Harry's Videoslots Marathon

[goatwack]

I would fully understand if some would be offended (is maybe the wrong word but i can't find a better one at the moment) by my reporting or think it is just made up. I would like to highlight that it is purely my personal opinion about the games and they probably can deliver some results once in a while. Anyway, here is a screenshot of the last iSoftBet that i just played on, that reflects how the games are running in general. Look at the numbers pointed with the arrow.

2 pays in first 32 spins, 1x 0.5 bet + 1x 1.2x bet, and this has happened on about 60% of all iSoftBet that i tried. That is just abysmal because you are straight from the start on the back foot to just recover back to the starting balance. Whether you get then a bonus round which brings you back a little is irrelevant, just think i play this slot with $6/spin, that is 200$ gone in 2 minutes.

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[jjezebel37]

I've only just came across this thread and I have really enjoyed it.


Good luck Harry!

 

[Jd666]

Better watch Harry now, he's changed colour

 

[aceking123]

Just to back you up Harry i have been playing isoftbet @ trada for the last two/three weeks at bigger stakes , i've had great rounds on isoftbet @ another casino early in the year great gaming in fact, mainly with a couple of slots alice slot & shaolin spin.

Now since they've messed around with these games , meaning the sudden slow for two scatters it clearly seems to me that something has changed with there games , im down at 50%RTP in trada & have even asked cs for a report because it did not seem natural what i was getting agaisnt spins , the same to the effect of far far too many dead spins with lowest combi, happy birds is a ripoff , another to where i have now had 33 chances of a feature is neon lights slot , (work out the maths for not a trigger on that ) also rome slot did get a bonus round game is broken cannot log into it even after reporting it.

i do however like there software , its different & better than genii & the other one

keep up the good work on the slot report , as a player your not far from what i've found in regards to games

 

[slotter999]

Good work Harry.

I was glad someone else found bloopers by ELK Gaming as enjoyable as me. Love the third reel bonus animation. Just a shame it's so hard to win big on any of their games.

I've been on a bit of a slot mission myself recently although nowhere near your levels. And I have to say that I'm extremely happy with red Tiger gaming. I've had some seriously impressive wins and they definitely have an excitement factor when you hit free spins as there is real upside potential.. Something which has waned over the years. The diversity of the games too....the Chinese themed game with the cloning wilds is really good as is the Gonzos / big blox clone.

The thing which sticks out for me from your report is the high number of truely horrible slots on offer which in my mind is also a reflection on videoslots themselves. Their approach appears to be "stock everything" regardless of quality. I would like to see more quality control on their part i.e. this plays like absolute shit there is no way we'll run it. I noted this on another thread too where they were announcing/releasing slots with shambolic payouts which I guess was done not for the player but some other reason (nobody is demanding 90% RTP slots).

Anyway. Good luck on the rest of your trials and fingers crossed you bag a whale.

 

[miksaxxx]

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Nice profit going on..

Hope that you get some 1000x bet win soon.

Ps. This is like my every monthly loss

 

[Steviedoo]

Harry
Those numbers are depressing.
I think mg games will turn it around a bit.

 

[spintee]

Harry
Those numbers are depressing.
I think mg games will turn it around a bit.

You wanna see my game play than

Puts old Harrys in a winers story

 

[Steviedoo]

You wanna see my game play than

Puts old Harrys in a winers story

more depressing...
.between your post, harry's post and dunover's post about how no one on this forum is ahead except if you've won a load of money the way jazzy did ...i am now considering a new hobby/past time/money making scheme....ok not...but those numbers are awful.

 

[spintee]

more depressing...
.between your post, harry's post and dunover's post about how no one on this forum is ahead except if you've won a load of money the way jazzy did ...i am now considering a new hobby/past time/money making scheme....ok not...but those numbers are awful.

Thing Is old H is ok, I would say if I get a changing sum I leave this dump town I am in but to go where? I not going cocky to see H to play slots

Nah I buy best champane and boat, Drown my self either way

 

[SlotGrinder]

I usually always try new slots for some spins when they appear on VS but this thread is making me realise just how awful most providers are I guess it's like choosing casinos to play on . Better off sticking to the ones you know and trust and only considering new ones after hearing a lot of good reports about them

 

[Harry_BKK]

Harry
Those numbers are depressing.
I think mg games will turn it around a bit.

Wait until you see my next iSoftBet sheet. I managed the unbelievable feat to lose yesterday 700$ on minuscule bet sizes, that's how bad those games are playing.

E.g. i played 3 slots with expanding and sticky wilds in FS rounds, which initially sounds promising. However, out of 13 rounds i had on those 3 slots i saw once 1 Wild Reel, and that was Reel 5. None paid more than 3 x bet and they were on average 250-300 spins apart.

I just don't understand how casinos can release such games with a clear conscience that they are providing entertainment for a player.

I am not one to whine much about losses when i get my entertainment value for the money or i can battle myself back to my starting balance before getting greedy and busting out, but at least i have some fun while losing but with iSoftBet you just don't stand a chance. Once you lost over 100X your average bet size it is game over, they just don't produce pays high enough to get you back up. It is just a constant drain on your balance.

Stopped last night on Shaolin Spin after over 1500 spins without a bonus round and 300$ lost @ 0.50$ bets. And it is a 243-liner...but going easily 30-40 spins without paying a single cent, and that repeatedly, then followed by a few spins paying 0.5-2 x bet. Pure robbery.

I would not recommend anyone to play these games, in fact i would advise to stay away or even better, run for the hills.

 

[mina1929]

Wait until you see my next iSoftBet sheet. I managed the unbelievable feat to lose yesterday 700$ on minuscule bet sizes, that's how bad those games are playing.

E.g. i played 3 slots with expanding and sticky wilds in FS rounds, which initially sounds promising. However, out of 13 rounds i had on those 3 slots i saw once 1 Wild Reel, and that was Reel 5. None paid more than 3 x bet and they were on average 250-300 spins apart.

I just don't understand how casinos can release such games with a clear conscience that they are providing entertainment for a player.

I am not one to whine much about losses when i get my entertainment value for the money or i can battle myself back to my starting balance before getting greedy and busting out, but at least i have some fun while losing but with iSoftBet you just don't stand a chance. Once you lost over 100X your average bet size it is game over, they just don't produce pays high enough to get you back up. It is just a constant drain on your balance.

Stopped last night on Shaolin Spin after over 1500 spins without a bonus round and 300$ lost @ 0.50$ bets. And it is a 243-liner...but going easily 30-40 spins without paying a single cent, and that repeatedly, then followed by a few spins paying 0.5-2 x bet. Pure robbery.

I would not recommend anyone to play these games, in fact i would advise to stay away or even better, run for the hills.

I have tried those games myself and they are terrible, some of them look really good but lose heaps before you even win a small amount.

So I know to stay away from those loser games lol

 

[aceking123]

so someone tell me how these machines pass a third party check im seeing a increased spin rate of 20-30 dead spins on all the new games , something has changed for the worst .

 

[Steviedoo]

so someone tell me how these machines pass a third party check im seeing a increased spin rate of 20-30 dead spins on all the new games , something has changed for the worst .

red tiger comes to mind as well as quickspin...

 

[lockinlove]

so someone tell me how these machines pass a third party check im seeing a increased spin rate of 20-30 dead spins on all the new games , something has changed for the worst .

I think they should be banned from online casinos or anywhere to be honest. I tried a whole pile of them on min bet with a bunch of my winning just to mess around.

I had so so so many 20-30 dead spins. Every slot I played was under 50% rtp. I didnt really lose much cause I wasnt betting much but thats not the point. If I was doing $5 bets I would have lost billions

I highly suggest people stay away from these games because there is something very shady going on

 

[aceking123]

to be honest even comparing my stats against harrys , which he plays way more spins than i do, short bursts at higher stakes i play , this weekend has been by far the worst on record & its what im seeing this new trend of 20-30 dead spins is killing all the games , at this rate even a feature unless its 300x times & above wont save the balance, i tried realistic games over at unibet , i lost 500 quid for 6 wins , two of the new slots bully4u & 8 wonder , one had taken a 148 pounds without a win on a 5 line slot TRTP 95% for both these slots , that is just plain disgusting & really should be looked into.

so new year i think its time to walk from these shite money munching slots & go back old school back to bricks & mortar for me , im going to save every deposit for a month & go have fun there , at least in sociable as well )

 

[lockinlove]

so new year i think its time to walk from these shite money munching slots & go back old school back to bricks & mortar for me , im going to save every deposit for a month & go have fun there , at least in sociable as well )

and you can get drunk and meet people at the slots. A lot of times of those people arent the funnest though lmao

I remember I went to the casino once and some guy was doing $500 bets on a roulette slot machine. Numbers all on one section then would walk away and see if he won. He did this for quite sometime. Pumping thousands and thousands in. I was watching between the slot machines because I know its not very cool to hover over someone who is getting slaughtered. But I was interested to see how it would end for him
One of the slot girls walked by me and said "be careful! Hes a grouchy one when hes losing! So try not to let him see you watching him!" LOL. I left him alone and walked past him and said goodluck. He grumbled something. ahaha.

 

[b3b44]

i played some isoftbet yesterday aswell and i must say they did pretty well

Shoalin Spin won a couple of hundred on 0.50~€1 bets

Paranormal activity hit a 300x in the freespins and a few other ones but all in profit on those slots i have played.

Just the wrong time playing those slots i guess....

Good Luck on your journey Harry

 

[Harry_BKK]

to be honest even comparing my stats against harrys , which he plays way more spins than i do, short bursts at higher stakes i play , this weekend has been by far the worst on record & its what im seeing this new trend of 20-30 dead spins is killing all the games , at this rate even a feature unless its 300x times & above wont save the balance, i tried realistic games over at unibet , i lost 500 quid for 6 wins , two of the new slots bully4u & 8 wonder , one had taken a 148 pounds without a win on a 5 line slot TRTP 95% for both these slots , that is just plain disgusting & really should be looked into.

so new year i think its time to walk from these shite money munching slots & go back old school back to bricks & mortar for me , im going to save every deposit for a month & go have fun there , at least in sociable as well )

I wouldn't even mind the 20-30 dead spins if the line pays in the base game, once you hit then one, would be something substantial but you'd be lucky to have 20x bet for a 5OAK Top Symbol! ....usually even the high symbols are just at 2-4x bet, low ones mostly below 1x bet. Or if you get then some OK'ish payouts in the Free Spins but they are as rare as snow in Bangkok. ...Not to see some expanding wilds in 13 bonus rounds, which is the only way to make it back on these slots e.g. Musketeer, to have some sort of pay is just ridiculous.

Now i might have caught them in the wrong moment but hell, that is some f*cking long moment as i played the slots over 2.5 days and never saw anything resembling some sort of good run in over 40 slots. b3b44 is the only one here reporting a good run on the games, you must be a very lucky player! :notworthy

To lose $700 mainly on 0.25 - 0.50 bets in one day is for me unheard off. That developers are programming games that can run that bad is absolutely irresponsible and it is even more irresponsible from casinos that put them up on their website.

 

[b3b44]

i only played the those slots on last friday and saturday if i recall correctly and they did run pretty good especially shoalin spin on 0.50 bets won 300~350 euro which is pretty good in my book on those low bets but haven't played those slots since...

Guess i'll be waiting a few weeks before i touch those slots again

Hope you'll get a better run Harry

 

[Harry_BKK]

i only played the those slots on last friday and saturday if i recall correctly and they did run pretty good especially shoalin spin on 0.50 bets won 300~350 euro which is pretty good in my book on those low bets but haven't played those slots since...

Guess i'll be waiting a few weeks before i touch those slots again

Hope you'll get a better run Harry

Thanks.

Had to take a break after those losses as i depleted my budget and an additional $500 which i normally don't do. Will be another few days before i will carry on now, let's hope with some better results. This marathon has been so far to the largest part either a "snooze-fest" or sky high losses, neither very exciting.

 

[b3b44]

I'm happy for you that you can't play the Rhino otherwise you might need a new laptop again .

It has huge potential like most slots but when do we actually hit those greats hits?

I have to say once maybe twice a year if we get lucky (1000x+) and for the rest of the year we are playing these slots with our pants down and bending over.

It still surprises me that you have played so many providers yet so few big wins (+300x)

Makes me wonder.........

But good luck on your journey once again Harry

 

[Alfran]

no fun at all! lets hope we are leaving all the bad luck in 2016.

Thanks.

Had to take a break after those losses as i depleted my budget and an additional $500 which i normally don't do. Will be another few days before i will carry on now, let's hope with some better results. This marathon has been so far to the largest part either a "snooze-fest" or sky high losses, neither very exciting.

 

[mina1929]

Harry your next session will be a huge win, fingers crossed and hoping

A very huge luck to you

 

[Harry_BKK]

Good morning lovely people!

Time to carry on with the marathon, hope the 4-day break has helped.

Down to business:

- marathon will continue @ 08:00am GMT / 09:00 CET
- game provider: finish awful iSoftBet and then on to the mighty big providers
- strategy: same as before...hit spin and pray for a good win
- reports to follow

Wishing you an awesome mid-week day!

P.S. Deadline for the AUD50 raffle is today, 15:00 GMT / 16:00 CET. The winner will be announced latest tomorrow. There is still time to post your Christmas story

 

[Jd666]

Good luck Harry.

Be nice to see you in profit for a session

 

[Chipkin9]

Good morning lovely people!

Time to carry on with the marathon, hope the 4-day break has helped.

Down to business:

- marathon will continue @ 08:00am GMT / 09:00 CET
- game provider: finish awful iSoftBet and then on to the mighty big providers
- strategy: same as before...hit spin and pray for a good win
- reports to follow

Wishing you an awesome mid-week day!

P.S. Deadline for the AUD50 raffle is today, 15:00 GMT / 16:00 CET. The winner will be announced latest tomorrow. There is still time to post your Christmas story

There is a raffle? Huh.

I've been too busy keeping up with your marathon, I failed to even notice.

Well here's mine, and to be honest I'm not even ashamed or embarrassed as I was only 6 at the time.

Well, it was Christmas morning and I was first to wake. I ran downstairs excitedly to open my presents.

My sister and I had our xmas presents on separate sides of the living room; with her wrapped presents on one sofa and my wrapped presents on another and all the santa toys out in the open.

Before opening my own presents I decided it was best to see what Santa and everyone else had left for my sister and proceeded to unwrap all her presents.

My parents and sister came downstairs to me playing with all her stuff (Pram and all). True story

Having written & reread all that back the guilt is just hitting me...

PS: Good Luck with the rest of your Marathon maybe the slot Gods will be on your side today

 

[Harry_BKK]

Part 29 - iSoftBet - Part 3

Geez, am i happy to have finished this provider. Although 1 or 2 were somewhat better slots today, namely Legends of Skull and Robo Smash. They at least show some potential and LoS is entertaining with multiple features.

Next is the last one of the small providers Genesis!

FYI, i cannot play all SG games - WMS, Bally, Barcrest, Shufflemaster etc.

Remaining providers are: MG, Netent, Playtech, Rival, Play N'GO, NextGen

My final advice regarding iSoftBet - proceed with caution, a lot of it. Base game is regularly 20-30% RTP and the bonus rounds are 7-8/10 a complete miss, hence no recovery to be expected. Either you are superlucky and hit some bonus rounds in quick succession or if they take long to hit it must be on at least double your usual bet!

Today i deposited total $500 and ended ahead only because i hit one bonus round at $3.75 instead of the usual $1.25 bet and one at $5.00 instead of $2.50. Take those extra pays off and my balance would be $470 lower, ending with hefty $220 loss on a just few slots.



This is one of the reason i gave Legends of Skull a 6-7. Collect wilds and once the counter is full the whole reel goes wild for a total 4 spins. With a little luck you have 2 reels wild and then just 3OAK's on 30 lines will give you at least 20x bet wins. That slot has some potential, the bonus round as well.

 

[Jasminebed]

I think you under-estimated Paranormal. It can produce some pretty good wins, and was voted as one of the best new slots of the year in Dunover's informal poll.

Glad to see you made at least a small profit today.

 

[goatwack]

It'll be good seeing Harry's playthrough on Rival. Much like Playtech, they're criminally underrated and lambasted but the software itself is great.

Even if we can't play it in the UK anymore

 

[Harry_BKK]

I think you under-estimated Paranormal. It can produce some pretty good wins, and was voted as one of the best new slots of the year in Dunover's informal poll.

Glad to see you made at least a small profit today.

Sure can, i don't doubt that. But i will never give a game my vote when after 100's of spins you finally get 3 scatter, you then get to make a choice out of 3 and minimum 1/3 will be a coin win of 2xbet!!! ....that is just totally unacceptable in my view.

What it can produce in wins is then irrelevant to me. If i hit 3 scatter i want some bonus round or free spins not a shitty 2xbet pay.

 

[nikantw]

What it can produce in wins is then irrelevant to me. If i hit 3 scatter i want some bonus round or free spins not a shitty 2xbet pay.

That is why netent wants to hire programmers that understand player psychology, as we saw in their site sometime ago.

On another note, thank you so much for doing this.
If you were doing it on my casino (if I had one ) I would give you 100% unlimited cashback on your loses during the marathon for bets up to 5.00 or something.

 

[SlotGrinder]

Thing is , what players want from a game and what makes them spend the most money on said game are two different things . Making slots that players enjoy is not the primary goal of course although it is an important factor . Understanding of player psychology will be used to create slots that keep us playing as long as possible . I expect bonus teases and the like are an important part of that. That feeling that you're one spin away from a nice random feature or triple wild reel excitement . If they don't have teases then you just see the reality of dead spin after dead spin and quickly leave the game

 

[Harry_BKK]

Part 30 - Genesis

Geez, last time it was Shaolin Spin, today Disco Night Fright. The slot is supposed to give extra wilds in FS, can be stacked and pays are quite high, hence some potential...only problem is that in 13 bonus rounds with 10 Free Spins i never saw a single 3OAK, let alone more of those wilds. Absolutely ridiculous to program a slot like that

But then the Viking to the rescue, Valkyrie with wild on reel 1,2,3 and 5...see pic below.

However, some good news...i have a third "must try slot" - Dinosaur Adventure or call it Rhino junior as it is in 5x4 = 1024 ways format. Much less volatile then the original. Even the pay for 5OAK Dinosaur is the same as for 6OAK Rhino = 7.5xbet, see screenshot

Other than that Genesis is absolutely horrible, they insist on having 2OAK 9's as a pay and on Autospin you can skip the win count and it takes forever to start the next spin.

 

[spintee]

Part 30 - Genesis

Geez, last time it was Shaolin Spin, today Disco Night Fright. The slot is supposed to give extra wilds in FS, can be stacked and pays are quite high, hence some potential...only problem is that in 13 bonus rounds with 10 Free Spins i never saw a single 3OAK, let alone more of those wilds. Absolutely ridiculous to program a slot like that

But then the Viking to the rescue, Valkyrie with wild on reel 1,2,3 and 5...see pic below.

However, some good news...i have a third "must try slot" - Dinosaur Adventure or call it Rhino junior as it is in 5x4 = 1024 ways format. Much less volatile then the original. Even the pay for 5OAK Dinosaur is the same as for 6OAK Rhino = 7.5xbet, see screenshot

Other than that Genesis is absolutely horrible, they insist on having 2OAK 9's as a pay and on Autospin you can skip the win count and it takes forever to start the next spin.

Talk about rhino'e littles sister I came across its cousin the other day, Silver Lion, Not seen the game b4 and its good

 

[Jasminebed]

Glad to see TSII come through for you.

I've had visions of you hitting that 5 wild wildstorm on 60 cents going through MG and defenstering your brand new laptop!

 

[Mouche12]

Yep Harry, good to see your wins on the Dinosaur and TSII, softens the pain somewhat of your losses so far, hope to see some more (winnings)!

 

[Harry_BKK]

And the winner is....

First of all, thanks ever so much for sharing your personal Christmas story, brings us all a little closer together as a community.

As announced yesterday, i raffled off the prize of AUD50 today. To make it as fair and impartial as possible i wrote your CM usernames in a numbered list in consecutive order as you posted your story. I ended up with 15 numbers and employed then an online random number generator to draw the winner. I very much hope you are OK with that.

Posted Christmas stories:

1 NutNut
2 Jono777
3 geordiecolin
4 JDRocks
5 spintee
6 mina1929
7 mimi26
8 interlog
9 Deeplay
10 mrshyguy
11 lotusch
12 QueenBee
13 nikantw
14 Jasminebed
15 Chipkin9

Drumroll please......

and the winner is number 6 - mina1929 :clap:

Congratulations mina, please send me a PM with your name and surname, ecopayz or neteller account number (EP preferred) and i will transfer the prize money immediately.

With this occasion let me wish you all a Merry Christmas!

 

[nikantw]

....
13 nikantw
......

lucky 13


Congratulations mina!
Merry Christmas!!

 

[Jd666]

Bloody hell Harry, what a load of shite these obscure slot makers provide.
Relying on the old faithfulls to claw something back.
Happy Christmas to you as well mate.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Part 31 - Genesis 25-37

Horror show encore!

Geez, some terrible slots, only Dinosaur Adventure stands out from all Genesis games, the rest is shite, shite, shite....sorry, but never again.




Can you guess how this slot works?

 

[slotmaster]

See I told ya it was time for microgaming. If only I can pick slots for myself during this losing streak I am on.

 

[Jd666]

First time I played todays Weather, I got the feature with nudging stacked wilds and ended up with just over 1000x bet.
Kept trying the odd few quid after that and it did naff all.
Had good hits on Drone wars and Tiger VS Bear too, but generally they just drain your money

 

[mina1929]

And the winner is....

First of all, thanks ever so much for sharing your personal Christmas story, brings us all a little closer together as a community.

As announced yesterday, i raffled off the prize of AUD50 today. To make it as fair and impartial as possible i wrote your CM usernames in a numbered list in consecutive order as you posted your story. I ended up with 15 numbers and employed then an online random number generator to draw the winner. I very much hope you are OK with that.

Posted Christmas stories:

1 NutNut
2 Jono777
3 geordiecolin
4 JDRocks
5 spintee
6 mina1929
7 mimi26
8 interlog
9 Deeplay
10 mrshyguy
11 lotusch
12 QueenBee
13 nikantw
14 Jasminebed
15 Chipkin9

Drumroll please......

and the winner is number 6 - mina1929 :clap:

Congratulations mina, please send me a PM with your name and surname, ecopayz or neteller account number (EP preferred) and i will transfer the prize money immediately.

With this occasion let me wish you all a Merry Christmas!

Thanks so much Harry, I truly appreciate it

I hope you have the happiest Xmas ever

 

[Naok777]

Can you guess how this slot works?

Sorry, cheated on the guess part and played it
Two five reel slots in base game, during free spins they both connect with a sticky wild reel in the middle to create one 11 reel slot.

RTP distribution seems very heavily biased towards bonus though.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Sorry, cheated on the guess part and played it
Two five reel slots in base game, during free spins they both connect with a sticky wild reel in the middle to create one 11 reel slot.

RTP distribution seems very heavily biased towards bonus though.

That's right. Geez, some low pays in the base game as they basically are 2x 50-liners, hence you need a lot on the screen just to get your bet back.

First slot that i have seen where you can have an 11OAK, paid both ways.

 

[Vegasbum]

I am not really surprised by your results Harry. Slots are a losing game. You may think your results are dismal but It is the way things are today. I used to play a lot but not so much any more. I noticed a change in Microgaming after the USA could no longer play and that is when I slowed down my play. Sure we all get some big wins once in a while but in between big wins the slots RTP has to be no more than 60%.

The new slots today are terrible. In both design and pay back. It is time for a new hobby.

 

[Jasminebed]

Vegasbum, my one line hero. Nice to see you again.

Have fun with Harry's $50 mina.

Thank you Harry for this huge undertaking.

I think most of us are familiar with MG and NetEnt's catalogues, and they are huge.

I know you did not ask for my advice, and although we have a brief acquaintance, I know when you are a man with a mission, you are a man with a mission.

I've appreciated your input on games. But you've awarded the Christmas prize, maybe put "to be continued" on the thread and just play what you enjoy for a bit.

You certainly deserve that.

 

[jumboshrimp]

I agree with Jasmine, put videoslots to rest and continue it elsewhere or stop altogether. You have done a yeoman's job.

It would be interesting to see the same games repeated elsewhere by somebody.

I think you have become jaded with all this poor return, I would give Today's Weather a solid 8 out of 10. Massive return potential and I find it fun to play when it is not ice cold.

Happy Holidays(49%RTP BTW), everyone!