Hello.

[Gamblingwages]

Hello to everyone here at casinomeister.com!
My name is Robert Green, Im the affiliate manager for gamblingwages.com.
I do understand that there may have been some problems in the past with some of the casino brands we promote with-in gamblingwages.
Im here to help with all or any problems that may pop up with players our affiliates have sent to any of the brands we promote, or of anyone has a question about our brands.
I can only address future problems and I cannot promise I can solve them all, but will try to do my best.

I look forward to helping and being a part of casinomeister.com.

Thanks,

 

[LaurieJim]

My Mama always said it wasnt nice to be rude so hello robert and welcome to the forum, now my Daddy on the other hand always said call a spade a spade and go right for the juggler...........having said that....... Do you plan on posting any threads about Virtual and how they have changed, if so, you wont find to many here that will listen or praise you, unless they are newbies and thats the main ones that need protecting from that group of rogues..............welcome again Robert...........laurie

 

[Gamblingwages]

My Mama always said it wasnt nice to be rude so hello robert and welcome to the forum, now my Daddy on the other hand always said call a spade a spade and go right for the juggler...........having said that....... Do you plan on posting any threads about Virtual and how they have changed, if so, you wont find to many here that will listen or praise you, unless they are newbies and thats the main ones that need protecting from that group of rogues..............welcome again Robert...........laurie

LOL laurie.
No laurie I'm not here to try and preach how we have turned over a new leaf.
I'm here in case any problems come up, I can try to jump on them ASAP!

Thanks, for listening to Mama!

 

[Pinababy69]

Well, I was found under a cabbage leaf and don't know who my mama and papa are....so I'm lost Laurie. I have no idea how to socially interact with some people. Hmmmm....gonna have to have a good think on this one.

As long you don't try to force feed me any bullshit about how great Virtual is, and how they've changed Robert....then I will try and behave myself.

 

[wickedmsmary]

Hi Robert,

gamblingwages.com has Virtual Casino ?

I through Virtual is with Refer Casino - Affiliate Network. Maybe I'm wrong.

 

[Gamblingwages]

Hi Robert,

gamblingwages.com has Virtual Casino ?

I through Virtual is with Refer Casino - Affiliate Network. Maybe I'm wrong.

No we do not have the Virtual Casino.
you can visit us to see the brands we promote.

thanks,

 

[Pinababy69]

Hi Robert,

gamblingwages.com has Virtual Casino ?

I through Virtual is with Refer Casino - Affiliate Network. Maybe I'm wrong.

Mary, I was referring to Virtual in the collective...not just Virtual Casino, but the whole group. Doesn't matter whether it's Gamblingwages or a different affy program, they're still all Virtual Group Casinos. Sorry for the confusion on where I was coming from.

 

[BingoT]

Hi Robert,
Welcome to CM's forum.
I hope to see many things fixed.
I hope you can help this player out Krafty36
I sent you a PM on it.
Thank You
B-T
And please take a look at that Players complaint

 

[jas2587]

No we do not have the Virtual Casino.
you can visit us to see the brands we promote.

thanks,

Hiya
maybe you can do us all a favor an list the casino's that you promote
you have what 4 5 links under your name alot of clicking
why dont you just list the casino's


Cindy

 

[Pinababy69]

Gambling Wages casinos are Cool Cat, Club Player, Cirrus and Palace of Fat Chance...oops, sorry....Palace of Chance. Did I miss any?

 

[jas2587]

Gambling Wages casinos are Cool Cat, Club Player, Cirrus and Palace of Fat Chance...oops, sorry....Palace of Chance. Did I miss any?

Thank ya Kindly I tooo shall pass right on by

Cindy

 

[Gamblingwages]

Hi Robert,
Welcome to CM's forum.
I hope to see many things fixed.
I hope you can help this player out Krafty36
I sent you a PM on it.
Thank You
B-T
And please take a look at that Players complaint

I will get back to you tomorrow on this.

thanks,

 

[Gamblingwages]

Thank ya Kindly I tooo shall pass right on by

Cindy

Have you every played at one of our casinos?

 

[kmay87]

No offence to yourself, but I hope that noone is swayed into playing at any of the casinos in the Virtual Group just because you are on board. As far as I'm concerned, until clear evidence is shown that these casinos have completely changed, everyone should still keep away.

 

[Gamblingwages]

No offence to yourself, but I hope that noone is swayed into playing at any of the casinos in the Virtual Group just because you are on board. As far as I'm concerned, until clear evidence is shown that these casinos have completely changed, everyone should still keep away.

I agree 100%.

Thanks,

 

[Pinababy69]

No offence to yourself, but I hope that noone is swayed into playing at any of the casinos in the Virtual Group just because you are on board. As far as I'm concerned, until clear evidence is shown that these casinos have completely changed, everyone should still keep away.

Kmay, this is EXACTLY what I am also worried about. Sorry Robert, but people need to avoid the Virtual casinos like the plague.

 

[vinylweatherman]

What's in a name?

Virtual casinos in all but name.

You forgot Wild Vegas

These are a subset of the rogue collective known as Virtual casinos.

Unfortunately, we have heard this before, although then it WAS in the "turned over a new leaf" phraseology. Simply splitting a large group of rogue casinos in half, and giving one half to affy program A, and the other to program B, does not suddenly make one half reputable.

There are unlikely to be any existing Casinomeister members likely to open an account at any of these, and problems, if they occur, will come from players who played, felt they got a shafting, and then found Casinomeister.

In time, you should have a very busy mailbox

Who is responsible for paying players still owed money? Has ownership itself changed, or is this merely a split in affiliate programs being tasked with promoting the brands formerly known as Virtual casinos.?

Will the spam stop?

 

[Gamblingwages]

Virtual casinos in all but name.

You forgot Wild Vegas

These are a subset of the rogue collective known as Virtual casinos.

Unfortunately, we have heard this before, although then it WAS in the "turned over a new leaf" phraseology. Simply splitting a large group of rogue casinos in half, and giving one half to affy program A, and the other to program B, does not suddenly make one half reputable.

There are unlikely to be any existing Casinomeister members likely to open an account at any of these, and problems, if they occur, will come from players who played, felt they got a shafting, and then found Casinomeister.

In time, you should have a very busy mailbox

Who is responsible for paying players still owed money? Has ownership itself changed, or is this merely a split in affiliate programs being tasked with promoting the brands formerly known as Virtual casinos.?

Will the spam stop?

Please, once again I'm here to help with any future problems that may or may not occur with any players from our affiliates.

Thanks,

 

[suzecat]

Please, once again I'm here to help with any future problems that may or may not occur with any players from our affiliates.

Thanks,

Hiya Robert .............. do you anticipate any payout problems which would require your participation (after all the new leaves have been turned)? Do you know if players with payment issues will be able to use the PAB service that CM provides?

 

[jas2587]

Have you every played at one of our casinos?

Since Pinababy was so Lind to name that casino er casino's yes I have played at them an s that they are no longer even installed on my pc

Cindy

 

[CasinoMac]

Hello to everyone here at casinomeister.com!
My name is Robert Green, Im the affiliate manager for gamblingwages.com.
I do understand that there may have been some problems in the past with some of the casino brands we promote with-in gamblingwages.
Im here to help with all or any problems that may pop up with players our affiliates have sent to any of the brands we promote, or of anyone has a question about our brands.
I can only address future problems and I cannot promise I can solve them all, but will try to do my best.

I look forward to helping and being a part of casinomeister.com.

Thanks,

I am glad we have you here at casino meister

Enjoy your stay sir

 

[Gamblingwages]

Thanks for the welcome.

May the gambling God's bless you forever!

 

[jod5413]

How in the Hell did I miss this thread?????? WTF! This is a joke, right? No one in their right mind would actually play at these casinos, would they?!?!?

 

[mrracetrack]

Robert...

I would hope you will show a bit more respect for this forum and it's members than you did for the last one that offered you the opportunity to open a line of communication between both affiliates and players...

The forum I'm referring to would be GIA...

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

That would be the forum where you and your partner in crime Steve Ariel rudely posted that you would no longer "participate" because "GIA was too small for you to bother with... and you wanted a bigger audience... like on the CAP board"...

The administrators of that forum went out of their way to welcome you & Steve... and provide a casual venue for you to respond to questions that were of concern to both affiliates and players.

Not surprisingly... you both "permanently disappeared" when you were asked to discuss specific issues... and the last response from "Gambling Wages" was the disrespectful comment about wasting your time at the GIA forum... since it was not "big enough" for you...

The reality was... you and Steve didn't like the "heat" that was being brought by the questions that were being asked of you... and you both decided to "get out of the kitchen"...

I hope you both have learned some proper manners since then... and show a bit more respect to the Casinomeister forum and it's members.

 

[CasinoMac]

Welcome sir!

 

[Gamblingwages]

Robert...

I would hope you will show a bit more respect for this forum and it's members than you did for the last one that offered you the opportunity to open a line of communication between both affiliates and players...

The forum I'm referring to would be GIA...

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

That would be the forum where you and your partner in crime Steve Ariel rudely posted that you would no longer "participate" because "GIA was too small for you to bother with... and you wanted a bigger audience... like on the CAP board"...

The administrators of that forum went out of their way to welcome you & Steve... and provide a casual venue for you to respond to questions that were of concern to both affiliates and players.

Not surprisingly... you both "permanently disappeared" when you were asked to discuss specific issues... and the last response from "Gambling Wages" was the disrespectful comment about wasting your time at the GIA forum... since it was not "big enough" for you...

The reality was... you and Steve didn't like the "heat" that was being brought by the questions that were being asked of you... and you both decided to "get out of the kitchen"...

I hope you both have learned some proper manners since then... and show a bit more respect to the Casinomeister forum and it's members.

I don't recall ever making those comments. But once again, I'm here to help on issues that come up in the future.

Thanks,

 

[GamTrak]

I don't recall ever making those comments. But once again, I'm here to help on issues that come up in the future.

Thanks,

Hello Robert,

I wanted to confirm that what racetrack stated is TRUE. I witnessed the 'performance' that day as well as posted my feelings about it.

I'm surprised that you claim to not remember that. When I started reading this thread I felt that you may be in for a very hard time, but after reading your last reply, I'd like to suggest that you not try to BS us because it's not going to go very well for you or your brands.

Have a nice day and I hope that I can expect payment for April soon.

 

[bb28]

Ahhh never mind, I removed my snarky comment, it was pointless to ask why someone would promote them, the answer is obvious. $$$$, that is if they can get paid.

 

[Gamblingwages]

Hello Robert,

I wanted to confirm that what racetrack stated is TRUE. I witnessed the 'performance' that day as well as posted my feelings about it.

I'm surprised that you claim to not remember that. When I started reading this thread I felt that you may be in for a very hard time, but after reading your last reply, I'd like to suggest that you not try to BS us because it's not going to go very well for you or your brands.

Have a nice day and I hope that I can expect payment for April soon.

I'm sorry if it seems we came off that way.

Thanks,

 

[RobWin]

I'm sorry if it seems we came off that way.

Thanks,

Robert, whatever became of the issues that you and J. Todd were working on as far as getting past winners paid their money? I have not read anywhere that you were able to bring closure to that issue??

 

[BingoT]

Hey Robert I just hope we can have closure to that issue from that other place.
I don't like going around in circles and I for one hate circle jerks.
I do have to say thank you for the reply and least that's a start.
I guess we will see the out come.
Thanks
B-T

 

[Gamblingwages]

Robert, whatever became of the issues that you and J. Todd were working on as far as getting past winners paid their money? I have not read anywhere that you were able to bring closure to that issue??

Did you hear they were not paid?
I believe all issues were closed.

thanks,

 

[GamTrak]

I'm sorry if it seems we came off that way.

Thanks,

Not a problem, I just had to give my view of what happened.

Personally, I feel that the player is responsible for knowing T&C's of the sites where they spend thier money as the casino and affiliates are. As an igaming affiliate since 2001 I've never had a legitimate claim against your brands so I'm all for seeing that you guys do what you can to repair the damage of the past because players do continue to deposit and play each month.

I've taken a lot of flack for promoting your brands, but I don't waste time worrying about such things as long as my players don't have a problem with your brands and I get paid on time, then I don't have a problem with you.

 

[The Dude]

Did you hear they were not paid?
I believe all issues were closed.

thanks,

Don't get me started on this one. You have a player at Coolcat/Prism/Cirrus casino that has been getting dicked around for years. You know who I'm talking about.

You owe him around $1.5 million - give or take a few hundred thou.

How about taking care of this one and get him paid in a timely manner.

@gamtrak - are you smoking whacky weed? I would have never admitted to promoting this rogue outfit.

 

[RobWin]

Did you hear they were not paid?
I believe all issues were closed.

thanks,

oops, bout missed that.. If you really want me to, I can dig up several threads and posts on here as well as over at the APCW Forum where there have been numerous statements made to the fact that they were not paid and settled out properly on the very ones that J.Todd was trying to give you guys the benefit of doubt on, but to tell you the truth, I'm sure you are already familiar and well aware of those that I speak of.

 

[bb28]

Not a problem, I just had to give my view of what happened.

Personally, I feel that the player is responsible for knowing T&C's of the sites where they spend thier money as the casino and affiliates are. As an igaming affiliate since 2001 I've never had a legitimate claim against your brands so I'm all for seeing that you guys do what you can to repair the damage of the past because players do continue to deposit and play each month.

I've taken a lot of flack for promoting your brands, but I don't waste time worrying about such things as long as my players don't have a problem with your brands and I get paid on time, then I don't have a problem with you.

Well I'm going to be snarky after all.
As CM pointed out, does it not bother you that there have been plenty of others who didn't get paid? Maybe they weren't your players but how can you be sure about that? For instance I know back when I was a newbie and didn't know better and I signed up with these places I didn't have a clue what an affiliate was, much less would I have any idea that I could have contacted them if I had an issue, so it's not much of a stretch to say that some of your players probably are just as clueless as I was. So can you say with 100% certainty that "your" players don't have issues? Again.......even if they don't, doesn't it bother you that this group has ripped off so many people and I'd go on to say that there are probably just as many that have been ripped off that no one has ever heard a peep from because they just gave up because they thought they had no recourse and really they don't, when it's all said and done.

 

[Gamblingwages]

Don't get me started on this one. You have a player at Coolcat/Prism/Cirrus casino that has been getting dicked around for years. You know who I'm talking about.

You owe him around $1.5 million - give or take a few hundred thou.

How about taking care of this one and get him paid in a timely manner.

@gamtrak - are you smoking whacky weed? I would have never admitted to promoting this rogue outfit.

Hello Mr. Meister,
We would like to invite you to visit our offices here in Costa Rica.
When may we send you the ticket.
Also as I have said before, I'm here for present issues if any should arise.

Thanks,

 

[swampwitch]

We would like to invite you to visit our offices here in Costa Rica.
When may we send you the ticket.

And what praytell would that accomplish? Hmmm...a few nice dinners, some free chips, a whirlwind tour of the offices, and some shiny albeit empty promises...And I'm sure the next 'Meister video will have Bryan singing your praises and promising all debts paid and free trips for the disenfranchised.

Not.

Seriously Robert...you guys need some new schtick.

 

[silcnlayc]

Also as I have said before, I'm here for present issues if any should arise.

I guess the key word here is present...

.

 

[bb28]

Hello Mr. Meister,
We would like to invite you to visit our offices here in Costa Rica.
When may we send you the ticket.
Also as I have said before, I'm here for present issues if any should arise.

Thanks,

Talk about classy.......NOT.

Geez you've apparently not spent much time around here have you?

 

[Gamblingwages]

And what praytell would that accomplish? Hmmm...a few nice dinners, some free chips, a whirlwind tour of the offices, and some shiny albeit empty promises...And I'm sure the next 'Meister video will have Bryan singing your praises and promising all debts paid and free trips for the disenfranchised.

Not.

Seriously Robert...you guys need some new schtick.

We are not looking to wine and dine anyone. Also I don't expect him to come back and sing songs of love for our casinos. We would just like to him to see our operation from the inside, nothing more.

Thanks,

 

[GamTrak]

Don't get me started on this one. You have a player at Coolcat/Prism/Cirrus casino that has been getting dicked around for years. You know who I'm talking about.

You owe him around $1.5 million - give or take a few hundred thou.

How about taking care of this one and get him paid in a timely manner.

@gamtrak - are you smoking whacky weed? I would have never admitted to promoting this rogue outfit.

Nope not today Bryan.

I was just stating the facts. I have players that deposit and play and have never had a complaint. I'm not here to be the watchdog. That's you job.

 

[jod5413]

You know, I do believe BingoT said it best. Circle jerk! Guess what, Robert? No one wants to play!!!

Gamtrak, you are eventually going to have a big problem with these guys and unless you are willing to make it right with cash from your own pocket, one or more of your players is eventually going to get screwed. Take off those blinkers and think about how short sighted, self centered, and money hungry you are being.

Bryan, Swampy, MrR, BB28, I admire you telling it like it is! Somehow, someway, some day, these clip joints will hopefully fold. If affiliates get a clue and quit promoting them.

 

[bb28]

I'm not here to be the watchdog.

Whether you agree or not, since you consider them "your" players, you have every responsibility to be their watchdog, it's not fair to put that on someone else. Promoting such a company that has such a bad rep, well it does reflect on you, like it or not.

 

[Pinababy69]

Nope not today Bryan.

I was just stating the facts. I have players that deposit and play and have never had a complaint. I'm not here to be the watchdog. That's you job.

How the fuck does anyone expect him to be an effective watchdog when you and others just like you have the attitude that "as long as I get paid, all is hunky dory in Virtual Land". Gimme a fucking break.

Time for me to go to bed. This shit seriously makes my head hurt...and I'm dead serious.

 

[suzecat]

Hiya Robert .............. do you anticipate any payout problems which would require your participation (after all the new leaves have been turned)? Do you know if players with payment issues will be able to use the PAB service that CM provides?

Bump ................... can't seem to find GW's reply to these questions

 

[mrracetrack]

Under "Gambling Wages" reputation box... which is currently "RED"...

When you mouse over it... it says...

"Gambling Wages tends to piss everyone off"... :lolsign:

How appropriate!!


:clap: ​

 

[The Dude]

Hello Mr. Meister,
We would like to invite you to visit our offices here in Costa Rica.
When may we send you the ticket.
Also as I have said before, I'm here for present issues if any should arise.

Thanks,

Ha ha - good one. This would be about the third time I've been invited. I've turned them all down since I know I'd end up in a ditch in some jungle.

Well, you do have a present issue. Address Mr. A's issue concerning the money you owe him and why you can't keep his payments on schedule.

 

[KasinoKing]

I've taken a lot of flack for promoting your brands, but I don't waste time worrying about such things as long as my players don't have a problem with your brands and I get paid on time, then I don't have a problem with you.

and

Nope not today Bryan.

I was just stating the facts. I have players that deposit and play and have never had a complaint.
I'm not here to be the watchdog. That's you job.

With all due respect - how on earth do you know all your players?
I have had 1000's of players sign up to various casinos via my site & yet I only know who a handful of them actually are.
The vast majority of people don't even realise what an affiliate is, and even if they did most would probably forget where they first clicked on a casinos banner anyway.
For my first 4-5 years as an online player I was totally oblivious to this myself, so there's absolutely no way you can possibly know that no-one who clicked your links has had any problems.

Your prerogative to promote who you want, but I would urge you & all other sites promoting these 'less than reputable' casinos to take your links down now and help your fellow webmasters try to make online gambling a safe & secure pastime for everybody. We would ALL benefit in the end.

KK

 

[Pinababy69]

I've turned them all down since I know I'd end up in a ditch in some jungle.

Ha ha....God as my witness, I swear I was gonna post almost the exact same thing last night....that you'd never return if you went there. I wasn't sure how a comment like that would be received, so I just let it go. But coming from you, it's even funnier.