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- Jan 20, 2004
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We're starting to go around and around here so I'm going to make a few closing comments and then attend to other things:
@racefanrob, @gaydave:
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@racefanrob, @gaydave:
- will I specify exact Term clauses and how they were broken? Absolutely not. That would (a) damage the casino's security efforts, (b) violate the casino's trust in us, and (c) play directly into the fraudsters' hands as part of their "adapt and try again" process. I have no intention of aiding and abetting the bad guys. If you want further details about the Terms and violations talk to the casino.
. - is "go elsewhere" out of line? I think not. For racefan at least this thread has been one potshot at me and Casinomeister after another. Standard advice in a case where a member has nothing but complaints about the site and it's services is exactly what I gave: hit the road if you're only here to tell us how crummy we are.
. - you guys harped away that no Term(s) had been specified when in fact they had, repeatedly. Sorry if the "can't read" statement was a source of irritation but I reckon everyone will recover from their wounds in the fullness of time.
. - you guys seem to be under a number of misconceptions, not the least of which is that I somehow do the Pitch-A-Bitch stuff in isolation. I do not. Bryan is kept up to date with every move on every case. So when you're barking at me about a case, or complaining about "my" decision, you are addressing us both. FYI.
. - this "judge and jury" stuff keeps coming up and represents another fundamental misunderstanding about what we do here. Our purpose with the Pitch-A-Bitch process is to "assist a player when a casino's customer service fails". No more, no less. There is no judge nor jury because we are not a court. We try to help where such help is justified. In a case where there is sufficient and convincing evidence of player fraud we withdraw that offer to help, largely because we're being lied to. Don't like the free service we offer? Sorry to hear that but you know where the door is.
. - another misconception: I am accusing the player(s) of breaking the Term specified. Wrong. The casino named the Term being broken and shared the evidence with us. I only repeated the Term for clarification. In any case, as I've said before, given the situation and the evidence it's "game over" at that point. If the players want to pursue the case they're welcome to go back to their accuser, the casino. AFAIC we're satisfied and done.
. - misconception #4: the Pitch-A-Bitch is a "public court". First of all, we're not a court: re-read the bit about "judge and jury" stuff above. Secondly the Pitch-A-Bitch process is by nature and design a private and closed procedure. I see no compelling reason to change that now, certainly not to satisfy the complaints of one or two people who are obviously associated with fraudsters who have been banned from the site. Don't like this? Talk to Bryan, he owns Casinomeister and the Pitch-A-Bitch process: his word is the only one that really counts when it comes to Pitch-A-Bitch policy matters.
. - I never said "I have all the evidence". What I said was "we have seen sufficient and convincing evidence." You guys repeatedly twisting what I say because it gives you something to continue hollering about is a waste of my time.
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