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Now i deposit 2x and no win, and i becom a free Bonus $ 10 and i win. Max cash out is $ 50.

I send in all my Documents and the Casino say, ok, Peter you can now Withdrawal.

Ok, i withdrawal all my Balance Money $ 359 an wait 10 business Days.

Now the Casino back all my Money of my Balance and say ,the max withdrawa is $ 50 from the free Bonus.

And the minimum Withdrawal for Neteller is $100. i must deposit then i becom my Money.



THIS IS NOT CORRECT, and Begado Casino is a Devil Casino and no pay out the Money. :mad:



Thanks
 
I think from what I can tell, the OP's big problem is that they want him to deposit first to get the money - and his gripe is that he deposited before he even took the free chip and them asking him to deposit again is upsetting to him.

IMHO, if you have already deposited and then take a free chip, then you shouldn't have to deposit again but most casinos don't agree with me :)
 
Now i deposit 2x and no win, and i becom a free Bonus $ 10 and i win. Max cash out is $ 50.

I send in all my Documents and the Casino say, ok, Peter you can now Withdrawal.

Ok, i withdrawal all my Balance Money $ 359 an wait 10 business Days.

Now the Casino back all my Money of my Balance and say ,the max withdrawa is $ 50 from the free Bonus.

And the minimum Withdrawal for Neteller is $100. i must deposit then i becom my Money.



THIS IS NOT CORRECT, and Begado Casino is a Devil Casino and no pay out the Money. :mad:

You would think Begado and others would stop being so silly. Behaving like this will almost certainly seal their fate when Nevada and other USA online casinos open their doors. Places like this will drop like flies.
 
is a tramp

tramp high level for cash out and lost all the money. casinos whit is ruler:libery slots,begado,slotcash,in others casinos the minimum is 20 or 10 is good
 
Rogue bahaviour 101:

A) Put a maximum on free chips win
B) Put a minimum cashout on free online withdrawal options (Neteller, Moneybooker, etc)
C) Make sure that B is > A

Et voila. Now you don't have to worry about people cashing out on free chips. You can now proceed to spam no deposit free chips offers like there's no tomorrow.
 
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I will in the future no longer play in such a casino.

And advise everyone pays into Begado never get their money if you shall, it takes a long time or you do not get it.

Stay away from these casinos

Thanks to all
 
my experience with Begado (so far)

I was lucky enough to hit for a big number a few weeks ago at Begado (> $5k). Took around a few days to accept my documents and they sent me the first 1k within a week of so. I have another 1k pending right now and I expect to be paid in full in 5-6 weeks.

Not ideal, but I'm fine with that pace as a US player. I only wish I won 50k and had to wait all year :)
 
I was lucky enough to hit for a big number a few weeks ago at Begado (> $5k). Took around a few days to accept my documents and they sent me the first 1k within a week of so. I have another 1k pending right now and I expect to be paid in full in 5-6 weeks.

Not ideal, but I'm fine with that pace as a US player. I only wish I won 50k and had to wait all year :)

Maybe you are a US player but you do have other choices. Miami Club, Buzzluck, Lucky Club. They have the same software, but would pay you within a week or so. So why chose a place that pay so slowly?
If it's the bonuses you're after I suppose you won't have them if you win more. They ban everyone from bonuses sooner or later if they are up or seems to be winning a little too often.
 
I was lucky enough to hit for a big number a few weeks ago at Begado (> $5k). Took around a few days to accept my documents and they sent me the first 1k within a week of so. I have another 1k pending right now and I expect to be paid in full in 5-6 weeks.

Not ideal, but I'm fine with that pace as a US player. I only wish I won 50k and had to wait all year :)

Frankly, if you had won 50K I doubt you would even see a cent of your money given their funding is so tight as to pay only 1K per week. Players should avoid this place IMHO.
 
I play all of them

Maybe you are a US player but you do have other choices. Miami Club, Buzzluck, Lucky Club. They have the same software, but would pay you within a week or so. So why chose a place that pay so slowly?
If it's the bonuses you're after I suppose you won't have them if you win more. They ban everyone from bonuses sooner or later if they are up or seems to be winning a little too often.

Point taken.

I play all of them and yes, I do like the bonuses. If and when they ban me from bonuses, I won't use the bonuses them anymore, but in the meantime I'll enjoy the bonuses.

There are no secrets with this group. They pay $500 -- $1000 per week/10 days. If you don't like that schedule, don't play there, if you are ok with it, enjoy the bonuses.

I'm not saying faster pay is not better, but it is what it is and I am ok with it (doesn't mean everyone has to be).
 
Frankly, if you had won 50K I doubt you would even see a cent of your money given their funding is so tight as to pay only 1K per week. Players should avoid this place IMHO.
You are just speculating - their cash-out schedule has nothing to do with the level of their funding, it's a management policy decision.
As it happens I don't like this policy either, but what really boggles my mind is that even though this group totally stick to the terms and conditions which are clearly stated on their websites, some people still call this "rogue" behaviour!
I just don't get it.

So I agree with you - if people read the T&Cs at ANY casino and don't like something, they should avoid the casino.

KK
 
I think that the rogue behaviour with that, is the reason behind that management policy decision.
Why do they have it? What's in it for them?
...and can that be in any way a positive thing for their customer? I don't think so, so no matter what it says in their T&C's it's the reason behind it that I find bad.
They always pay I don't argue against that, but it's taking way too long.
 
You are just speculating - their cash-out schedule has nothing to do with the level of their funding, it's a management policy decision.
As it happens I don't like this policy either, but what really boggles my mind is that even though this group totally stick to the terms and conditions which are clearly stated on their websites, some people still call this "rogue" behaviour!
I just don't get it.

So I agree with you - if people read the T&Cs at ANY casino and don't like something, they should avoid the casino.

KK

Yes KK, T'is a guess but I believe its an educated guess. The fact that they only pay $1k a week does indicate their funding is tight.Telling you upfront that they only pay $1k is poor behaviour as there are many players who deposit $1k or more in one go and spins of $2-3 are not uncommon so the very least they should do if their cashflow is steady is to provide loyal players with a raised minimum based on their average deposit amounts and average bet size.
 
Yes KK, T'is a guess but I believe its an educated guess. The fact that they only pay $1k a week does indicate their funding is tight.Telling you upfront that they only pay $1k is poor behaviour as there are many players who deposit $1k or more in one go and spins of $2-3 are not uncommon so the very least they should do if their cashflow is steady is to provide loyal players with a raised minimum based on their average deposit amounts and average bet size.

You are not correct here chuchu. I don't like to defend this casino but I have to.
Not everyone's cashout is limited to $1000 per week. Many get's paid much more. They talk about it as a status thing, but the fact is that many people are getting paid more at once, or the total cashout in one go.
 
You are not correct here chuchu. I don't like to defend this casino but I have to.
Not everyone's cashout is limited to $1000 per week. Many get's paid much more. They talk about it as a status thing, but the fact is that many people are getting paid more at once, or the total cashout in one go.

Exactly my point fair lady. If they pay more than $1k a week to loyal players and those with large deposits/bets at the very least this makes them look better than say, Slots Jungle. I thought they are adamant that only $1k per week is paid to any player irrespective of status and this puts them in a poor light.Hiding behind the Ts and Cs is poor form but if they do pay more than $1k a week to many other players they should trumpet it out.
 
You are just speculating - their cash-out schedule has nothing to do with the level of their funding, it's a management policy decision.
As it happens I don't like this policy either, but what really boggles my mind is that even though this group totally stick to the terms and conditions which are clearly stated on their websites, some people still call this "rogue" behaviour!
I just don't get it.

So I agree with you - if people read the T&Cs at ANY casino and don't like something, they should avoid the casino.

KK

I have to disagree. The money no longer belongs to the casino once the player has won it. ANY delayed schedule is really using PLAYER'S funds to provide liquidity to act as a buffer against the peaks and troughs of variance. "Tightly funded" is not the same as "underfunded", it means that rather than use a credit facilty to balance the variance, they borrow players' funds for free.

The other term IS a straight forward rogue practice. It is impossible to withdraw only $50 from the free chip because the min is $100. It is therefore a misleading offer when presented as an opportunity to win. All the player can ever do is play on the $10 till he busts out, no other outcome is possible. They could instead give half as many $20 free chips to players, same amount of bonus, but in a form that makes it possible to cash out the 5x max. If they are so honest, why don't they do this and avoid this issue of "B > A"?
 
While I sympathise with the OP, unfortunately that's how rules work. I can't imagine why a normal employee at Begado would break protocol to satisfy a customer.

I think that since the OP deposited should tell Begado they are a potential customer, and should have given the OP the money, but it comes back to rules and protocol, and I'm sure no one wants to get fired for breaking rules.

If a casino rubs you the wrong way, just choose another one.

Good luck!
 
I had no deposit winnngs 125$ and I wanted to withdrawl them, had to make 20$ deposit before withdrawl and documents had to be sent. All an aLL it took 17 days to get my money to withdrawl. Very bad customer care, live chat was horrible. After all this I got a call from "casino manager" and he explained their policy that withdrawl process takes 7-10 business days :) well... I gratefull I got my money out, but do not recomenned this casino to no one. very bad experience.
 
Personally, I don't see why you even have to withdraw it. Once you clear the WR any money above the $50 max should be removed and what you do with it after that is your own business. Obviously you can't withdraw it but you should be allowed to keep playing with it.

If you have a $100 minimum withdrawal, keep playing until you reach that and if you lose, it was free money anyway.

As for this being "rogue" behaviour, I'm kind of on the fence about it being rogue behaviour because in this situation the player stands to lose nothing. The casino is handing out free chips that are impossible to cash if you win. It's stupid, it's bad management, it will only serve to frustrate potential clients like the OP who will probably never deposit again which is the opposite of what a free chip is supposed to do but in the end the player breaks even and it's the casino that loses.

The reason I'm on the fence about it is because of the handful of people who will go back and make a real deposit to build up a balance high enough to cash out the money won with the bonus and end up losing it all. This is probably the real plan behind the impossible cash out limit and if that's the case then it falls under the rogue category in my opinion.
 
Statement from Bryan re Begado and their group:


Why anyone here is patronizing these casinos - especially those who have a plethora of casinos to choose from - it's beyond me.

It's like some people couldn't care less what to do with their money. Hell, instead of donating it to some clip shot joint, why not donate it here:
https://www.casinomeister.com/donate/


Some affiliates here support and recommend them. However, I would urge anyone thinking about playing there to read the comments and threads here at CM first, along with CMs view, and make a reasonable and logical assessment of their operation.
 
Statement from Bryan re Begado and their group:





Some affiliates here support and recommend them. However, I would urge anyone thinking about playing there to read the comments and threads here at CM first, along with CMs view, and make a reasonable and logical assessment of their operation.


I cant believe the money people deposit at this group. I have seen sites where the players list the amount of deposits so they can claim a bonus. It is sick these large amounts, and its not about the amount its that they would deposit at this group. This is the group that string players along with small payments, and like clock work every few months people don't receive their payments for 1-2 months. Whenever the group has payment problems the rep disappears at whatever site allows these type of games.(think same rep that got kicked off here.) Funniest thing is some of the people that complain about delays and withdrawal limits swear they will never play their again go right back to depositing like nothing happened.

Whenever the group has payment problems the rep disappears during that time(think same rep that got kicked off here.)

Obviously these other sites that allow all these bonuses, reps, and promoting are problems themselves. Money and greed is such a terrible thing. I do not understand how people can promote problem sites, knowing they are an issue. Well I guess I do understand, they probably just don't have morals or ethics. (Whole other topic) Thank God for Casinomeister !
 
I've been paid every time

I have played this casino group many times, and while the payments tend to be slow, I have always been paid. I enjoy this group very much and enjoy taking their bonuses (I also play occasionally without bonuses). They are what they are. I believe it's been documented that they generally pay 500 to 1000 per payment period which can be between 10-14 days. If you are not ok with this, don't play. I am ok with this, so I play. I accept that many players may think this is unacceptable, but, IMHO, the criticism of this group is way too harsh. I've been paid thousands of dollars by them in the past and was paid every dollar even after they had a bit of a trip up last winter and were down for a number of weeks.



I cant believe the money people deposit at this group. I have seen sites where the players list the amount of deposits so they can claim a bonus. It is sick these large amounts, and its not about the amount its that they would deposit at this group. This is the group that string players along with small payments, and like clock work every few months people don't receive their payments for 1-2 months. Whenever the group has payment problems the rep disappears at whatever site allows these type of games.(think same rep that got kicked off here.) Funniest thing is some of the people that complain about delays and withdrawal limits swear they will never play their again go right back to depositing like nothing happened.

Whenever the group has payment problems the rep disappears during that time(think same rep that got kicked off here.)

Obviously these other sites that allow all these bonuses, reps, and promoting are problems themselves. Money and greed is such a terrible thing. I do not understand how people can promote problem sites, knowing they are an issue. Well I guess I do understand, they probably just don't have morals or ethics. (Whole other topic) Thank God for Casinomeister !
 
I'm so glad I don't give my $ to these places - got an email today, reminding me I had $30 in my acct (I wasn't even aware I had an account). I'm broke and bored, and figured I'd spin off the $30 - surprisingly, made the $1800 WR. Here's my live chat:

Please wait for a site operator to respond.

You are now chatting with 'Zachary'

Zachary: Welcome to Begado, this is Zachary. Can you provide me with your User Name and how may I assist you?

x: hi zachary

Zachary: Hi

x: how much of my current balance can i withdraw?

x: acct x

x: thank you

Zachary: Just a moment please.

x: sure

Zachary: Dear x, unfortunately you used a non deposit code for the second time, and you can only use them once, so im really sorry but you cant withdraw your winnings

x: so then why the heck did you send me an email, saying, x, a reminder, you still have 30 in your account>

x: Dearx, We really miss you here at Begado! It has been sometime since you last played with us! I’d like to remind you that you still have money in your account to play and win with !!!. Your balance is: $ 30. We would love to see you back soon ! Please contact customer support for any further assistance. Have some fun! George Taylor Promotions Manager

Zachary: Just a moment please.

Zachary: x, please forward this email to [email protected]

x: done

Zachary: Just a moment please.

x: ok

Zachary: x, i have the email

x: cool

x: please note the part: money in your account to play and win with !!!.

x: in order to withdraw you will need to fill out the faxback form we have on our site - here is the link - <http://www.begado.eu/banking.html>, you will also need to attach a copy of your photo ID, 2 utility bills OR 2 official documents confirming your name at your address and a copy of the front and back of all credit cards used on the site.

x: It takes up to 3-5 business days to approve the faxback and documents (one time only) and then 7-10 business days to approve the withdrawal request.

Zachary: Please send the documents to [email protected]

Zachary: and you will need to make a deposit

x: thanks

x: what is the withdraw max please

Zachary: I dont have that information, our relevant department will contact you after you made you withdrawal request

x: how can i request a withdraw when i dont know what to withdraw?

x: you first seemed to know i couldnt withdraw, surely you must know what i can withdraw

Zachary: Just a moment please.

x: ok

Zachary: x, thank you for your time

x: ok

Zachary: After you send back us your faxback form, and make your first deposit you can withdraw $150 from your winnings

x: ok, thanks



Ya, for $150, to go through an archaic faxback form, plus send in my money, then wait 2 weeks to hope I see it?...er...no
 
I'm so glad I don't give my $ to these places - got an email today, reminding me I had $30 in my acct (I wasn't even aware I had an account). I'm broke and bored, and figured I'd spin off the $30 - surprisingly, made the $1800 WR. Here's my live chat:

Please wait for a site operator to respond.

You are now chatting with 'Zachary'

Zachary: Welcome to Begado, this is Zachary. Can you provide me with your User Name and how may I assist you?

x: hi zachary

Zachary: Hi

x: how much of my current balance can i withdraw?

x: acct x

x: thank you

Zachary: Just a moment please.

x: sure

Zachary: Dear x, unfortunately you used a non deposit code for the second time, and you can only use them once, so im really sorry but you cant withdraw your winnings

x: so then why the heck did you send me an email, saying, x, a reminder, you still have 30 in your account>

x: Dearx, We really miss you here at Begado! It has been sometime since you last played with us! I’d like to remind you that you still have money in your account to play and win with !!!. Your balance is: $ 30. We would love to see you back soon ! Please contact customer support for any further assistance. Have some fun! George Taylor Promotions Manager

Zachary: Just a moment please.

Zachary: x, please forward this email to [email protected]

x: done

Zachary: Just a moment please.

x: ok

Zachary: x, i have the email

x: cool

x: please note the part: money in your account to play and win with !!!.

x: in order to withdraw you will need to fill out the faxback form we have on our site - here is the link - <http://www.begado.eu/banking.html>, you will also need to attach a copy of your photo ID, 2 utility bills OR 2 official documents confirming your name at your address and a copy of the front and back of all credit cards used on the site.

x: It takes up to 3-5 business days to approve the faxback and documents (one time only) and then 7-10 business days to approve the withdrawal request.

Zachary: Please send the documents to [email protected]

Zachary: and you will need to make a deposit

x: thanks

x: what is the withdraw max please

Zachary: I dont have that information, our relevant department will contact you after you made you withdrawal request

x: how can i request a withdraw when i dont know what to withdraw?

x: you first seemed to know i couldnt withdraw, surely you must know what i can withdraw

Zachary: Just a moment please.

x: ok

Zachary: x, thank you for your time

x: ok

Zachary: After you send back us your faxback form, and make your first deposit you can withdraw $150 from your winnings

x: ok, thanks



Ya, for $150, to go through an archaic faxback form, plus send in my money, then wait 2 weeks to hope I see it?...er...no

That's pathetic $150? Thats just bad :eek2: IMO though you should still withdraw, it's still money that you can play somewhere else. I'd withdraw and never play there again, they can payout the whole ammount over piss poor small payments, better in your pocket than theirs.
 
Lol, I'm broke - not that broke. More headache than it's worth in my opinion - looking at the CM threads about this place, not looking for the likely 'ooh, docs no good', 'ID not correct', 'funds in JUST another week'. You're right, it IS free money. If the bf wants to chase it up, he's welcome to, but looking at everything here, I wouldn't give them a nickel of my $.
 
Lol, I'm broke - not that broke. More headache than it's worth in my opinion - looking at the CM threads about this place, not looking for the likely 'ooh, docs no good', 'ID not correct', 'funds in JUST another week'. You're right, it IS free money. If the bf wants to chase it up, he's welcome to, but looking at everything here, I wouldn't give them a nickel of my $.

:lolup: That's absolutely true! Even once you do send them your ID as shady as they are they would probably reject the docs just so they dont have to payout.... God $150? Thats one to avoid.
 
Lol, I'm broke - not that broke. More headache than it's worth in my opinion - looking at the CM threads about this place, not looking for the likely 'ooh, docs no good', 'ID not correct', 'funds in JUST another week'. You're right, it IS free money. If the bf wants to chase it up, he's welcome to, but looking at everything here, I wouldn't give them a nickel of my $.

Maybe you could ask KK if he can help, since he promotes the group heavily.

Perhaps they might agree to pay you in 9 business days rather than 10...who knows??
 
Maybe you could ask KK if he can help, since he promotes the group heavily.

Perhaps they might agree to pay you in 9 business days rather than 10...who knows??

Yes that's a good idea ask KK. He should be able to help as Nifty said KK promotes them :)

Would take them over two weeks for payment once you factor in the five days for document verification.
 
Maybe you could ask KK if he can help, since he promotes the group heavily.

Perhaps they might agree to pay you in 9 business days rather than 10...who knows??


Nifty, I agree with you that KK might be able to help out but you don't have to be so sarcastic do you? He is perfectly entitled to his own opinion though frankly I don't agree with him on this.
 
Maybe you could ask KK if he can help, since he promotes the group heavily.

Perhaps they might agree to pay you in 9 business days rather than 10...who knows??

Excuse my French... But, Laughing My Fugging Ass OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Yes, I do.

Nifty I had no idea ;) That's a shocker :lolup:

I have allot of respect for KK but he does promote African Palace/Indio casino which is rogue here. He also promotes this group. Just saying. I just think Nifty was pointing out that KK promotes these groups heavily. I certainly didnt see any harm :)
 
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Does KK have his own site? If so I must agree that it's a bit disingenuous to promote sites which are NCD/rogue. If and when I have a site I would, to be honest, simply pilfer a list of the accredited sites from here and solely have affiliate status with those. May get a lot less revenue, but I'd rather that than the hassle and accusations which could come from dodgy sites.
 
Does KK have his own site? If so I must agree that it's a bit disingenuous to promote sites which are NCD/rogue. If and when I have a site I would, to be honest, simply pilfer a list of the accredited sites from here and solely have affiliate status with those. May get a lot less revenue, but I'd rather that than the hassle and accusations which could come from dodgy sites.

Yup. It's kasinoking dot co dot uk

He's a nice guy, who has made some poor choices IMO. He used to be my go-to for sites not listed at CM.
 
Yup. It's kasinoking dot co dot uk

He's a nice guy, who has made some poor choices IMO. He used to be my go-to for sites not listed at CM.

I see - thanks.
 
I have allot of respect for KK but he does promote African Palace/Indio casino which is rogue here.
No I don't.
As soon as I found out they were on the rogue list I removed them from my sites.
It WAS an oversight on my part to list them in the first place - I can't explain how it happened because I am normally pretty careful about that.

Does KK have his own site? If so I must agree that it's a bit disingenuous to promote sites which are NCD/rogue. If and when I have a site I would, to be honest, simply pilfer a list of the accredited sites from here and solely have affiliate status with those. May get a lot less revenue, but I'd rather that than the hassle and accusations which could come from dodgy sites.
Once more, I do not promote any casino which is on the rogue list.
I do promote the Win Palace Group because in all my dealings with them they have been always been professional and fair. They are not listed on any of CasinoMeister's Rogue, Not Recommended or NCD lists (except their 2 Rival casinos which were lumped in with all the others on the NCD list due to the idiot actions of Rival themselves, not for anything the casinos did).
The only reason Nifty hates them so much is because of their cash-out policies which he finds unacceptable, as do some other players.
Their policies are clearly stated in their T&Cs, so what I find unacceptable is people agreeing to the T&C's when they sign-up but then moaning about it afterwards.

I am a player myself and I want to give players as much choice as possible - that is what I look for myself in casinos portals.
I only list places where I would happily deposit and play myself (and I often do!).

KK
 
No I don't.


Once more, I do not promote any casino which is on the rogue list.
I do promote the Win Palace Group because in all my dealings with them they have been always been professional and fair. They are not listed on any of CasinoMeister's Rogue, Not Recommended or NCD lists (except their 2 Rival casinos which were lumped in with all the others on the NCD list due to the idiot actions of Rival themselves, not for anything the casinos did).

KK

They really should be on one of the CM's lists. I do agree that their withdrawal procedure is enough to classify them as a Not Recommended at the very least. Actually the lengthy time it takes to get your small withdrawal limit should be considered rogue. Giving a player 10 days or longer to play back your money is as shady as being promised a return on investment from Bernie Madoff.

They may be professional & fair with you as an affiliate, but how about with the players? Every time their is an issue they always play silly little games of deception. The reps that are out there always go into hiding when issues come up, and the customer service gives the runaround. I have seen this on every occasion there is an issue. This group knows they cant afford to lose anyone willing to promote them, hence the professionalism and occasional reach around to their reps.
 
No I don't.
As soon as I found out they were on the rogue list I removed them from my sites.
It WAS an oversight on my part to list them in the first place - I can't explain how it happened because I am normally pretty careful about that.

Umm you must have had another oversight because African Palace/ Indio casino is still on there? Whether you remove them is completely up to you afterall it's your website :) But you said you have removed them and they are STILL listed on your website :what:
 
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