help me with my math % please

pumacat

Dormant account
Joined
Sep 30, 2004
Location
Canada
Original Deposit $50

Total Spins = 145

Total spins that paid zero winnings = 98

47 spins did win something

29 of the 47 spins paid equal or less than original bet

18 spins remaining won a total of 36.89

18 spins costs a total of $9.00

Total won in 145 spins $27.98 ( $9.00 of which was bonus round )

Total bonus rounds for 145 spins = 1

What is the payout % ?
 

Nifty29

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Joined
Jun 20, 2001
Location
Turn right, then right. then right again
Original Deposit $50

Total Spins = 145

Total spins that paid zero winnings = 98

47 spins did win something

29 of the 47 spins paid equal or less than original bet

18 spins remaining won a total of 36.89

18 spins costs a total of $9.00

Total won in 145 spins $27.98 ( $9.00 of which was bonus round )



Total bonus rounds for 145 spins = 1

What is the payout % ?

Well I've always used:

(Amount won/Amount wagered)* 100 = RTP

I'm not a mathematician but it makes sense to me.

You said 18 spins cost you 9.00 so ill assume you were betting .50 per spin.

(36.89/72.50) * 100 = 50.8% RTP

Over 145 spins, anything is possible so it is definitely within expectation. Consider that just a single win of 75xbet would have brought your RTP over 100% and you will see the problem with calculating RTP on such tiny samples. Of course, I'm only working on an assumption with the amount wagered, but even 20% is very possible over 145 spins especially if it is a high variance slot and/or you play less than max lines.

Hope this helps (and is accurate :p )
 

pumacat

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Joined
Sep 30, 2004
Location
Canada
Thank you very much but I think that's where my issues is.

Of the 18 spins that remained, 2 of them were $3.00 bets which is were most of the winnings came from.

I would like to post screen shots if that is ok and maybe get some help with the math if anybody has the time. I could be way off. But I am curious before I continue to play at this particular casino.

Thanks

Chris

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Nifty29

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Joined
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Location
Turn right, then right. then right again
Your winnings in total were $48.60

Your amount wagered was $96.65

RTP is 50.2% over 145 spins.

Nothing untoward or unusual there.

You say most of the winnings came from your $3 bets, but you need to look at it in perspective. When you express the figures in terms of "x bet" it gives a more balanced view e.g your $10.60 win on MM was actually only 3.5xbet, so if this was immortal romance at .30 we would be talking about just over $1 which is nothing. The only reason you won more with MM is because the bets were higher.

Considering you're playing high variance slots with minuscule samples, there is absolutely nothing to suggest there is anything at all wrong with your results. Remember, a fairly small win of 15xbet on MM would have raised your RTP to around 100%, so that's why perspective is so important, and why raw data can be quite misleading.
 

Luckylizzy

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Orlando, Fl
All that extra information made me feel like I was taking one of those confusing math quizzes I used to get in school. :)

I was never very good at finding the relevant numbers when given so much data. Easiest way to find your RTP is simply amount won divided by amount wagered then move the decimal point over to the right twice.
 

pumacat

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Joined
Sep 30, 2004
Location
Canada
Hey I'll take your word for it. It just seemed very low amount of zeros for a session. The last session was even worse. I hope the funk slows down because I can not continue with odds like that. Thanks for the help though, much appreciated.
 
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