New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[snorky510238]

Possibly the most disappointing ever! Again, the bigger stakes fail to produce but the base kept my balance ticking.

 

[curremon]

Since i forgot... whats the average win of the bonus ?

 

[goatwack]

They come out round about the 50x mark......mostly

 

[snorky510238]

Supposedly x100.

 

[curremon]

Supposedly x100.

I think btg has announced that its around 100x... Ill post my colletion of bonuses soon from last few months... there is maybe max 50x win

 

[thr0b]

Just got a decent bonus on Bonanza at All British - £89.16 on a 60p spin. Hurrah!

Bit disappointed though - @L&L-Jan - the on-screen display of my balance updated before the final spin had played out, which ruined the surprise a little! (Bonanza TM, for reference). Can't say for certain when it updated, but I think it was after the penultimate spin, but before the last spin had spun.

 

[thr0b]

To be clear - I don't think the spins are pre-planned or any shenanigans - clearly the operator updates the casino with the win at the time of the spin, I'd just like to be able to hide the "casino" balance when playing on desktop. I trust the balance shown in the game.

 

[mack341]

zis is impossible! btg swore blue their bonus was played out live, spin by spin

 

[goatwack]

zis is impossible! btg swore blue their bonus was played out live, spin by spin

Otto? Is zat you?

 

[thr0b]

zis is impossible! btg swore blue their bonus was played out live, spin by spin

I believe it is. Carried on playing for a bit longer - the balance update on the casino side happens after the spin button is clicked, but before the graphical animations are complete. So clearly the game server plays out the spins, tells the casino the new balance, and the graphics lag behind. Less noticeable on a simple win spin, but a bit disappointing when reactions start coming in because you already know what the win is.

Basically - the spin pay is decided at the start of the spin. The graphics are just for show and the fun of the game. Makes sense - if it weren't the case, the awful Netent Blitz mode could not work at all.

 

[goatwack]

Has anyone tried to quit out of a ropey Bonanza bonus and reloaded it for a better result? Is this a thing? Is this possible? I'd really like to know

 

[thr0b]

Wouldn’t be possible simply as you don’t know if it was always going to give a better result in the remaining spins.

The win is determined each spin, not at the start of the bonus.

 

[thr0b]

To add - there were similar ideas regarding fruit machines a good few years back. Came to something of a head when the ROMS started appearing online, so you could play e.g. Cops & Robbers in emulation at home.

People would take the higher/lower gamble and lose. But before making the choice, they took a snapshot of the game state. After losing, they'd reload the game state, take the other choice and still lose. Proved the gamble outcome was pre-determined no matter what your choice. Totally unfair.

Lead to the industry being mandated to label each fruity with a sticker which reads "This machine may offer you a gamble which you cannot win".

 

[snorky510238]

Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye.

The bonus round totals have to be decided the instant the bonus round triggers. @pinnit2014 once triggered one and had not pressed start before he was disconnected, on reloading his balance had updated. He pressed start and the the graphics played out accordingly.

If you got disconnected half way through a bonus it wouldn’t make the slightest difference to the overall outcome. The only thing that can vary is the graphics would not appear in the same order but the total remains the same.

This absolutely proves that each spin is not made independently one after the other for example on spin 3 the game already knows the outcome of spin 9, etc. Otherwise with pinnit’s example the total could not have been displayed and to rubber stamp that theory, if it is deemed incorrect, how could the game know that spin 9 wouldn’t produce a retrigger?

This also explains why 17 and 22 spin triggers often produce shockers as if the predetermined amount is low the graphics have to produce a horror show to match. Whatever we are told, this is the way it works.

I mean consider this, Bonanza has billions of possibilities, which should make it capable of wins in the region of x50,000, yet nobody, despite thousands of bonuses has come anywhere near.

 

[goatwack]

Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye.

The bonus round totals have to be decided the instant the bonus round triggers. @pinnit2014 once triggered one and had not pressed start before he was disconnected, on reloading his balance had updated. He pressed start and the the graphics played out accordingly.

If you got disconnected half way through a bonus it wouldn’t make the slightest difference to the overall outcome. The only thing that can vary is the graphics would not appear in the same order but the total remains the same.

This absolutely proves that each spin is not made independently one after the other for example on spin 3 the game already knows the outcome of spin 9, etc. Otherwise with pinnit’s example the total could not have been displayed and to rubber stamp that theory, if it is deemed incorrect, how could the game know that spin 9 wouldn’t produce a retrigger?

This also explains why 17 and 22 spin triggers often produce shockers as if the predetermined amount is low the graphics have to produce a horror show to match. Whatever we are told, this is the way it works.

I mean consider this, Bonanza has billions of possibilities, which should make it capable of wins in the region of x50,000, yet nobody, despite thousands of bonuses has come anywhere near.

You can be such a Doubting Doris sometimes

 

[pinnit2014]

Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye.

The bonus round totals have to be decided the instant the bonus round triggers. @pinnit2014 once triggered one and had not pressed start before he was disconnected, on reloading his balance had updated. He pressed start and the the graphics played out accordingly.

If you got disconnected half way through a bonus it wouldn’t make the slightest difference to the overall outcome. The only thing that can vary is the graphics would not appear in the same order but the total remains the same.

This absolutely proves that each spin is not made independently one after the other for example on spin 3 the game already knows the outcome of spin 9, etc. Otherwise with pinnit’s example the total could not have been displayed and to rubber stamp that theory, if it is deemed incorrect, how could the game know that spin 9 wouldn’t produce a retrigger?

This also explains why 17 and 22 spin triggers often produce shockers as if the predetermined amount is low the graphics have to produce a horror show to match. Whatever we are told, this is the way it works.

I mean consider this, Bonanza has billions of possibilities, which should make it capable of wins in the region of x50,000, yet nobody, despite thousands of bonuses has come anywhere near.

Yeah, there’s semantics about how each is still random, but grouped etc but all I took from that was that once the 12 etc appears after bonus triggered you’ve already been allocated the 17x win.

It took me a good 2 days to get that pre determined 23x into my balance. Worth the wait.

DreamRJ had something similar with White Rabbit but each time he played the bonus it was giving a different end total

 

[snorky510238]

Yeah I have done it on book of gods.

 

[snorky510238]

You can be such a Doubting Doris sometimes

Only sometimes! Shit I thought, I had perfected it.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

I’ve plugged a few bonuses that were looking like absolute ‘shitters’

Needless to say nothing surprising happened on each of the few occasions I tried it.

 

[Reelsoffun]

Supposedly x100.

My data fully supports that it is around that so I would say yes it is.

 

[brianmon]

The SlotTracker community average bonus, over 5.3 million spins, is 90.46x for Bonanza.

 

[Playford7]

The SlotTracker community average bonus, over 5.3 million spins, is 90.46x for Bonanza.

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Not far off the supposed 100x I guess.

 

[Jono777]

Not far off the supposed 100x I guess.

However surprisingly below and not above

 

[Reelsoffun]

What you should ALL take note of more than anything is the Volatility meter As i have said before no where near the HV monster a lot of you think it is....... and should play it as such.

 

[Davey86]

I’ve had much worse onwards and upwards/ R I P