New Slot Announcement Book Of 99 by Relax Gaming

[Kroffe]

Apparently this gives a bonus after collecting 99 scatter symbols also

Oh... on most other book slots you only need 3 for a bonus.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

LOL...I remember that, the 19th. hole golf slot or whatever it was.

Aye that was the fella, the bonus had a pretty aggressive expiration on it too, I did £122,000 in wagering over a weekend

 

[DreamRJ]

Never even seen someone get a full screen and a 4OAK for 1000x in the same bonus. Have seen 5000x plus a 100x for 3....

Just search on YouTube, Top 10 Slot Wins on Book Of Dead and you will see them...... loads and loads have hit the max win in 1 spin and it ends the bonus. Yet I think also in this same video which I will not even mention who's channel it is on this forum as I am not a fan of them what so ever that it also has the bonuses where it continues past the 5000X too.

Who knows if the ones that carry on past the 5000X is legit or not. I do not trust that company anyway and that channel using the same name

 

[bamberfishcake]

Aye that was the fella, the bonus had a pretty aggressive expiration on it too, I did £122,000 in wagering over a weekend

They should remake that slot 'The Back 9' looks impressive even by such old standards.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

They should remake that slot 'The Back 9' looks impressive even by such old standards.

Rival slots in general were pretty good, quite a few imaginative ideas TBH, it's a shame they never made it to more 'mainstream' casinos.

I'd take them over most of the mega-HV shite out there these days.

 

[dunover]

Just search on YouTube, Top 10 Slot Wins on Book Of Dead and you will see them...... loads and loads have hit the max win in 1 spin and it ends the bonus. Yet I think also in this same video which I will not even mention who's channel it is on this forum as I am not a fan of them what so ever that it also has the bonuses where it continues past the 5000X too.

Who knows if the ones that carry on past the 5000X is legit or not. I do not trust that company anyway and that channel using the same name

Interesting as we know -Play'n Go games have been faked and are available to scam casinos, but I would say this could be legit if the operator makes the choice.

 

[Flyingslotsman]

It would make zero business sense to make a product, your customers do not want.

The providers are also in this game to make money, so by bringing games out with variable RTP they are covering more base's = more profit.

I understand that, my point is videoslots for example must request the lower rtp version, but blueprint and btg don't offer various models and they still have their games available

 

[Kroffe]

I understand that, my point is videoslots for example must request the lower rtp version, but blueprint and btg don't offer various models and they still have their games available

Agree with you.
No casino would suddenly drop providers like Netent,Play n Go, etc even if they suddenly stopped offering lower versions starting tomorrow.
A big/popular provider can set the rtp at whatever they want to and casinos will still add their games, because if they dont, people looking for those games will go elsewhere.

But lower rtp isnt just more money for the casinos, its more money for the providers aswell.
So its not like Casinos hold all the blame.

 

[bamberfishcake]

It would make zero business sense to make a product, your customers do not want.

Its a mute point for me.

Customers did not and are not knowingly demanding these lower versions.

As we all know the vast majority of customers are unaware there are lower paying versions of the same slot.

Its what some casinos want and some providers have seen it as an opportunity to gain market share and clearly do not care as much about the end user as much as Relax are stating.

None of what is happening is in demand from the punters. Probably 99% of people who play these slots dont know and if they did, wouldnt like it, so its pulling the wool over peoples eyes and quite frankly, a con.

I challenge any representative from any jurisdiction, casino, provider to give me a valid reason why its not and why it has to work this way. Nobody will step forward because it cannot be justified.

Leo Vegas took the trouble to email me regarding a change to their bonuses today. Strange how they couldnt be bothered to send one about switching to lower paying versions/lower RTP versions of their slots. Funny that isnt it? The legislation is crooked in that respect but LV Bet or Energy didnt treat their customers unfairly like that.

Its disgusting and im glad there is finally a provider, along with a few casinos, who seem to care.

 

[Gaz237]

I understand that, my point is videoslots for example must request the lower rtp version, but blueprint and btg don't offer various models and they still have their games available

BTG and Blueprint are very popular, so are in a position, to somewhat dictate their terms.

If Casinos started to drop them, they would have no choice but to join the ranks.

 

[Gaz237]

Its a mute point for me.

Customers did not and are not knowingly demanding these lower versions.

As we all know the vast majority of customers are unaware there are lower paying versions of the same slot.

Its what some casinos want and some providers have seen it as an opportunity to gain market share and clearly do not care as much about the end user as much as Relax are stating.

None of what is happening is in demand from the punters. Probably 99% of people who play these slots dont know and if they did, wouldnt like it, so its pulling the wool over peoples eyes and quite frankly, a con.

I challenge any representative from any jurisdiction, casino, provider to give me a valid reason why its not and why it has to work this way. Nobody will step forward because it cannot be justified.

Leo Vegas took the trouble to email me regarding a change to their bonuses today. Strange how they couldnt be bothered to send one about switching to lower paying versions/lower RTP versions of their slots. Funny that isnt it? The legislation is crooked in that respect but LV Bet or Energy didnt treat their customers unfairly like that.

Its disgusting and im glad there is finally a provider, along with a few casinos, who seem to care.

The customers i'm referring to in this case is the Casino's.

They can demand lower rtp versions, or pull the games if the provider refuses.

Hence why would they make games with RTP levels the customer (casino) dont want?

 

[bamberfishcake]

The customers i'm referring to in this case is the Casino's.

They can demand lower rtp versions, or pull the games if the provider refuses.

Hence why would they make games with RTP levels the customer (casino) dont want?

Oh sure, there in demand.

And you've hit the nail on the head.

They can pull the games they like - this is influenced by what end users play. Dont play providers that offer and you take away the choice for the casino.

As for 'demanding' lower versions. I dont know the history but my guess is it was more provider led, than casino. In any case, the monster has been created now. Another reason not to play those same providers.

A release like this will hopefully help towards educating some

 

[dunover]

@ChopleyIOM etc. If you want to try this 99% RTP game, then here's the link.

I will raise a glass to any casino offering it, as it will kill Book of Dead, Book of Ra Deluxe etc. right off.

It has exactly the same symbol pays as those two slots although looks and sounds crappier.

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[CasinoNinja]

Collecting the books seems fairly quick as well, got about half of them in 100 spins

 

[Nate]

Ran it about 500 spins.

Lost 315x to get 99 Books - No natural triggers in-between.

1 Feature on 99 Books - Paid 26x

Book of 50%?

Nate

 

[pinnit2014]

Ran it about 500 spins.

Lost 315x to get 99 Books - No natural triggers in-between.

1 Feature on 99 Books - Paid 26x

Book of 50%?

Nate

Stop giving Videoslots ideas

Wait

They got there first

 

[Kroffe]

Confirmed.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Ran it about 500 spins.

Lost 315x to get 99 Books - No natural triggers in-between.

1 Feature on 99 Books - Paid 26x

Book of 50%?

Nate

How is that even possible? By my reckoning you're looking at ~225 spins to get the 99 books, so to be 315x stake down to get 99 books means you'd have had to had bad luck on collecting the books to start with and basically won almost nothing in the base game along the way?

I've done a few cycles on it to 99 books now, around 225 spins to get the books seems about right, might be a bit more than that, and normal feature frequency feels about the same as Book Of Dead.

So if we consider that Book Of Dead is 96.21% (in its non-gimped form), playing Book Of 99 instead seems like a total no-brainer as you're basically guaranteed a feature every 250-300 spins (near enough) plus have normal feature triggers too.

 

[thr0b]

How is that even possible? By my reckoning you're looking at ~225 spins to get the 99 books, so to be 315x stake down to get 99 books means you'd have had to had bad luck on collecting the books to start with and basically won almost nothing in the base game along the way?

I've done a few cycles on it to 99 books now, around 225 spins to get the books seems about right, might be a bit more than that, and normal feature frequency feels about the same as Book Of Dead.

So if we consider that Book Of Dead is 96.21% (in its non-gimped form), playing Book Of 99 instead seems like a total no-brainer as you're basically guaranteed a feature every 250-300 spins (near enough) plus have normal feature triggers too.

AND the collection feature includes the three books for triggering the normal feature. I think most providers would only include non-feature scatters in the collection (e.g Lil Devil)

 

[Nate]

How is that even possible? By my reckoning you're looking at ~225 spins to get the 99 books, so to be 315x stake down to get 99 books means you'd have had to had bad luck on collecting the books to start with and basically won almost nothing in the base game along the way?

Yep... biggest hit was like 22x in all those spins. After 200 - 250 odd spins, I was on about 12 x as a best hit. Its volatile.

After posting, I started 500 spins again. Triggered the natural spins after about 70 rounds. That paid in the region of about 210x.

Was still down about 180x overall or thereabouts after that hit. Maybe a nice concept to lowroll and collect books, but got bored quickly.

Doesn't really have the appeal of BOD. Not my cuppa tea.

Nate

 

[colinsunderland]

I did this a few times, this was my first result, the others were similar in overall loss, number of spins, although the other bonuses paid more, was still quite a big loss on them.

So 313 spins to trigger it, a £195.50 loss (£1 per spin) and a £1.50 feature win, which was 'A'

 

[sufferinsilence]

Isn't "Book of 99 ways to screw you over" a better name for this slot?

 

[dunover]

I had my first feature via the reels, after about 70 spins, paid 121.5x of which 101.5x was the triggering spin (line of 4 top symbols inc. 3 Wilds for 100x) then I got another natural feature, paid 17.5x (Queens) before triggering the trail after about 210 spins (paid 22x for aces).

 

[Kroffe]

Triggered it 3 times now in demo.
Took 250-270 spins each time to trigger, not a single 'natural' feature, best bonus paid a bit over 200x which left me about even. (for that particular collection, not overall)
Its not like i expect to end with profit, but i do expect to trigger a feature by getting 3 books more often than 0 times in 750+ spins when playing a 'book-slot'.
Preliminary score 1/10

 

[pinnit2014]

Triggered it 3 times now in demo.
Took 250-270 spins each time to trigger, not a single 'natural' feature, best bonus paid a bit over 200x which left me about even. (for that particular collection, not overall)
Its not like i expect to end with profit, but i do expect to trigger a feature by getting 3 books more often than 0 times in 750+ spins when playing a 'book-slot'.
Preliminary score 1/10
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Should try the BF book game, Book of Ming: went a few close to that figure before.

Again, it's the whole collector thing i don't like - always makes me think they turned down the ability to trigger naturally as it'll come in 500 spins etc. Which is fine if you plan on staying on it but if you fancy a 100 spin, smash and grab slot session, not so much.