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Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by scrollock, Sep 30, 2005.

    Sep 30, 2005
  1. scrollock

    scrollock Senior Member

    Occupation:
    google
    Location:
    boro, uk
    i've just been spammed by this website

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    every single link in the email forces a download on me

    also the only spam i ever get is from virtual, cool cat etc, etc, is this another of its casinos, i cant find info to suggest it is.
     
  2. Sep 30, 2005
  3. lanidar

    lanidar Dormant account

    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    Avenel, New Jersey
    I'm confused.......
    When I click on that link all I get is:

    gjhgfjh fhgjh ghjg jhgjh

    What makes you think this has something to do with Virtual Casino Group?
     
  4. Sep 30, 2005
  5. scrollock

    scrollock Senior Member

    Occupation:
    google
    Location:
    boro, uk
    hi lanidar, what a great website it is!!

    the only reason why i raise the virtual question is that it is an email address of mine that has only ever been spammed by virtual and associates, no other evidence apart from that.
     
  6. Sep 30, 2005
  7. thelawnet

    thelawnet Dormant account

    Occupation:
    programmer
    Location:
    UK
    I got this too.
     
  8. Sep 30, 2005
  9. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    If you could send me a copy with all headers, I'd like to check it out. Thanks!
     
  10. Sep 30, 2005
  11. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    I have had a ton of spam come from that domain. I just did a search of my email.....I know there were more, but I must not have reported all of them.
    All of the emails have the subject of: "CasinoName" Newsletter - 2005-MM-DD" The ones I did find a trail from are:

    Swiss Casino
    Flamingo Online Casino (Recieved a reply of my abuse report from This email is not visible to you.er casino?)
    Vegas Red
    Casino King
    24kt Gold
    Europa
    Golden Palace (Seems to be a trend here)
    Magic Box
    Casino Tropez


    If you ask me, this is a company hired to do marketing for many, many, many casinos....But here's the twist. They put affiliate codes in the email to make it look like it's an affiliate doing the spamming and not the casino....

    Or maybe it's just me being paranoid? :D lol

    Either way, here's the headers from one of them. Tried to PM it to you, but the message was too long, and I couldn't edit out anymore without killing part of the headers.

     
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2005
  12. Sep 30, 2005
  13. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
  14. Sep 30, 2005
  15. scrollock

    scrollock Senior Member

    Occupation:
    google
    Location:
    boro, uk
    come to mention it, this is email address has been used by me for golden palace, however ive never suffered any spam from any of them or any other playtechs, only spam has been the instantly recognizable virtual spam with its plethora of bonus codes.

    which have now stopped since i complained about them on this board.

    however i guess theres always a first time, perhaps playtech have taken on some ex RTG staff, judging by the way these casinos are acting these days theres no differnece between them now and when the time when RTG was considered rogue.
     
  16. Oct 1, 2005
  17. Agamemnon

    Agamemnon Dormant account

    Some of these casinos are IOG properties.

    Swiss and a few of the others are owned by the IOG group. I'd be very surprised if they're involved in some kind of spamming situation. I've talked to their people in the past and they generally seem quite professional, in fact their casinos are among the few Playtechs I consider playing at.

    Please keep us posted on this situation, if they've chaged their marketing campaign to include spamming...
    then things can't be all fine in the kingdom of Denmark.

    Is it some affiliate doing the spamming or them?
    Are all posts from the same group of casinos?
     
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2005
  18. Oct 1, 2005
  19. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    The reason I believe the groups are doing the spamming directly is because I wrote back to the pitboss asking if it was them spamming and not affiliates...and never recieved a reponse. It was then that I stopped recieving the spam from all the casinos in question. Coincidence? :rolleyes:
     
  20. Oct 1, 2005
  21. Ivy29

    Ivy29 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Internet Time Waster
    Location:
    Midwest
    Amber

    I signed up for Amber for a whoppin free $5 (I was probably broke-ish and desperate that day) and ever since they have spammed me constantly. I have them on block sender so I'm not sure where it comes from, but I see it's still in my junk file about every day or so. I'll check the next one for the source. Since they all go there automatically, I assume its coming from the same place everytime, guessing it's from Amber themselves. Because of their relentless spam I will never deposit there. It's Playtech.
     
  22. Oct 5, 2005
  23. Action-Aff Ian

    Action-Aff Ian Casino Representative

    Occupation:
    Program Manager
    Location:
    Montreal, Canada
    Amber Coast Casino / spam

    Scrollock:

    I am the program director for Action-Affiliates which promotes Amber Coast Casino.

    I have looked at the url you referred to.
    I also cant get anything from this url but a line of gobblydegook.

    I have search our affiliate database, but also cannot reference this url as an affiliate partner of ours.

    Playtech is very concerned with any/all spamming activity directly or indirectly related to any of its licensees.
    As such, we are insistent upon all of our promotional partners observing canspam requirements.
    We are not interested in Amber Coast losing its license.

    If you can obtain more information about the source of this email, I would appreciate it if you could post it here or contact me.

    Thank you & regards,

    Ian Ruckenstein
    Action-Affiliates
    Program Manager
    This email is not visible to you.
     
  24. Oct 5, 2005
  25. scrollock

    scrollock Senior Member

    Occupation:
    google
    Location:
    boro, uk
    hi ian,

    ive just received another one, this time from this address

    This email is not visible to you.

    this appears to be another phony website

    if this is a rogue affiliate, then they seem to be particularly keen to promote your casino, even going to the trouble of setting up different webistes to send out spam for just one casino.
     
  26. Oct 5, 2005
  27. scrollock

    scrollock Senior Member

    Occupation:
    google
    Location:
    boro, uk
    heres the details from the latest one

    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Received: from ip.spreadnewnews.com ([154.37.1.74]) by mc8-f1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 3 Oct 2005 15:46:06 -0700
    Received: from root by ip.spreadnewnews.com with local (Exim 4.52)id 1EMZ4Q-000720-4tfor xxxxxxxxxxx; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:46:06 -0400
    X-Message-Info: 6sSXyD95QpUxO4P4uSPNxTKRMDcO3PHOVPOi1eVhnok=
    X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report
    X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ip.spreadnewnews.com
    X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hotmail.com
    X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12]
    X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ip.spreadnewnews.com
    X-Source:
    X-Source-Args:
    X-Source-Dir:
    Return-Path: This email is not visible to you.
    X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Oct 2005 22:46:06.0452 (UTC) FILETIME=[3D8BC340:01C5C86C]
     
  28. Oct 5, 2005
  29. Action-Aff Ian

    Action-Aff Ian Casino Representative

    Occupation:
    Program Manager
    Location:
    Montreal, Canada
    Spam

    Tks Scrollock;

    I cant find these guys either.
    ...not that I thought I would.

    Btw, and it is in our terms and conditions, anyone caught spamming to promote Amber Coast or future Action-Affiliate brands, will be ex-communicated!
    .........so to speak.

    Regards,

    Ian Ruckenstein
    Action-Affiliates
    Program Manager
    This email is not visible to you.
     
  30. Oct 7, 2005
  31. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Amber Coast

    I have had a crop of these too in the last few weeks. I lost interest on finding out it was Playtech.
    Whether it is spam, or marketing, is an interesting argument. I have occasionally ticked a box to allow some websites to inform me of new online casino promotions, however it is difficult to know whether the mail is being sent with regard to this permission, or is simply sent to a random mailing list.

    I don't agree with automatic downloads though, permission should always be asked, and a link provided. Even if I am actually interested, I do not want to run a download from within Outlook, and I would like to choose the correct location for the file. (I would then look up the casino on here to see what pedigree it has). I have set Outlook to run in my Restricted Zone, this should render such automated downloaders impotent from within Outlook. An "error" window will pop-up, and if you object to the tactic select NO and delete the E-mail. If the same offer is repeatedly sent to the same respondant, it becomes spam, even if permission to inform has been given; and if it prevents you from operating your E-mail account due to too many of them it then becomes effectively a DOS attack on your mailbox. Some ISPs will punish customers for having too much E-mail, and could delete the surplus before you get to see it. The worst attack I have received was 300+ in one single day, plus my usual E-mails. This was due to a spoofing virus generating return alerts to my mailbox. Second worst was The Jackpot Factory server when I joined one of the casinos. It sent me 300+ welcome messages, all the same, one each 10 minutes for a few days. Casino reps could not find out what the problem was - but eventually traced it to an automated task, clearly got stuck in some sort of loop.
     
  32. Oct 9, 2005
  33. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    Location:
    Earth
    QUOTE: I don't agree with automatic downloads though, permission should always be asked, and a link provided. Even if I am actually interested, I do not want to run a download from within Outlook, and I would like to choose the correct location for the file. (I would then look up the casino on here to see what pedigree it has). I have set Outlook to run in my Restricted Zone, this should render such automated downloaders impotent from within Outlook. An "error" window will pop-up, and if you object to the tactic select NO and delete the E-mail. If the same offer is repeatedly sent to the same respondant, it becomes spam, even if permission to inform has been given; and if it prevents you from operating your E-mail account due to too many of them it then becomes effectively a DOS attack on your mailbox.UNQUOTE


    Good post, Vinyl - we have two evils here I think - a damned cloaked spammer (as if that wasn't bad enough) and this automatic download nonsense, which is equally reprehensible. Imagine how much worse the GFED mess could have been if exacerbated with an automatic download !!

    Any site trying to pull an auto-download would get short shrift from me; as far as I am concerned that would be an indicator that the casino involved was unethical and not to be trusted. As has been so frequently said here and on other fora, nothing should be added to your hard-drive without your knowledge and permission.

    I think this casino is owned by European investors although registered in Curacao. What about putting Playtech on the spot with a complaint through their dispute channel - this is clearly promoting one of their licensees and they should be more concerned about it than simply saying they don't know who it is.
     

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