dave1888

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I don't know if this is good or bad news it depends whos now running it but Mr Smith is being re-branded as Vernons!!

Yes, Vernons that primarily Playtech casino nobody seems to mention any more...Not sure how I feel about this? What does everyone else think?

Certainly massive news though!
 

dave1888

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It's not April yet is it?

No wind up buddy...I know as Mr smith sent me an e-mail asking to do surveys on the new site design it will be 1 of 3 designs with the Vernons logo. I kid you not! Here are the logo designs

Vernons


V
ernons


Vernons
 

dave1888

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As I suspected Vernons is in the Rogue pit!! I wonder what Bryan will do now as Vernons were part of the 10k per month(on JP payouts) scandal..
 

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I liked all ye old download Playtech casinos, and played at Vernons quite a bit. Predominantly with freebies, mind.

They'd like to chuck the odd tenner here and there, and I've had a few good sessions there.

I don't expect this re-branding to be just Playtech though, so the nostalgia only stretches so far. Don't care much for MrSmith or many multi-platform sites so it won't be the same :(
 

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I liked all ye old download Playtech casinos, and played at Vernons quite a bit. Predominantly with freebies, mind.

They'd like to chuck the odd tenner here and there, and I've had a few good sessions there.

I don't expect this re-branding to be just Playtech though, so the nostalgia only stretches so far. Don't care much for MrSmith or many multi-platform sites so it won't be the same :(

No good will come of this....Say bye to those freebies too. It's going to completely change both outfits.
 

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Thanks for the heads up Dave :thumbsup:

An anomaly was detected back on the 5th of August when 'Vernons' appeared to have both a active BML and NetPlay licence. I put it down to the mess which is the UKGC database. Until a few weeks ago PKR was still licensed :eek:

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Will be a shame if Mr Smith goes down the route of joining the NetPlay Group.
 

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Not affecting me personally, I won't promote either and wouldn't put a penny in Vernons with the scam jackpot rule anyway. Did play at MrSmith once upon a time when sister site to Betsafe.
 

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Nor me.

Hated Playtake for years and Mr Smith n co bonus banned me (even tho heavily in the minus) years back so I voted with my wallet.

Maybe Cassava could take em both over :rolleyes: :p
 

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Nor me.

Hated Playtake for years and Mr Smith n co bonus banned me (even tho heavily in the minus) years back so I voted with my wallet.

Maybe Cassava could take em both over :rolleyes: :p

They might as well Jon as this is a collossal miss-step by Mr Smith not good at all!!
 

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Or is it maybe the other way around.....?

Have BML maybe taken over Vernons?

Because I can't see a company like BML selling off one of their sites, and Vernons has been added to the BML license, Not the other way around
 

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Hopefully Vernons is now part of the BML Group, not the other way around. If it's the other way around... :eek2:

I don't get why they would go to the trouble of renaming Mr Smith to Vernons. Both are established, well-known brands, so why not keep both?

That said, the Betsson Group did this once before. when they renamed Harry Casino to Mr Smith in 2014.
 

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That said, the Betsson Group did this once before. when they renamed Harry Casino to Mr Smith in 2014.
That was an "aggressive take-over" as far as I know - they guys at Harry Casino were seriously pissed (and out of a job) when that happened.

@ OP:
How can Mr Smith be "re-branded" as Vernon's, when Vernon's casino has been around for yonks? :confused:
That's a merger, not a re-branding.

Either way, it makes my job easier - one LESS casino to promote!
(Never promoted Vernon's and Mr Smith is a waste of space, along with the other BML casinos).

KK
 

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That was an "aggressive take-over" as far as I know - they guys at Harry Casino were seriously pissed (and out of a job) when that happened.

@ OP:
How can Mr Smith be "re-branded" as Vernon's, when Vernon's casino has been around for yonks? :confused:
That's a merger, not a re-branding.

Either way, it makes my job easier - one LESS casino to promote!
(Never promoted Vernon's and Mr Smith is a waste of space, along with the other BML casinos).

KK

In the survey where I found out about it, it literally said re-branding as Vernons casino KK. Just going by the email I got. :thumbsup:
 

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Surprising read there KK about Harry Casino.

It also explains a lot though as IIRC Harry casino was a pretty decent set up and Mr Smith is a pile of shit.
 

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I don't understand the animosity towards Mr Smith. Only been playing there recently and never had any issues. Payments are super fast (last one was 30 minutes into my Skrill account) and they quite often have decent promotions such as 100 wager free £1 spins on Bonanza on a £200 deposit.
 

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I don't understand the animosity towards Mr Smith. Only been playing there recently and never had any issues. Payments are super fast (last one was 30 minutes into my Skrill account) and they quite often have decent promotions such as 100 wager free £1 spins on Bonanza on a £200 deposit.


My personal gripe is if you take too many of their offers then down comes the ban hammer, regardless if your at a lifetime loss with them. - When speaking with them regarding this (IIRC) they did not come across as being very low roller friendly at all (never have and never will be able to take offers such as you describe)

Also (long time back now) personal experience over CS was super slow (long waiting times on chat, super delay over email responses)

Seems to have a knock on effect quite easily as my very nice (scarce but nice) offers at Betsafe also seem to vanish around the same time!

Others maybe have not (and hopefully won't) suffer as I did but these are my personal reasons for no longer touching this group. :thumbsup:
 
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