IGT Slot RTP List

[TheLastCylon]

After my post about Net Entertainment's listed RTP's, I was directed by Kasino King to IGT. This is the information on their games that I was able to find.

I was disappointed to find that only about 60% of the games actually have information listed. And the games that are listed have some pretty low RTP's. The median is closing in on two percentage points inferior to Net Entertainment.

The RTP ranges confused me. I thought that slots operated on an RTP that was set during the creation of the game. It's a consequence of the game's math. How can a slot have a range?

I averaged the RTP ranges to get a mean which I then plugged into the calculator.

Best: 98.14% MegaJackpots Cluedo and Monopoly
Worst: 92.52% Transformers
Mean: 94.987
Median: 94.97
Mode: 94.98

Slots-----------------------
100,000 Pyramid: ___________________ 92.78-95.03% (93.91 mean)
50,000 Pyramid: ____________________ No information
Arabian Riches: _____________________No Information
Banana-Rama Deluxe: ________________No Information
Battleship: _________________________ 94.48%
Bitten: _____________________________94.99%
Cashino: ___________________________No Information
Captain Quid's Treasure Quest: _________95.01%
Captain Jackpot's Cash Ahoy: __________No Information
Cats: ______________________________93.04-94.93% (93.99 mean)
Cleopatra: __________________________No Information
Cleopatra II: ________________________95.13%
Cluedo: ____________________________No Information
Da Vinci Diamonds: __________________94.94%
Da Vinci Diamonds Dual Play: __________No Information
Double Diamond: ____________________95.08%
Dungeons & Dragons Crystal Caverns: ___94.94%
Dungeons & Dragons Fortress of Fortunes: 94.50%
Elvis- A Little More Action: ____________94.97%
Elvis Multi Strike: ____________________97.30%
Elvis Top 20: _______________________ No Information
Enchanted Unicorn: __________________No Information
Fire Opals: _________________________No Information
Five Times Pay: _____________________95.10%
Grand Casino: ______________________No Information
Jeopardy: __________________________ No Information
Kitty Glitter: ________________________93.51-94.92% (94.22 mean)
Lil' Lady: __________________________94.98%
MegaJackpots Cleopatra: _____________93.04%
MegaJackpots Cluedo: _______________98.14%
MegaJackpots Monopoly: _____________98.14%
Monopoly Here and Now: _____________No Information
Monopoly Multiplier: _________________94.95%
Monopoly Pass Go: __________________No Information
Monopoly You're In The Money: _______94.00-96.76% (95.38 mean)
Monty's Millions: ____________________94.98%
Noah's Ark: ________________________93.04-94.93% (93.99 mean)
Pixies of the Forest: _________________No Information
Rainbow Riches: ___________________ No Information
Rainbow Riches Win Big Shindig: ______96.46%
Siberian Storm: ____________________No Information
Star Trek: _________________________92.49-94.99% (93.74)
Super Hoot Loot: ___________________ 92.51-94.56% (93.54 mean)
Texas Tea: ________________________97.36%
Three Reel Hold Up: ________________ No Information
Transformers: _____________________ 92.52%
Treasures of Troy: __________________94.93%
Triple Fortune Dragon: ______________ 94.97%
Vacation USA: _____________________ No Information
Vegas, Baby: ______________________ 95.02%
Wheel of Fortune Hollywood Edition: ___No Information
Wheel of Fortune Triple Action Frenzy: _No Information
White Orchid: _____________________ 94.93%
Wild Wolf: ________________________92.99-94.97% (93.98 mean)
Wipeout: _________________________ 95.00%
Wolfrun: _________________________ 94.98%

I hope that this list helps.

 

[Greigssy]

I have always found their slots to be tight. Impressive looking and some fun features but can clean your balance out pretty fast compared to the other software providers.

My favourite slot of theirs is Cleopatra but Cleopatra 2 has to be the worst sequel to a slot ever.

 

[J.B.]

The RTP ranges confused me. I thought that slots operated on an RTP that was set during the creation of the game. It's a consequence of the game's math. How can a slot have a range?

A range means there are multiple configurations. For example, a Vegas casino might use a 95% configuration, whereas a casino with no competition might use a 92% configuration.

 

[Bonkerjerks]

After my post about Net Entertainment's listed RTP's, I was directed by Kasino King to IGT. This is the information on their games that I was able to find.

I was disappointed to find that only about 60% of the games actually have information listed.

Hi all,

I'm the Interactive Casino Product Manager from IGT. I'm not sure where you are looking, but all of our games list the long term theoretical RTP in the paytable. It is usually the last slide on the paytable. I can assure you that listing the RTP on our games is standard practice and I would be surprised if any of our games didn't list the RTP.

J.B. is correct that the range usually refers to different RTP based on casino preference, juristiction, and other factors.

However, one thing I'd like to make clear is that RTP never tells you the whole story on a game. In the short term, it is more often the volatility of the slot that you are really experiencing. To use Cleopatra and Cleopatra II as an example, it is interesting to note that Cleo II has a slightly higher RTP (95.13% vs 95.02%). However, Cleo II has a much higher volatility. This means that there are more drastic highs and lows. With Cleo, you win more often but a smaller amount. With Cleo II, you can have longer dry spells, but higher payouts when you do win.

Some people like the easy ride, some like the more dramatic ride. It's all a question of what experience you are looking for. At IGT, we have slots that cater to all types of players.

Hope that helps!

 

[rainmaker]

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However, one thing I'd like to make clear is that RTP never tells you the whole story on a game. In the short term, it is more often the volatility of the slot that you are really experiencing. To use Cleopatra and Cleopatra II as an example, it is interesting to note that Cleo II has a slightly higher RTP (95.13% vs 95.02%). However, Cleo II has a much higher volatility. This means that there are more drastic highs and lows. With Cleo, you win more often but a smaller amount. With Cleo II, you can have longer dry spells, but higher payouts when you do win.

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Hello you,

Yes, important point.

Net Entertainment also writes something similar about their games:

....Pay-out is however just one dimension of pay-table design. Variance, hit frequency and distribution of winnings between base- and bonus game(s) are other factors to take into consideration. At Net Entertainment we have mastered the skill in pay-table design which is at the core of creating high performance games.

 

[Seventh777]

My fav IGT slot is Rainbow Riches (especially in slot arcades) although, unlike their online gambling cousins are restricted to a £500 jackpot for a £1 spin, I have hit the jackpot on these in every form possible, my best run was roughly 3 years ago I hit the jackpot in the arcade then popped over the road to a Lad`s bookies and hit it again on one of their multi games video machines, the following Wednesday I done exactly the same thing £2k in 8 days . It was probably well over a year before I went into the arcade again and on my very 1st spin I hit 3 Leprechauns and it made the whole road and hit the jackpot (these work different to online ones you need at least 4 Leprechauns to hit £500 as the cap on 3 is x200 bet).

Love this slot with a passion and a close 2nd is Elvis A little More Action.

One of many RR Jackpots........



And for fun, I really cannot wait for the day I have a balance of £20k+ at Sky Vegas, shit or bust time chasing this bad boy lol.......

 

[KasinoKing]

My fav IGT slot is Rainbow Riches (especially in slot arcades)...

That's not actually an IGT slot - it's made by Barcrest.
Sky Vegas have slots form a multitude of different suppliers, as do many other "IGT based" online casinos.

BTW, I saw at Virgin Casino the other day that they have a list of all their slots with the RTP stated next to each one in a handy list form.
I wish ALL casinos would do that!

KK

 

[Seventh777]

That's not actually an IGT slot - it's made by Barcrest.
Sky Vegas have slots form a multitude of different suppliers, as do many other "IGT based" online casinos.

BTW, I saw at Virgin Casino the other day that they have a list of all their slots with the RTP stated next to each one in a handy list form.
I wish ALL casinos would do that!

KK

Ooops, thanks for pointing that out KK , not played at Virgin for ages, tbh not really played at anywhere atm, kinda bored with it all, need something really exciting to lure me back in lol.

 

[TheLastCylon]

I'm not sure where you are looking, but all of our games list the long term theoretical RTP in the paytable.

I'm looking at your website, IGT Interactive. Some of the slots have game information PDFs available for download, others do not.

J.B. is correct that the range usually refers to different RTP based on casino preference, juristiction, and other factors.

What do you mean by jurisdiction and other factors? I'm curious about the state of online gaming throughout the world and would really appreciate any information that you can give.

However, one thing I'd like to make clear is that RTP never tells you the whole story on a game.

That's certainly true, but the RTP is the core of the game. All games are essentially mathematics, including things like variance. If I'm going to play a game, I'm going to search for the game that gives me the best math.

And while one percentage point may not make too much of a difference from the perspective of the end player, two points starts to make a difference, regardless of the game's design.

And from the perspective of the casino owner, one percentage point can equal millions in profits. So low RTP's seems to be exclusively the choice of the casino. The players would want high RTP's regardless of the other characteristics.

Some people like the easy ride, some like the more dramatic ride. It's all a question of what experience you are looking for. At IGT, we have slots that cater to all types of players.

That is an aspect of the game design I'm curious about. The games are all fundamentally mathematical. What is the quantifiable measure of volatility? Has anyone ever considered publishing that data? Would it be statistical variance? It would be very helpful for people since they would then have a number to search for based on their preferences. Currently, lots of casinos describe games as high or low variance. Without some sort of quantitative baseline, that's meaningless.

BTW, I saw at Virgin Casino the other day that they have a list of all their slots with the RTP stated next to each one in a handy list form.
I wish ALL casinos would do that!

Thanks for that. I would update my post to include all of the RTP's from them if I could. Virgin also appears to have higher RTP's for many games than those listed on IGT's website. For example, Virgin's version of Transformers is nearly 3% better. It's still not as good as Net Entertainment, but better.

 

[Simmo!]

Some people like the easy ride, some like the more dramatic ride. It's all a question of what experience you are looking for. At IGT, we have slots that cater to all types of players.

Hope that helps!

Hi Bonkerjerks

Can you tell me why some games have RTP set to a range on the IGT paytables? For example, on Siberian Stormm it shows as "92.52% - 96%"? Logically I'd guess that it is because different casinos can request different RTP settings?

That's not actually an IGT slot - it's made by Barcrest.

Being a bit pedantic, Barcrest was actually owned until very recently by IGT. I think it was sold to Scientific Games back-end of 2011.

 

[KasinoKing]

Can you tell me why some games have RTP set to a range on the IGT paytables? For example, on Siberian Storm it shows as "92.52% - 96%"? Logically I'd guess that it is because different casinos can request different RTP settings?

Being a bit pedantic, Barcrest was actually owned until very recently by IGT. I think it was sold to Scientific Games back-end of 2011.

Talking about Siberian Storm - I saw they had it at Virgin, so decided to have another go on it...
... and lost the same amount (or more) than I did in that casino in London!
Not even a sniff of a half-decent win.
Either it's mega-high variance, or I was very unlucky, or it's crap...

Didn't know that about Barcrest - thanks for the info!

KK

 

[Bonkerjerks]

Good questions!

RTPs listed at a range have a couple reasons. Most of the time, it is because we have several math models of the game available that have all been approved. Casinos can choose their math model based on what they want for their customer. This is a standard on the land-based side that we also practice on the Internet. In addition, our new Monopoly Plus game coming out has a level up feature that means the more you play, the higher the RTP on the bonus game. These RTP rewards carry over between play sessions, rewarding players for return play.

Also, especially on the land-based side, some juristictions restrict RTP. Fruit machines in the UK, for example, have a horrible RTP compared to online slots.

As for RTP and volatility, I can understand the confusion. The two work hand in hand to provide the experience and both are just as important to the math of the game. At IGT, we rate our games volatility on what we call the "Chili Pepper Scale" of 1-5. Most of our games fall into the entertainment zone of 2 or 3 chilis. However, some fall into the higher risk gambler zone of 4-5 chilis.

For example, if I created a 98% RTP game with extremely low volatility (low 1 chili), many players would hate it. Sure, you it might take you double the number of spins to lose the same amount of money, but you will never see any payouts that truly give any sort of win feeling. Imagine a game where you play 100 spins, and on 98 of them you win your total bet back and nothing more. That would be a 98% RTP, but would be a horrible slot.

In addition, RTP is a theoretical value based on thousands upon thousands of spins. You, as a player, are never really going to play any single slot enough to match the RTP exactly. There will be times where you are on the RTP curve, but more often than not you will be above or below it. Just to confuse things even more, RTP is split between the base and bonus games. Bonus games, such as free spins, have no risk on the player side, so the amount a bonus awards can drastically change RTP. Balancing the reward between the base and bonus games is essential to a great slot.

Long post. Hope that helps!

 

[Bonkerjerks]

Talking about Siberian Storm - I saw they had it at Virgin, so decided to have another go on it...
... and lost the same amount (or more) than I did in that casino in London!
Not even a sniff of a half-decent win.
Either it's mega-high variance, or I was very unlucky, or it's crap...

Didn't know that about Barcrest - thanks for the info!

KK

Siberian Storm does have a higher volatility that most of our slots. You can have dry spells, but you can also have huge wins. It's actually one of our best performing land slots and we only launched it online recently (performance has been excellent so far).

I'm going to go with "unlucky"!

 

[Simmo!]

I saw the new "Level Up" version of Monopoly at ICE last week as it happens.

Just to confuse things even more, RTP is split between the base and bonus games. Bonus games, such as free spins, have no risk on the player side, so the amount a bonus awards can drastically change RTP.

Had never considered that...interesting.

Is there somewhere where the "chilli" ratings are listed or I could get hold of them? I have most pretty accurately I think - based on experience mainly - but clarification would be good.

 

[TheLastCylon]

RTPs listed at a range have a couple reasons. Most of the time, it is because we have several math models of the game available that have all been approved. Casinos can choose their math model based on what they want for their customer. This is a standard on the land-based side that we also practice on the Internet. In addition, our new Monopoly Plus game coming out has a level up feature that means the more you play, the higher the RTP on the bonus game. These RTP rewards carry over between play sessions, rewarding players for return play.

That's a cool dynamic. But this seems like it would only affect the player-received RTP over short periods of gameplay. Once the player “levels up,” the bonus RTP must hit a ceiling and the slot would then simply level off at a set RTP. And even though the RTP is variable, it is still important. I still want to know the return that I begin with and what the maximum possible RTP becomes when I reach my max level. If that beginning RTP is poor, I don't want to play the game.

Also, I don't mean to be a confrontational jerk, but casino's don't pick their math model based on what they want for their customers, it's based on their bottom line. They might have a spectrum of game variance, and that's certainly for the customer, but if the casino was out for the customer, all slots, regardless of variance, would have a 99% return.

In fact, I'd imagine that casinos frequently use variance as a tool to hide poor RTP's.

Also, especially on the land-based side, some juristictions restrict RTP. Fruit machines in the UK, for example, have a horrible RTP compared to online slots.

Some governments actually force casinos to have low RTP's? That's just bizarre. I would have expected laws to only exist for the opposite goal. The UK needs new lawmakers.

As for RTP and volatility, I can understand the confusion. The two work hand in hand to provide the experience and both are just as important to the math of the game. At IGT, we rate our games volatility on what we call the "Chili Pepper Scale" of 1-5. Most of our games fall into the entertainment zone of 2 or 3 chilis. However, some fall into the higher risk gambler zone of 4-5 chilis.

For example, if I created a 98% RTP game with extremely low volatility (low 1 chili), many players would hate it. Sure, you it might take you double the number of spins to lose the same amount of money, but you will never see any payouts that truly give any sort of win feeling. Imagine a game where you play 100 spins, and on 98 of them you win your total bet back and nothing more. That would be a 98% RTP, but would be a horrible slot.

I appreciate that you provide a scale, but it's still just some little pepper images. I was hoping for something quantitative, because that gives me a real baseline for interpreting slots. I could go play a few hundred games at your casino of each slot and DEVELOP a sense of the chili scale, but that is useless for comparing your product to other casinos or to some generally recognized standard for slot design.

In addition, RTP is a theoretical value based on thousands upon thousands of spins. You, as a player, are never really going to play any single slot enough to match the RTP exactly. There will be times where you are on the RTP curve, but more often than not you will be above or below it. Just to confuse things even more, RTP is split between the base and bonus games. Bonus games, such as free spins, have no risk on the player side, so the amount a bonus awards can drastically change RTP. Balancing the reward between the base and bonus games is essential to a great slot.

I recognize that it is just a theoretical number, but it is still the most important number. From the player's perspective and especially the casino's perspective. For the player, having sky-high variance would be terrible since most players would lose all of their money on their first set of spins, which means that all games would require something less than sky-high.

If I enjoy the slot, I'm going to play it a fair amount, and that means that the RTP will have a significant impact on me and anyone who enjoys that particular slot. And even though bonuses and other such things all change the RTP as I go, the “real” RTP stays the same, and that is the RTP that I work ever closer to the more I play the game.

I found a link to a post by Eliot Jacobson, who is a big-time math guy I assume, and he says what I'm trying to say.

When someone speaks of high variance slots, it is really not the key point. The key point is "what is the RTP?" Slots that return 92% or more are good slots. Slots that return 96% or more are great slots. Slots that return under 88% suck. That's the theoretical RTP built into them by the programmer, not the individual's experience.

This applies to my previous argument that RTP is what is critical, since variance can very well be a tool to hide the RTP from the customer.

My ideal world has both the RTP and the variance listed with some objective number.

 

[TheLastCylon]

BTW, I saw at Virgin Casino the other day that they have a list of all their slots with the RTP stated next to each one in a handy list form.

KK, could you send me the link to that. I tried to find it for a good thirty minutes. There's a lot of blind alleys at Virgin Casino's site where I always seem to end up with some big image of a toothy woman with a champagne glass.

 

[threescatters]

Good questions!

RTPs listed at a range have a couple reasons. Most of the time, it is because we have several math models of the game available that have all been approved.

Hi Bonkerjerks,

Many thanks for posting in this thread, you are giving some excellent replys and insight, I for one appreciate it.

I really applaud IGT for having published the RTP of their slots in the pay tables for years. It gives a feeling of honesty about the whole thing when you are playing on them and I think everyone from casual penny players to hardened slot addicts appreciates it.

However the trend you have now of publishing this "range" is a bit crap. Its publishing the RTP, without actually publishing it at all if you know what I mean! You are almost as clueless after reading it as you were before, and it removes the feeling of honesty.

Why cant you just publish the actual RTP in the pay table that that slot at that casino is set to. You are very honest about everything else so why not do that?

threescatters

 

[KasinoKing]

There seems to be a little bit of confusion going on here...

That's a cool dynamic. But this seems like it would only affect the player-received RTP over short periods of gameplay. Once the player “levels up,” the bonus RTP must hit a ceiling and the slot would then simply level off at a set RTP. And even though the RTP is variable, it is still important. I still want to know the return that I begin with and what the maximum possible RTP becomes when I reach my max level. If that beginning RTP is poor, I don't want to play the game.

I don't think Bonkerjerks said anywhere that the RTP is variable. In fact, it can't be as that would be a contradiction.
Where a slot has a range of RTPs, each individual casino can pick one of several options. But then that RTP is fixed.

However the trend you have now of publishing this "range" is a bit crap. Its publishing the RTP, without actually publishing it at all if you know what I mean! You are almost as clueless after reading it as you were before, and it removes the feeling of honesty.

Why cant you just publish the actual RTP in the pay table that that slot at that casino is set to. You are very honest about everything else so why not do that?

As above. If you go to the paytable on each slot at each casino you will see what RTP they have theirs set on.

KK, could you send me the link to that. I tried to find it for a good thirty minutes. There's a lot of blind alleys at Virgin Casino's site where I always seem to end up with some big image of a toothy woman with a champagne glass.

Go to:Old / Expired Link
In the red bar where it says "Slots", select the "List View"

KK

 

[Bonkerjerks]

I don't think Bonkerjerks said anywhere that the RTP is variable. In fact, it can't be as that would be a contradiction.
Where a slot has a range of RTPs, each individual casino can pick one of several options. But then that RTP is fixed.

True, with one exception. As far as I am aware, we only have one slot that is truly RTP variable and that is the upcoming Monopoly Plus slot. The game has an RTP that is similar as many of our other slots. The "leveling up" feature raises that RTP by 1-2% for those that unlock all the features. Its meant as a reward, and no, we didn't penalize the base game to pay for it. In fact, the RTP bonus is only on the bonus board and affects the volatility (increased chances of bigger rewards), thus affects the RTP.

I'll say again that RTP doesn't ever tell the whole story. A single number doesn't give you the nuance of where that money is actually rewarded. You could have a low RTP base game, saving all the payout for a volatile bonus game that can reward a few people a lot of money. RTP and volatility go hand in hand to give players the slot ride that they are looking for. You can also design a high RTP game that is extremely efficient at taking your money for the house while only occasionally offering a big enough payment to offset that. Just because a game has a high RTP, doesn't necessarily mean that its a fun one to play.

 

[threescatters]

There seems to be a little bit of confusion going on here...


I don't think Bonkerjerks said anywhere that the RTP is variable. In fact, it can't be as that would be a contradiction.
Where a slot has a range of RTPs, each individual casino can pick one of several options. But then that RTP is fixed.


As above. If you go to the paytable on each slot at each casino you will see what RTP they have theirs set on.



Go to:Old / Expired Link
In the red bar where it says "Slots", select the "List View"

KK

Yes I understand that the individual casino can pick the RTP and then it is set in stone. But that is what I mean by "variable". I mean variable from casino to casino.

You are wrong that if you go to the paytable on each casino you will see what RTP they have. Some list the ranges and NOT what they are set to at that casino. Go to siberian storm at kerching casino for example. This is what I am talking about, thats not listing the RTP!

And yes I realise virgin themselves state their own RTP for every slot, its great. But because it is allowed for different casinos to set different RTPs on IGT slots, you cannot take virgins listing for siberian storm as what kerching have.

This is why I am saying its pointless to list the range in the paytable at some places, and its not listing the RTP. I just assume the worst when I see a range listing and its a pretty depressing assumption.

threescatters

 

[TheLastCylon]

I don't think Bonkerjerks said anywhere that the RTP is variable. In fact, it can't be as that would be a contradiction.
Where a slot has a range of RTPs, each individual casino can pick one of several options. But then that RTP is fixed.

You're right. He did imply that with statements such as this, though

Bonus games, such as free spins, have no risk on the player side, so the amount a bonus awards can drastically change RTP.

I sort of read between the lines, as it were, and assumed that he meant the received RTP as opposed to theoretical RTP. That confusion is my fault. I shall henceforth refer to the RTP that can vary as "Player RTP," or PRTP, which can be easily spoken as "Partap." I will refer to the designed mathematical RTP of the game as "Theoretical RTP."

My time away allowed me to come back and read the thread and I realized that we got a bit off-track from what I was hoping to achieve. I wanted to post IGT's slot T-RTP list and I still have a number of holes in it that I don't want to leave up there. Virgin posts all of their T-RTP's, but since many of IGT's casino clients don't post their T-RTP's, I think it would be good of IGT to post the numbers for their slots.

Where can I get this information from IGT?

While the T-RTP isn't the whole story, I think that making the information easily available is a good gesture. And the larger the pool of open, honest casinos, the happier that little gamblers like me are.

 

[Bonkerjerks]

Where can I get this information from IGT?

The RTP of all our slots is listed in the paytable for each slot.

 

[Nifty29]

Given that the Australian government has never invoked our anti gambling law, and that they have indicated that it will be repealed soon anyway, why don't IGT start allowing Aussies to play their slots?

It just seems so silly.

 

[Bonkerjerks]

Given that the Australian government has never invoked our anti gambling law, and that they have indicated that it will be repealed soon anyway, why don't IGT start allowing Aussies to play their slots?

We don't because there is an anti-gambling law on their books. The moment it is repealed, we are more than happy to offer our slots to any Aussie who wants to play. If we had it our way, we'd offer our slots to everyone who wants to play them.

However, we're trying as best we can to be the good guys. While it means leaving money on the table, we will not participate in any juristiction that outlaws online gambling. Period.

The high road is not always the easiest to travel.

 

[TheLastCylon]

I asked for the data two and a half months ago. And then asked again in this thread. IGT has still not provided it.

I want data from the top-down. IGT only has scattered data in PDF files on their website, some of which are value ranges, and others which do not line up with the posted data from IGT clients.

As far as I'm concerned, they do not provide their T-RTP data.

This leaves Net Entertainment as the only major software provider that is supplying T-RTP data individually for all of their games on their website. I would like to see statistical auditing of their games, as well, but that's besides the point. I think that they deserve recognition and business.