Gambling Federation Malware

bagofmaggots said:
Ad-Aware flags a remembered username as spyware. Nothing to be concerned about,

It is something for Microgaming to be concerned about. If their customers constantly get warnings it's not good. Why not alter the code? If every other developer can store usernames without being flagged it seems unlikely Microgaming has to use a solution that sets off alarms.
 
** most spy-ware finders has the option for you to accept that 'spyware' and 'not ask again' or not - altering the code is EXACTLY what the GFED did... and see what THAT resulted in! maybe there is a solution to it, maybe there is none. the cyber wars will continue for as long as there are 'regulators' - users - and of course abusers! The thing is, let's not classify this lot under the same category of what GFed did. a cooky is a well-known, well recognised 'issue' that has been around since the early days of internet acces - what GFED did was invasive, intrusive and even malicious - they installed a form of 'virus' on your machine and thus restricted you in a personal capacity. a cooky merely tracks your activity to an (mostly acceptable) extend. imo **
 
I think it is more like someone notified Lavasoft that Microgaming casinos collect personal information and Lavasoft put Microgaming in its spyware database. At this point there is nothing MG can do.
 
QUOTE The thing is, let's not classify this lot under the same category of what GFed did. a cooky is a well-known, well recognised 'issue' that has been around since the early days of internet acces - what GFED did was invasive, intrusive and even malicious - they installed a form of 'virus' on your machine and thus restricted you in a personal capacity.UNQUOTE

Exactly - let's not lose focus on the glaring evil that GFED perpetrated over several months on anyone unfortunate enough to download its gaming software.
 
Grandmaster, are you speculating or is that what someone (Microgaming, Ad Aaware) told you?

See, I'm skeptical. If other casino software can store login information without flipping out Ad Aware, why can't Microgaming?

I have lots of cookies on my computer that don't flip out Ad Aware.
 
After reading the other thread about Royal dutch casino I'm starting to think it's possible that this incident may have done a few players a favour.

I think it wouldn't be too bad of an idea for someone to develop a blocklist for scum casinos. Then people could download it and have their casino experience be somewhat safer. Click on a juicy bonus offer and get a "page not found"? It's probably a place you would want to avoid anyway.

Of course the people that would have the common sense to use the blocklist already have the common sense to stay away as it is so unless a trustworthy organization that first time gamblers have heard about distributes something like this, it will be redundant .:)
 
Freudian said:
After reading the other thread about Royal dutch casino I'm starting to think it's possible that this incident may have done a few players a favour.

I think it wouldn't be too bad of an idea for someone to develop a blocklist for scum casinos. Then people could download it and have their casino experience be somewhat safer. Click on a juicy bonus offer and get a "page not found"? It's probably a place you would want to avoid anyway.

Of course the people that would have the common sense to use the blocklist already have the common sense to stay away as it is so unless a trustworthy organization that first time gamblers have heard about distributes something like this, it will be redundant .:)

If someone would get me the IP addresses and domain names of the rogues we'd want on that list, I would be happy to maintain a HOSTS file update to be posted here.
 
You don't need IP addresses just names.
127.0.0.1 www.gamblingfederation.com
127.0.0.1 gamblingfederation.com
is a good start.
 
Annorax said:
If someone would get me the IP addresses and domain names of the rogues we'd want on that list, I would be happy to maintain a HOSTS file update to be posted here.
Browsing the rogue section is a good start as well https://www.casinomeister.com/rogue-casinos/ I would start with Elka System/Oyster Gaming since these are the Russian Spam gang/crooked software folks.
 
GrandMaster said:
You don't need IP addresses just names.
127.0.0.1 www.gamblingfederation.com
127.0.0.1 gamblingfederation.com
is a good start.
If I'm not mistaken, IP address 127.0.0.1 is used as a loopback address. Meaning, it is used by the host computer to send a message back to itself. It is commonly used for troubleshooting and network testing.
 
Exactly. So if you put those lines in your hosts file, you won't be able to access the Gambling Federation website. Hoist by their own petard. :)
 
GrandMaster said:
Exactly. So if you put those lines in your hosts file, you won't be able to access the Gambling Federation website. Hoist by their own petard. :)
Sorry,, I didn't grasp what your other post meant, not had my medication today... :)
 
IGC terminates GFed membership, Fogli resigns

Just in.


IGC Terminates Membership of Gambling Federation
VANCOUVER, British Columbia, March 10, 2005 -- The Interactive Gaming Council today accepted the resignation of Flaviano Fogli from its Board of Directors. The IGC Board has also terminated, by unanimous vote, the membership of the Gambling Federation, a Canadian company for which Fogli serves as chief executive officer.

The Gambling Federation provides services to online casinos, primarily acting as an affiliate network. According to published reports, the company had installed malware (malicious software) in Gambling Federations software that players downloaded to enable play at certain casino sites. When installed, the malware prevented the players from accessing three specific casinos that had been involved in an earlier dispute with Gambling Federation.

Fogli said the malicious code was designed to block access to the three casinos that were involved with a former Gambling Federation employee who Fogli alleged had stolen the email addresses of players at Gambling Federation casinos. The affair was discussed on several message boards devoted to online gambling, and Fogli issued an apology in a posting on a forum at CasinoMeister.com. Fogli exhibited remorse for the retributive action taken, something he conceded was inappropriate.

After an investigation of the situation and an interview of Mr. Fogli, the IGC took the step to terminate Gambling Federations membership and accept Mr. Foglis resignation. It was the determination of the IGC that the actions of Gambling Federation were contrary to the letter and spirit of the IGCs Code of Conduct and contrary to the best interests of the interactive gaming public and industry.

In a letter to Fogli after the IGC Board of Directors met on March 9, Mark Stone, the IGCs chair, thanked Fogli for his openness and candor at the boards meeting. Stone told Fogli that, the Board understands your outrage at the conduct of your competitor. The theft and conversion of property, be it software or email lists, is reprehensible and should not be practiced or condoned by any reputable business. But there are also appropriate means by which to deal with such actions. It is felt that the action by Gambling Federation in this case is not one of those appropriate means.

Stone added that the actions of Gambling Federation jeopardized the integrity of the entire industry. The act hasnt just prevented a competitor from getting a few visitors; rather it has shown the general public one more example of how vulnerable each individuals computer and personal data are to attack and interception.

Rick Smith, executive director of the IGC, said the organization had to take an unequivocal stance when confronted with an action such as that of the Gambling Federation. Causing someone to download intrusive software onto his or her personal computer is totally unacceptable by anyone, under any conditions, Smith said. I am saddened that this was done by an IGC member, and I apologize to our many upstanding members and to the online gaming public.

The Gambling Federation had been a member of the IGC since March 15, 2004. The termination of its membership is effective immediately.


ABOUT THE IGC

Formed in 1996, the IGC is the leading trade association for the international interactive gambling industry with its membership operating or supplying services to most of the reputable interactive sites on the World Wide Web. Based in Vancouver, Canada, the IGC champions fair and honest interactive gambling environments. To help parents protect their children, IGC members are encouraged to participate in the self-labeling system of the Internet Content Rating Association. The IGC has developed a Code of Conduct for members, and a program called Helping Hand to assist problem gamblers.
 
** Well what do you know? Thanks SpearMaster for getting this one out in record time! i would have to say that if the outcome was anything other than this there would have been havoc! i think this issue divided the industry more and spurred further mistrust (more than ever)between players and casinos. Already players doubt certain information from casinos, and this will have widespread implications for ALL online casinos. Everyone (including myself) will be a lot more careful and doubtful about downloading anything... and it gives the 'protection software' companies more ammo to use against the casinos. What a mess. I am just very happy to see that this was not presented with a 'but' or a 'if'. it is clean cut. No misinterpretations of any sort. it at least show that IGC take the commitment of their members seriously! (in this case at least! ) **
 
Kudos to IGC for making the right moves here and putting their members on notice that this sort of bad casino practice will not be tolerated. It took them a little while to get there, but they made the right decisions in the end.

Perhaps some good can come out of this disgraceful episode after all.
 
Well, I have to say I'm surprised. I thought they'd all just lie low and hope the dust settled.

Thumbs up to the IGC for doing the right thing, and for proving an old cynic wrong. Good move.

Of course, the acid test is the portal stance. If Gambling Federation loses none of it's portal advertising outlets, good industry moves notwithstanding there won't be too much to shout about. Hopefully a few banners will now start to come down as affiliates start taking note.
 
I believe kudos are due to eCOGRA, too - they were the first of any industry organisation to come out unequivocally and very publicly and condemn this activity for what it was.

That's a significant departure from the old "all chums together and circle the wagons for the *good* of the industry" attitude, and I hope we see more of it to keep everyone on their toes.
 
** I have one last question: "What is GFED going to do about this whole lot? We now have eCogra saying that they won't have this happen, we have IGC saying "GET OUT". We have CAP saying that they won't stand for it. NOW I want to know... GFED - what do YOU have to say (in conclusion) to this lot. What are your intensions from here on? Do you still have a CEO? Just wondering**
 
What does it matter what they do? They'll carry on as before, there's nothing else they can or would do. They've already "apologized" and offered the lame "data base theft" excuse. I expect nothing more from them.

What matters is the response from the industry as a whole - organizations, advertisers, etc etc - which to date has been largely, if not totally, positive.
 
**Caruso, like it or not, they are still a part of this industry, and although that sorry excuse for an explanation was their FIRST attempt to put out fires, it does not let THEM off the hook! There should be INTERNAL implications for this - Should they not at least come out and state their own stance on the situation too. (Apart and seperate from the man himself? OR IS HE GFED?) I care what THEY say and do as they still have a responsibility towards their aff webmasters!(Who's caugth in a catch 22 - They earn a income from this so they cannot stop the marketing, but they want to do the 'right' thing too....)

So far only three players in the whole industry has given their views on this... which imo is not enough! BuT as this is a business, it is also like a chess game. You move, I move, you move. Right now, they are a few moves behind! Is there anything they can say and do to make pple 'trust' them again? Is there anythign they can say and do to start repairing the damage? YOU might not care about this, but I do. Kicking them off prominent 'trusted' groups is one thing - what are THEY going to do to protect aff partners in future from this kind of stupidity? is all I am asking*
 
Petunia said:
I care what THEY say and do as they still have a responsibility towards their aff webmasters!(Who's caugth in a catch 22 - They earn a income from this so they cannot stop the marketing, but they want to do the 'right' thing too....)

Only affiliates who's only consideration is money are in a catch 22. The ones that give a sh*t about the players are not - it's clear what to do.
 
Gambling Federation FINALLY responds

This is the statement released by Gambling Federation regarding the MALWARE situation and their actions:

Gambling Federation is pleased that the IGC board supports the idea that theft and conversion of property is a reprehensible act. Unfortunately when IGC informed that there are appropriate means to deal with such cases, they failed to indicate what these means were.

Does IGC consider legally pursuing the perpetrator(s) of theft and conversion of property as appropriate means? Considering the offshore presence of the industry and considering that transfers of property do not, for the most part, leave a physical address, it is safe to say that legal actions are not effective and therefore not appropriate to solve this issue.

If an answer could be given, in a reasonable time frame, this might help to define a code of conduct for the entire industry, in the unfortunate event that an operator or software house is one day victim of theft and/or conversion of property.

If no answer is provided, it would appear that the only appropriate solution would be no action at all. If no action is the only possible answer to theft and conversion of property, then with this decision IGC is in reality, indirectly and unwillingly leaving it wide open to the ones that perpetuate theft and conversion of property and leaving its members without any possible protection.

This might discourage other operators or software houses from applying for an IGC membership.

Considering the delicacy of this issue, it is understandable if IGC would like to take the necessary time to answer. As for, Gambling Federations membership fee, it is strongly suggested that IGC donate the concerned sum to a charity organization of their choice.

Statement from Flaviano - CEO of Gambling Federation
Talia Paschini, Gambling Federation PR Manager
 
Mr. FOGLI has, by issuing this statement demonstrated once again that his capability in executive judgement is open to question, imv.

To further insult those who feel strongly about his actions in the malware affair by figuratively stamping his feet over the IGC decision whilst blithely ignoring the main reason for his companys hassles is ill-advised and arrogant to say the least.

Face the facts, FOGLI - you were the man in charge and the responsibility for this crisis is yours. Your company dumped unwanted and malicious software on the computers of probably hundreds if not thousands of unknowing players.

The issue here is not your lame justification for doing that - it is the fact that you did it, you were caught doing it, you admitted doing it and you paid a fairly light penalty for doing it.

I would suggest that you consider yourself fortunate to have escaped so lightly and show a bit more humility and contrition and less focus on this alleged database theft you are using in your attempts to ameliorate the gravity of this offence.
 
jetset said:
I would suggest that you consider yourself fortunate to have escaped so lightly and show a bit more humility and contrition and less focus on this alleged database theft you are using in your attempts to ameliorate the gravity of this offence.


*Very very fortuanate indeed!!! Jetset, you have a way with words, i guess it is because you make practical comments, rather than getting into an emotional tug-of-war! I agree with what you said, and I think that the Man himself issues quite the lame

"If an answer could be given, in a reasonable time frame, this might help to define a code of conduct for the entire industry, in the unfortunate event that an operator or software house is one day victim of theft and/or conversion of property" - IMHO I think that it is up to operating house to sort that problem out. It was in INTERNAL problem, and you saught an "external" solution to this! There are ways of dealing with staff leaving and protecting yourself, THIS however was not the way!
Although there are governing bodies and regulators, everyone still has a personal responsibility towards themselves, their business and their customers. Trying to eliminate the oposition is just not IT! (Even Bill Gates could not exactly get away with that one!)


I recommend: "Dilbert's book on business ethics" *grin* **
 
unicorn40 said:
This is the statement released by Gambling Federation regarding the MALWARE situation and their actions

No it isn't. This is nothing whatsoever to do with the malware incident. This is Gambling Federation continuing with this extraordinary line of painting themselves as the "victim" in all this, victim of some alleged and unproven crime of "data base theft". If there WERE any ex-employee misdoings behind it all it would change nothing. As it is, all this is hot air - one is supposed to accept "on oath" the justifications of a man who downloaded malicious software on his customers computers?

Jetset said:
I would suggest that you consider yourself fortunate to have escaped so lightly

Lightly? The "escape" is only as light as it's allowed to be. The matter has received big publicity and affiliates will have reconsidered and be reconsidering their affiliate relationships, which is going cut into Fogli's profits.

As long as noone succumbs to the idea that they've "got off" and forget the matter, I don't think they're going to escape from this one jot.

Any word from the iGGBA?
 
Flaviano has reached a new low. After all the pompous gall previously shown by G-Fed, I suppose I should not be shocked by this latest statement.

Initially, Flaviano blamed an unnamed rogue ex-employee for stealing their database, thus causing the whole chain of events. Here in this latest statement, he is essentially pointing the finger at the IGC for not creating a Code of Conduct. At what point does Flaviano accept responsibility?

As to this Code of Conduct, indeed, one exists with the IGC. Granted, this Code of Conduct does not pointedly state, "Applying malware to innocent victims as a vengeful tactic is unacceptable," does it really NEED to?

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.


Again, if we are to believe Flaviano's version of stolen property, it was G-Fed's responsibility in the FIRST PLACE to protect this property! I have yet to see G-Fed address this very issue. There has been no email sent to players, informing them that A) their information has been compromised and B) that their computers have been compromised (with instructions on how to remove the malware.

Flaviano--quit trying to shift the blame for what G-Fed is responsible for. If indeed any of this concocted story is true, then no doubt, Royal Dutch or whoever is involved will get caught out.

Just worry about yourself for the time being. It seems to me that you have far more than enough on your plate to deal with, before worrying about others.
 
greedygirl said:
...it was G-Fed's responsibility in the FIRST PLACE to protect this property! I have yet to see G-Fed address this very issue. There has been no email sent to players, informing them that A) their information has been compromised and B) that their computers have been compromised (with instructions on how to remove the malware.
This is a main point. It would have been a totally different situation if GFed would have acted responsibly toward their clients and players by contacting everyone in their database that the database had been compromised. I don't know (only GFed and Royal Dutch do) if this database included more than email addresses. Was it passwords, user names, home addresses, etc.? What? :what: Everyone is so damn worried about covering their asses or looking bad, and the players are treated like crap. What an industry!

Choosing the "vengeance" route by blocking the evil websites in question is amateurish and disgraceful. It shows a blatant lack of respect toward their players AND affiliates - kudos for the CAP for stepping up to the plate on this. Any webmaster still affiliated with GFed should take a moment to evaluate their standards and ethics. Are they (the affiliates) willing to continue supporting a company that disregards player privacy?
 
Last edited:
Just a footnote: I don't want to imply that affiliates new about this before it was made public. I also want to mention that unless GFed has contacted all of their affiliates, there may be ones out there still pushing the malware version.

I also want to convey my sympathies to all of the loyal hardworking GFed employees that had no idea that this was going on and have gotten caught in the crossfire. They were duped as badly as the unknowing player. What a shame.
 
I am not aware of GFED contacting any affiliates except for the posts made at CAP and GPWA which are identical to those made on player boards.

Flaviano's last statement is totally illogical.

How does installing trojans on player's computers deter anyone from stealing email addresses?

How does it punish the thief?

It makes no sense at all.
 
greedygirl said:
Flaviano has reached a new low. After all the pompous gall previously shown by G-Fed, I suppose I should not be shocked by this latest statement.

Initially, Flaviano blamed an unnamed rogue ex-employee for stealing their database, thus causing the whole chain of events. Here in this latest statement, he is essentially pointing the finger at the IGC for not creating a Code of Conduct. At what point does Flaviano accept responsibility?

As to this Code of Conduct, indeed, one exists with the IGC. Granted, this Code of Conduct does not pointedly state, "Applying malware to innocent victims as a vengeful tactic is unacceptable," does it really NEED to?

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.


Again, if we are to believe Flaviano's version of stolen property, it was G-Fed's responsibility in the FIRST PLACE to protect this property! I have yet to see G-Fed address this very issue. There has been no email sent to players, informing them that A) their information has been compromised and B) that their computers have been compromised (with instructions on how to remove the malware.

Flaviano--quit trying to shift the blame for what G-Fed is responsible for. If indeed any of this concocted story is true, then no doubt, Royal Dutch or whoever is involved will get caught out.

Just worry about yourself for the time being. It seems to me that you have far more than enough on your plate to deal with, before worrying about others.

Damned good post, Greedygirl!
 
dominique said:
I am not aware of GFED contacting any affiliates except for the posts made at CAP and GPWA which are identical to those made on player boards.
A sad state of affairs. I'm sure they will be getting an earful at the CAC in Amsterdam. Their affiliates deserve better. They need to know what's up. Not all of them follow what's going on the message boards.

And I'm sure sooner or later there will be a GFed lynch mob going after these affiliates, and I'd hate to see these guys taken by surprise getting ragged on because they are providing revenue for GFed. Some affiliates may solely rely on GFed - and will be finding themselves in not a good situation for having all their eggs in one basket.

At the very least, they need to be prepared for outspoken irritated players. GFed should at least give them a heads up.

But maybe they don't feel this is necessary.
dominique said:
How does installing trojans on player's computers deter anyone from stealing email addresses?

Yeah, it is a little mixed up. I honestly feel that GFed should have looked for some advice before coming out with their recent statement (which I found difficult to read - some of those paragraphs made my brain hurt). It could have been worded a bit better.

I liked the donation request though - maybe there is a charitable organization that deals with business ethics.
 
At almost every stage, and at every level GFED's handling of this crisis has been abysmal imo. That does not appear to be changing....
 
That is encouraging news because it reinforces the very strong signal to everyone out there that this nonsense will not be tolerated. Good for you, GPWA!

Has an official statement been released?
 
Last edited:
Here is the statement as posted on GPWA

GAMBLING FEDERATION RESIGNS MEMBERSHIP FROM GPWA

Glen Burnie, Maryland March 17, 2005

In a statement today, sent to John E, and Marlene Derossett, owners of Gambling Portal Webmasters Association,
You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.
, Talia Paschini, Public Relations Manager for Gambling Federation,
You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.
, announced the resignation of Gambling Federation from membership of the Gambling Portal Webmasters Association, effective immediately.

Gambling Federation has been in partnership with GPWA for sometime now, and its sad to see them go, especially under these circumstances stated John. Gambling Federation has taken steps to correct the situation, and I hope that we can once again work together soon.

The situation being spoken of, involves the altering of the hosts file, which resides in the root directory of ones computer. The Hosts file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. This file is loaded into memory at startup, then Windows checks the Hosts file before it queries any DNS servers, which enables it to override addresses in the DNS. This prevents access to the listed sites by redirecting any connection attempts back to the local machine. What they had hoped to achieve, was to prevent the spamming of their clients from certain other places, who allegedly had possession of the players database, which was stolen from Gambling Federation some time ago. You can use a HOSTS file to block ads, banners, cookies, web bugs, and even most hijackers.

During talks, in which GPWA imposed sanctions upon Gambling Federation, who readily accepted these sanctions, it was agreed that Gambling Federation would pay a fine in the amount of $5,000.00 to Gamblers Anonymous. That agreement was Reached on March 14, 2005, and Gambling Federation decided today, that they would also act on a self imposed sanction of resigning membership.

Part of the statement from Ms. Paschini read: We are voluntarily stepping out of GPWA forums so that GPWA can go back to normal. We think you have had enough stress and emails so far by the so called "malware" situation. Everything has been explained and told about this issue, there is nothing more left to say. We made an error, we are remorseful, and we repaired it. You recognized this in us and we are grateful.

Gambling Federation has in fact, always been responsive to queries and requests in the past, and I have no doubt that they will work diligently to set things right and regain the trust that they once had and worked hard for from players and affiliates alike. I for one, look forward to the day when this happens, and we can once again work together as we have in the past. Stated John Derossett
 
spearmaster said:
Part of the statement from Ms. Paschini read: We are voluntarily stepping out of GPWA forums so that GPWA can go back to normal. We think you have had enough stress and emails so far by the so called "malware" situation. Everything has been explained and told about this issue, there is nothing more left to say. We made an error, we are remorseful, and we repaired it. You recognized this in us and we are grateful.


** So called... what else are we meant to call it? Well, I'd have to say, I for one was happy to see this Press Release... however, the 'error' has been repaird, but I think it will take a while for the damage to recover! just my opinion**
 
We made an error, we are remorseful, and we repaired it.

Bull$hit.

Until G-Fed contacts each and every single player, advising that A) their personal information has been compromised and B) that their computers have been compromised (and further, instructions on removing the malware), they haven't repaired anything.

The players MUST come first, and apparently, G-Fed is either too ignorant, too arrogant or too greedy to understand this. I'm guessing it's a combination of all three.

And I agree, Petunia--the utter notion that this could be deemed a "so-called 'malware' situation" is just adding salt on an already open wound. Were they to be truly "remorseful," why on earth would they use the words, "so-called?"

Um...perhaps because they're NOT truly remorseful??? :barf:
 
My 1 & 1/2 cents

Everyone seems to be forgetting the most important element of this wonderful change in the Gfed software. Picture this example :

Joe Bloggs signs up with Gfed before the alleged database theft occurs
Joe Bloggs details are on this database when it is alledgedly stolen
Gfed make the change to their install file which changes the users hosts file
Joe Bloggs attempts to go to www.royaldutchcasino.com
He gets there, can download and can play

Why? Because he installed Gfed before the change. 90% of players (probably more) on that database, are not affected either, for the same reason.

This "fix" of Gfed's only affects new players, or existing players who re-install their software by downloading it again. If they re-installed
using the same install file they originally used, they wont be affected.

Now taking the stand that the IGC is in some way responsible for helping them with their alleged data theft is even more of a joke. What they should
have done is have the "thief" arrested for theft of confidential company information, which other operators have done in the past.

More importantly, why did they not have the checks and controls in place to ensure that the data could not be stolen in the first place?

The Truth of it is :

Gfed gets their data stolen (supposedly) (1 wrong)
Gfed change their install to "fix" the HOSTS file (2 wrongs)
GFED dont tell their clients that the clients data has been purloined (3 wrongs)
GFED bitch & moan when the IGC kicks them out for breaking the IGC T&C's (4 wrongs)
GFED ask the IGC to give their membership money to charity (nice, but
trying to detract from the truth) (5 wrongs)
GFED ignore requests for more info about the file change, and concentrate on the data theft that may or may not have happened (6 wrongs)

Ok, maybe I was brought up differently, but i have lived in those offshore locations, and am fairly clued up on how the law works there, and
elsewhere. I was also taught that 2 wrongs dont make a right. But maybe, for Mr Fogli, there is some algorithm that can prove that 5 or more wrongs
can make a right, if you have been wronged first. (if so, please send it to me)

Meister, as a large portal owner with considerable influence over both users and operators, and a supplier of large quantities of very necessary
information on the industry, can we ask you to maybe set up a "basic" security page, that provides users with easy to use info on securing their
machines.

For Security newbies, I recommend the use of the following software to make your lives easier :

Spybot Search & Destroy (from www.safer-networking.org)
AD AWARE (from www.lavasoft.de)
Antivirus (there are lots out there, I use Norton & MCafee)
CWSHREDDER (for coolwebsearch adware, from www.merijn.org/downloads.html)
Get a firewall, but make sure it secures both incoming & outgoing communication. I use Tiny & Norton.

For more advanced users :
Winpatrol (www.winpatrol.com) (and use the lock hosts file option)
Hijackthis (advanced users only) (from www.merijn.org/downloads.html)
NTFILMON, REGMON etc (from www.sysinternals.com give you a nice view of what is happening on your machine)

For users who dont want to put all the extra software on their machine, a
simple fix to secure your hosts file is the following :
Find it on your pc (C:\WINNT\system32\drivers\etc OR
C:\Windows\system32\drivers\etc)
You need to make sure you can view Hidden files & folders in windows, and also that the "hide protected operating system files" is disabled (in
Folder Options, view)
Right click on the file, select properties
On The general tab, at the bottom, is an option to set the file to "Read Only". Make sure it is ticked, and click ok.

Hope it helps.
 
Good post, Fromme. :thumbsup:

This "fix" of Gfed's only affects new players, or existing players who re-install their software by downloading it again. If they re-installed

The trouble is that unless G-Fed becomes significantly pro-active (and honest) by advising those who've downloaded the software, the majority of these players will continue to have the malware loaded on their computers.

And of course, ALL G-Fed players should be made aware that their personal information has been compromised. The only GOOD reason I can see for not doing so, is if G-Fed has been lying all along, using the "stolen database" bit as an excuse for their actions.
 
**Hey 4Free - you have a few valid points - it made my head hurt all over, but valid none the less.

Greedy Girl - I agree with you too. How many of the players still has the 'faulted' downloads running, and are not quite aware of the whole situation and it's effects? I am very curious about what the 'correction' was that GFed was referring to. I agree, everyone on the current database needs to be made aware of this, and encourage to download the 'clean' version. I guess the statement says "I don't have to explain myself any further" - that is the bottem line of what I got out of it! **
 
I want to look at some of the positives that have transpired in relation to this mess.

I am very pleased to hear about GFED's departure from GPWA, I just knew the folks at GPWA were concerned about this and I recently defended them elsewhere in relation to this situation. John and Marlene have been very good for the GPWA I think. :)

The $5000 donation is a good thing under any circumstances, as is the voluntary withdrawal of GFED.

eCOGRA, the IGC, CAP and the GPWA have come through and acted honorably and done the right thing.

What's missing?

I think GFED needs to contact all their players and affiliates directly (as Bryan stated, not all of them read message boards) and explain what happened and, in the case of players, help fix the malware situation on the individually affected computers.

Sometimes one needs to stand back and look at the positive things that can come from a bad situation - and in this case the industry in general has acted responsibly and unified. I am very pleased to see this, and I sincerely hope GFED will bring this situation to it's logical conclusion by contacting all affected parties directly.
 
Last edited:
fromme4free said:
Why? Because he installed Gfed before the change. 90% of players (probably more) on that database, are not affected either, for the same reason.

This "fix" of Gfed's only affects new players, or existing players who re-install their software by downloading it again. If they re-installed
using the same install file they originally used, they wont be affected.

My understanding of it is that each time you login to G-fed it automatically updates, and these changes are being made in that. So as long as you logged in after they changed this host file you will have been affected.

BTW Excellent point Greedy Girl about them not even informing the players of the breach of data etc. This is a key issue if they really do want to put things right.
 
Everyone seems to think the "time frame" is recent - that G-Fed only did this recently.

The whole trouble with this premise is that I have already proven beyond a doubt, on MY computer, with a screenshot provided to GPWA, that G-Fed was modifying the hosts file as far back as November 2003. And at the time, Royal Dutch was NOT one of those being blocked.

To put it bluntly, you are only hearing what G-Fed wants you to hear.
 
Petunia said:
** So called... what else are we meant to call it? Well, I'd have to say, I for one was happy to see this Press Release... however, the 'error' has been repaird, but I think it will take a while for the damage to recover! just my opinion**

The "so-called" bit really got up my nose as well - what sort of "remorse" is this, as GG says it is rubbing salt into an open wound. These guys certainly have a strange way of doing their PR, but I guess it is a good distraction from the main event here.

My understanding is that this nasty little trojan of GFED's has been around for at least several months - in fact I saw a reference somewhere recently to it being found on downloads going back over six months.

That means that those here who are demanding more direct and remedial action from GFED are right to do so i.m.o.

GFED's "we've done everything so let's just let this go away now" doesn't cut it under these circumstances.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Accredited Casinos

Read about our rating system and how it's done.
Back
Top