1 - keep your emotions in check please. No need to start jumping to conclusions before you have seen the full story- you know better than that. You'll just end up eating crow in the end and looking stupid.
 
Looks like some serious fraudulant activity has occured here. Inter1178502 do you have anything you want to say before I post the info that has been given to me by Intercasino?

If you let it rest, I'll just pretend it didn't happen, and we can go on our merry way.

Ball's in your court, dude.
 
Jeez, not another evil player? These guys certainly have plenty of cheek in using the message boards if that is the case. This guy has posted over at WOL too.
 
casinomeister said:
Looks like some serious fraudulant activity has occured here. Inter1178502 do you have anything you want to say before I post the info that has been given to me by Intercasino?

If you let it rest, I'll just pretend it didn't happen, and we can go on our merry way.

Ball's in your court, dude.

I think the ball is in Ryan Hartley's court. Yesterday Ryan Hartley came on the Forum in only his second post and said: "I am currently looking into the issue and will post a reply to this thread tonight or tomorrow morning."

Its' high time that Ryan Hartley does what he says he's going to do and when he says he's going to do it. These Forum members who take their time to invest themselves in these matters are perfectly capable of sorting out the truth of the matter.
 
Hi Cipher,

I disagree with you on this one. This is another matter that is not a simple as it may first appear; it's a 180 degree turn-around from the intitial posting. This is an issue of collusion that involves a number of people as far as I know. And I'm giving the player the opportunity to some clean, or just walk away from it all. So the ball is in his court.

I've had the info for a while now, and it's still early afternoon Ryan's time. Sheesh give the guy a break!
 
Thats interesting ~B.

I am undecided as to whether a player that uses the boards to push a scam should even get the chance to just walk away after holding thier hands up.

So post the info and then i'll decide lol.
 
amandajm said:
I am undecided as to whether a player that uses the boards to push a scam should even get the chance to just walk away after holding thier hands up.

So post the info and then i'll decide lol.
Agree - Interlotsofnumbers started it - let's see what it was all about.
 
casinomeister said:
Hi Cipher,

I disagree with you on this one. This is another matter that is not a simple as it may first appear; it's a 180 degree turn-around from the intitial posting. This is an issue of collusion that involves a number of people as far as I know. And I'm giving the player the opportunity to some clean, or just walk away from it all. So the ball is in his court.

I've had the info for a while now, and it's still early afternoon Ryan's time. Sheesh give the guy a break!

If these matters do involve collusion (and with that) probably conspiracy, it's my opinion that Ryan Hartley should have been well aware of and advised on this issue long before you became aware of it Bryan. If, if there is evidence of collusion on the players part that too needs to be exposed. This industry is never going to clean itself up as long as we're willing to turn a blind eye to this type of thing.

Lastly, from what I know (from a first hand basis) of Ryan Hartley, he deserves no break at all. Moreover, I'm certainly not prepared to accept anything that Ryan Hartley has to say about any issue, as true, unless and until I'm able to personally verify the veracity of any such comments.
 
casinomeister said:
This is an issue of collusion that involves a number of people as far as I know.

I was hoping that you, or others, could elaborate on how one proves collusion in poker. I am ignorant in all-things-poker but thought that it was kind of a hard thing to prove - that the evidence is all indirect and circumstantial. I mean could a casino cry "collusion" because 3 or 4 players make the same bet at a table with cards that normally would not be called in order to avoid payment to a player? Couldn't they just maybe be bad players? Do players constantly cry "collusion" when they lose? Would any "reasonable" investigation require at a minimum hundreds of hands over a period of time, as would seem to be possible in this case? And still, ultimately, be a judgment call? Is there any objective proof that would be acceptable to all? And, finally, I didn't think the edge to be gained from collusion was all that great anyway. Is it more depending on the game maybe? Is it alot?

And, finally, how common do any of you poker players, or casino managers out there, think collusion is in poker. Is it often suspected but yet there not be enough evidence to prove it? For me, just playing BJ gives rise to enough paranoia as it is, without having to worry the 6 other guys are all on the cell phones with each other.

If any guy and his cohorts are all ultimately deemed to be colluding, does the casino go back and refund money to all the honest players that they cheated. Yeah, right. Lost my head there for a second. Sorry.
 

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