I Funded My NetSpend Visa and Was Ripped Off..

Update edited in to my last post near the bottom. Excitin', ain't it?[/QUOTE]

Actually it is, as we are rolling down the highway I'm catching up on all the news:D I was thinking of getting a Netspend (I am now getting paranoid that my litle ole bank is going to come after me for using my Visa to play, play, play) ! Now I will have to rethink this...that and it seems no one could use it anyway in the last couple of days.

All I can say is "Good luck Bernie" and maybe you could sue, end up owning Rite Aid and come out with your own prepaid VISA (only good at gambling sites):lolup:
 
...a rhetorical question to which the answer was assumed to be a GIMMIE, ww! lol

Well gimmie then...

LMAO!


Oh hey - anyone worried about Netspend - DO NOT.

Netspend ROCKS for us gamblers - period.

This isn't a transaction with Netspend issue - this is someone STEALING money - and having found a way to do it - and hoping they won't get caught.
 
Oh oh oh oh - make sure if you DO get a netspend - that you get a RELOADABLE one - and that you also see that it has INTER National bank on it.

OK?

This is semi important.

Again Netspend realizes quite clearly that we gamblers are primarily using it.
 
OF PARTICULAR INTEREST:
I am able to access my account history and the $16 that was in the perp's NetSpend account has been transferred via "P2P reversal" back into my account.

Now this would be the fun part. During the investigation see how much of the jackass who stole your money's info you can get and when the dust settles, transfer his last 38 dollars into your account! :D
 
I was thinking of getting a Netspend (I am now getting paranoid that my Little ole bank is going to come after me for using my Visa to play, play, play)

You're not actually using a bank card or a real credit card issued from you bank, ARE you? I have never, EVER exposed my credit or bank records for anything online!!! I wouldn't buy a $2, used paperback from Amazon with my Platinum Plus Visa! That card is reserved only for totally legit purposes like medical marijuana and happy finishes at Lotus Flower Massage! I can only suggest that you don't if you haven't and quit if you are for a myriad of reasons only one of which is the one you mentioned. I'm not tryin' to scare you or nuthin' but if you're using "real" plastic online then you need to have your head examined!! :eek:

Here's the dealio: get any reloadable Visa that is convenient for you to reload securely in your area. Go to the major grocery and drug stores and see what they have hangin' (on the gift card merchandiser) then read the the terms of what's offered then talk to the manager to see that they can swipe to load - either the card itself of the reload-paks you'll pick up each time thru. If there's and Ace Cash Express close to you, try that but check their business hours and see if that's flexible enough for you and if not, alternatively you'll want to find a Rite-Aid or Piggly Wiggly or whatever that services the card you wind up with.

If your in the US, I recommend only using a prepaid card to fund QuickTender and then use them exclusively for depositing into you casino accounts. NOBODY's ever gonna crack QuickTender. They use a bunch of aliases for card transactions. It'll cost you anywhere from $2-4.95 to load the card (unless you do direct deposit -free) then 5% off the top for loading QuickTender + the transaction fee to the card (usually a buck) so I try try to load QuickTender with $500 at least to keep the costs as close to 6% as possible. When you cash out to QuickTender, (I like casinos that get the money there in a matter of hours)they'll charge you $20 to wire transfer whatever to your bank then you pay your bank their fee so playing for $150 gains for US players is kinda out, IMO.

NetSpend Visa, by the way, was actually a listed deposit method at many online casinos at one time. So they ain't proud and wont give you up.

Now this would be the fun part. During the investigation see how much of the jackass who stole your money's info you can get and when the dust settles, transfer his last 38 dollars into your account! :D

What you consider fun and what I consider fun obviously reside in separate parallel universes. lol As far as I'm concerned I'm already WAY past the point of diminished returns for chasin' this money. If NetSpend tries to burn me I'll just shoot the CEO the link to this thread with a note saying, "...was this worth the $180? Cuz' it damn sure was to me!"

Curiosity here, why should it say Inter Bank instead of MetaBank? I have never had one minutes trouble with mine and it worked too well this weekend.

Yeah, Wager Witch, what's the diff? In 5+ years I've never seen anything but Meta Bank NetSpends. My new Only1 Visa is Meta Bank and the other "chick" brand card I saw was too.
 
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Well well well - cool then.

Cause I think at first the Meta bank ones were not working at the casinos.

But if they are now - NEBBBERMIND....
 
What you consider fun and what I consider fun obviously reside in separate parallel universes. lol As far as I'm concerned I'm already WAY past the point of diminished returns for chasin' this money. If NetSpend tries to burn me I'll just shoot the CEO the link to this thread with a note saying, "...was this worth the $180? Cuz' it damn sure was to me!"

As if that ironic little kick in the butt would have anything to do with money.
 
...by the Time I Got Home and Online!

The most recent history showed my funding the card for $195.50 and within an hour or so there's an "IVR Balance Inquiry Fee" of .50 then a $4.95 debit labeled "P2P fee" and a final debit labeled "P2P" with a "user" specified by a 10 didget number (phone number) of $180.00!!! I didn't know that NetSpend was offering user to user transfers via phone! I also didn't know (and was never told) that a carbon copy of the form I filled out with the Visa number filled in was stapled to the back of So someone got my card number, invested $13.70 - $3.95 in a NetSpend account and $10.75, tax included, in a cell phone phone (number already no good) and cleared $166.30!

Their offices had been closed for a half an hour by then but here's what I think happened:

For the first time in 5 years I used Western Union to fund my NetSpend Visa at Rite Aid last week and have loaded my Visa there several times since then(Issued by Meta Bank the same as Western Union's branded Visa). Rite-Aid is closer to me than CVS (MoneyGram), the same fee ($4.50 up to $5k, I think) and easier than MoneyGram (MoneyGram you gotta go through the automated voice prompt dealio on the red kiosk phone - never 1 problem in years!) With WU grab a gray, "Pre-Paid Services Form", fill in your card number, the amount your funding and sign. Hand the form and the money to a checker and voil! It was also the first time I had to write down my Visa card number in the loading process thereby exposing it to every Rite-Aid employee and, hence, probably their extended families, too! And now this!! I wonder what kind a damage control NetSpend is gonna jerk me around with tomorrow (er, today I mean - in 2 hours and fifty-five minutes!) when I call.....? We'll see!


Thanks for posting this. I never had an issue with quicktender but now that I read this, I am not taking any chances. I deleted my main Bank card from the site and opened up another one only for quicktender deposits.I'm sorry for what your going through. I do hope your situation gets resolved.
 
Thanks for posting this. I never had an issue with quicktender but now that I read this, I am not taking any chances. I deleted my main Bank card from the site and opened up another one only for quicktender deposits.I'm sorry for what your going through. I do hope your situation gets resolved.

Good thinking and thanks. I'm glad it was only a NetSpend dealio in the first place with only the $180.00 at stake. I easily added the "Only1 Visa" to QuickTender and it works fine.

Asking to see the actual NS card is SOP...I forget where, but it clearly says on the NS site that you have to show the card to the clerk when you fund it via WU..

If that's the case, then even better. By requiring the NetSpend user to physically hand the card over to a (in my case) Rite-Aid store clerk during a WU load, NOT only is the card number compromised but the CVV as well! Thanks, winbig! It would have never occurred to me in a million years that what I thought had been put over on me was actually a required part of the procedure and stipulated by NetSpend.
 
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I never had a problem with paypal loading. That is how I always do it, but I sell on ebay for a living and most of my paypal money goes in my regular bank. The amount I put on my card is nothing compared to that.

I had no idea they would close an account. If they are doing that , netspend should take the instructions for adding paypal funds to the card off the site.
 
...I had no idea they would close an account. If they are doing that , netspend should take the instructions for adding paypal funds to the card off the site.

Why would NetSpend cut off that revenue stream when they can profit right up until PayPal takes action?

If NetSpend had any scruples this thread wouldn't exist.

I had a PayPal account for years. No more. Not for 5 years now. But that's another story...
 
Ha! Don't get me started! If you think this thread is scary, you don't even wanna hear the true horrors about PayPal. Your **** would fall off! I was fortunate enough to have been alerted and able to wash my hands of PayPal 5 years ago. PayPal IS the Anti-Christ!

I've heard horror stories about PayPal, but I've been using them for Ebay for years and to fund NetSpend for months and no problems.
 
I've heard horror stories about PayPal, but I've been using them for Ebay for years and to fund NetSpend for months and no problems.

I started with PayPal when they were still called Billpoint. I'm sure you wont have any problems using them to fund your prepaid Visa but if you ever decide to sell in a major way on eBay you might do a little research before deciding to rely on PayPal in a major capacity. I just don't mess with them any more outta principle.
 
This is just an update. I know many of those who have posted to this thread have migrated to my QT thread, https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/omg-quicktender-thats-not-my-credit-card.34669/, but for those who haven't, the following email, which I just sent to NetSpend, moments ago, is a possible link between the two dealios:

Dear [email protected]:

Yesterday, in my QuickTender (quicktender.com) account list of deposit methods, I found a Visa credit card listed that isn't mine and that I did not list (see attached screenshot). I don't know who Ari Danaci is nor do I know how his Visa ending in 8605 came to be listed in my QT account.

Don't ask me why but I just thought that, perhaps, this may be related, somehow, to NetSpend user 210571838's theft, via NetSpend's P2P service, of my money which, it just so happens, is the very matter being investigated by you as described in the reference number and claim number displayed in the subject of this very email. If not it's a heck of a coincidence. But I figured it wouldn't hurt to forward this info to you, in any case.

Call me "crazy"!

Sincerely,

(bernynhel)
 
Please keep us updated on this issue, it worries me as I have just started using my quicktender.

This is the NetSpend thread, dearie. :lolup:

However, I was in my NetSpend account and I wanted to use the "secure inbox" feature to but a bug in their ear via the website's internal email, and guess what? My PIN wouldn't work!! So I hadda call NetSpend and they emailed me a new PIN but when I got to my "secure inbox..."

"LOOK! Someone's been using my "secure inbox!!", exclaimed Baby Bear, "and there they are!!"

The thief, on Nov 13, the day I was ripped off had used the internal email feature on NetSpends website and there's the CSrs nasty trailings:

"11/13/2009 7:46PM cardholder transfer

I'm trying to make a cardholder trnsfer, and i was prompted to send a message from my secure inbox"


NetSpend Chester's reply to thief:

Dear (THIEF!!! -bernynhel),

Thank you for contacting NetSpend customer care. We apologize for the delayed response.

We understand that there was a block on your account.

Our records indicate that a customer service representative already assisted you with your concern.

We would like to inform you that your account is eligible for Direct Deposit. If you are receiving social security checks, IRS checks or pay checks, they can be easily deposited into your account absolutely for free.

If there is anything else we can do to assist you, please do not hesitate to contact us via email or call customer service at 1-86-NetSpend (1-866-387-7363). Answers to frequently asked questions and self-help options can be found online at Old / Expired Link.

Thank you for choosing NetSpend.

Chester
Customer Care Specialist
netspend.com: 2001-2009 : Terms & Conditions : Privacy Policy : Contact Us


Sooo now I write:

This is (bernynhel) writing THIS TIME! I logged onto my account today to see what, if anything, is happening. I was unable to access my secure inbox as my PIN , apparently, had been changed. I have used the same PIN since April 27, 2007 and my first NetSpend Card But today I tried to access my "secure" inbox and received the error message, "Invalid PIN".
So I was just emailed a new PIN, a few minutes ago. This is the first time I have used this email feature since 8/24/2009, however, I see someone else has used it. I see in the "Sent Items", "11/13/2009 7:46PM cardholder transfer" with the message, "I'm trying to make a cardholder trnsfer, and i was pormpted to send a message from my secure inbox". That message was not written by me. I have never tried to make a "cardholder trnsfer" and I see from the time of this message, this message was sent by persons unknown to me shortly after I last funded my card and just prior to my finding that I had been robbed. Chester replied to the thief's message: "Dear William,Thank you for contacting NetSpend...Our records indicate that a customer service representative already assisted you with your concern. We would like to inform you that your account is eligible for Direct Deposit... .
Chester
Customer Care Specialist."

You're more concerned with direct deposits than protecting your customers!!!

FYI, read an ongoing dicussion about NetSpend, here:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/i-funded-my-netspend-visa-and-was-ripped-off.34577/

When you're finished, please refund the $185.45 [Debit: Balance Inquiry - IVR (-$0.50), Debit: P2P Fee (-$4.95) and Debit: $180.00 to user 2105718348 - (-$180.00)] that you allowed user 2105718348 to walk away with on November 13 without my authorization.
-(bernynhel)
 
So berny, any progress? See the QT issue was resolved for you at long last, but this is they one where someone stole your money.

Seems like too much of a coincidence (kinda like hitting an RTG jackpot) to be random that they happened within hours of each other.

I know that you said Netspend no need to involve the police for claims under $300, but I suspect that you are not the only victim.

I hate to see the bad guys get away with stuff.
 
So berny, any progress? See the QT issue was resolved for you at long last, but this is they one where someone stole your money.

Seems like too much of a coincidence (kinda like hitting an RTG jackpot) to be random that they happened within hours of each other.

I know that you said Netspend no need to involve the police for claims under $300, but I suspect that you are not the only victim.

I hate to see the bad guys get away with stuff.

Unannounced and without any preamble, A Mr. Ruben Casillas of NetSpend's Disputes Dept did telephone - while I was last minute shopping the day before ThanksGiving. I heard his voice mail, kind of - no caller ID from the 512 - unexpected. It was Wednesday, November 25, 2:15 PM PST (4:15 PM NetSpend time). I immediately returned the call to the number Mr. Casillas mumbled (like the rest of his voicemail - the number was in the call log or I wouldn't ever have even known who called, Ruben was unintelligible) so at 4:16 PM I got Ruben's voicemail. I thanked him for calling earlier, wished him a Happy Thanksgiving and expressed sincere eagerness to hear from him, again, when he returns to work. And that I'll be anticipating his call.

If you do the math, that's the 10th business day after I reported the theft of my $185.45 from my account to NetSpend. Exactly the maximum time frame "Charlotte" of NetSpend disputes quoted me in her monotone when I was to hear back from someone.

Oh! Here's a screenshot of the transaction details! (below) I hadn't had a chance to post a screenshot earlier cuz my account was locked.

$195.50 -The bottom transaction is me funding the card. Notice it says I loaded the card at "PRONTO FOOD MART AND MEXICAN GRILL"? I load my card at Albertson's.

-$0.50 - Next is the thief's balance inquiry (so he'd know how much to request at the ATM)

-$4.95 - This is the fee charged to my account for the transfer the thief requested, NetSpend's convenient new feature, Person to Person (I don't even know what NetSpend calls it - one moronic prepaid card calls their similar service "Buddy Money") transfers. Do it online or by calling a toll-free telephone number. It's quick! It's easy! And you can transfer anybody's money without their knowledge or authorization - they just need to be a NetSpend customer!

-$180.00 - The theft

$16.00 - This is the "left over" balance in the thief's NetSpend account after withdrawing his loot via ATM. The credit is a reversal of the original transaction, er, kinda, minus $164.00 is all.

So, hopefully, I'll speak to Mr.Casillas tomorrow and get credit for the rest.

Or, how does this sound:

If You Own or Used to OWN an All Access Prepaid Visa Card or a NetSpend Prepaid Visa Card Purchased at an Ace Cash Express Location or from any other retailer acting as a NetSpend Agent and if You are the Victim of a Recent Theft Because Someone, Unknown to You and Without Your Knowledge or Authorization, Transfered Your Money to Their Account and All Access or NetSpend Has Not Reimbursed You, CALL 1-800-THE CHEESEYLAWERS NOW to Participate In a Nationwide Class Action Suit Against Ace Cash Express/All Access Prepaid Visa Card/NetSpend Prepaid Visa Card!
 
I remember something you posted a long while back Bern, about how you went to fund your pre paid card and the girl swiped it twice, in the amount of 500.00 or something like that, what about the poor girl or guy and store that had to eat that loss or did you pay it back to the store and say hey you all made a mistake, i just remember that post, dont know how to find it but isnt this kinda the shoe is on the other foot now?

I dont want to seem harsh but i do remember you bragging about how you got one over on them, did you make that mistake good and let them know about it ?..................laurie
 
I remember something you posted a long while back Bern, about how you went to fund your pre paid card and the girl swiped it twice, in the amount of 500.00 or something like that, what about the poor girl or guy and store that had to eat that loss or did you pay it back to the store and say hey you all made a mistake, i just remember that post, don't know how to find it but isn't this kinda the shoe is on the other foot now?

I don't want to seem harsh but i do remember you bragging about how you got one over on them, did you make that mistake good and let them know about it ?..................laurie

I honestly don't remember the incident. Nor do I remember "bragging" about it, either. I'm also not denying it. After all, if you say so then it must be true, right, laurie?

So, in the case that I didn't do the right thing and let the store know about the double swipe and repay the 500.00, (or something like that) is your point that I had no business starting this thread simply because NetSpend was just a vehicle used by Karma to get back at me for what I had dished out and that I should have just sucked it up and kept my big mouth shut?

And if I did make it good, what's the difference in regards to NetSpend's relationship to the members of this forum and the possible risks involved in that relationship that CM members might have been unaware of?

You can rest assured that if the "double swipe" incident you described actually happened, and if it was actually something I was ever involved with, and if I never did the right thing and make it good, that Karma has come back to bite me in the ass tenfoldlong before this NetSpend (NS) incident. But if it hadn't is your point that since I'm no saint, CM members don't deserve to know what I have experienced and posted here?

Also, and I've never mentioned this here, I am certain, and only bring up now, not to brag, because I'm not proud of it, but to show, as contrast, to what may or not be the point you have neglected to state, I am guilty of crimes far more serious than one had I walked away with some cash due to the error of someone else with no pre-meditation on my part. I have masterminded, and gotten away with evil that took months of planning, knowing, all along, down to the penny, exactly how much hurt I was going to exact from a precise number of men, women and children.

OK. So maybe I am a bad guy. So because I'm a bad guy, I shouldn't share with CM members in this forum? CM members who may have had their accounts compromised by NS by using Western Union (WU) to fund their accounts, thinking everything is safe and secure?

Who have you killed, lately, laurie? Don't answer! It's a rhetorical question. You probably didn't kill anybody. Who knows?
I don't. I don't even know you. But even if you had killed someone, laurie I wouldn't care who you killed. Or didn't kill. Of if. Why don't I care? Because it's irrelevant to the mission of this forum, IMHO, and to this thread, definitely. And if did care, then I would confront you about it via PM and not in a public forum where to confront you would serve no useful point other than to, by some wild stretch of the imagination, embarrass you because I have some latent hard-on for you that I've, somehow, managed to suppress up until now.

I'm not trying to seem "harsh" here, it just comes naturally. And I'm only not trying to be harsh because I've promised that I wouldn't. Even if I am being baited via attack without provocation.

And I could have replied to your post via PM and probably should have but, as we all now know, I'm a bad guy.

A recap of the point of this thread, if I may go back on track, now:

NS suggests that one may use WU to fund a NS account.

NS stipulates that NS customers must have their NS cards present to fund via WU.

To fund NS via WU, one must write the 16 digit card number on the WU Prepaid Services (gray) form. A carbon copy of the form is stapled to the back of the WU receipt (a fact I was unaware of and never informed of until after I was ripped off).

If asked by the WU agent (in my case, three different Rite - Aid employees - none of them bonded) NS customers must present their cards exposing all of the information needed for thieves to rip them off. (Each time a Rite - Aid employee walked away a few feet from me with my card, apparently checking the card number I had written on the WU form against the actual card. Each time any one of them could have gotten a look at the CVV code on the back. I never took my eyes off them once they had my card and it didn't occur to me when the card was out of my view that the clerks might have just as easily been looking at the back and not the front. Every time they only stepped away for a few seconds).

With the account number and CVV code, using phony names and social security numbers without ever so much as needing fake IDs (No ID is required to open a NS account) thieves can simply open a NetSpend Account, purchase an untraceable, no-contract cell phone, and then, call a toll-free number provided by NS for the sole purpose of making "Cardholder Transfers" (CT - transfer of funds between NS cuatomer accounts for a fee of $4.95) and, impersonating their victims and after having made a balance inquiry, online (from a library or cyber cafe) or via telephone, move their victim's money into their new NetSpend account so they may extract the cash via ATM.(NetSpend knows the name of thuse NS's "Cardholdere perp in my case and that the account the perp used was never funded other than the required $10 when the account was first opened and that the perp abandoned the account as well as the phone number the perp registered with NS. There are no records of anyone fitting the description of the perp based on the information given to either NS or the cell phone company used by the perp, according to NS investigators).

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. In my first post I mentioned that "Charlotte" of NS's dispute department specifically told me, even after I pressed her on the issue, that filing a police report was not required and would have no bearing on the outcome of my "dispute" since the "disputed amount" was under $300.00. Well, a Mr. Ruben Casillas, the investigator in my case, just called to inform me, well past the deadline of 10 days I was promised for the resolution of my "dispute," that I must NOW file a Police Report, obtain a HARD COPY and send it via USPS CERTIFIED SNAIL MAIL in order for NS to consider my "dispute" any further. I suggested to Mr Casillas that he, and NetSpend may pursue my "dispute" up their collective ASSES as far as I'm concerned. I'll simply write off the $185.45 to experience, move on, and hope that I have helped someone else avoid the same pitfall. I have 2 new NS Visas and I will NEVER fund them via any method that compromises the security of my account info.
 
I don't care how much or little money it is, if someone screwed me like this, I'd have their asses for it. Why are you so against filing a police report? Sure you were going to use it for online gambling, but it's hardly illegal to fund a pre-paid CC.

I also remember the incident where your card was funded 2x$500.
 
Here is the problem with NS. They are in fact backed by a bank. That bank is required by law to follow the rules. Anytime a fraudulent charge is made the customer has RIGHT to dispute that charge. NS can not simply just brush off customers the way they are doing to berny. The comptroller of the US fields complaints about banks. I would let them know you will be calling and filing a complaint. I guarantee you they will get off their behinds and work out the issue. I had to file a complaint with them once when an atm in NYC ripped off my debit card number because the bank refused to help. I had a call back and $ credited about 4 hours after I told them I filed the complaint. :D
 
I remember something you posted a long while back Bern, about how you went to fund your pre paid card and the girl swiped it twice, in the amount of 500.00 or something like that...

Sorry about the double post, here, but I just remembered the incident, so no need for you to "find it" cuz here it is: You're exactly right, laurie, I went to Ace Cash Express near my home in L.A. on Venice at National. I gave $502.00 to load my NS Visa Card. The gal behind the glass swiped my card but said it didn't go through and asked for my card back, swiped it again, said, "OK" and passed by card back to me under the glass. When I got home, I found that my NS balance was $1,000. I had a ball. I didn't even go back to that ACE store cuzza my windfall might have been rescinded. It was, any, way, eventually they got me when my NS balance was over $500. Poof! Easy come, easy go.

There. Still, how was that useful? To anybody? I'm not mad at you, so don't get me wrong! I'm just glad I'm not you.
 
Maybe you and the thieves deserve each other? Seems you're winning - $180 vs $500...

Do you have any morals? I'm sure someone at that check cashing place had to eat the money, the same as you are doing now; and if you want to get technical, they would have every right to file charges against you to get that $500 back. I'd be amazed if that clerk in question didn't get fired.


I'm not sure why they didn't pursue it, so consider yourself lucky.

Here's the OP if anyone is interested:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/anyone-reloadable-netspend-not-working.23609/

Karma:
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I don't care how much or little money it is, if someone screwed me like this, I'd have their asses for it. Why are you so against filing a police report? Sure you were going to use it for online gambling, but it's hardly illegal to fund a pre-paid CC.

I also remember the incident where your card was funded 2x$500.

So what's your point about the 2x$500? How is that useful? I remember it too, (read down.) Is this thread now irrelevant? Or was lj's post about the "extra 500" + your 2 cents just more relevant? Any further discussion, from anybody, regarding any aspect regarding the "extra 500" I'll be happy to address via PM. Go ahead! Bring it!

In answer to a relevant point you made: I'm already past the point of diminishing returns on the $180. Another second of my time invested in the recovery of the $180 is simply additional loss to me. That includes wasting more time on police reports after NS told me on 11/14 that no police report was necessary.

That I'm expected to answer to petty BS contained in irrelevant posts that have nothing to do with the issue but everything to do with personalities and the popularity contest so many here eagerly invest so much time in, isn't helping.

As far as having someone's ass, I have appointments with 2 law firms who are considering a class action against NetSpend. They think, as do I, that enough people are getting ripped off like I did to warrant it. This has nothing to do with the $180 or diminished turns. This is all about get-back! Also, consider the following, my final communication to NetSpend on this matter:
 
Maybe you and the thieves deserve each other? Seems you're winning - $180 vs $500...

Do you have any morals? I'm sure someone at that check cashing place had to eat the money, the same as you are doing now; and if you want to get technical, they would have every right to file charges against you to get that $500 back. I'd be amazed if that clerk in question didn't get fired.


I'm not sure why they didn't pursue it, so consider yourself lucky.

Here's the OP if anyone is interested:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/anyone-reloadable-netspend-not-working.23609/

Karma:
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This wasnt meant as a slam at you, well really it was to be honest, my best friend is a manager at one of these check cashing places, 3 kids, no husband, she did the same thing as the clerk did for you and guess what, she had to replace the 300.00 herself over get demoted, so she paid the 300.00 out of her check, her kids didnt go hungry that week as she had to borrow money from me to make it on till the next pay period, so yes Bern, it pissed me off that you gave so little concern about that lady who made the mistake as everyone suffers from a snowball affect.

I have no ill will towards you, but with a couple of threads you have going about how you got ripped off , it made me remember how my poor friend felt and how she got ripped off also......................laurie
 
This wasnt meant as a slam at you, well really it was to be honest, my best friend is a manager at one of these check cashing places, 3 kids, no husband, she did the same thing as the clerk did for you and guess what, she had to replace the 300.00 herself over get demoted, so she paid the 300.00 out of her check, her kids didnt go hungry that week as she had to borrow money from me to make it on till the next pay period, so yes Bern, it pissed me off that you gave so little concern about that lady who made the mistake as everyone suffers from a snowball affect.

I have no ill will towards you, but with a couple of threads you have going about how you got ripped off , it made me remember how my poor friend felt and how she got ripped off also......................laurie

there should be a reply to this in your PMs laurie
 
All it would take on the part of Netspend is to have a pin number for your netspend account to make a balance inquiry or a transfer. I have to enter my pin to access telephone banking or my credit card.

I have heard of banks denying claims for un-authorized use of debit cards when the pin was four identical digits or 1234.

And thanks so much for detailed instructions for any wanna-be thieves out there.:rolleyes:
 
I followed this bullshit thread just to see what may come of it.

I've concluded that if bernynhel lost his NetSpend card more then seven times as he said in other thread where he also states he beat the teller out of $500.00 dollars, and had 2 cards active at one time; something is really starting to stink around here.
 
Even if they got their money back, something doesn't sit right...there's no reason you shouldn't take this up with the police.

I've given every reason possible why I shouldn't take this up with police.
1. I've written off the loss
2. I don't need any further aggravation over the deal
3. I've replaced the card
4. I've sought to inspire a class action against NetSpend
5. A thousand more reasons, ad nauseum

Nevertheless, since you only see what you want to see, please see closely, again, here: Link Outdated / Removed
and read the small print in my email to NetSpend, near the bottom of the first screenshot, not that I have to justify my actions to you or to anybody else.

And you can sit something in any position you fancy, for all I care. What have I got to gain or lose from it? I started this thread to help CM members avoid the same situation. Not for all the love and support I'm getting for my efforts from the peanut gallery.

The same PM you sent me that was fwd'd to Bryan and Simmo? I feel a ban coming on.

As if I ever thought you'd just handle your own business and not run and tell mommy. :lolup:

All it would take on the part of Netspend is to have a pin number for your netspend ...thanks so much for detailed instructions for any wanna-be thieves out there.:rolleyes:

My posts are not theories. This is exactly how my money was stolen according to NetSpends own investigation.

I followed this bullshit thread just to see what may come of it. I've concluded that if bernynhel lost his NetSpend card more then seven times as he said in other thread where he also states he beat the teller out of $500.00 dollars, and had 2 cards active at one time; something is really starting to stink around here.

As if I care what you smell. I have two active cards because the only outlet for NetSpend is 40 miles from here. They cost $3.95 each and only require a $10 load with purchase. I've used NetSpend cards since before joining CM. I often had multiple accounts to aid in tracking deposits at different casinos. It's NOT a puzzle. But if you think I give a care as to what you've concluded, or if you've made the mistake of thinking that I've posted a single word of this thread to please YOU, then, be certain, I've concluded something, too. But I wouldn't have the bad manners to air what that is in a public forum, nor would I, since I don't even know you, bother with a PM.

I'm done with this thread. You all can heed or ignore any part of it or all of it. I just wish I had the time back I've wasted in posting here. Believe me, nothing has changed one iota in my dispute with NetSpend as a result of a single post to this thread, other than my own.

Does anyone really think I give a flip about even one of the opinions any of the above quotes express about me, personally? The only reason I have even bothered answering to a single quote here, is the same reason that I started this thread to begin with: so that someone reading this thread won't just think its just "bullshit" and, hopefully, avoid a loss. And if anyone doubts my word on any of it, then just ask yourself, what possible benefit could I derive from spending so much time and effort just for the sake of fabricating a single word of it? I, for one, am at a loss to understand what benefit a single one of my above detractors could possibly be seeking in exchange for their negative comments, let alone any justification for making such posts in the first place.

Furthermore, when I added $1000 to that NetSpend account a fairly short while after the "extra $500" was accidentally loaded into my account, $500 of it vanished. (https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/anyone-reloadable-netspend-not-working.23609/ that post, by the way, from March 2008. Not half the uproar then that there is now, and winbig never said a word against it - then! -just a post complaining that his NetSpend wouldn't work at casino such-and-such. Hmmm.) Not a trace of the "extra 500" in my transaction history. The original depit description disappeared and there was no entry for the "vanishing $500". Just an extra $500 in unexplained debits that made the math all wrong. I didn't bother filing a complaint, naturally. To be honest, before loading the $1000, I loaded $20 and hung around for a half an hour or so to see what happened, just to be on the "safe" side, all the while with the $1000 in my pocket. The lady who made the error only mentioned it once. Never a word from NetSpend. And they had my real address and phone number. So did I load the $1000 just cuz I'm stupid? Did I load the $1000 really thinking half of it was going to vanish and square me and NetSpend? I don't know. I probably wouldn't have ever used that card again but I lost the one I was using and didn't want to take a chance being limited to using a new and therefore, as yet, un-personalized card. Besides, WHO CARES?!?! It's a moral issue. It's STILL got nothing to do with this thread, now, does it? :lolup:

P.S. A public apology to winbig for my private post; Sorry, when I feel I'm under attack I'm, uh, not so nice.
 
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I don't know why I'm even bothering. Seems like I'm addressing nothing more than a bunch of nattering nabobs of negativism and, believe me, there was a time I would rather have had my tongue cut out than to quote Spiro Agnew. But nothing is too good for my fellow CM members.

It is with that preamble I present "Victory!" The following attachment, my victory lap. Who bad now, sukkas?
 
Sorry about the double post, here, but I just remembered the incident, so no need for you to "find it" cuz here it is: You're exactly right, laurie, I went to Ace Cash Express near my home in L.A. on Venice at National. I gave $502.00 to load my NS Visa Card. The gal behind the glass swiped my card but said it didn't go through and asked for my card back, swiped it again, said, "OK" and passed by card back to me under the glass. When I got home, I found that my NS balance was $1,000. I had a ball. I didn't even go back to that ACE store cuzza my windfall might have been rescinded. It was, any, way, eventually they got me when my NS balance was over $500. Poof! Easy come, easy go.

There. Still, how was that useful? To anybody? I'm not mad at you, so don't get me wrong! I'm just glad I'm not you.

Bern this is where I have to disagree with you. When I make a deposit to my card I look at the receipt before I leave the store. IMHO I would of went back and told that girl she gave me 500 too much. There is a saying that what goes around goes around. That girl could of gotten fired maybe could of had criminal charges brought against her. A lot of things could of transpired. I'm just saying though.
 
hi bernynhel in one of ur post you said you did,nt need to show i.d in order to get a netspend card. here where i live they make you show i.d before you can get a netspend card. and belive me i know everyone at the check cashing place and i still had to show i.d they told me netspend will not give you one without i.d and in some cases you had to prove that you were a u.s cizien. i know when i frist got one that they did,nt do that but just the other day i got one again and they now do. i just read in one of the post that they said something about you having more then one card. whats the big deal about that i at one time had 4 cards. i,m down to 2 right now. its nobodys business how many cards one person has if they want to pay the fees. some of the post here has nothing to do with what this thread is all about and i,m glad that bernynhel posted about what he is going though caz i will watch mine more closely as if i don,t now lol. but i,m glad caz its a heads up about what could happen.
 
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I remember something you posted a long while back Bern, about how you went to fund your pre paid card and the girl swiped it twice, in the amount of 500.00 or something like that, what about the poor girl or guy and store that had to eat that loss or did you pay it back to the store and say hey you all made a mistake, i just remember that post, dont know how to find it but isnt this kinda the shoe is on the other foot now?

I dont want to seem harsh but i do remember you bragging about how you got one over on them, did you make that mistake good and let them know about it ?..................laurie

laurie that same thing happened to me. the frist one would not go though so they swiped my card again and when i got home i saw that in fact both of them went though and when i went back to make it right caz i did,nt want anyone to get into trouble i was told no only one went though. i know these people real good so i know they would have told me the next time they saw me that i needed to make it right but they never said a word. and it happened more then once and each time i was told only one went though so when it did happen again i just let it go. so in my case it showed that only one went though and there was nothing i could do. they were not short on money so they did,nt get into trouble and if they would have taken the money that i tryed to give them it would have put them over and they would have gotten into trouble for overchargeing someone. so sometimes it does happen and theres nothing you can do about it.
 
Not that I deal with Netspend or know the first thing about it, but I agree with Kauphy and mistakes can happen on both sides. There has been a few times I would notice a duplicate charge on my bank account, I would call the bank about it and where the charge was made and they assured me the duplicate charge would drop off after pending and it always did.
 
hi bernynhel in one of ur post you said you did,nt need to show i.d in order to get a netspend card. here where i live they make you show i.d before you can get a netspend card. and belive me i know everyone at the check cashing place and i still had to show i.d they told me netspend will not give you one without i.d and in some cases you had to prove that you were a u.s cizien. i know when i frist got one that they did,nt do that but just the other day i got one again and they now do.

In Los Angeles they're supposed to ask for ID too. That's NetSpend's rule, but they don't. But some NetSpend cards were sold in grocery stores and drug stores. They were just mixed in with the phone cards and gift cards display.

You would just pick the packet with the card inside, and just pay for it and load the minimum at check out. Albertson's had em. They they stopped carrying them. But now I see Albertson's has the Only1 Visa and the Splash Visa. Both are reloadable, and no ID required and they're also issued by Meta Bank, same as NetSpend. I've only been asked for ID, one time and I was just loading my card but it was a check cashing place I had never been before, and I had NetSpend cards for several years in L.A. I could have had a card with Bozo the Clown embossed on it, I guess.

laurie that same thing happened to me. the frist one would not go though so they swiped my card again and when i got home i saw that in fact both of them went though and when i went back to make it right caz i did,nt want anyone to get into trouble i was told no only one went though. i know these people real good so i know they would have told me the next time they saw me that i needed to make it right but they never said a word. and it happened more then once and each time i was told only one went though so when it did happen again i just let it go. so in my case it showed that only one went though and there was nothing i could do. they were not short on money so they did,nt get into trouble and if they would have taken the money that i tryed to give them it would have put them over and they would have gotten into trouble for overchargeing someone. so sometimes it does happen and theres nothing you can do about it.

It wasn't the same thing, kauphy. They really did put an extra $500 on my card. How many times did you think they over-funded your card and you went back to make it good? lol
 
In Los Angeles they're supposed to ask for ID too. That's NetSpend's rule, but they don't. But some NetSpend cards were sold in grocery stores and drug stores. They were just mixed in with the phone cards and gift cards display.

You would just pick the packet with the card inside, and just pay for it and load the minimum at check out. Albertson's had em. They they stopped carrying them. But now I see Albertson's has the Only1 Visa and the Splash Visa. Both are reloadable, and no ID required and they're also issued by Meta Bank, same as NetSpend. I've only been asked for ID, one time and I was just loading my card but it was a check cashing place I had never been before, and I had NetSpend cards for several years in L.A. I could have had a card with Bozo the Clown embossed on it, I guess.



It wasn't the same thing, kauphy. They really did out an extra $500 on my card. How many times did you think they over= over-funded your card and you went back to make it good? lol

i,m bad sorrie. so what she did was put it on twice and only charge you once for it. it happened 3 times to me and i went back twice to make it right the 3rd time i did,nt caz i knew it would do no good. again sorrie.
 
Bern this is where I have to disagree with you. When I make a deposit to my card I look at the receipt before I leave the store. IMHO I would of went back and told that girl she gave me 500 too much. There is a saying that what goes around goes around. That girl could of gotten fired maybe could of had criminal charges brought against her. A lot of things could of transpired. I'm just saying though.

I have never looked at my receipt. Well, maybe a little peek, once. But not before leaving. And only if there was a problem later. I still don't check my receipt. Not in a grocery store, not at McDonald's, not at car wash (I just hand it over when dude holds up a towel). That's just me.

And you're absolutely right about what I should do if something like that happens again. And lauriejim is right. And everybody is right.
But why is everyone hijacking THIS thread to discuss it, alluvasudden? That was a year anna half ago! lol I'm just saying though. Everyone who agrees with lauriejim that I'm a dickhead should go start a "bernynhel's-a-dickhead-thread" cuz this here is BS! I'll come thank everyone who posts and I'll quote every post in total agreement. M-kay?
 
I have never looked at my receipt. Well, maybe a little peek, once. But not before leaving. And only if there was a problem later. I still don't check my receipt. Not in a grocery store, not at McDonald's, not at car wash (I just hand it over when dude holds up a towel). That's just me.

And you're absolutely right about what I should do if something like that happens again. And lauriejim is right. And everybody is right.
But why is everyone hijacking THIS thread to discuss it, alluvasudden? That was a year anna half ago! lol I'm just saying though. Everyone who agrees with lauriejim that I'm a dickhead should go start a "bernynhel's-a-dickhead-thread" cuz this here is BS! I'll come thank everyone who posts and I'll quote every post in total agreement. M-kay?


Good Lord Bern, your no PECKERHEAD, Im to much of a lady to say DICKHEAD:D, I just had to get that post off my chest, as i said this wasnt a damn Bernie to hell and back slam against you, im just a firm believer that if someone makes a mistake and you know it, make it right as Karma can be a BEOTCH sometimes;).................laurie
 
Good Lord Bern, your no PECKERHEAD, Im to much of a lady to say DICKHEAD:D, I just had to get that post off my chest, as i said this wasnt a damn Bernie to hell and back slam against you, im just a firm believer that if someone makes a mistake and you know it, make it right as Karma can be a BEOTCH sometimes;).................laurie

LOL I was being facetious. Kinda. We're cool! Besides, if you all got together and did start a "bernynhel's-a-dhead" thread, I said that I'd "come thank everyone who posts and I'll quote every post in total agreement." :thumbsup:
 
Resolved!!!

At 8:30 AM Barbara Core, the Director of NetSpend's Call Center Services, telephoned me via her direct line (withOUT a block on the caller ID) to inform me that:

a. She was very sorry for the inconvenience I was caused in this matter but wanted to thank me for pursuing it to the point of getting it escalated within NetSpend so that the matter came to her attention.

As a result, she is making several changes in NetSpend's policies including the criteria which NetSpend uses for requesting customers to obtain police reports.

Also, as a result of my having raised "certain red flags", NetSpend Security has escalated their investigation to include outside law enforcement agencies. I assured Ms Core that I would forward a police report copy once it is available to me.

b. The balance of the $185.45 fraudulently transferred from my account on 11/13 (less the $16 of the original amount stolen which had been returned via a reversal of the original Cardholder Transfer used for the theft) would be applied to either of the two, new NetSpend accounts I have since, opened (so I told her my preference and the money was credited.)

For CM Members who have NetSpend Accounts: There's a couple of names and titles of two higher ups at NetSpend within this thread should a problem you may have with some aspect of your NetSpend service not be resolved to your satisfaction.

To the CM Members who posted with empathy and support: Thanks! I hope this thread can be of some help.

To you "other" CM Members, whom I wont bother naming as to do so, I feel, at this point, would only bring me down to whatever level you must have been at to compel you to have made the kinds of posts you made: Thanks for nothing. And get some help.

Good luck!
 
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At 8:30 AM Barbara Core, the Director of NetSpend's Call Center Services, telephoned me via her direct line (withOUT a block on the caller ID) to inform me that:

a. She was very sorry for the inconvenience I was caused in this matter but wanted to thank me for pursuing it to the point of getting it escalated within NetSpend so that the matter came to her attention.

As a result, she is making several changes in NetSpend's policies including the criteria which NetSpend uses for requesting customers to obtain police reports.

Also, as a result of my having raised "certain red flags", NetSpend Security has escalated their investigation to include outside law enforcement agencies. I assured Ms Core that I would forward a police report copy once it is available to me.

b. The balance of the $185.45 fraudulently transferred from my account on 11/13 (less the $16 of the original amount stolen which had been returned via a reversal of the original Cardholder Transfer used for the theft) would be applied to either of the two, new NetSpend accounts I have since, opened (so I told her my preference and the money was credited.)

For CM Members who have NetSpend Accounts: There's a couple of names and titles of two higher ups at NetSpend within this thread should a problem you may have with some aspect of your NetSpend service not be resolved to your satisfaction.

To the CM Members who posted with empathy and support: Thanks! I hope this thread can be of some help.

To you "other" CM Members, whom I wont bother naming as to do so, I feel, at this point, would only bring me down to whatever level you must have been at to compel you to have made the kinds of posts you made: Thanks for nothing. And get some help.

Good luck!

Im glad you has this resolved Bern, now im off to get some HELP:D.............Laurie
 
Oh oh oh oh - make sure if you DO get a netspend - that you get a RELOADABLE one - and that you also see that it has INTER National bank on it.

OK?

This is semi important.

Again Netspend realizes quite clearly that we gamblers are primarily using it.

Meki is ABSOLUTELY correct! Meta bank ( sister bank to Inter National bank) will REJECT gaming transactions 100% of the time. Now Bern, the only reason why GM went through is that they do not process it as a gaming transaction. di
 

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