Help make this The ULTIMATE SLOT STRATEGY Thread

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I'm a poker player, because I know that I at least have some chance of putting the odds in my favor. (Actually having the mental discipline to execute that and make it happen is another story.) That being said, I have no problem playing the slots for fun here and there. Heck, I'll probably get lynched for saying it, but I like Slotland's games, as well as the Microgaming games. Thunderstruck is my favorite.

I think the first thing to do when planning a slots strategy is deciding what would make you happier. Do you want frequent small hits, or rarer winning combinations but the thrill of a big payout when you do hit? That should help you decide which slot game is more interesting for you. Personally, I like frequent small wins, and I don't have much interest in going for the big progressive jackpots.
 

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Well, it is nice to know everyone here is rich and gambles for the fun of it and not to make money but now for the real truth. I PLAY TO TRY TO MAKE MONEY NOT TO LOSE!! I have other ways of having fun :xxx
 

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I think the first thing to do when planning a slots strategy is deciding what would make you happier. Do you want frequent small hits, or rarer winning combinations but the thrill of a big payout when you do hit? That should help you decide which slot game is more interesting for you. Personally, I like frequent small wins, and I don't have much interest in going for the big progressive jackpots.


Nothing for the Tax man?? :D
 

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What on Earth???

Just to balance things up a bit, below is what happened to me in July when I tried to convert a $50 deposit + 100% bonus with $1500 WR into profit... :(

I my post above 'What on Earth' was my best slot, so naturally I went back to it again and again (5 separate sessions) without realising at the time just how totally diabolical it was. :eek:
If only I'd stuck to Lovely Laura... :oops:

If I had been sensible and limited my loss on this slot, I probably would have come out ahead.

Slot Strategy Tip No.1: NEVER assume that a slot that is hot one month will be similarly nice to you the next month. Limit your exposure! :rolleyes:
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funny

why0why said:
Well, the thread sure got plenty of play in 12 hours. It also turned into exactly what I didn't want it to. I stated clearly what I was looking for. I know it is gambling. I didn't come in here and say "dudez, give me da phat strat to make some lewt." My post was concise and I am surprised at all of the negativity. All of my correspondence with Simmo, KK and Spear has been nice and professional. Just because some of you have never won at slots doesn't mean it can't be done. Why don't you all ask Simmo if he has cashed out anything in the last month.

Playing with bonuses I have consistently made money over a fair number of spins. I didn't just play one weekend and say, I have the ultimate strategy. I had read KK say that he consistently came out ahead playing slots, so I wanted to see if there were others.
Where's the negativity? What do you want us to do, tell you fairy tales? I guess "negativity" = "facts you don't want to hear". The fact that people win sometimes is a result of variance, not strategy. If you want to understand more about slots or any gambling your best bet is to learn statistics and probability. I don't know why you ask for help, get it, and then call people negative when you don't like the answer.
The more this stuff goes on and on the more I get the disturbing feeling that the players' best interests aren't the focus here...
:eek:
 

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I should point out

If there are unfair slots, or slots that don't behave perfectly randomly, one could create a positive expectation situation by figuring out the patterns and playing accordingly. There may very well be many strategies for playing unfair or rigged slots, just not "real" slots. Any strategy that identifies and takes advantage on non-random behavior in a game will definately benefit the player. I have seen no such strategy posted here in my short time, however.
 

tim5ny

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Lisa10xx said:
I have other ways of having fun :xxx

Now that you 've gotten my attention with that statement.. please elaborate! You may add pics if you like also. We'll call them "Screenshots of Lisa having fun!"
 

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tim5ny said:
Now that you 've gotten my attention with that statement.. please elaborate! You may add pics if you like also. We'll call them "Screenshots of Lisa having fun!"
Yeah but please PM them between you two. For all we know, Lisa10xx is a 45 year old balding overweight guy.
 

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jamiester said:
Where's the negativity? What do you want us to do, tell you fairy tales? I guess "negativity" = "facts you don't want to hear". The fact that people win sometimes is a result of variance, not strategy. If you want to understand more about slots or any gambling your best bet is to learn statistics and probability. I don't know why you ask for help, get it, and then call people negative when you don't like the answer.
The more this stuff goes on and on the more I get the disturbing feeling that the players' best interests aren't the focus here...
:eek:
I think it's a great thread. Sure a number of players - mostly non-slot players - jumped in to berate the ability to gain some sort of slot strategy. (this is a topic that many have strong feelings about) This just goes to show that there are many types of players who have different goals/agendas/things that appeal to them.

The way this is voiced is the beauty of the online forum :D I didn't see it as being so negative - maybe a little hard ass sometimes - but that's par for the course when you have so many viewpoints.

There are a lot of different perspectives here that we can learn from. I play mainly for entertainment, not for profit. If I win, I'm happy - if I lose, I chalk it up as "oh well, that sucks." and hope the affiliate that I just dropped $200 into his account will by me a beer when I meet him :D

Other players play only bonuses, and will play only those games that there are certain strategies applicable to them. BJ for one. (I image these players get stressed out easily :D).

As for slots, the only strategy is how to manage your bank roll, and I hope that this was what I conveyed in my posting on how I approach the game. That's all you really can do because this is what you can control - nothing else. Nevertheless, there are many tips that one can apply as well:
Slot Strategy Tip No.1: NEVER assume that a slot that is hot one month will be similarly nice to you the next month. Limit your exposure!

jamiester said:
If there are unfair slots, or slots that don't behave perfectly randomly, one could create a positive expectation situation by figuring out the patterns and playing accordingly. There may very well be many strategies for playing unfair or rigged slots, just not "real" slots. Any strategy that identifies and takes advantage on non-random behavior in a game will definately benefit the player. I have seen no such strategy posted here in my short time, however.
Good point. The reason we don't see this often is that this is "cheating" software - and how often are cheating slots identified? Not often because mainly I assume that this would be hard to do.

There was an incident a few years back where a player identified a bug in Digital Diamond games that allowed him to consistantly win big wins when he would open up multiple browsers to play the game. They confiscated his winnings of about 8K and he tried to fight it - but their T&Cs state if there is a problem with the software - they aren't obligated to honor winnings.

The funny thing was is that he told his mother and a couple of friends to try this - they did, they won, and never were caught :D So he just left it at that.
 

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casinomeister said:
Yeah but please PM them between you two. For all we know, Lisa10xx is a 45 year old balding overweight guy.

:notworthy :lolup: :lolup: :lolup: :lolup: :notworthy
 

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casinomeister said:
Yeah but please PM them between you two. For all we know, Lisa10xx is a 45 year old balding overweight guy.

Footnote: KK - dont take that personally...i'm sure it was just an example :D ;)
 

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jamiester said:
Where's the negativity? What do you want us to do, tell you fairy tales? I guess "negativity" = "facts you don't want to hear". The fact that people win sometimes is a result of variance, not strategy. If you want to understand more about slots or any gambling your best bet is to learn statistics and probability. I don't know why you ask for help, get it, and then call people negative when you don't like the answer.
The more this stuff goes on and on the more I get the disturbing feeling that the players' best interests aren't the focus here...
:eek:

You plucked the words straight out of my mouth.

Microgaming slot threads on top of Microgaming slot threads...then we get a "slot strategy" thread from a brand new poster...he gets a packet of good feedback...and brand new poster takes a pop at it all - rather out of keeping with usual new poster attitude - calling it "negativity" (my oh my, have I head that word a few times here) because, rather than "strategies", he gets cold facts about the pointlessness of slot play, all in DIRECT response to his question!

Hmmm.
 

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casinomeister said:
As for slots, the only strategy is how to manage your bank roll, and I hope that this was what I conveyed in my posting on how I approach the game. That's all you really can do because this is what you can control - nothing else.

Correct. But bear in mind, how you "manage" your bankroll doesn't affect your results. That may seem an obvious thing to say, but many people believe it does. Many people believe that "stop-losses" and "quit-points" affect your expectation (the money-management BS we see rearing its pretty head on a regular basis), ie. these things can turn a loser into a winner.

The only way to use "bankroll control" is to limit your deposits to a certain amount over a given time frame. Then, you'll lose less. THAT is all you can control. Everything else is pissing in the wind.
 

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I haven't really seen much good info, and it has seemed pretty negative to me. I was interested in hearing from people that I know play slots and use a strategy. I think the only way to consistently make money is to use bonuses. I was interested in hearing other experiences. All I hear is you lose! What, maybe 3 people on four pages have posted anything pertaining to the question in my original post.

One of the reasons I started the thread is that many regulars had said small things about how they play in multiple threads(cashville thread, GG thread, etc.) I thought it would be nice to have the info in one place and have them expound on their thoughts.

Jam: As I said in the first post, I am aware of statistics and probability. I have taken it at the college level. I have also examined years worth of roullette data and written software to examine streak trends for colors and numbers. I find it to be an interesting topic and have spent many hours doing it.

My observations over the tens of thousands of spins is this: I am consistently making money, which I know I shouldn't be doing. It appears others are too. So, that leads me to believe that one can make money playing slots over the long run.

So does anyone else that actually plays slots, enjoys it and comes out ahead more often than not have anything to contribute?

I was interested in seeing bankroll info for someone like Spear. He pulls 250 coins on GG. I usually only use between 50-100 because it seems to go fast. So I was curious how long he would play at that level and what he would need to start.

Cheers...

Why0Why
 

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why0why said:
I haven't really seen much good info, and it has seemed pretty negative to me. I was interested in hearing from people that I know play slots and use a strategy.
I gave you good info.
 

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Yes you did. I said not much, not any :) I do actually find that strategy good. I rarely gamble my wins. I usually only do it if I'm pissed and have gotten like $10 off of a free spin feature, that's just not right!
 

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Personally I set cashout limits. Depends on how big my slots fund is. Usually I deposit $50 or $100 and cashout when anything over my initial deposit when I hit $75 on a $50 or $150 on a $100 deposit.

Think it i important to view any winnings as yours. This method does't deplete my slot fund so quickly.

You never know what is going to happen playing slots. Just before hitting the 5 Thors in Thunderstruck. I hit the free spin feature twice.

First was worst I had ever done on the free spins and second is about the same! Then little while later you hit the big one!
 

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casinomeister said:
Yeah but please PM them between you two. For all we know, Lisa10xx is a 45 year old balding overweight guy.

OMG, I know you just didn't go there! But since you did I would be happy to PROVE im not a 45 year old balding man. WOW! Thanks meister but im 100% 32 year old (not fat) female. ;)
 

tim5ny

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Lisa10xx said:
OMG, I know you just didn't go there! But since you did I would be happy to PROVE im not a 45 year old balding man. WOW! Thanks meister but im 100% 32 year old (not fat) female. ;)

Werd! :thumbsup:
 

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Lisa10xx said:
OMG, I know you just didn't go there! But since you did I would be happy to PROVE im not a 45 year old balding man. WOW! Thanks meister but im 100% 32 year old (not fat) female. ;)
OK - PROVE it! Photo's please! :D :p :D
 

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C'mon guys. Do ya'll live in caves? Just look out your window and maybe you'll spot a female. Or just do a google search on "female", I'm sure something'll come up.

Leave the lady alone and don't derail the thread.
 

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