Harder to WIN nowadays? [SLOTS]

maosk21

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Feb 28, 2013
Location
sweden
Soo. I've been gambling for a while. Since ~ 2011.

I can't help to feel that making a decent cashout is much harder nowadays.

3-5 years ago, it all felt more random. I've done millions of spins since 2011 & i can't help to feel that something has changed.

I used to cashout like every 3-5th deposit. Nowadays it's more like every 10th, deposit.

I think it's time for me to give online casinos up, as they feel more like a scratch card nowadays(very rare to win a decent amount).

--

My latest example is from today.

I deposited 400 euro, went to maybe 10 different slot machines from different providers.

How it went:
I went from 400 to maybe 370, then won up to 390, then down to 330 & then up to 350 and so on until balance = ZERO.

And this happens all to often nowadays. The fun from gambling on online slots is almost gone. The house edge seems way to big.

I had 26 dead spins on templar tumble in a row for example.

And it feels like 10-15 deadspins on every slot is the new common. That is not how i remember it to be.

This is just my thoughts, but there is something that has changed. I can feel it.

What are your opinions on this topic?
 

maosk21

Full Member
Joined
Feb 28, 2013
Location
sweden
Harder?
That’s impossible to win!
Buy-bonus games return 20% all the time.
Regular games take 1000 spins to get 20x
They broken the games!

Yes! Agreed!

I think im gonna pay for like 5x scratch cards every week instead.
They have without a doubt lowered the chance of winning.
Of course i don't have any proof, But when you have played for such a long time on online casinos as i have, you feel that something has changed.

This is a thing you will never be able to prove.

But if you've played a lot since 2011/2014, then you know what im talking about.
 

Eliot85

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Dec 14, 2020
Location
Sweden
Same here i am giving up, it is not wort it… I dont know what they offer nowday, etertainemnt? 100 euro lasts 10min. Almost inpossible to win… Leave the casinos with the streamers and their dayli 1000xwins
 

maosk21

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Feb 28, 2013
Location
sweden
Same here i am giving up, it is not wort it… I dont know what they offer nowday, etertainemnt? 100 euro lasts 10min. Almost inpossible to win… Leave the casinos with the streamers and their dayli 1000xwins

It's not even entertainment when you see your balanceget lower and lower, and no bonuses. Or if you get one it's like you say.. Very low win.

For example i got into jack and the beanstalk bonus 4 times today with 1 euro spin. My highest win was 27 euro. The rest rounds was under 5 euro. And as i said before. This happens like 90 % of bonus rounds nowadays.

i know im not alone in this boat. i see several threads on different forums that describe exactly the same thing.

I think this was my last deposit.

At least you want to have a feeling that you have chance to win. But hey have destroyed it.
 

trees

Newbie member
Joined
Apr 30, 2019
Location
nl
same here. online gaming is rubbish nowadays.
no vip agents only automated system u can get a bonus or not.
wagering way too high.
and impossible to win.
the fun is gone.
i been losing for last 2 years only.
in the past u can get a winning streak nowadays i think they have our email or names.
it feels that we are controlled by them.
if u see the youtubers winning all the time big on pragmatic games.
well i can tell u i have spin over millions spins and havent got a win like they did.
its all fake and it just felt i been cheated out on the live games too.
never seen anything like this.
nothing is random ALL AND EVERTHING IS CONTROLLED!!!
 

Eliot85

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Joined
Dec 14, 2020
Location
Sweden
Use only casinos that run the highest RTPs. You will still lose, but get more play time.
Last cashout was april… deposited 30k euro sins then
It's not even entertainment when you see your balanceget lower and lower, and no bonuses. Or if you get one it's like you say.. Very low win.

For example i got into jack and the beanstalk bonus 4 times today with 1 euro spin. My highest win was 27 euro. The rest rounds was under 5 euro. And as i said before. This happens like 90 % of bonus rounds nowadays.

i know im not alone in this boat. i see several threads on different forums that describe exactly the same thing.

I think this was my last deposit.

At least you want to have a feeling that you have chance to win. But hey have destroyed it.
 

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Eliot85

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Sweden
Netent maxwin on bonus nowdays is 50x… Unless u dont play Doa and are 1 in a million ho gets that massive win..
 

Eliot85

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Joined
Dec 14, 2020
Location
Sweden
same here. online gaming is rubbish nowadays.
no vip agents only automated system u can get a bonus or not.
wagering way too high.
and impossible to win.
the fun is gone.
i been losing for last 2 years only.
in the past u can get a winning streak nowadays i think they have our email or names.
it feels that we are controlled by them.
if u see the youtubers winning all the time big on pragmatic games.
well i can tell u i have spin over millions spins and havent got a win like they did.
its all fake and it just felt i been cheated out on the live games too.
never seen anything like this.
nothing is random ALL AND EVERTHING IS CONTROLLED!!!
Yes and the casinos are to greddy.. I got 15euro bonus after a 7500k deposit in 1 day
 

maosk21

Full Member
Joined
Feb 28, 2013
Location
sweden
Netent maxwin on bonus nowdays is 50x… Unless u dont play Doa and are 1 in a million ho gets that massive win..

That's like the only slot from Netent that i play, if i play.

The boring part with DOA, is that your balance will allways be ripped if you dont get a wildline or 5 scatters.

No other chance of winning on that one, just loosing.
 

neon claws

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Joined
Jan 5, 2020
Location
Australia
Oh good another thread about this.
I especially enjoy hearing about how you're all quitting gambling for good- as if your self control were any better than your critical thinking skills.
 

CasinoNinja

Non-Gambler
Joined
Apr 27, 2017
Location
UK
They have without a doubt lowered the chance of winning.
Of course i don't have any proof, But when you have played for such a long time on online casinos as i have, you feel that something has changed.

This is a thing you will never be able to prove.
Well, many have. They lowered the slots RTP from 96% to 90-94%, not hard to see. Have a look in the help file on the slots :)
 

Flyingslotsman

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Joined
Mar 14, 2015
Location
Scotland
Most likely down to higher volatility in the slots these days, nlc for one comes to mind, unless you have unlimited bonus buy funds you're screwed. I only ever low roll now, 9p-60p max, purely for entertainment and fun. If the deposit goes, it goes. It does seem to take forever to bonus games these days, but again.... Volatility
 

johnnymcc1966

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 12, 2017
Location
United Kingdom
Most likely down to higher volatility in the slots these days, nlc for one comes to mind, unless you have unlimited bonus buy funds you're screwed. I only ever low roll now, 9p-60p max, purely for entertainment and fun. If the deposit goes, it goes. It does seem to take forever to bonus games these days, but again.... Volatility
Even netent slots are harder to bonus,not just the high volatility. The RTPs are the key and are killing balances.
 

Frankey78

Newbie member
Joined
Aug 25, 2021
Location
Cologne
Soo. I've been gambling for a while. Since ~ 2011.

I can't help to feel that making a decent cashout is much harder nowadays.

3-5 years ago, it all felt more random. I've done millions of spins since 2011 & i can't help to feel that something has changed.

I used to cashout like every 3-5th deposit. Nowadays it's more like every 10th, deposit.

I think it's time for me to give online casinos up, as they feel more like a scratch card nowadays(very rare to win a decent amount).

--

My latest example is from today.

I deposited 400 euro, went to maybe 10 different slot machines from different providers.

How it went:
I went from 400 to maybe 370, then won up to 390, then down to 330 & then up to 350 and so on until balance = ZERO.

And this happens all to often nowadays. The fun from gambling on online slots is almost gone. The house edge seems way to big.

I had 26 dead spins on templar tumble in a row for example.

And it feels like 10-15 deadspins on every slot is the new common. That is not how i remember it to be.

This is just my thoughts, but there is something that has changed. I can feel it.

What are your opinions on this topic?
 

Frankey78

Newbie member
Joined
Aug 25, 2021
Location
Cologne
Soo. I've been gambling for a while. Since ~ 2011.

I can't help to feel that making a decent cashout is much harder nowadays.

3-5 years ago, it all felt more random. I've done millions of spins since 2011 & i can't help to feel that something has changed.

I used to cashout like every 3-5th deposit. Nowadays it's more like every 10th, deposit.

I think it's time for me to give online casinos up, as they feel more like a scratch card nowadays(very rare to win a decent amount).

--

My latest example is from today.

I deposited 400 euro, went to maybe 10 different slot machines from different providers.

How it went:
I went from 400 to maybe 370, then won up to 390, then down to 330 & then up to 350 and so on until balance = ZERO.

And this happens all to often nowadays. The fun from gambling on online slots is almost gone. The house edge seems way to big.

I had 26 dead spins on templar tumble in a row for example.

And it feels like 10-15 deadspins on every slot is the new common. That is not how i remember it to be.

This is just my thoughts, but there is something that has changed. I can feel it.

What are your opinions on this topic?

Soo. I've been gambling for a while. Since ~ 2011.

I can't help to feel that making a decent cashout is much harder nowadays.

3-5 years ago, it all felt more random. I've done millions of spins since 2011 & i can't help to feel that something has changed.

I used to cashout like every 3-5th deposit. Nowadays it's more like every 10th, deposit.

I think it's time for me to give online casinos up, as they feel more like a scratch card nowadays(very rare to win a decent amount).

--

My latest example is from today.

I deposited 400 euro, went to maybe 10 different slot machines from different providers.

How it went:
I went from 400 to maybe 370, then won up to 390, then down to 330 & then up to 350 and so on until balance = ZERO.

And this happens all to often nowadays. The fun from gambling on online slots is almost gone. The house edge seems way to big.

I had 26 dead spins on templar tumble in a row for example.

And it feels like 10-15 deadspins on every slot is the new common. That is not how i remember it to be.

This is just my thoughts, but there is something that has changed. I can feel it.

What are your opinions on this topic?
You can feel it? Dude, you already did the numbers ion it .I assume you on it for some time now..of course they changed. In the same way my monthly train tickets, got more expansive or my or insurance. But they are things I don't have much control over. But we do have ful control oover our gambling. Al people do is moaning andrhen thinking about it. You can see there same happene on Facebook. They complain about Zuckerberg stealing all their information. blah blah blah. People forget 2 things. no one got forced open an account with a casino or Facebook. And 2 you can quit at any time it really is that simple why keep a Hobby that isn't fun anymore
 

bamberfishcake

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Joined
Jan 8, 2019
Location
Essex
Slots were rigged further from 2015/2016

Another rigging update was put in place 2018/2019 and then to make up for loss of revenue due to Covid-19, they implemented yet another rigging and also nerfed their RTP more recently :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Has there been a loss of revenue due to Covid?

A genuine question Jono, I was under the impression the pandemic increased gambling revenue across the board.
 

Jono777

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CAG
mm1
mm4
Joined
May 13, 2014
Location
Wolverhampton
Has there been a loss of revenue due to Covid?

A genuine question Jono
, I was under the impression the pandemic increased gambling revenue across the board.

No problem mate :)

Nope as far as I aware there has been a boost, hence all the extra OTT RG tools and email bombardment

I was being my usual semi sarcastic self :oops:
 
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