Grand Privé wants to get out of the Rogue Pit

[bsilva028]

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i voted yes
i think they should have a chance to try
i will made a test if it pass
try to win with a deposit of $5 or $10 with low bets
if i get $50 or $60 of winnings i will try to cash out and test them

 

[Repro]

I voted NO.

A casino who has screwed over players and affiliates after giving them "another chance" should never be trusted.
I have never played there and i never will, because i would always be afraid of being their next victim.

 

[hussainyes]

hi every one

i say see no evil play no evil

 

[Mousey]

In a word... No.

They were once the cream of the crop. Excellent bonuses, great CS, fast payouts. Then management changed, and overnight, players were the enemy.

Way before the GP affiliate fiasco and their flight from MG, I was one of their long-time loyal players who experienced the "glitch" in Grand Prive processor which prevented me from depositing. This was no glitch. It was punishment. And no one could ever convince me otherwise. There were a couple of threads on this.

Then, after months of this 'glitch', there was the wide spread bonus ban. The only thing is, they didn't tell the players -- that was a 'fun' Christmas LOL -- but we could all suddenly deposit again.

There were other things... It was like something out of Body Snatchers. The software was the same, the GP casinos looked the same, but it wasn't the GP we all knew and loved. Players left. Many, many of us.

Sorry for being long winded.... My point is... I don't trust them. Not one tiny bit.

 

[marcsudbury]

if a group really wants another chance they should get it. if they screw up and it seems at all fishy the probabtion is done and off to the dungeon you go.

screw up happen it how they are handled that matters.

i've never played there however i am all for trying them out.

 

[sonny11]

Saying Hi to every one

I had some really bad experience. Some one hacked into my computer, took money from my debit card account. Currupted my window settings, my Bank halted all further transactions. One of the reason that caused this is that certain casino that have to make pay outs request for a copy of my debiy card, wanted a copy of my passport and a recent utility bill .They never asked for these information during my multiple deposits and losses but having struct a little win they wanted my entire personal identity. I became so angry I blown away the £500 that they refused to pay back into my debit account. They received my personal details. Today I changed my window and I am happy to be in membership with you. Thanks for allowing me to ventilate. I would love to expose those casino sites.

 

[poser]

I think that only AFTER all recent issues are cleared out they should get this chance.
But I personally wont play there until they are accredited here.

"No" for now.

 

[felicie]

Affiliates will hate me now if they don't already but when I was getting screwed a couple years ago over a cash out there was only one affiliate willing to go to bat for me, the others just took the reps word at everything and that was it. I do agree that the same management would only repeat past mistakes but it seems to be new management so I do play there and don't feel they are any worse than most of the other choices we have. (usa) At the same time, I do think if they owe you money, they should pay it and I hope that for all of you. I voted yes but would certainly keep an eye on the whole situation.

 

[albalaha]

They should be granted non-rogue status only if they have clear policies regarding bonuses and faster payouts. One thing that I feel is very bad is regarding "by invitation only bonuses". This causes lots of hardships to players. A good casino should be prompt in payments, having genuine bonus rules and non-trapping conditions. Further they should have a pemanent representative here in our forum to listen and solve complaints.
They can be granted probation on fulfilling these conditions and not otherwise. My humble opinion.

 

[rudy2005]

Grand Prive

I have been playing there for the last 6 months. When I have had cashouts I have been paid promptly. My only problem is their software. I am unable to enter their lobby which is the only way to access the games. When I click on lobby I get automatically logged out of the casino. This means the only game I can play is their featured slot which is on the opening page when you log in. I'm wondering if anyone else has had a similar problem?

 

[jetset]

Just a personal opinion, but I feel that some posters are starting to drift off topic a little with critiques on features of the site, rather than staying focused on the rogue aspect - in other words how this operator's management does business, and whether it should be trusted sufficiently to be put on probation and ultimately redeemed, which to my mind is what this thread and poll is all about.

 

[GamblersDen]

I've read up on their history, and think that if they can prove themselves they can be put on probationary unrogued for 6 months to 1 year. If they really are under new management then this change could be genuine, but this could just be a tactic to lure in new players and then go back to their old practices. I voted neutral for this one, but am leaning more towards the side of keeping them in rogue for now.

 

[irishgilly]

Allow Grand Prive' A Pass?

Have they payed their affiliates the monies owed them? Have they payed their faithful depositors the monies owed them? No, I do not think so. They are untrustworthy, and I do not believe they have changed their ways, not for one second. I have seen no proof of them turning over a new leaf. I generally like to give people second chances. However, these people have not earned a place in purgatory, they should remain in hell, right where they themselves chose to be. Forgive them just because they say they are sorry? I do not doubt that they are sorry- but only for their selves and the position they now find themselves in. No, I wouldn't trust them to live up to any standards higher than an ant.Are they under new management? If they are- then maybe it should be considered. If they are not- I see no reason to suddenly start trusting them.

 

[funeral979]

I have been playing there for the last 6 months. When I have had cashouts I have been paid promptly. My only problem is their software. I am unable to enter their lobby which is the only way to access the games. When I click on lobby I get automatically logged out of the casino. This means the only game I can play is their featured slot which is on the opening page when you log in. I'm wondering if anyone else has had a similar problem?

I know this is a bit off topic, but this seems to be a little bit of a common problem recently at Bet On Soft sites.

What I find that works is that when the casino opens, instead of logging in, enter the lobby first....then login. This should solve the problem.

 

[H1_Roller]

I have no experience myself with Grand Privé Casino, but going by what others have said I voted no.
Plenty of Casinos have had this sort of chance, and then let themselves down, so what's the point? Learn from experience.
Somebody will see they are out of the Rogue Pit, then play there, win big and then come up against 'problems' and smoke screening rather than clarity and integrity.

 

[ksech]

Personally, I think anyone who tries them now is taking a HUGE gamble. I don't care who "owns" them now. Actions speak louder than words and they haven't proven themselves in the past. Give them a year to pay the affiliates and players they owe money to. How many chances should they be given before they are rogued forever?

In the greater scheme of things, if it weren't for the affiliates who advertise for them, they wouldn't have much of a member base. Every business needs advertising of some sort to expand. If a rogue operation stops paying for the advertising, where are they? PAY THE AFFILIATES WHAT IS OWED! Pay the players you shafted. Other than mass "spamming" which I've encountered in the last 6 months from them (whether through email or snail mail) they're following a close runner-up to Virtual, IMO. I never was a member with their group (that I can recall), so I find even the snail mail "ads" for them a little disconcerting.

I'm going to vote NO, only because there isn't an option for : "let them prove themselves in a year and then move them to the proceed with caution" selection. Their previous "tactics" and "strategies" to maintain a player base is definitely roguish and they need to prove they are no longer the wolf in sheeps clothing...

 

[baldidiot]

Even if they have changed management etc... the mass boycott by affiliates probably means they have not many players left. So how are they doing financially? What if they do have good intentions, but not the cash to back themselves and end up going under.

Maybe this is round 2, first they screwed the affiliates out of $$ and now they're after the players...

Something else for players to consider is that if they do decide to return to GP and it all goes tits up, they'll probably find it hard to get any sympathy (or help) from affiliates.

 

[same_old]

Hi All,

First off I would like to say that everyone and anyone deserves a second chance.

Now after going back and reading past threads I would have to say sorry but "NO" I would not give them a second chance.

You have So many casinos (3dice,32red etc) that have ALWAYS been on the up and up since day ONE of operations. The good operations understand that the clients/players who are the MOST important to them and in saying that will always provide a top quality honest casino.

It would be an absolute injustice to even consider putting them back up when you have 32red going out of there way to make sure the client is happy AND satisfied.

Why on Earth would we want to give Grand Prive another chance when you have the good ones working there butts off to get us on board as players. I'm sorry but it is obvious the greed for money surpassed the desire to look after the player and affiliate so why even consider them again.

On another note:
Bryan we all come here because we know what your site stands for. I say make an example of them so CASINOS know NOT to take casinomeister lightly as bad PR does afect them here and the word does spread, "you rip a player/affiliate off and off to the rogue pit with you" and thats where they stay.

Don't get me wrong SOME do honestly deserve a second chance due to poor casino management but us as smart people can see that this is not the flavor for Grand Prive- for whoever owns the place now.

Them wanting to come back on the ACCRED list just goes to show how affective this place is and bringing them back on board,well- it kind of reflects that anyone could come back on board.

 

[Casinomeister]

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Them wanting to come back on the ACCRED list just goes to show how affective this place is and bringing them back on board,well- it kind of reflects that anyone could come back on board.

Um - I think you might be a little confused here. They were never "Accredited" - they just want out of the rogue pit and I'm making my decision based on the membership's opinion.

 

[BingoT]

It's like that old saying...........
"Once a cheater will always be a cheater."
But if you hear positive things going on I would say Yes.
They have many negative things that come with them at this point in the game.
I say make a poll in 6 to 8 weeks.
It's all on Time Will Tell.
To make it all good I would say (Just from Casinomeister's forum)
Give everyone here a free $25.00 free chip with no WR.with a max cash out of......
And lets see how that goes.
Just a thought if they want to make good with everyone.
~T~

 

[Chips]

They should stay in the pit until ALL affiliates are paid ALL earnings. There are still those out there that have not been payed. Once this is done they should spend another year in the pit before moving to probation. What they did was wrong in too many ways. May they Rot In Peace (or let the rats rip their flesh).

 

[chuchu59]

if they garner 50 % of votes, de-rogue for 3 months and then another poll whereas if they get 70% de-rogue for another 2 years. multi-stage deroguing hehe.

 

[dominique]

It took them years to even consider paying what they owe - and then it is settlements with strings attached, and they really should just pay up.

They breached contract, and they went against their own T&Cs.

Whether a place mistreats affiliates or players is really quite irrelevant.

If you have a neighborhood store that short changes men but not women, would you vouch for their character? Would they be a trustworthy business?

What I don't get is that it would have been an easy thing to just pay up and be on the road to redemption. Just from a business point of view, that would have been the smart thing to do, and it would have started to mend the distrust years ago. We wouldn't even be having this discussion now.

For the most part the amounts owed are not staggering. So I just don't get it - why risk your reputation because you want to nickel and dime the people you owe to? It makes no sense, and the longer it goes on the more people hear about it and the more damage is done to the reputation.

Or maybe they just don't realize that this is the internet, and it is not a place where you can do wrong and simply move to a new place where no one knows you. Even if you change all names and domains etc, people will root you out. Plenty of examples of that here at Casinomeister.

I am all for redemption, really, I am the type who does give out second chances. And even third ones. But I was raised with the motto that if you do something wrong, you fix it.

And that remains the way I look at things in life. There is not one of us who hasn't done something wrong at some time. What counts is to right the wrong. Some things are hard to fix, some may be impossible.

This is easy to fix, so just fix it.

 

[VerboomC]

NO for now...

Are they under new management or is it all the same - same people that scammed ?

I agree also with Dominique why not pay all the affiliates what you owe them? Will get you thumbs up at least!

 

[ilovejesus]

hi

Um - I think you might be a little confused here. They were never "Accredited" - they just want out of the rogue pit and I'm making my decision based on the membership's opinion.

hello meister firstly i would put casinomeister on the accreddited list for letting his forum member to vote