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[PMKFRUITPRO]

Nicked £50 on footy.

Threw that at it….

FML that was on 80p

1 L no cascade chances(shock)

Obv no base win.

At least the random dead spell continues into almost 4hrs now.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Difficult not to carry on but were you the draw the line?? That’s nearly £700 down on modest stakes with just 1 shitty feature.

Just doesn’t look like doing a fucking thing with 4hrs of scatterless bullshit.

 

[dunover]

You literally would not believe my stats for Bonanza. I will ask @Chopley first, if he thinks conclusions can be drawn over 100 consecutive bonuses. If not, how many would you say is needed?

P.S. I will ask @dunover too, as he is the resident expert.

LOL I think it's NYX or known nowadays as SG/Light & Wonder.

100 bonuses you would expect 0 at 1000x plus, 1 or 2 at 500x plus and several in the 2-300x range, averaging about 85-90x. Getting 100x or more seems to occur about 1/4 bonuses. You would expect to get 0 paying 0x, <5 paying 1-10x and the most common result being the 20-40x shitters. It's those which 'store' value for the above-average and big ones of 500x plus.

 

[megadam]

Ahh that’s right I see Xmas bonanza is on that list…

Look at this filth fest. Stakes between 60p and £1 and the last £100 on £2.

For that loss I got 1 feature of less than 10x and 1 base win of over 25x

And in all that time 5 yes that’s not a typo 5 (five) cascade chances. The old non scatter reel set, fucks me over yet again.

Merry Xmas and fuck off BTG.

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Not surprised at that tbh. My stats on Christmas Bonanza will be in the low 20s RTP wise after about 2000 odd spins. Rinsed an absolute fortune off of me on 20-60p stakes and it barely ever bonused. When it did it was shocking.

BTG post Evolution buy out are exactly the same as the other studios bought out by Evo. Churning out slots with anemic features, nonsensical math models and bonus buys that are just completely savage. The only good game that's come out is Max Megaways 2 and jeez the enhanced buy on that is either Dunover levels of spawn or an absolute fisting.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Isn't Christmas Bonanza just a reskin/clone of Bonanza, or is it actually a different game?

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

It’s the same apparently but irrelevant as both can do exactly the same.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Just some players seem to avoid it constantly and others don’t.

 

[snorky510238]

Isn't Christmas Bonanza just a foreskin/clone of Bonanza, or is it actually a different game?

That’s better.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Monopoly MW - @ChopleyIOM loved this to death lol

I still have the stats I recorded for my brief encounter with this, the name of the file says it all.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Terrible game.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Great few days……

£1200 odd loss playing on mainly 40-80p stakes managing a huge 83% capped off by a £250 loss on DHV playing on 40p for just one yes 1 fucking feature. Nothing like a 600+X loss on a game that has a 65x feature buy. Just about managed an hours play for that. Thanks very much for the thrilling entertainment BTG.

And I thought Christmas bonanza was bad enough….

Blatant continuous death spell with absolutely no movement out of filth mode.

Sometimes u sit there rattling through spins knowing ur gonna get fucked over hard. Yet you believe ur supposedly getting a fair crack of the whip.

Deposit after deposit going in one direction and never even fluctuating in the slightest.

Just 3 deposits yielding features and some kind of expected game time. Christmas bonanza finally yielding a 230x feature.

Time for a holiday….

Playing at Dazza stakes I would have dropped the equivalent of 10 bag.

Absolute fucking disgrace.

 

[kennygamerboy]

Great few days……

£1200 odd loss playing on mainly 40-80p stakes managing a huge 83% capped off by a £250 loss on DHV playing on 40p for just one yes 1 fucking feature. Nothing like a 600+X loss on a game that has a 65x feature buy. Just about managed an hours play for that. Thanks very much for the thrilling entertainment BTG.

And I thought Christmas bonanza was bad enough….

Blatant continuous death spell with absolutely no movement out of filth mode.

Sometimes u sit there rattling through spins knowing ur gonna get fucked over hard. Yet you believe ur supposedly getting a fair crack of the whip.

Deposit after deposit going in one direction and never even fluctuating in the slightest.

Just 3 deposits yielding features and some kind of expected game time. Christmas bonanza finally yielding a 230x feature.

Time for a holiday….

Playing at Dazza stakes I would have dropped the equivalent of 10 bag.

Absolute fucking disgrace.

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Switch casinos up

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

I love braining mate!!

Besides can barely get a deposit in anywhere.

Either restricted or small limits unless I give them bank statements etc etc.

No casino will ever get fuck all like that from me.

 

[Valhalla]

Still waiting on the big win pictures from Bonanza Fails ??‍

As for BTG themselves, there are a few games I do actually think are good:
DHV (great), Donuts, Final Countdown, L’il Devil.
The rest are all complete garbage, and the two main Bonanza Versions are nothing short of downright offensive.

 

[snorky510238]

The problem being, they were great games until BTG gimped them all and changed the way they played. Bonanza was equally as good if not better than all of them but now, since the butchering, it’s a rancid piece of shite, that isn’t fit for purpose.

The incredible runs of 15-20 consecutive dead spins. NEVER USE TO HAPPEN.
Going days without seeing a bonus round. NEVER USED TO HAPPEN.
Having 90% of the bonus rounds pay less than x100. NEVER USED TO HAPPEN.

I have seen several people say that on a day when it’s dead (most days, then), it feels like bonus rounds are blocked from being achievable. After more than what can be classed as extensive play, I can confirm that this is indeed, correct.

Your chances of winning varies from day to day. Nothing random about it whatsoever. The results may well be pulled from a random generator but on certain days, there’s no diesel in it. Joking aside, on certain days the nice prizes/results are not available.

The overall payout of the game is controlled by the mother rtp manipulator (or whatever you want to call it). This means that the game will pay the rtp it is set to over a said period. The counter argument will be, it doesn’t need to do that because the maths takes care of it.

That my friends is a load of BOLLOX. If that is what people want to believe, good luck to them. It’s far simpler than that and works as I have stated. To make it appear random, the rtp on the day will fluctuate within certain parameters, either side of expected rtp. For example the slot may have a day when it runs at 99% and then have a couple of days at 88% and so on. This is exactly why you get hot and cold days and can’t believe you are playing the same game.

Now because this is how games work, it doesn’t matter how much money you throw at a game on a bad day, you will not see a decent win, simply because they are not available.

This post will get the usual rotten tomatoes from the rose tinted glassers, no doubt. All I ask is, what proof do they have that games are fair and that every win is available on every spin? The answer is, they don’t have any. They just believe what is written on the tin and in an Industry such as gambling, that’s about as naive as you can get.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Yes I feel chop will be here to attend to that post!!

 

[snorky510238]

Yes I feel chop will be here to attend to that post!!

What do you believe? That it does work as were supposed to believe and these sessions (of which you will have witnessed many), where all the spins from hell come in a package are just random bad luck and from what you’ve witnessed, it’s all fair and square or do you think there might be something else intervening, as I have alluded to?

 

[Jono777]

Random slots - yes definatley mate

WITHIN SET or DEFINED parameters. (Which change and fluctuate behind the scenes to suit the provider not the players)

Just like FOBT's which could munch all month and then pay out non stop for a couple of days

Just like fruit machines which once the value had gone, pay limited prizes only as the Jackpots were blocked, it even states this in a round about sort of way on the machines themselves!

There is a word which is on the tip of my tongue beginning with 'C' which describes ALL, yes ALL slot machines, real or online.

Some will argue but I won't argue back as some simply will NEVER be convinced, I know what I see, I agree with Snorky and the simple fact that I got a fair game for years and years and then suddenly shit on royally 9 sessions out of 10 backs up and ensures I will stick to my guns on this one.

 

[itsme123]

So the actual complaints on this thread our a slot/slots that are designed to take my money off me take my money off me?

 

[snorky510238]

So the actual complaints on this thread our a slot/slots that are designed to take my money off me take my money off me?

Nobody is disputing the fact that slots are designed to take money from players. The debate is, do they do it fairly and as stated or is there more going on than most people see?

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Nobody is disputing the fact that slots are designed to take money from players. The debate is, do they do it fairly and as stated or is there more going on than most people see?

HINT - No.

Who knows, maybe 2024 will be the year the lid is finally lifted on Bonanza and its cheating ways!

 

[CongoGB]

HINT - No.

Who knows, maybe 2024 will be the year the lid is finally lifted on Bonanza and its cheating ways!

HINT - it won't, and we'll still be here this time next year with this thread doing exactly the same things as it's done for what, 5 or 6 years now? Maybe 2024 will be when people find something better to do with their time?

(HINT - No)

 

[snorky510238]

With around a 100,000 players per year signing up to Gamstop, (and that will grow massively), the future for the Industry looks bleak, to say the least. With Casinos and Providers having to cut so many corners and rtp to stay afloat (allegedly), it will only be a matter of time before thousands more follow suit. That is surely not a sustainable loss of custom, long term.

The same will happen, as has happened to the UK high street bookies. They rinsed and rinsed their customers until they couldn’t fit any more SE forms in their files. Look at them now, they are finished. Closing in their droves. Online gambling will go exactly the same way within 10 years.

It’s started already, you only have to look at this forum. When I joined, it was a hive of activity. Now you just have us tailenders and that’s it. Pretty much the only new members that post much, need an issue sorting and that’s your lot!

 

[DreddBeat]

After literally thousands of spins over the past couple of days, I'm convinced that the game has been nerfed or BTG have somehow disabled letter D, maybe for periods at a time. I used to hit the GOLD bonus around a 100 spins or so, it seemed reasonable. The past couple of days it appeared to be impossible, like the bonus was disabled. It absolutely would not drop. I had every possible multi tease combination you can imagine. Whenever I went back for another crack, the game would just go into this dead burn phase until my money was gone. It was never like this before. I don't expect to hit the bonus every time I play but something has to give. It really has me feeling suspicious of BTG and whoever else is involved.

 

[Valhalla]

Loving all the big wins so far on this one, thanks for sharing them guys and gals