Corona virus - Covid 19 discussion

[dionysus]

To me, personally, if the truckers rolled through, stopped, organized a peaceful protest, hit the next community, etc, rolled home. Fantastic.
'We arent leaving until we get what we want, and in doing so, we will shut down the city infrastructure and impede the daily running of the city, both sides of the border', not so much.

I mean, if we shooting down people in the streets and dragging them off to windowless cells, and the population stood up, ok, a different kettle of fish.

Again, we're talking about a small, small portion of outlyers

 

[dionysus]

But Dio, I mentioned freedom of speech, it was you who said that freedom of speech should be allowed if you want to live in a cave, doesn't consider the whole of society, is indecent and creates platforms for hate. All very different to what I would call freedom of speech.

Now you're pretty much suggesting that I want the N-word to be allowed.

Another discussion between us I have zero interest in continuing, perhaps that's a win on your part....enjoy your day!

I'm saying, like those because of constitutuinal rights, be it guns or speech, take it to mean ABSOLUTE.; I can tell you daily, I come across enough who dont even understand their own legally understood version of freedom of speech.
I'm not suggesting YOU think all words are appropriate. There are those as DO.
Freedom of expression here, isnt much different than freedom of speech...taken as it's intended.

 

[dionysus]

Anyway, no matter how you slice it, it is a politicized debate....not even because people within one country views things differently, but also, different COUNTRIES due to culture, history or mind-set view things differently.
I can tell you, how it's played out in the media (and viewd) in Canada, the states and the UK is quite different.

 

[goatwack]

Obviously just looking from the outside in, these protests seem quite a big deal, I don't know how overblown or understated the selective reporting is, or isn't.

As to their effect, whilst disruptive, Canada's rather a big place, I'm not versed in how impactful this all is, other than seeing it as a catalyst for protecting individual rights and yes, freedoms.

Hell, even the French are following suit, and they're surrender monkeys

 

[dionysus]

lol, and that doesnt even address where you lie on a political spectrum

 

[dionysus]

Obviously just looking from the outside in, these protests seem quite a big deal, I don't know how overblown or understated the selective reporting is, or isn't.

As to their effect, whilst disruptive, Canada's rather a big place, I'm not versed in how impactful this all is, other than seeing it as a catalyst for protecting individual rights and yes, freedoms.

Hell, even the French are following suit, and they're surrender monkeys

Well, I mean, currently, police are standing there, waiting for, and while some, dismantle.
It isnt tear gas and rubber bullets in the streets.
I think it's big news, because it's unique and big news for us.
And dont kid yourself, there's isnt a bandwagon for political parties elsewhere to jump on.

I'm out and about, minimum 4 walks a day with the puppers, chatting neighbours, online, at friends, family, errands...and do you know how often 'convoy' is uttered in conversation? Like...0 times

Granted, in major cities where the trucks roll through, well, yeah, theyre directly impacted.
It's big...and...it isnt

 

[bamberfishcake]

We also disagree on that

Do people in Canada really have a different mentality from those in the UK or the USA? Can you elaborate as to how? Let's not open up that can of worms eh

People are people, sure, stereotypes exist, but having a preconceived idea about people is a barrier to effective communication and influences your opinion and potential outcome of a situation.

 

[Kroffe]

It's big...and...it isnt

Common problem.

 

[dionysus]

Common problem.

well, I got small man hands and 13 shoes, so I hear ya

 

[slotplayer]

Freedom is on the March

 

[Steviedoo]

This is how Canadians protest. Hot tub anyone? Smack dab in the middle of the protests in Ottawa.

 

[Jono777]

We also disagree on that

Do people in Canada really have a different mentality from those in the UK or the USA? Can you elaborate as to how? Let's not open up that can of worms eh

People are people, sure, stereotypes exist, but having a preconceived idea about people is a barrier to effective communication and influences your opinion and potential outcome of a situation.

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I defo know it, honest I do.... anyhow now it is really bugging me as it just won't come to mind.....

What film is that pic from?

 

[paul7388]

I defo know it, honest I do.... anyhow now it is really bugging me as it just won't come to mind.....

What film is that pic from?

Is it not from Total Recall.

 

[Kroffe]

I defo know it, honest I do.... anyhow now it is really bugging me as it just won't come to mind.....

What film is that pic from?

I can totally relate to this.
You see an image from a movie and you just know you know where its from, but still cant recall the name of the movie.

 

[bamberfishcake]

I defo know it, honest I do.... anyhow now it is really bugging me as it just won't come to mind.....

What film is that pic from?

Paul has it right, its total recall

 

[Kroffe]

This is how Canadians protest. Hot tub anyone? Smack dab in the middle of the protests in Ottawa.

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Do they stream on twitch?
Its not so easy to see due to the steam, but i think i see a beaver.

 

[paul7388]

I can totally relate to this.
You see an image from a movie and you just know you know where its from, but still cant recall the name of the movie.

Oh nice of you to give him a cryptic clue that had the answer hidden in it.

Sorry i gave the answer but lets face it it is Jon. He would have looked at your post and just went totally agree. Would never have found the answer in it lol,

 

[bamberfishcake]

Oh nice of you to give him a cryptic clue that had the answer hidden in it.

Sorry i gave the answer but lets face it it is Jon. He would have looked at your post and just went totally agree. Would never have found the answer in it lol,

Well spotted, I didnt clock that one

 

[geordiecolin]

Freedom is on the March

Where did she come from?

 

[bamberfishcake]

Where did she come from?

Not many speeches send a chill down my spine but that was inspirational. Besides the religious aspect, I pretty much agree with all that she is saying.

What she said about not teaching kids to think for themselves kind of rings true. My 8 yr old watches Newsround three days a week at school and I fail to see any benefit other than conditioning them to get sucked into media propaganda. They sit them on Chromebooks with multiple-choice questions that allow you to pick again if you get it wrong - again, I fail to see how that is an effective method of teaching, getting things wrong is how we learn.

I agree we are in a war and I wish I knew enough about UK law to know an angle to take to fight the oppression. Love what she said about 'each one, reach one, teach one'.

Also agree we cannot take this lying down. It's a shame that so many of us seem content in a fractured society.

 

[Jono777]

Oh nice of you to give him a cryptic clue that had the answer hidden in it.

Sorry i gave the answer but lets face it it is Jon. He would have looked at your post and just went totally agree. Would never have found the answer in it lol,

Hmmm Paul, nice to see you still hold me in such high esteem

Ps: You are also spot on, straight over my head, as with most things

Hard to believe for someone so intelligent I can be so dumb

 

[Jono777]

Well spotted, I didnt clock that one

Phew! - Not alone as I thought

 

[slotplayer]

Where did she come from?

Never heard of her, but Google says she is a Civil Rights attorney which explains her knowledge of the constitution.
She is excellent though.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Phew! - Not alone as I thought

To be honest, I never expected so much wit from @Kroffe , his comments are usually so crass and of below-average intelligence he caught me off guard

 

[Kroffe]

his comments are usually so crass and of below-average intelligence