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If it's not ROGUE and it's not Accredited....

Discussion in 'Ask the Meister' started by Diane, Feb 15, 2011.

    Feb 15, 2011
  1. Diane

    Diane Ueber Meister PABnoaccred

    Occupation:
    Consultant - HR
    Location:
    WI
    I always start at those two lists when I am contacted by a new casino or see an ad that interests me. But as good as those lists are -- there is a huge amount of casinos that fall in between.

    If online casino is not on either list, then I do a "search" of the forum to see if I can find anything out that way.

    If that fails................then what should I do? Throw the casino name out there for the good people of this forum to comment on?

    Current situation in front of me. A VIP Manager leaves one site and moves to another casino. He has been helpful to me in past at former casino so I am favorably inclined to do business with him again as my VIP contact.

    He contacts me, offers wonderful sign up bonuses, promises personalized attention etc.......but it's a casino I have never heard of and I want to research it before I decide to deposit.

    What's the best way to decide if I give it a try?

    Thanks in advance,

    Diane
     
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  3. Cabrair32

    Cabrair32 Banned User - bogus PAB - player fraud PABnorogue PABnoaccred

    Occupation:
    Jobless unfortunately
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    One thing is that if they are really a New casino then they would not have yet had time to become rogued or accredited. I would say to just make a post asking for experience from other members if you have a casino that looks interesting.
     
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  5. Webzcas

    Webzcas Winter is Coming! Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Webmaster
    Location:
    Block S25, South Stand, Ashton Gate, BS3
    Watch the latest Casinomeister Webcast, as Bryan covers this :thumbsup:

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Google. Google the casino name and add rogue or problem after it.

    As a rule I will err on the side of caution. I get contacted all the time by casinos that want me to promote them. But I am extremely selective. If a casino is not on the accredited list here on CM, I would avoid.

    The reason being, there is more than enough choice on the accredited list and as a player and Casinomeister member, you have a very real recourse if you are unfortunate to run into any difficulties.
     
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  7. Diane

    Diane Ueber Meister PABnoaccred

    Occupation:
    Consultant - HR
    Location:
    WI
    _________________________________________
    It's not a new casino, but new to this VIP Manager. It is also a different software platform with new (new to me....) games I haven't had a chance to play before so that's part of the allure.

    Thanks for the post.

    Diane
     
  8. Feb 16, 2011
  9. Jasminebed

    Jasminebed Closer to 100 than Birth

    Occupation:
    Not in workforce
    Location:
    Ontario
    Many casinos have reps here on this board, even if they are not accredited. That's something I look for too.
     
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  10. Feb 16, 2011
  11. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Ask me! :thumbsup:
    I'm pretty aware of most online casinos, so name them & I'll say if I think they are OK or dodgy...

    KK
     
  12. Feb 16, 2011
  13. Da_Gambla

    Da_Gambla Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Code Monkey
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Going in without much information is referred to as 'taking one for the team' :D

    Having a good relationship with your VIP should keep you safe at first. Obviously this VIP wants to build something with the new operator, so I seriously doubt they'd pull anything on you. New PR campaigns always start out warm and fuzzy, and everything's great! Just stay reserved, and of course, don't 'go all in'. Listen to your instincts over time. :thumbsup:

    - Keith
     
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  15. petro

    petro Dormant account, per user request PABnoaccred2 PABaccred

    Occupation:
    N/A
    Location:
    Narnia
    Actually I have encountered 2 casinos so far which I know refuse to deal with mediators like CM. And these do not fall under the Rogue or recommended. One being William Hill.
     
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  17. all4greed

    all4greed Now we can do business.

    Occupation:
    Misc.
    Location:
    Pacific NW
    I've had good luck with google by typing the word complaints after the casino name. There are lots of places where gamblers complain.
     
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  19. Diane

    Diane Ueber Meister PABnoaccred

    Occupation:
    Consultant - HR
    Location:
    WI
    Thanks.

    LOL............loved your comment about gamblers complaining. I used to think it was just poker players that loved to complain. It is a much larger group.

    Diane
     
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  21. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Eh? :what: We're not mediators, and I have relatively a good rapport with WH's administration believe it or not :p.

    Like Webzcas mentioned, I briefly cover how to chose a casino in the last webcast. In fact, I should make one dedicated to this subject since it can be much more detailed and tricky.

    Rule of thumb, only trust casinos that are listed on websites that you trust. Now this can be quite subjective, but it's a good rule of thumb. But the decision is strictly your own.

    Going back to the list. There are a number of casinos that are not listed simply because they don't meet the requirements to be listed. The areas where many casinos fail to meet are the following:

    • No outsourced support
    • No white lables
    • Must pay progressives in a lump sum (*Wagerworks are exempt from this rule)

    I should also add that I don't go looking for casinos to list here. They come to me, and when we agree on the Casinomeister philosophy and attitude towards players and affiliates, and they meet the standards, then we talk about the Baptism by Fire section. After 60 days of players testing them out then they move on to Accredited status.

    There are a number of big name casinos not listed simply because they haven't shown interest. Honestly, I like dealing with the smaller operations since the owners are more involved with the day-to-day operations.

    Knowledge is power and there is enough of it here to square you away:

    http://www.casinomeister.com/accredited_casinos.php
    http://www.casinomeister.com/philosophy.php
    http://www.casinomeister.com/casino-research/
    http://www.casinomeister.com/casino_pick.php
     
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  22. Feb 16, 2011
  23. Diane

    Diane Ueber Meister PABnoaccred

    Occupation:
    Consultant - HR
    Location:
    WI
    Bryan - you are absolutely correct. Your relationships with the smaller places (and some big ones) are what make this site so special for us players. We feel safe and trust you to tell it straight. I am so glad I found this site after bumbling around on my own. Since December 2009 I stopped being the online "Ploppy" who foolishly bounced around from some supposed great offer only to be disappointed or hassled by fighting to get paid.

    I appreciate what you have built here and have benefitted it from it every single day since I joined CM. I continue to learn, get better, and then love to share my experiences good and bad.

    Thanks for all you and your team do on our behalf. Thanks also to Max, Simmo for their sharing and help.
    Diane
     
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