Hats off to Montana Overseas

chucho

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It is official, Montana Overseas is the most powerful organization in the world. A friend of mine played at Lucky Coin and American Grand casinos. (I told her to play there because I don't like her very much :D She cashed in about $1000 total at both. She got the usual run around from the casinos, they did not receive her fax form and ID even though she sent it 3 times, etc. Finally the casinos returned her 2 $100 deposits. So she called the casino and they told her she would not get paid because she was a bonus hooker. So she pitched a bitch with Casino Meister. After about a month and several unreturned emails to casino meister, he finally wrote back stating that both she and the casino determined that my friend and another player both played from the same IP address. Apparently what happened was that both my friend and her boyfriend emailed the same casinos and pitched a bitch from the same computer. Emailed mind you, they did not play or ever log into each others accounts on the same computer. She emailed casino meister asking if that was the reason why he said that two people played on the same IP but he never wrote back.

So out of desperation, she went to
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and filed a complaint. After about a month she was paid in full by both casinos. The best part was when Oliver Curran wrote "I will never pay these fraudsters, you can shut me down before I do" Well, I guess Montana can shut him down now :D And I guess from casino meisters side it looked funny, two different people sending in bitches form the same IP, but that is not conclusive nor is it against the terms of any casino for two players to send emails from the same computer/ip. The moral of the story is skip pitching a bitch with casino meister if you have trouble with an RTG as he is not as effective and returns about 10% of the emails you send him. So if you have ever been screwed by and RTG, contact Montana because if they can get money out of Curran, they can do anything. The other moral of the story is, lets all bonus whore, hook and pimp on Oliver Curran's 200% bonuses as you will, after a little work and a month or so of waiting, get paid!
 
chucho , you and bonushunter are the same crooks, if you do friends that way you will not make it in the hood. That is straight up punkish to send someone over to any of them casinos. And knowing you you was the boyfriend:cool:
 
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chucho said:
The moral of the story is skip pitching a bitch with casino meister if you have trouble with an RTG as he is not as effective and returns about 10% of the emails you send him.

Do you think you are the most important person in the world and Bryan is supposed to drop everything to deal with your problem? I think not! Maybe for once you could try and use your head and realise that there are thousands of members and players here and that there is most likely a lot of complaints to deal with before getting to yours. A waste of time to even read this post but when I see such an ignorant comment I have to throw in my two cents.
 
Quote "The moral of the story is skip pitching a bitch with casino meister if you have trouble with an RTG as he is not as effective and returns about 10% of the emails you send him. So if you have ever been screwed by and RTG, contact Montana because if they can get money out of Curran, they can do anything. The other moral of the story is, lets all bonus whore, hook and pimp on Oliver Curran's 200% bonuses as you will, after a little work and a month or so of waiting, get paid!"
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chucho

No Chucho, The real moral of this story is: never NEVER trust Chucho's judgement and/or reccommendations on anything. If you would knowingly do that to even an acquaintance, I'd hate to see what you'd do to or for a friend.
 
bethug said:
chucho , you and bonushunter are the same crooks, if you do friends that way you will not make it in the hood. That is straight up punkish to send someone over to any of them casinos. And knowing you you was the boyfriend:cool:

"not make it in the hood" How many skinny white guys like myself would. How many successful white guys would want to "make it" in the hood. I have visited South Central, Watts, Compton, the watts towers, etc and with all due respect, I would never want to "make it" there or even visit again. Besides, I would get car jacked at the first stoplight being a white boy in an Audi TT Roadster.

As for me sending someone to "any of them casinos" That was sarcasm, a joke, which is why I put the :D right after that. But it is understandable that it might not have come off that way so you and Ciper can rest assured that I did not send anyone to the crook Curran.
 
Black21Jack said:
Do you think you are the most important person in the world and Bryan is supposed to drop everything to deal with your problem? I think not! Maybe for once you could try and use your head and realise that there are thousands of members and players here and that there is most likely a lot of complaints to deal with before getting to yours. A waste of time to even read this post but when I see such an ignorant comment I have to throw in my two cents.

My friend gave Bryan plenty of time, 7 weeks, and emailed him only once a week after about week 2. Based on what she told me, he did not respond to her emails until the 7th week when has said that her IP matched another. When she explained to him that she and her boyfriend both emailed him from her house and did not play at the same house, he did not respond. And in the end she was right, got paid, Curran was wrong and Meister did not help other than to slow down the process. I understand that he is busy, has thousands of people waiting on the same thing and may of them are trying to pull a scam. He personally helped me get paid at a casino about a year ago and I sent him a DVD as thanks.

So as you said, "there are thousands of members and players here and that there is most likely a lot of complaints to deal with before getting to yours" but you said that before you had any idea of the time frame. How long should someone go before Bryan should write back? I think that sending him 6 emails in 6 weeks and finally getting a response on week 7 is a little much. So I say to you, maybe for once you could try and use your head and realize that there are thousands of members who are better off going to Montana as they were responsive, fast, organized and settled the matter in the fairest way possible. I was just trying to give them a thumbs up, not Casino Meister thumbs down. And obviously he cannot handle the load of bitches he has so if Montana can take some of the load off him, than everyone wins.
 
Chucho, you are like a big fat mushroom - people feed you bullshit and keep you in the dark. These players you are referring to are so full of shit - Montana should have conferred with me before they made any payout because these players are scammers. They screwed up. But we all screw up occasionally, don't we?

Especially when we rely on the BS from fraudsters who you're so buddy buddy with. You are so freakin' out in left field it ain't funny.

Eric emailed me his PAB in June while I was on vacation. When I came back I replied to him that I would be getting to it (13 days after his submital). It was another two weeks before it went to the casino - case denied - the player was trying to scam the casino out of a sign up bonus he didn't deserve.

Then Jenna emails her PAB in August, about some cashin she wasn't getting - that I responded to immediately and she got an answer back - denied - she had been associated with other players via IP addresses and similar playing patterns.

Then Peter emails his PAB a couple of days later - I got on it right away - and the casino sent back documents that showed that these players were related by IPs etc. I do a check on my end and out of over 10,000 stored emails only these three players shared the same IP address.

Then to top it off, Eric emails me thanking me for helping him get one of the payments out of the casino and signs off Peter!!

So don't come in here touting how great your friends are at ripping off people.

And don't come in my forum dissin' me, that's the quickest way to get the boot.

If any of your scummy fraudster buddies think I'm in the wrong. I'll post all of there emails here no problem. Dates, names, and all.

Oh and by the way, thanks for reminding me to ban "elcooler" from the forum. He is one of the dicks who wasted the time I should have spent playing with my kids.

Go ahead and bonus whore all you want. I'll be damned if I ever lift a finger to assist you.
 
casinomeister said:
Chucho, you are like a big fat mushroom - people feed you bullshit and keep you in the dark. These players you are referring to are so full of shit - Montana should have conferred with me before they made any payout because these players are scammers. They screwed up. But we all screw up occasionally, don't we?

Especially when we rely on the BS from fraudsters who you're so buddy buddy with. You are so freakin' out in left field it ain't funny.

Eric emailed me his PAB in June while I was on vacation. When I came back I replied to him that I would be getting to it (13 days after his submital). It was another two weeks before it went to the casino - case denied - the player was trying to scam the casino out of a sign up bonus he didn't deserve.

Then Jenna emails her PAB in August, about some cashin she wasn't getting - that I responded to immediately and she got an answer back - denied - she had been associated with other players via IP addresses and similar playing patterns.

Then Peter emails his PAB a couple of days later - I got on it right away - and the casino sent back documents that showed that these players were related by IPs etc. I do a check on my end and out of over 10,000 stored emails only these three players shared the same IP address.

Then to top it off, Eric emails me thanking me for helping him get one of the payments out of the casino and signs off Peter!!

So don't come in here touting how great your friends are at ripping off people.

And don't come in my forum dissin' me, that's the quickest way to get the boot.

If any of your scummy fraudster buddies think I'm in the wrong. I'll post all of there emails here no problem. Dates, names, and all.

Oh and by the way, thanks for reminding me to ban "elcooler" from the forum. He is one of the dicks who wasted the time I should have spent playing with my kids.

Go ahead and bonus whore all you want. I'll be damned if I ever lift a finger to assist you.

I was not upset with you nor was I trying to dis you, if you took it that way I am sorry. As for the details above, I can not prove or disprove any of what you said as it was not me, but I can confirm that they were my friends who probably used the same computer to email you from. That is the only thing that was proven and Montana decided in the favor of one of my friends based on that, I guess they determined that it was not a violation of terms to email from the same IP address or to have similar playing patters as others that have similar IPs. All I wanted to say in this post, not knowing that you already said it, was that you are better off going to Montana then CM on RTG problems. I don't expect anyone to lift a finger to help me and as I said before you did help me about a year ago. I had the same experience as my friends. I was patient and emailed you about every 7-10 days asking for an update, but I did not receive a response for 3 weeks/3 emails. My friends, or as you put it "scummy buddies, had the same experience. I understand that you get thousands of emails regarding bitches and it must be overwhelming. So while it is hard to say anything wrong about your pitch a bitch service, at the same time I think that in any situation where you offer a service, the person offering the service should respond to emails he receives within a timely manner. Sure there are exceptions to this rule, the guy who emails you every day asking for an update. And I cannot honestly say that my friends did not do that, maybe they did, after all they are scummy :thumbsup: I can only 100% verify my own personal experience from a year ago where I emailed you and the 4th time/1 1/2 months later I got a response.

This post was a "thumbs up to Montana", not about touting about how great my scummy friends are at ripping people off. Sorry if I upset anybody and I hope to hell that no one else out there has a similar IP or has similar playing patterns as my "scummy friends" as they will soon be crucified

P.S. This is nothing to get upset about and I am surprised that anyone did, and I dont think name calling of people is justified when we dont know anything personally about the people involved. It does not bother me, I dont take it personally, but I dont see how it helps this forum.
 
chucho, u know straight up you break casino terms and your friends do too, when u get caught you wast byran time trying to get money you won by breaking the terms.

I feel bad for the real people that need help, cause all bonus scammers will be hitting up Montana with fraud. So much fraud that when the real player need help they want get it.

Chucho tell your people if they cant win by the rules dont complain when they get caught.

one other thing, white, asians and etc drive every day thru the hood with all types of cars and no one getting jack like you say.
 
Sorry for all the "scummy" comments. I had a Drill Sergeant flash-back.

But it wasn't as simpe as merely having a matching IP. These three people are using the same computer - playing on each other's account - and the two guys are really only one. That's fraud - simple as that.
 

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