Do you buy super bonuses?

[satchnz]

With Pragmatic Play now introducing 500+ times your stake super bonus buys and NoLimit City with super bonus buys in the 1000’s+ times your stake, I’m curious who (outside of streamers) actually buy these things? One super bonus can cost anywhere between two to twelve times my normal deposit amount (playing minimum stake) so I don’t go anywhere near them.

They must be reasonably popular given more and more games feature super bonus buys but surely out of the reach (and probably desire) of the average player.

Are you a super bonus buyer? If so, how often and at what base stake?

 

[conker]

I think they are predatory and only perpetuate problem gambling. So, no.

 

[justdoit]

no chance I dont even play games with 50X extra charge, theey just milking gamblers money

 

[jasonuk]

All of these super bonuses are designed for the monopoly money streamer crowd - there might be a case if you could super-buy at lower stakes (e.g. £5 for a 1p effective stake, with some stochastic rounding on the final win to round up or down the fractions) but when you could be talking £50, £100, £200 or more for one... that's your entire session (or 2, 3, 4 sessions...) in a one minute bonus round.

Saying that, I did buy one when WH were illegally offering them - one of the "Gold" series slots by Elk. It didn't give me the super upgrade once, so my £100 bonus played like a £20 bonus and paid £16...

Even though I got refunded months later, that was more than enough to steer clear!

 

[geordiecolin]

Every now and then I go crazy and allow myself a gamble on the shit or bust wheel on Extra Chilli but bonus buying for me takes all of the fun out of playing slots.
Is buying bonuses really playing slots?

 

[Jono777]

Even IF we could do them in the UK and IF I had 100x my existing budget, I would not touch them, like EVER! lol.

I don't watch streams really but I've seen enough bandit videos ending in disappointment to educate me not to bother.

They were introduced for GREED and a faster way of ripping us off, nothing more although they dress it up as not having to wait for a bonus or jumping straight into the action.

I partially blame the bonus buys for knackering the UK gaming experience. As Geordie asks above, I don't feel that it is. Slotting is about the grind and the base hits whilst waiting for a natural bonus, or it should be anyway.

 

[Kroffe]

Never bought a super bonus, really the only game i sometimes buy bonuses on is White rabbit, but that is only after ive had a good hit on something else.
Even the losing ones often give back like 50-60% of the buy cost and the bonus takes a while to play out.
Still never had a 500x+ bonus on it, one day maybe.

 

[Jono777]

Never bought a super bonus, really the only game i sometimes buy bonuses on is White rabbit, but that is only after ive had a good hit on something else.
Even the losing ones often give back like 50-60% of the buy cost and the bonus takes a while to play out.
Still never had a 500x+ bonus on it, one day maybe.

Funnily enough, This is the only game (when we could in UK) I brought on for pretty much the same reason.

Think the best I managed was about £40 and the worst about £5.

I did used to purchase the Extra Chilli ones too, however only once the in game coins had brought the cost down to 15-20x

Never did understand why VS where I play removed these coins, they're not a BB and AFAIK not against and regulations. The removal only achieved one thing in that it stopped me playing it.

I guess a "free feature" was too costly for them

 

[Avernite]

When I've been massively up I've brought the one at minimum stake. Returned about half.

 

[BillyGoldblum]

I was going to one day until I turned around and saw my wife giving me one hell of an evil eye so i didnt dare. And if you all know who my wife is you will understand my fear

Porn I get a pass. Getting drunk the odd time and passing out naked in the backyard I get a pass...spending this much money on a bonus buy...no pass..instant death.

She loves me fellas

 

[Reelsoffun]

Funnily enough, This is the only game (when we could in UK) I brought on for pretty much the same reason.

Think the best I managed was about £40 and the worst about £5.

I did used to purchase the Extra Chilli ones too, however only once the in game coins had brought the cost down to 15-20x

Never did understand why VS where I play removed these coins, they're not a BB and AFAIK not against and regulations. The removal only achieved one thing in that it stopped me playing it.

I guess a "free feature" was too costly for them

Yeah @Mr Wild you said you would look into that for us to put the version with coins back ( feature drop ) but it’s still not, even tho several other UK facing casinos have it. I too have drastically cut down my chilli play due to that.

You have white rabbit with the coins still so it makes no sense to have removed chilli, unless it was accidental, which was why you said you was looking into it but never got back to us / me. Hopefully it just slipped ya mind and forgot and we can get it back

 

[satchnz]

All of these super bonuses are designed for the monopoly money streamer crowd - there might be a case if you could super-buy at lower stakes (e.g. £5 for a 1p effective stake, with some stochastic rounding on the final win to round up or down the fractions) but when you could be talking £50, £100, £200 or more for one... that's your entire session (or 2, 3, 4 sessions...) in a one minute bonus round.

Saying that, I did buy one when WH were illegally offering them - one of the "Gold" series slots by Elk. It didn't give me the super upgrade once, so my £100 bonus played like a £20 bonus and paid £16...

Even though I got refunded months later, that was more than enough to steer clear!

Which brings me to my second question - do providers make any real money from building these bonuses if only the fake money streamers play them? Maybe they are purely there for marketing purposes to get us real players to try the game (non super bonuses and all-or-nothing spins etc)?

 

[jasonuk]

Which brings me to my second question - do providers make any real money from building these bonuses if only the fake money streamers play them? Maybe they are purely there for marketing purposes to get us real players to try the game (non super bonuses and all-or-nothing spins etc)?

So splitting this into two parts...


Regarding the monopoly money streamers themselves - it'll depend on the deal between operator and provider, by default you would expect the provider cut to still be due (e.g. 0.5% of wagers).

The most curious part of the early Drake x Fake x Stake streams wasn't his complete disinterest in "$500k+" roulette spins, or even the comical overreaction when he "won $10m"... but when Pragmatic Live went down. He started scrambling, and even when he played Evolution for a couple of minutes he was stalling and constantly checking if Pragmatic had come back up.

To me, that suggests there's some kind of deal in place - and prefer to spend a few hundred a spin with Pragmatic, then a few thousand a spin with Evolution... because that cost is real (and likely the only part).



Regarding the wider ecosystem - you can see how much certain providers (Pragmatic, Relax, Push, NLC etc) are pumping effort into the monopoly money streamers, to build "mindshare" with audiences that tend to skew younger.

So not only are they pushing their brand ahead of others, but then they offer you a solution to the problem they caused where the base game is dull as dishwater, so much so that you want to skip that grind and buy the bonus instead - a trait introduced by predatory microtransactions in video games, and borrowed back by the gambling industry.

I enjoyed some of the early offerings from NLC, Relax and Push, but the later streamer slot offerings are dire. There will be a strong correlation between those that can bonus buy, and those that play those games... and that'll tell you what they are chasing! The outcome of which is entirely predictable...

 

[justdoit]

best gambling time was from 2003 till 2015, then providers start to get greedy they fk up all gambling industry, my first time online gambling was on casino 888 in 1998 you had like rooms with diffrent slots or card games

 

[conker]

best gambling time was from 2003 till 2015, then providers start to get greedy they fk up all gambling industry, my first time online gambling was on casino 888 in 1998 you had like rooms with diffrent slots or card games

The good old days...

Never shall they return.

 

[satchnz]

best gambling time was from 2003 till 2015, then providers start to get greedy they fk up all gambling industry, my first time online gambling was on casino 888 in 1998 you had like rooms with diffrent slots or card games

I didn’t start gambling online until 2020 and even then things were a lot better than now. Bonus buys, super bonuses, and extra bets are common things these days and they have screwed online slot play.

 

[zeekz77]

We can't buy them anymore in the UK, but when I wanted a quick session before they got removed, I loved to buy them. I find spinning quite boring, especially with our strict rules (no autoplay, long waits between spins, no fast spin)