Help make this The ULTIMATE SLOT STRATEGY Thread

Damn, there was me hoping for a knicker shot or two, or at the very least some fishnets.

My hopes shattered.
 
casinomeister said:
C'mon guys. Do ya'll live in caves? Just look out your window and maybe you'll spot a female. Or just do a google search on "female", I'm sure something'll come up.

Leave the lady alone and don't derail the thread.
What was the thread about again? :D
 
whyOwhy

caruso said...

There are no strategies to win with slots. If anyone tells you otherwise, they are foolish or malicious. There are no "trends" to take advantage of, there are no "money management" schemes that will turn a loser into a winner and the only difference your starting bankroll makes is your longevity at the machine.

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Very apt post...

I gamble for entertainment...but winning has NEVER hurt my feelings...lol.

I think the key to having a chance to win is putting oneself in a position to win...thru good money management and intellegent play.

Money management??? Bet big while winning...bet small while losing.

Oh, a lot of people could give you a sure fire betting sequence that has worked short term for them...but if I thought I had one...I wouldn't post it, because I would not want to be responsible when it did not work for you.

I like the Meister's system of moving from game to game...from VP to ThunderdUck and back...I do that myself.

As for sitting down with 1000's and "attacking" a slot (progressive or not)...I think that is foolhardy...I don't care whut the jackpot is up to.

whyOwhy betting 5% of his funds and MOVING after 5 unsuccessful is as sound a plan as I've heard...gives you plenty of chances to hit and you don't spend all your money in one place.

So, I guess my ultimate stategy is...gamble what you can afford...realize you're probably going to lose...move from game to game...and most of all...have a good time.

the dUck
 
Make $500 in 2 days!

How to make (nearly) $500 in 2 days!

After my earlier disaster (post dated Aug-2nd), I decided to have another go.
I was playing with a bonus, and so risked higher than my normal minimum stakes, while still being careful.
I only played 1 session on each slot, except Tomb Raider & What on Earth (2 each).
Once I had a decent win, I played up to 25 more spins only, then stopped if nothing hit.

I'm not claiming any great strategy - I was just very bloody lucky! :D

What on Earth is going on (2)? I was murdered by this last month so I decided to go for revenge in a big way by risking up to $50 on it. I wanted to get at least 100 spins, and knowing that you get loads of small wins and that I'd likely get 75%+ return, I jumped in @ $1.80 per spin (HUGE by my normal standards! :eek: ). (Maths: 100 x $1.80 = $180. 75% return = lose $45)
The first feature was a crap x3 minimum for a $12.80 payout, but the next one was with 4 red rockets @ x40 for $117! The next feature paid $35, then I had x40 again (this time with only 3 rockets) for $78!
I was almost annoyed when I did my 2nd session, cos I only did 4c per line - but hit the max feature x200! Still nice to get $73.48 for a 36c bet! :cool:

As you can see, because I was winning I was STILL tempted to play on the crap slots, just to make sure... :rolleyes:
(Not surprising that the crap ones show the biggest losses).

So here we are:-

Slot Strategy Tip No.1a: NEVER assume that a good slot that is crap one month will be similarly crap the next month! :rolleyes: (Still limit your exposure though)

Slot Strategy Tip No.2: Don't push your luck too much. Once you've hit big - move on ASAP.

Slot Strategy Tip No.3: Don't be tempted by the crap crap slots, unless you are 100% prepared to lose your money for the sake of some light entertainment.

Slot Strategy Tip No.4: Be bloody lucky! :D
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Slot Strategy Tip No.2: Don't push your luck too much. Once you've hit big - move on ASAP.

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I very much agree with this strategy...

Now, before all you RNG purists have a posting frenzy...I understand that what has happened will have nothing to do with what will happen...

I think it is important to MOVE...to have game closure...like cashing in at a landbased.

These feature slots are addictive because they are FUN...moving from game to game supplies a beginning and an end...without actually quitting.

This certainly does not guarantee a winning session/s...but I absolutely hate putting winnings back into the same game.

the dUck
 
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KasinoKing said:
How to make (nearly) $500 in 2 days!
Good Job KK

What on Earth is going on (2)?

Where the h** is my money is more like it.....WOE has been sooo cold for me :lolup:

KasinoKing said:
As you can see, because I was winning I was STILL tempted to play on the crap slots, just to make sure... :rolleyes:
(Not surprising that the crap ones show the biggest losses).

So here we are:-

Slot Strategy Tip No.1a: NEVER assume that a good slot that is crap one month will be similarly crap the next month! :rolleyes: (Still limit your exposure though)

Slot Strategy Tip No.2: Don't push your luck too much. Once you've hit big - move on ASAP.

Slot Strategy Tip No.3: Don't be tempted by the crap crap slots, unless you are 100% prepared to lose your money for the sake of some light entertainment.

Slot Strategy Tip No.4: Be bloody lucky! :D
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Thought I would finally throw my 2cents worth in here. Sorry you got slammed with negatives why0why. But some of us enjoy the slots...and we are low rollers, I agree with KK's strategies, I just didn't know he kept a spreadsheet on all his spins and wins (that would be too much like work :notworthy ) ...wow.

I won't claim to be a slots expert....just like playing them, and have won more money on them than Holdem, or Video poker (btw...they classify VP as a slot only difference is you hold cards, then again..some slots you can hold too) I am with KK on the holdem, I can sometimes get "lucky" and get a few good hands...but now I stick to the freerolls.

I love the slots, I do see some streaky trends...like it seems the slots are looser when new games come out. To see this trend take a look at winners screen shots.... We have seen lately that even the old ones have streaks, Ladies night will hit big for me one week...and crap on me the next.

My Favs are the free spins, I usually dep about 50 bucks a shot..so I try them first to build up my bankroll to play the higher ones like Wowpot, wheel of wealth, and lotsaloot. (you can tell I like microgaming best..lol )

I have seen that changing up your bet can make a machine hit different, for example: I start one of the freespin slots...at 1 cent /4 coins = 36Cents.
if it doesn't hit for me, i move up the bet, to 1cent/5 coins=45 cents.
still doesn't hit....move to 2 cents 2 coins =36 cents. If I still don't get hits I move to another machine.
Another thing I do is, once I have hit the bonus feature (freespins..or whatever) I then move up the bet, either by 1 coin or change the coin amount, I find that if I stay at the same amount, the machine sometimes dies.
But changing it up, i have hit FS (freespins) again..move it up...FS again...till it goes cold..and leave it.
Other times...you can't get them to hit on anything but that bet amount (unfortunatly..that is sometimes 18 cents...lol )

I know I will probably get blasted.....but...who cares, and here's my disclaimer....This is all MHO, KK has the stats...I won't claim to have any.
The best strategy is to limit what you spend...and cash out when you make money...that is the problem I have :) , I enjoy playing too much.

There is nothing wrong with having a pastime that could make you money..... Better than going to bar and blowing $50.00 on drinking...lol (no offense Meister..I know you love your beer) :)
 
gaputernut said:
Sorry you got slammed with negatives why0why.
Jeeeeeeeeeeeezuz, you people take the biscuit.

The poster requested feedback on how to make money from slots. A bunch of smart posters gave him a load of good, relevant advice - and the slot-junkies call "negativity".

It's not "negative" that slots cannot be beaten - it's fact. It may not be an agreeable fact, you may not like the fact, the fact may sit sadly on your shoulders, but it remains FACT.

Read the above sentence over and over until it penetrates.
 
ok ok ok ok

caruso said:
Jeeeeeeeeeeeezuz, you people take the biscuit.

The poster requested feedback on how to make money from slots. A bunch of smart posters gave him a load of good, relevant advice - and the slot-junkies call "negativity".

It's not "negative" that slots cannot be beaten - it's fact. It may not be an agreeable fact, you may not like the fact, the fact may sit sadly on your shoulders, but it remains FACT.

Read the above sentence over and over until it penetrates.

We get your point...but that is not what the org. question was.....
Are you going to nail everyone's post in this tread??? or can we just get to the org. questions???
 
gaputernut said:
...There is nothing wrong with having a pastime that could make you money..... Better than going to bar and blowing $50.00 on drinking...lol (no offense Meister..I know you love your beer) :)
Yeah but, I rarely get wasted. In fact, I've been wasted probably only three times in the last year - one was at my birthday party, thanks to Peralis and a bottle of Tequilla. The other two times - I can't remember when they happened, but I think Spear, greedy girl, or Jetset might have been there.

I live in Germany, so $50 would go a long way. In fact that's about 4 months worth of beer for me :D

caruso said:
Read the above sentence over and over until it penetrates.
I feel penetrated :D
 
ROFLMAO

casinomeister said:
Yeah but, I rarely get wasted. In fact, I've been wasted probably only three times in the last year - one was at my birthday party, thanks to Peralis and a bottle of Tequilla. The other two times - I can't remember when they happened, but I think Spear, greedy girl, or Jetset might have been there.

I live in Germany, so $50 would go a long way. In fact that's about 4 months worth of beer for me :D


I feel penetrated :D
I least you felt it :)

I never said you got wasted....just saying I know you like your beer..and that is a good price for beer...should send my hubby there :)
But at a bar here....2.50$ to 3.00 min. a beer....unless it's happy hour or something...
My favorite is tequilla.....love it!!
 
blasting away...

gaputernut said:
The best strategy is to limit what you spend...and cash out when you make money...that is the problem I have :) , I enjoy playing too much.

That is the one sentence of your whole post that has any accuracy. The above 3 paragraphs are probably just speculative nonsense.

I second Caruso. I can understand affiliates wanting to perpetuate myths about slots but it even seems that the players themselves want to remain ignorant of the facts. As if somehow understanding how slots really work will take the fun out of them :what:

And for the record, I AM a slots player. You don't have to trick yourself into believing you can beat them to enjoy them. In fact much of the pleasure comes from beating longer odds, when you do.
 
jamiester said:
I second Caruso. I can understand affiliates wanting to perpetuate myths about slots but it even seems that the players themselves want to remain ignorant of the facts. As if somehow understanding how slots really work will take the fun out of them :what:
I don't see affiliates perpetuating myths about slots - when did this happen? Some may push the games because they enjoy them, but I don't see where affiliates are coming up with some BS to entice players to "c'mon down! Play to win!"
 
caruso said:
Jeeeeeeeeeeeezuz, you people take the biscuit.

The poster requested feedback on how to make money from slots. A bunch of smart posters gave him a load of good, relevant advice - and the slot-junkies call "negativity".

It's not "negative" that slots cannot be beaten - it's fact. It may not be an agreeable fact, you may not like the fact, the fact may sit sadly on your shoulders, but it remains FACT.

Read the above sentence over and over until it penetrates.
Caruso mate, I think you need some time off!

I deeply respect your vast experience and knowledge on online gaming, but to keep jumping into threads and saying it is impossible to win from gambling and we are all wasting our time & money is frankly getting a bit boring. :(

We are not children. We know the odds are against us, as they are with all forms of gambling. I believe that's what the word gambling means - taking a risk. However, I also believe there are quite a few 'professional' gamblers in this world who make their entire living just from taking risks. Are you going to tell them to stop too?

So please, give yourself a break from reading these threads & winding yourself up - maybe try some different sites, like trainspottersRus or something.... :D
 
KasinoKing said:
However, I also believe there are quite a few 'professional' gamblers in this world who make their entire living just from taking risks. Are you going to tell them to stop too?
Professional gamblers make a living by making gambles with positive expectation. The only way to get positive expectation by playing a fair slot machine (fair in the sense that spins are uncorrelated) is to either play with a bonus, or play a progressive machine where the jackpot is high enough for the machine to have positive expectation.
 
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raol said:
Professional gamblers make a living by making gambles with positive expectation. The only way to get positive expectation by playing a fair slot machine (fair in the sense that spins are uncorrelated) is to either play with a bonus, or play a progressive machine where the jackpot is high enough for the machine to have positive expectation.
PLEASE stop taking this thread so seriously!
I'm not saying that myself or anyone else can regularly profit from slots. I am saying they are great fun and can give you the occasional big hit which is really exciting!
(Much better than grinding your way through 100's of hands of blackjack!)
However I do believe there are strategies which will help you minimise your loss. (But you don't have to believe me ;) )

Play with a bonus...? Now there's a thought! :D
 
KasinoKing said:
PLEASE stop taking this thread so seriously!
I'm not saying that myself or anyone else can regularly profit from slots. I am saying they are great fun and can give you the occasional big hit which is really exciting!
(Much better than grinding your way through 100's of hands of blackjack!)
However I do believe there are strategies which will help you minimise your loss. (But you don't have to believe me ;) )

Play with a bonus...? Now there's a thought! :D
Did you not read the original post?

"I do enjoy the slots, but I am mainly playing for income."

"What I wanted to do is make a comprehensive strategy thread. I thought the regulars could post their winning strategies."

He is clearly asking for strategies that yields positive expectation.

Feel free to start your own thread about how to get maximum enjoyment from slots.
 
casinomeister said:
I don't see affiliates perpetuating myths about slots - when did this happen?
There's more than one way to skin a cat, Bryan. One might conclude that posting threads about individual slot games on probably the highest traffic casino board on the net, then flooding them with screenshots of multi-thousand dollar hits, is "perpetuating the myth", on the basis that the design may be to delude and encourage players into feeding the machines. Let's face it, this is the meat & drink of casino advertising, so it'd hardly be new.

I'm not saying that IS the case - but it well might be. It would be idiotic and gullible to not at least entertain the possibility, and take it on good faith that all these threads, full of post after post after post from primarily webmasters, represent purely the "joy" of winning and not a desire to perpetuate the myth. Because one way or another, the myth is being well and truly perpetuated, lol.

You would be right to call this cynical / paranoid. I would call it both, but also realistic. It doesn't take much to join the dots (though again, I acknowledge the possibility that they can be joined incorrectly and lead to the wrong picture).
 
caruso said:
There's more than one way to skin a cat, Bryan. One might conclude that posting threads about individual slot games on probably the highest traffic casino board on the net, then flooding them with screenshots of multi-thousand dollar hits, is "perpetuating the myth", on the basis that the design may be to delude and encourage players into feeding the machines. Let's face it, this is the meat & drink of casino advertising, so it'd hardly be new.
Let's not forget that it's not all webmasters posting these screenshots, and that webmasters feed these casinos $$ as much as the players do. Well, most of the time I guess.

caruso said:
I'm not saying that IS the case - but it well might be. It would be idiotic and gullible to not at least entertain the possibility....
Good point.

caruso said:
You would be right to call this cynical / paranoid.
Yeah but, paranoia will destroy ya :D

caruso said:
I would call it both, but also realistic. It doesn't take much to join the dots (though again, I acknowledge the possibility that they can be joined incorrectly and lead to the wrong picture).
I think you're looking at too many dots. Don't forget about the "Screenshots that suck" thread.
 
A hypothetical...

Hi Caruso...

Let's make believe I am a JoB Video Poker player...

I deposit $50 every Friday at my fav MG casino...when the $50 is gone...I wait the next Friday...

Well three months go by...I'm down $600...second hand I hit a $1.25 ROYAL for $1000...instant $400 profit!!!

I decide to invest $20 in each of ten progressive slots...or $200...

Fifth spin on $3 CashSplash I win the $45,000 jackpot...

I cash with no problems...

Being that I am very anal about my system...I go back to my $50/week play and wait on the next JoB royal...(I've got 900 weeks to hit it=17yrs and change)

Would you call me a winning slot player???

the dUck
 
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jamiester said:
That is the one sentence of your whole post that has any accuracy. The above 3 paragraphs are probably just speculative nonsense.

I second Caruso. I can understand affiliates wanting to perpetuate myths about slots but it even seems that the players themselves want to remain ignorant of the facts. As if somehow understanding how slots really work will take the fun out of them :what:

And for the record, I AM a slots player. You don't have to trick yourself into believing you can beat them to enjoy them. In fact much of the pleasure comes from beating longer odds, when you do.

No...we don't remain ignorant...and yes...if you read all of it..i said that it's just what i think....

Why oh why can't this just be a fun discussion about slots????????
I give up!!!
 
ha, it worked!!!

casinomeister said:
I don't see affiliates perpetuating myths about slots - when did this happen? Some may push the games because they enjoy them, but I don't see where affiliates are coming up with some BS to entice players to "c'mon down! Play to win!"

I knew someone would bite...(and I haven't even read the posts below yet!!!) I didn't say that any affiliate did anything of the sort. I only said I could understand them wanting to... I could understand an affiliates motivation to obscure the true nature of slots, if that were to happen, but what I can't understand is the players keeping themselves in the dark...

But to be perfectly honest, I did want to suggest it without actually saying it. :eek:
 
Why did this thread stop?

Sorry, I JUST edited this posting.

I confused this thread with KasinoKing's thread of "What MG slot's hot - what's not?".

Move along...
 
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