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Your Input Please Are these terms and conditions written correctly?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by catapultaudio, Jan 31, 2016.

    Jan 31, 2016
  1. catapultaudio

    catapultaudio Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Computer Programmer
    Location:
    Leeds, UK
    Hi all,

    So I received an e-mail from a new casino, Kaboo... heard it was something to do with Thrills maybe so figured they would be worth a try especially when I got an e-mail advertising a 400% bonus on deposits up to £100! I decided just to go for £20 for a start balance of £100 after reading the t&c of course.... its stated that I'll need to wager my deposit plus bonus funds 30 times before I can withdraw. Okay, bit of math..... £3,000 I figured ? Heres the screenshot:

    Are these terms and conditions written correctly?: kaboo bullshit tnc.jpg,Jan 31, 2016

    Now I'm doing pretty well with a balance of around £300 after several hours of playing on Friday night, decided I'd check with support where I was at with my wagering in the morning as I couldn't find a button within the interface (There is one its just very well hidden, in the wallet, click withdraw, then click the text that says how much bonus funds you have left.... couldnt be clearer could it???)

    And heres where it gets interesting, I did check the box to get chat transcripts sent to me but they have not arrived (so far) ... I was told my remaining wagering was £38xx.xx (dont remember exactly).. so of course I say whaaaaa... but the t&c say clearly it is 30 times the deposit (£600) plus 30 times the bonus (£2400), where are my sums going wrong? Whilst two different members of staff were not able to explain apparently the t&c above is quite clear that it is infact 30 times d+b plus another 30 time d+b, so actually it was 60x d+b for this bonus. They wouldn't budge or explain the math. What do you think? Can the above T&C be interpreted as 60x d+b by any kind of weird wording or trickery ? Or have I just been played for a fool?

    Regardless I finished with £532, withdrew the lot, and wont play there again unless this matter is resolved satisfactorily. Would be very grateful for your opinions!

    THX
    Catapult
     
  2. Jan 31, 2016
  3. Tirilej

    Tirilej On a Break

    Occupation:
    Breathing
    Location:
    Sweden
    I haven't checked that casino yet. Are there any other rules that should be read also?
    Is there the same wagering for all countries?

    Those you posted clearly say 30x. Really odd if support don't know their own rules.
     
  4. Jan 31, 2016
  5. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

    Occupation:
    International Money Launderer
    Location:
    the bus shelter, opposite GCHQ Benhall
    It clearly says 30 x D+B.

    I have an idea what's happened here, although having said that it doesn't explain you having a wagering remaining of OVER 3000......

    1. Some slots don't contribute, or contribute <100%

    2. There is a GENERAL term which states if a bonus is over 100% the WR is higher - have you checked that out?

    3. The system for calculating remaining wagering is set up on the wrong formula.

    Either way, don't bother again.
     
  6. Jan 31, 2016
  7. spoton

    spoton Senior Member webmeister

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Right behind you
    I would be very careful about playing at that site with a bonus. Had a issue there myself where wagering on one or more slots at this site weren't counted eventhough it wassn't excluded.

    Now they admitted that there was a fault and compensated me, something I'm grateful for, but they have refused to say what kind of error it was, and whether or not they fixed the fault.
     
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  8. Jan 31, 2016
  9. petro

    petro Dormant account, per user request PABnoaccred2 PABaccred

    Occupation:
    N/A
    Location:
    Narnia
    I checked as well.
    Terms say 30xD+B
    Making OPs wagering requirement $3000

    I would avoid this casino until it's fixed. It could be deliberate.
     
  10. Jan 31, 2016
  11. spintee

    spintee Meister Member webby mm2

    Occupation:
    gambler :)
    Location:
    Northants
    I had a go the other day, had a few deposits in the past, Money gone in record breaking time, But I guess thats how the ball rolls,

    As you been told there was a glitch I suppose it doesn't matter now, Not looked at the rules (just main parts) but I know some sites slots count less, Also if you play not aloud games it will increase wager, I do not think this site does it,

    Yes trying to find the wager you have left is like trying to find a needle in a hay stack,
     
  12. Feb 1, 2016
  13. Deeplay

    Deeplay New World Order CAG mm1 webmeister

    Occupation:
    Works For Self
    Location:
    The biG Eu
    30x D + B is absolutley insane no matter how attractive the offer seems. 100% 200% 300% ETC

    Almost guaranteed not to get close to cash out. Thats why these days I rare play with a deposit bonus ever.

    Apart from a few times on the 32red DOTD if its 100% and maybe 1 or 2 others in a given month.

    Just not worth it. So many times seen people get healthy balances only to be killed by the wagering.
    Better off looking for a site that gives decent comp points / cash back incentives and such like.

    Similar to VideoSlots - )

    actually on writing this and thinking about it - im going to do a full month in Feb no bonuses anywhere.
    No matter what they offer and then see how I stand. I cash out more often when not on a bonus thats for sure.

    Maybe others should try it. ?
     
  14. Feb 1, 2016
  15. catapultaudio

    catapultaudio Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Computer Programmer
    Location:
    Leeds, UK
    Yeah I only made it through the 60x d+b by getting lucky betting £3 per spin on Playboy and hitting bonus rounds of over £100 one after the other...

    Reversed £15 tonight as they are taking their time doing my dox and won another £350... could have been £450 if I had been smarter though but still... £20 in, £6000 wagering requirement, £865 out... I'm a happy man :)
     
  16. Feb 1, 2016
  17. petro

    petro Dormant account, per user request PABnoaccred2 PABaccred

    Occupation:
    N/A
    Location:
    Narnia
    Don't count your eggs, they might not pay yet.
     
  18. Feb 1, 2016
  19. trickster

    trickster Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Researcher
    Location:
    Moscow, Russia
    yes it clearly says 30x D + B and I think their error is they counted your £20 as two deposits of £10 each (Can't figure out why when it says "£10 or "more" in their T&C) or may be you deposited using different methods. in that case you will have to wager 30 times for the first d+b then for the second! foe a total of 60x D+B
     
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2016
  20. Feb 1, 2016
  21. catapultaudio

    catapultaudio Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Computer Programmer
    Location:
    Leeds, UK
    I thought this group was regarded as being massivelyrepected and reliable no ? Thrills / Super Lenny etc.....? That saId no response from their rep yet....

    As for two deposits.... well 10x30 is 300 ad 40x30 is 1200 for a total of 1500 wagering. .... if the allowed you to take this offer twice and you choose to do just another ten quid, that's still only 3000 that I can see? It's an error in the terms I'm sure of it. But glad I didn't stop with 3k wagering left and wait to get it sorted out as only had 200 or so at that point !
     
  22. Feb 3, 2016
  23. catapultaudio

    catapultaudio Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Computer Programmer
    Location:
    Leeds, UK
    Well I invited the rep to come and comment here a few days ago with no response so far...

    Annoyingly they are also taking a LONG time to check my documents as well. Day 3 now.... yawn. I really liked the casino itself too :(
     
  24. Feb 3, 2016
  25. Erik

    Erik I-Gaming Industry Representative

    Occupation:
    Affiliate Director
    Location:
    Tel Aviv
    Hi Buddy

    Sorry for not getting back sooner, I will take a look at it right away, I will send you and update as soon as i got some info.

    Regards
    Erik
     
  26. Feb 3, 2016
  27. Erik

    Erik I-Gaming Industry Representative

    Occupation:
    Affiliate Director
    Location:
    Tel Aviv
    Our Bad

    Hey

    I did some snoopin' and the OP is right, the bonus TC was set up wrongly and that is all on us. Super sorry for this and we have sorted it all out now. As a comp we will give all CM members 10 echoes in their account as of tomorrow.

    Regards
    Erik
     
  28. Feb 3, 2016
  29. Tirilej

    Tirilej On a Break

    Occupation:
    Breathing
    Location:
    Sweden
    So you mean the wagering is 60x d+b at that casino? That's a lot!
     
  30. Feb 3, 2016
  31. Erik

    Erik I-Gaming Industry Representative

    Occupation:
    Affiliate Director
    Location:
    Tel Aviv
    Hi

    No , the wager was suppose to be 60x on just the bonus amount for this bonus.

    Regards
    Erik
     
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  32. Feb 3, 2016
  33. dreamguardian1

    dreamguardian1 Senior Member MM PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    Grad Student, Peer Counselor, Org. Ambassador/Pres
    Location:
    San Francisco, CA
    If you deposit oh say $70.00 with a 400% bonus your playthrough amount will be at least $20k. GL your gonna need it if you use that bonus Even if the playthrough is half that you are looking at a $10k+ playthrough which basically means your winnings arent gonna mean crap unless you hit a jackpot and then you are still going to lose most of that to the playthrough Sorry but casino's really get the players money on bonuses. Play with your own money is my motto then any winngs you get is your own and you dont have to worry about it.
     

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