New Slot Announcement Book Of 99 by Relax Gaming

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Well I've signed up at the bizarrely named Skol Casino, I'll give Book of 99 a decent session this evening for the next video on my channel.

The SUB is not available to UK players but it seemed to recognise my IOM address OK and I was able to take the SUB (well, there are five SUBs actually), although Book of 99, unsurprisingly, contributes 0% to wagering :D

Site itself seems clean and simple to use, and it has an option to list games by provider, which is something that continues to elude, for example, Unibet.
 

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Yes, not often a release makes bonus exclusion on day one. Never seen a list be updated so quick.

I think welcome bonus is available for UK. Thats what I've been riding :)

List is alphabetical and doesn't apply until bonus kicks in as I'm sure you know, best of luck :)
 

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I find this a quite worrying release in the bigger picture of things. Won't be winning any popularity contests, but figured what the hell, posting anyway.

The trend of moving towards extremely volatile games and now potentially games that return 99% to player, can only work for operators that are big enough in the industry.

Even they won't be happy with it, but they'll survive it. The smaller ones that still have to fight for their market space and can still be influenced by swings (big wins) are very negatively impacted by this. Not because they cannot afford to pay the big wins that high-volatility creates (if they can't, they have no right to be in the space anyway), but because it affects the margins (NGR minus cost of sales) so dramatically.

Game suppliers – in a traditional contract – ask for a profit sharing and (sometimes) a minimum guaranteed fee, but will never share in the loss. If players win in any given month, the operator is required to pay the minimum “profit” sharing, but won’t see it deducted by the wins.

In a game model where the selling proposition in recent years clearly moved-away from low volatile titles to not just high volatile titles, but extreme volatile titles, the commercial model in which you operate as an operator becomes shaky. When a slot takes it all in one month, to then spew it away the next one, you end-up paying superficially high revenue share percentages that you at the start of the cooperation would never agree with. Simple example:

Month A: 100 EUR bets; 0 EUR wins -> profit sharing of 10% on 100 EUR = 10 EUR
Month B: 100 EUR bets; 180 EUR wins -> profit sharing of 10% on 0 EUR = 0 EUR, maybe a minimum fee on top in addition, depending on the supplier.

Even without minimum fee, you have now paid 10 EUR in fees on 20 EUR in revenue, in other words, 50%. This is of course an extreme example to illustrate a point, but you get the picture. It changes the margins dramatically.

High-volatile games were a good innovation by the game suppliers, don't get me wrong, it was an instant hit with players and I believe it also generated a lot of new blood (traffic) that previously wasn't interested by online games. So while it represented a problem to small and medium players and their margins and while it was a big shift (commercially) in favor of the supplier, it also had a lot of pro's for the casino itself.

If, however, you are now going to take it even further and mix high volatility into a 99% RTP model, you are creating games that may work well for you individually as a supplier (I’m sure they’ll get plenty of exposure from streamers with it), but that do not work for the partners that hosts the games. Maybe for a select few that are sufficiently big, but not for those below that size. If you eliminate competition this way, you’ll end-up in an environment with just a few big players out there and nothing else (except for those not giving a damn about ethics anyway, as they'll confiscate the win later on anyway). In my view, that cannot be healthy.

That is why I’m personally not very happy about this release, because I like to play on new casino's (that are rated decently) because they are still "hungry" and generally speaking often offer a better personalized service than the big ones. Moreover so, because the motive for the release - I'm sure - wasn't altruism and "supporting the player", more an attempt to regain market share that was slowly deteriorating with new suppliers arriving on the scene.

I don’t think it’s a benefit to the average casino player in the bigger scheme of things, when competition gets eliminated, innovation stops and just two categories of casino’s remain: those that scam & those that launched early enough to have made their money in easier circumstances. Because I am 100% sure a small and medium sized casino cannot run on a 99% RTP + high volatility game model (when doing things properly) and even for the big mammoths in the industry it will ultimately start representing a problem, certainly in territories where extra taxes are due. The best proof of that being that quite a few of them already moved to lower RTP versions of games that were "just" around 97%.

So who this release really caters to, is indeed the player (short-term), but in the long-term, those that creatively find ways to lower the payout ratio (e.g declining withdrawals), unhindered by even > 100% RTPs. And the game supplier itself of course...
 

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Surely it's just for casinos to decide for themselves if they want to take the game or not? By all accounts a lot of places aren't taking Book Of 99 on, which is their choice.

I don't see this as starting some kind of trend towards mega-high RTP games, it's more of a one-off novelty I suspect, and at the end of the day it's only possible to plug away at a single game for so long.

TBH I'm finding it very hard to find a way to turn the existence of a 99% game into something that's bad for players, although I do appreciate the substantial effort you applied to the task in your post!
 

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Dude are you really worried about casinos not making enough? Go and have a look at the bonanza thread here , hopefully you will feel sorry for the players lol
 

N3verEasy

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Could you link that one @jaydub? Doesn't ring a bell :)

About the point itself, let me put it differently: in a world where the player is only focused on RTP and avoids brands that do not offer 99% RTP games (if that were to become a trend) and only favors those that do, I do believe the player is worse-off, because the only way for that to work for small-medium (and I believe even big, in the long run) casino's, is to get creative elsewhere.

So if you start from that principle...

But you are of course completely right when you say that the casino still decide themselves what games they offer and what games they do not offer, so that in that sense the market will "do its thing" and it's best to enjoy the short-term benefits as a player and not think too far ahead :)
 

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Wonder what they mean with this part.
Rtp and volatility are two separate things that have nothing to do with each other.

All 95.11% rtp tells me is that its on the lower side of things when it comes to rtp.
 

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Wonder what they mean with this part.
Rtp and volatility are two separate things that have nothing to do with each other.

All 95.11% rtp tells me is that its on the lower side of things when it comes to rtp.
Not sure why they say that, all i know is that its a bonus quick hit slot, and any follow up after the hit just get's eaten back up quick. Other thing is that when it hits, the payout is better then most slot i know. Worth a try i guess;)

Furthermore just looking at rtp alone, does not do the slot justice, its only when u try it out, can you really tell, what a slot is like, you cannot "judge a book by its cover", just like ppl.
 
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Not sure why they say that, all i know is that its a bonus quick hit slot, and any follow up after the hit just get's eaten back up quick. Other thing is that when it hits, the payout is better then most slot i know. Worth a try i guess;)

Furthermore just looking at rtp alone, does not do the slot justice, its only when u try it out, can you really tell, what a slot is like, you cannot "judge a book by its cover", just like ppl.
I really didnt mean it as a diss, i just thought it was a bit odd that they say its low-medium volatile due to the 95% rtp.
I do think 95% is on the lower side of things, but i still play alot of novomatics, and they are all at 95% and can be great when they are in the mood.

Everyone knows the best slots run 96.82% rtp.
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I find this a quite worrying release in the bigger picture of things. Won't be winning any popularity contests, but figured what the hell, posting anyway.

The trend of moving towards extremely volatile games and now potentially games that return 99% to player, can only work for operators that are big enough in the industry.

Even they won't be happy with it, but they'll survive it. The smaller ones that still have to fight for their market space and can still be influenced by swings (big wins) are very negatively impacted by this. Not because they cannot afford to pay the big wins that high-volatility creates (if they can't, they have no right to be in the space anyway), but because it affects the margins (NGR minus cost of sales) so dramatically.

Game suppliers – in a traditional contract – ask for a profit sharing and (sometimes) a minimum guaranteed fee, but will never share in the loss. If players win in any given month, the operator is required to pay the minimum “profit” sharing, but won’t see it deducted by the wins.

In a game model where the selling proposition in recent years clearly moved-away from low volatile titles to not just high volatile titles, but extreme volatile titles, the commercial model in which you operate as an operator becomes shaky. When a slot takes it all in one month, to then spew it away the next one, you end-up paying superficially high revenue share percentages that you at the start of the cooperation would never agree with. Simple example:

Month A: 100 EUR bets; 0 EUR wins -> profit sharing of 10% on 100 EUR = 10 EUR
Month B: 100 EUR bets; 180 EUR wins -> profit sharing of 10% on 0 EUR = 0 EUR, maybe a minimum fee on top in addition, depending on the supplier.

Even without minimum fee, you have now paid 10 EUR in fees on 20 EUR in revenue, in other words, 50%. This is of course an extreme example to illustrate a point, but you get the picture. It changes the margins dramatically.

High-volatile games were a good innovation by the game suppliers, don't get me wrong, it was an instant hit with players and I believe it also generated a lot of new blood (traffic) that previously wasn't interested by online games. So while it represented a problem to small and medium players and their margins and while it was a big shift (commercially) in favor of the supplier, it also had a lot of pro's for the casino itself.

If, however, you are now going to take it even further and mix high volatility into a 99% RTP model, you are creating games that may work well for you individually as a supplier (I’m sure they’ll get plenty of exposure from streamers with it), but that do not work for the partners that hosts the games. Maybe for a select few that are sufficiently big, but not for those below that size. If you eliminate competition this way, you’ll end-up in an environment with just a few big players out there and nothing else (except for those not giving a damn about ethics anyway, as they'll confiscate the win later on anyway). In my view, that cannot be healthy.

That is why I’m personally not very happy about this release, because I like to play on new casino's (that are rated decently) because they are still "hungry" and generally speaking often offer a better personalized service than the big ones. Moreover so, because the motive for the release - I'm sure - wasn't altruism and "supporting the player", more an attempt to regain market share that was slowly deteriorating with new suppliers arriving on the scene.

I don’t think it’s a benefit to the average casino player in the bigger scheme of things, when competition gets eliminated, innovation stops and just two categories of casino’s remain: those that scam & those that launched early enough to have made their money in easier circumstances. Because I am 100% sure a small and medium sized casino cannot run on a 99% RTP + high volatility game model (when doing things properly) and even for the big mammoths in the industry it will ultimately start representing a problem, certainly in territories where extra taxes are due. The best proof of that being that quite a few of them already moved to lower RTP versions of games that were "just" around 97%.

So who this release really caters to, is indeed the player (short-term), but in the long-term, those that creatively find ways to lower the payout ratio (e.g declining withdrawals), unhindered by even > 100% RTPs. And the game supplier itself of course...

I respect your opinion. Still, we could not be further apart in our way of thinking.

Though one point you mentioned about average players having to adjust when high volatility games hit the market was interesting; Players are going through the same now. Except for one major difference - The games are even more volatile with lower hit rates combined with lower RTP's.

Cutting players time does not benefit players, casinos or providers

The players are not demanding these games either as some providers like to portray. High volatility games are pushed by providers fighting for youtube mega wins with less risk to the casino now because in some cases, they are doubling the house edge. They are also massively different to a highly volatile slot of old.

Book Of 99 is a players slot but it's not dooming the industry. How many games come in at over 96% now? If it gains in popularity like it should it will still make a casino profit. Besides, how many Book of 99 slots do you think are out there? :)

Providing the catalogue of games from Relax makes money on the whole and it will, I dont see why Relax don't demand its taken, of course, that would be pretty drastic and potentially damaging to their brilliant network of games, so the choice is there.

I think you are way off. This slot is not bad for casinos it's good to offer this kind of variety. Players losing money quicker is worse for the industry in the long run. And smaller outfits have always had to find ways to distinguish themselves - that's business.

This is one slot that should still make money and it wont break a casino either, have you played it? It's really not that volatile in my experience, although Relax say it is and they should know :)

And I dont think casinos are forced into lowering RTP's through taxes either, plus am yet to see any evidence to back that up. They are making more money than ever.
 

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Here's my session on this from last night, also features a new Play 'N Go game and there's a cheeky little feature at the end on Punk Rocker :)


Good video mate, I would have a chat with CS about that pop-up throwing you out. They appear in-game as they should for me.

Love Punk Rocker too and most since seem to have poor hit rates and dont inspire me.
 

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Good video Chop. Rather reflected my experience of playtime when I played it for the 'golden hours' on VS. My high point was hitting a 4OAK premium symbol on 20p stake. Other than that, your video portrays usual play scenario. I think if you're not getting a premium in the bonus round then the potential really isn't there. I don't think non premiums, even given their substantially larger presence on the reels means 4 and 5OAK's are more frequent. It seemed quite gimped to me. A bit like the symbol picked doesn't matter on a Bonanza bonus it's just eye candy. I think the danger here is the uninitiated will expect the slot to pay if they have a mild awareness of RTP and the normal rules of variance may be lost to them.
 

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I respect your opinion. Still, we could not be further apart in our way of thinking.

Though one point you mentioned about average players having to adjust when high volatility games hit the market was interesting; Players are going through the same now. Except for one major difference - The games are even more volatile with lower hit rates combined with lower RTP's.

Cutting players time does not benefit players, casinos or providers

The players are not demanding these games either as some providers like to portray. High volatility games are pushed by providers fighting for youtube mega wins with less risk to the casino now because in some cases, they are doubling the house edge. They are also massively different to a highly volatile slot of old.

Book Of 99 is a players slot but it's not dooming the industry. How many games come in at over 96% now? If it gains in popularity like it should it will still make a casino profit. Besides, how many Book of 99 slots do you think are out there? :)

Providing the catalogue of games from Relax makes money on the whole and it will, I dont see why Relax don't demand its taken, of course, that would be pretty drastic and potentially damaging to their brilliant network of games, so the choice is there.

I think you are way off. This slot is not bad for casinos it's good to offer this kind of variety. Players losing money quicker is worse for the industry in the long run. And smaller outfits have always had to find ways to distinguish themselves - that's business.

This is one slot that should still make money and it wont break a casino either, have you played it? It's really not that volatile in my experience, although Relax say it is and they should know :)

And I dont think casinos are forced into lowering RTP's through taxes either, plus am yet to see any evidence to back that up. They are making more money than ever.
Great post mate !!! I agree with you 100% .

Before pandemic I always played in land based , mostly table games and so are the other people , most of the customers play blackjack , baccarat which I think has 99% RTP when played optimal( correct me if I am wrong ) .... Still I saw people loosing their wages in matter of few hours on those tables with 99% RTP ...

The house always wins as long as the RTP is less than 100% :)
 
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