Baptism by Fire - failed Casino Kings undergo Baptism by Fire

[Webzcas]

Casino Kings are the latest online casino to undergo the Baptism by Fire process here on Casinomeister, to see if they have what it takes to become accredited. You can check out our Casino Kings review and find out all about them.

Any questions, be sure to ask their rep on the forum, @emily3434

Casino King's Baptism by Fire lasts 60 days and starts now!

 

[shady]

Operated by ProgressPlay Limited and has over 150 sister sites?

I was going to test the waters but I must have tried one of their many other sites a long time ago.

 

[SYPlayer95]

Operated by ProgressPlay Limited and has over 150 sister sites?

I was going to test the waters but I must have tried one of their many other sites a long time ago.

Agreed. Wouldn't bother. Go have a look on trustpilot. Tells you everything you need to know.

 

[lockinlove]

The welcome bonus to try it out is terrible. Max cashout 3x after wagering 50x lol. So deposit $100 and get $100 bonus. Wager it $5000 to only be able to win maximum $300. Haha. ok.

Wont be trying it out.

Good luck with the process.

 

[emily3434]

Thank you @Webzcas
Here to help with any questions, please feel free to reach out

 

[maxd]

@emily3434 , perhaps you could comment on @lockinlove ’s post above. Any particular reason for the Welcome Bonus being that limited?

- Max

 

[johnnymcc1966]

The welcome bonus to try it out is terrible. Max cashout 3x after wagering 50x lol. So deposit $100 and get $100 bonus. Wager it $5000 to only be able to win maximum $300. Haha. ok.

Wont be trying it out.

Good luck with the process.

So those of us who throw 10 or 20 at it would be extremely fortunate to make 30-60 after thousands of dollars/euros/pounds worth of spins? It really is slim pickings nowadays.

 

[SYPlayer95]

So those of us who throw 10 or 20 at it would be extremely fortunate to make 30-60 after thousands of dollars/euros/pounds worth of spins? It really is slim pickings nowadays.

No point having a welcome offer with the terms they have on offer. Most customers would be better depositing raw cash.

 

[emily3434]

The welcome bonus to try it out is terrible. Max cashout 3x after wagering 50x lol. So deposit $100 and get $100 bonus. Wager it $5000 to only be able to win maximum $300. Haha. ok.

Wont be trying it out.

Good luck with the process.

Yeah, totally get where you're coming from. A 50x wagering requirement followed by a 3x max cashout can feel restrictive.

But the welcome offer isn’t really about scoring big from the bonus. It’s more of a test for the casino, how they treat new players, how fast support responds, how fair the games feel. It’s meant to highlight casinos that are serious about their players, not just flashy promos.

There are other promos offered outside the welcome offer framework that might appeal?

This is what Casinomeister’s all about - keeping it honest, informed, and looking out for fellow players

 

[SYPlayer95]

Yeah, totally get where you're coming from. A 50x wagering requirement followed by a 3x max cashout can feel restrictive.

But the welcome offer isn’t really about scoring big from the bonus. It’s more of a test for the casino, how they treat new players, how fast support responds, how fair the games feel. It’s meant to highlight casinos that are serious about their players, not just flashy promos.

There are other promos offered outside the welcome offer framework that might appeal?

This is what Casinomeister’s all about - keeping it honest, informed, and looking out for fellow players

Restrictive is an understatement. There's literally no point taking a bonus at your site.

If its a test from the casino for how you treat new players, then there's no much hope to be honest.

What new players would be enticed by your awful welcome offer? If youre going to make players go through 50x wagering, at least get rid of the awful 3x cashout cap.

If you were serious about your players, you wouldn't have such restrictive terms.

Have a look at some of the accredited casinos on here.

 

[lockinlove]

Yeah, totally get where you're coming from. A 50x wagering requirement followed by a 3x max cashout can feel restrictive.

But the welcome offer isn’t really about scoring big from the bonus. It’s more of a test for the casino, how they treat new players, how fast support responds, how fair the games feel. It’s meant to highlight casinos that are serious about their players, not just flashy promos.

There are other promos offered outside the welcome offer framework that might appeal?

This is what Casinomeister’s all about - keeping it honest, informed, and looking out for fellow players

Part of testing out a casino is if you score big to see how they handle withdraws. You have no chance of that with the welcome bonus.

It's an absolutely terrible restriction that is very uncommon in the industry.

I have a choice to play there or not play there and since it seems like this casino tries to take advantage of players and worried about someone winning too big, it already sends up red flags to me.

 

[maxd]

… But the welcome offer isn’t really about scoring big from the bonus. It’s more of a test for the casino …

Actually I can see the point of the “try out”, but in that case a different structure to the bonus would be called for too I should think. Asking players to spend their money for a high risk, low pay offering seems somewhat counterproductive. That said I haven’t played in many years so I’ll leave it to the experienced ones here to give their feedback, as they have been.

- Max

 

[itsme123]

How could it be any kind of inducement to "try out" any casino when if you do hit a decent win and manage wagering you can only withdraw x 3 of the deposit.
So I deposit £100 and get £100 bonus, play down my £100 and go into bonus funds and hit a wild line on DOA @18p for £700, go ahead and wager the £5K and end up with £800. Right away I lose £500 as the max i can withdraw is £300, thats absolutely the opposite of providing an incentive to play at any site and its even more troubling the a rep will come on and try and defend it.

 

[conker]

Hi @itsme123

I get your point and also many of the other points made in this thread. However, haranging reps to come into the thread and defend their bonus offers is just not a reasonable thing to do IMO.

To assume that every players motive of taking a bonus is to make a profit/return is unfounded. Some players may just want some play money to try out a few new games.

There are more reasons than one to take a bonus.

I would actually like to know if anyone has yet signed up and played at Casino Kings? If so, what was your experience like? If you weren't impressed with the bonus, did you just avoid it? What was cashing out like? Did you speak to CS - did they resolve your issues?

It would be good to get some more feedback, other than the bonus terms aren't very appealing.

 

[dunover]

How could it be any kind of inducement to "try out" any casino when if you do hit a decent win and manage wagering you can only withdraw x 3 of the deposit.
So I deposit £100 and get £100 bonus, play down my £100 and go into bonus funds and hit a wild line on DOA @18p for £700, go ahead and wager the £5K and end up with £800. Right away I lose £500 as the max i can withdraw is £300, thats absolutely the opposite of providing an incentive to play at any site and its even more troubling the a rep will come on and try and defend it.

I think the point of these 'second chance' bonuses in the UK is to give exactly that.

Looking at your example the other way, you're withdrawing £300 that you wouldn't have been able to without the bonus as you lost your £100 initial deposit, so the casino is £200 down on the deal.

It's not just this site with that kind of bonus offer, since the prevention of tied bonuses in the UK which placed wagering on the player's cash balance too if they took a bonus, this type of cash conversion-limited bonus is commonplace.

Sure enough, the bigger casinos may have in a few cases no limits or allow higher multiples at 5 or 10x bonus conversion, so I get that it may not be as attractive in comparison.

Your risk is £100 whereas theirs is £300 and don't forget this system doesn't prevent you winning unlimited cash with your £100 deposit and then withdrawing and dumping the bonus funds.

So it isn't a fantastic offer by any means, but it's better than nothing or having the old system of tied match bonuses.

 

[lockinlove]

Hi @itsme123

I get your point and also many of the other points made in this thread. However, haranging reps to come into the thread and defend their bonus offers is just not a reasonable thing to do IMO.

To assume that every players motive of taking a bonus is to make a profit/return is unfounded. Some players may just want some play money to try out a few new games.

There are more reasons than one to take a bonus.

I would actually like to know if anyone has yet signed up and played at Casino Kings? If so, what was your experience like? If you weren't impressed with the bonus, did you just avoid it? What was cashing out like? Did you speak to CS - did they resolve your issues?

It would be good to get some more feedback, other than the bonus terms aren't very appealing.

Disagree.

Casino TOS are extremely important when evaluating a casino.

Any strange term whether its from bonus or not tells me a lot about a casino.

Right away it tells me they dont like winners, it worries me that if I hit big with cash there may be some weird terms buried somewhere or the casino may actually add extra terms. It is a trust factor.

Someone deposits $20 and max cashout is $60.

Players arent signing up because their terms arent good. If a few players want to give it a go with straight cash, all good.

I play many casinos with cash.

My feedback is I wont deposit just cash on this casino because their bonus terms worries me this casino is unstable. It's poor judgement, probably poor management, possible cash flow issues (assumption yes but its how I feel) How do I come to that conclusion just from bad bonus terms?

My questions to myself. Why would a casino restrict a cashout to 3x? What is the reason for that? I come to the above conclusions.

I dont need to bang on about it. This is my view and I find it to be extremely reasonable.

Good luck with the process.

 

[lockinlove]

I think the point of these 'second chance' bonuses in the UK is to give exactly that.

Looking at your example the other way, you're withdrawing £300 that you wouldn't have been able to without the bonus as you lost your £100 initial deposit, so the casino is £200 down on the deal.

It's not just this site with that kind of bonus offer, since the prevention of tied bonuses in the UK which placed wagering on the player's cash balance too if they took a bonus, this type of cash conversion-limited bonus is commonplace.

Sure enough, the bigger casinos may have in a few cases no limits or allow higher multiples at 5 or 10x bonus conversion, so I get that it may not be as attractive in comparison.

Your risk is £100 whereas theirs is £300 and don't forget this system doesn't prevent you winning unlimited cash with your £100 deposit and then withdrawing and dumping the bonus funds.

So it isn't a fantastic offer by any means, but it's better than nothing or having the old system of tied match bonuses.

Find me a gambler who deposits to be capped at 3x and lll find you a 3 legged unicorn.

You are player, lets not pretend you would be happy playing bonanza, rhino hit 10,000x and only can cashout $60 because YOU DIDNT HAVE IT BEFORE.

Come on dunover. Ive been on here a long time to see and hear you call these types of terms "shite". What changed that you now find this acceptable?

Lets stop encouraging this crap and hold casinos accountable for their bs.

 

[itsme123]

Hi @itsme123

I get your point and also many of the other points made in this thread. However, haranging reps to come into the thread and defend their bonus offers is just not a reasonable thing to do IMO.

To assume that every players motive of taking a bonus is to make a profit/return is unfounded. Some players may just want some play money to try out a few new games.

There are more reasons than one to take a bonus.

I would actually like to know if anyone has yet signed up and played at Casino Kings? If so, what was your experience like? If you weren't impressed with the bonus, did you just avoid it? What was cashing out like? Did you speak to CS - did they resolve your issues?

It would be good to get some more feedback, other than the bonus terms aren't very appealing.

I don't think I have harangued the rep by any means, I was just pointing the pitfall of taking a bonus linked to a crazy 50 x wagering and 3 x conversion.
And whilst I would be a normal player who plays for fun and deposit with the expectation that its lost money from the second it is deposited I think its mad to suggest anyone who hits that monster hit while they are playing with bonus funds will have a smile on their face with all they extra play time they are going to have.
Fundamental to anyone gambling is that they will at some stage have the option of withdrawing if the big win comes their way, not that the big win just gives more play time thats the thought process of a compulsive gambler.
And I stand by my statement regarding the rep, bad when they come along and defend sharp practice which offering 50 x wagering and 3 x cashout is.

 

[dunover]

Find me a gambler who deposits to be capped at 3x and lll find you a 3 legged unicorn.

You are player, lets not pretend you would be happy playing bonanza, rhino hit 10,000x and only can cashout $60 because YOU DIDNT HAVE IT BEFORE.

Come on dunover. Ive been on here a long time to see and hear you call these types of terms "shite". What changed that you now find this acceptable?

Lets stop encouraging this crap and hold casinos accountable for their bs.

You've missed my point - you need to understand the rules in the UK now. You are NOT limited to withdrawing 3x your deposit or capped at 3x on it, you can withdraw unlimited amounts from your deposit funds as they are not capped at all.

The bonus only is capped at 3x conversion/withdrawable funds.

Yes, you could end up in a big-win scenario from the bonus funds and fall foul of the limits imposed.

Then again, you could scrape the £300 limit from the £100 bonus, withdraw, redeposit and win from that subsequent all-cash balance with no restrictions. That's gambling.

What changed was not my opinion, but the UKGC bonus rules. When the old system was in place with D+B funds amalgamated and therefore no withdrawals were possible until wagering was completed, the casinos could hardly limit withdrawals when the bankroll consisted of part-cash.

Now they can. Under the old system the odds favoured them getting your deposit from you when tied in to a bonus. They therefore now perceive the separated bonus as a standalone free shot and it could be risky for them without caps.

I have never taken a bonus since those rules were imposed so you're right on that, they are not for me. I only play cash and stay out of the bonus scene.

You're not compelled to the take the bonus! Play cash then see what other offers you get as an established player, if any.

 

[SYPlayer95]

You've missed my point - you need to understand the rules in the UK now. You are NOT limited to withdrawing 3x your deposit or capped at 3x on it, you can withdraw unlimited amounts from your deposit funds as they are not capped at all.

The bonus only is capped at 3x conversion/withdrawable funds.

Yes, you could end up in a big-win scenario from the bonus funds and fall foul of the limits imposed.

Then again, you could scrape the £300 limit from the £100 bonus, withdraw, redeposit and win from that subsequent all-cash balance with no restrictions. That's gambling.

What changed was not my opinion, but the UKGC bonus rules. When the old system was in place with D+B funds amalgamated and therefore no withdrawals were possible until wagering was completed, the casinos could hardly limit withdrawals when the bankroll consisted of part-cash.

Now they can. Under the old system the odds favoured them getting your deposit from you when tied in to a bonus. They therefore now perceive the separated bonus as a standalone free shot and it could be risky for them without caps.

I have never taken a bonus since those rules were imposed so you're right on that, they are not for me. I only play cash and stay out of the bonus scene.

You're not compelled to the take the bonus! Play cash then see what other offers you get as an established player, if any.

Whilst I understand the risk element of this. Surely, that is drastically reduced when you have to wager 50x.

So to then cap the withdrawal from bonus funds to 3x deposit is not player friendly.

To me, that sums up this operator. Not player friendly and does not like winners.

From past experience with this operator, the offers I've had are poor, despite depositing only cash.

I now play elsewhere.

 

[mulven]

Find me a gambler who deposits to be capped at 3x and lll find you a 3 legged unicorn.

You are player, lets not pretend you would be happy playing bonanza, rhino hit 10,000x and only can cashout $60 because YOU DIDNT HAVE IT BEFORE.

Come on dunover. Ive been on here a long time to see and hear you call these types of terms "shite". What changed that you now find this acceptable?

Lets stop encouraging this crap and hold casinos accountable for their bs.

You'll need to get a unicorn and chop off a leg!

SpaceFortuna (kahnawake licenced) used to have a 3x cap on its bonuses. It was parachute so I played the cash on a 97% RTP slot. The bonus was then played on a slot called Gem Saviour (can't win more than 74x stake).

I've also "gamed" progress play (sorry @Betreels Casino & Sports) back in the old days of UK slotting. Fairly sure they still have a 3x cap. It's just a combination of deft slot choice and deposit sizing. I think I might have used jokerizer (600x max) back then but it'll be on its rightful place on the banlist these days.

The main thing is that its parachute/"non-sticky" and like @dunover says, the cash funds are unaffected. If a casino had a low cap and mixed funds that's when it is REALLY REALLY BAD and basically theft from your bank account.

The main thing you need to do is play how you like with your cash and then alter your slot choice to something that won't win a gazillion x for the bonus. I'd obviously prefer it to have a x10 cap or none at all and personally avoided most offers like this but I'd be lying if I said I didn't play them very occasionally.

I agree its not a great bonus and nobody likes caps, especially me, but it could be worse. I expect welcome bonuses like Videoslots and Leovegas that incrementally release as you play with your cash (post-wager) have far more positive sentiment around them despite being bad in terms of value.

EXPECTED VALUE
Raw Money £4,000 wager done = -£140 (96.5%)
LeoVegas x40b PostWager £100 =-£40 (96.5%, since you get £100 reward, that makes sense doesnt it!)
Parachute x40b x3 cap[ed £100 =+£20 (96.5% high var £5 >low var £2)

 

[Webzcas]

We have decided to extend the Baptism by Fire for Casino Kings for a further 30 days. It will now end on 8th October 2025.

 

[emily3434]

We have decided to extend the Baptism by Fire for Casino Kings for a further 30 days. It will now end on 8th October 2025.

Thank you @Webzcas
Happy to answer any questions
Please feel free to reach out to me

 

[SYPlayer95]

Thank you @Webzcas
Happy to answer any questions
Please feel free to reach out to me

Sure, has the 3x cap been removed yet?

 

[emily3434]

Sure, has the 3x cap been removed yet?

I understand this can be frustrating, but for now, we’re still operating under the ProgressPlay setup. We’re gradually taking more control of the brand, which will give us greater flexibility and allow us to offer bonuses that are more player-friendly.

We’re genuinely committed to making this brand better than the typical ProgressPlay sites.

 

[SYPlayer95]

I understand this can be frustrating, but for now, we’re still operating under the ProgressPlay setup. We’re gradually taking more control of the brand, which will give us greater flexibility and allow us to offer bonuses that are more player-friendly.

We’re genuinely committed to making this brand better than the typical ProgressPlay sites.

Thanks for the response.

I note youre genuinely committed to make the brand better than other ProgressPlay sites.

For the members of the forum, can you explain anything you've done to back up your claim?

Otherwise, I cannot see why ANYBODY would want to play at your site.

 

[Webzcas]

Sadly Casino Kings have not done enough on this occasion to get over the line.

 

[SYPlayer95]

Sadly Casino Kings have not done enough on this occasion to get over the line.

Unfortunate, they had a good chance to be fair. But I expected it to go this way. Lack of transparency for me. I didn't genuinely believe what the rep was saying about making the brand better, but could not offer any explanation as to how.