Affactive and Revenue Jet closing - owners facing jail!

KasinoKing

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Just found out about this via Affiliate Gaurd Dog.

Apparently the 2 owners of these 2 groups are... well... in deep shit!
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Other affiliates have said they have received e-mails advising that the programs are closing immediately and not to refer any more players.
I guess we will know for sure in a few days time if these stories are true or just rumours...

As a reminder, the groups are:
Affactive Casinos:
Begado (NuWorks)
Casino Titan (RTG)
Golden Cherry (Rival)
Slots of Fortune (Rival)
Jackpot Grand (RTG)
Slots Jungle (RTG)
WinPalace (RTG)

Revenue Jet Casinos:
Classy Coin (RTG)
Grand Parker (RTG)
Loco Panda (RTG)
On Bling (RTG)
Ruby Royal (Rival)

{Edit} I just got the e-mail too (I'm on their mailing list because I did used to promote them before they turned really bad)
Hi Mark,

Please do not send us traffic as from now on.
Affactive will close its operations as of now.
You can reach me for a short while on this email or by Skype.
I am sorry the way it ends, something out of our control.
I am sure it must be on the forum by now. Get back to me I'll tell you more.
All accounts have been frozen, salaries, affiliates commissions, etc. I don't know if we'll be able to release any funds

Regards,
Eric
KK
 

winbig

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Sounds like they're linked, but honestly, I'd love to see some more proof besides a 1 paragraph article....with no concrete details/evidence...
 

KasinoKing

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Sounds like they're linked, but honestly, I'd love to see some more proof besides a 1 paragraph article....with no concrete details/evidence...
The e-mail I got was definitely from Affactive.
I've met Eric in person several times - the last time being just a month ago at the Amsterdam Conference.

KK
 

Mousey

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I know nuttin about who owns what casino/affiliate thingys, but if you google Gery Shalon Ziv Orenstein you'll find Bloomberg and WSJ (among others) articles with a bit more info.
 

milemaster

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The e-mail I got was definitely from Affactive.
I've met Eric in person several times - the last time being just a month ago at the Amsterdam Conference.

KK
I wonder if they were shut down or if they took their casinos down themselves? The affactive site is up, but none of their casino sites are responding as of now.
 

winbig

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The e-mail I got was definitely from Affactive.
I've met Eric in person several times - the last time being just a month ago at the Amsterdam Conference.

KK
I mean more proof in regards to being tied to online gambling and stuff...the only thing that paragraph does is insinuate that they may be tied together....

found some other sites with very little information, but the consensus seems to be:

U.S. authorities are also conducting an investigation into the illegal online gambling platform. Charges are yet to be filed in relation to the Internet gambling matter.
 

syntynyt

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i don't think they would have been bothered by USA authorities if not linked to the hacking of JPMorgan. i will follow the case to see if 'illegal gambling platform' weighs much and if holy land will grant extradition :rolleyes:. if online gambling presence in the US is considered aggravate felony why they don't fight the cause and not the effect.
i must say that reading the title i thought they are finally punished for stealing deposits and genuine winnings. but by who?
in the meantime lets find Playtech roots for possibilities to correlate similar bad habits and behavior. :sniper:
 

Casinomeister

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I know nuttin about who owns what casino/affiliate thingys, but if you google Gery Shalon Ziv Orenstein you'll find Bloomberg and WSJ (among others) articles with a bit more info.
Well I know - and most people who do know have been quiet for some time. This is the infamous "Gabi" who owned the Affactive group to include RevenueJet - he employed hackers (who were partners with Rushmore casino btw) who had hacked into and stole just about every RTG database, ddos attacked most everyone in the business to include Casinomeister, and tried to extort money from people. The list goes on.

This is a classic case of Schadenfreude. You reap what you sow.

I have kept my mouth shut for the past several years because I've been warned "you don't mess with these guys", and I am one who chooses his battles. But one thing I have done is warn players and affiliates for the past several years that these guys are no good.

Any affiliate who has been promoting these guys - it's your own damn fault that you chose to ignore the signs - and my warnings. Tough titty for you if you don't get paid - you should have known better. Players who are screwed right now - you should chastise the affiliate who sent you into that den of snakes - and then kick yourself for being so stupid. You should have listened to Casinomeister.

Gaby (Gery Shalon) is the guy.

Here's the link from the FBI which details the separate charges and the possible sentencing:
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This one here describes the hacking job in detail:
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Casinomeister

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I should add that the whole online casino aspect of things is peanuts compared to what this guy was into. He's facing hard time for manipulating penny stocks, hacking into millions of US bank accounts. The Affactive and RevenueJet companies were probably just a hobby for him.

Going further with this, it will be interesting to see how this affects other businesses - other online casino entities that he may have had a hand in.
 

Balthazar

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It's been a few times now...and a few hints...so I'm going to ask it once for all:

Is Israel a hotbed for shady online gaming operations?
 

Casinomeister

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It's been a few times now...and a few hints...so I'm going to ask it once for all:

Is Israel a hotbed for shady online gaming operations?
It seems that way, doesn't it? But it could just be a few bad apples...

Actually, this has been going on for some time now, and no one has been able to do a thing. Most operators put up with the database theft and ddos attacks because they were afraid. With a flick of a switch this asshole could shut down your business. And I'm willing to bet that there will be a few more ddos attacks down the road from this guy's "sleeper cells" just to show everyone that he's a big man.

The irony is that there were quite a few affiliates willing to promote these guys all the while knowing that they were shady. I wonder who will be the first to complain? :rolleyes:
 

Casinomeister

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This guy had his hands in a number of "cookie jars". Every so often I'll get emails from disgruntled employees or shafted independent contractors complaining about who they work(ed) for. Sometimes I take these with a grain of salt, but sometimes a number of things ring true.

Here is a except from one of these emails from a couple years ago. This is about Affactive and RevenueJet:

...Now what is most troubling about this company is that they have several of their designers creating mimic (identical) websites of online travel companies, online stores, etc. and once people make a purchase, they steal their money and then take down the website. They open fake Paypal accounts to receive the payments and then close the account so they are untraceable...
 

Biti

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I should add that the whole online casino aspect of things is peanuts compared to what this guy was into. He's facing hard time for manipulating penny stocks, hacking into millions of US bank accounts. The Affactive and RevenueJet companies were probably just a hobby for him.

Going further with this, it will be interesting to see how this affects other businesses - other online casino entities that he may have had a hand in.
I'm sure we've got some interesting months to go. More (rogue) brands will get affected by this.
 

ThePOGG

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The irony is that there were quite a few affiliates willing to promote these guys all the while knowing that they were shady. I wonder who will be the first to complain? :rolleyes:
I've [super big fat] ZERO [/super big fat] sympathy for affiliates that chose to work with this group. It was common knowledge how they treated their players, if affiliates got screwed in the process, well, the phrase 'what goes around comes around' springs to mind.
 

Biti

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I've [super big fat] ZERO [/super big fat] sympathy for affiliates that chose to work with this group. It was common knowledge how they treated their players, if affiliates got screwed in the process, well, the phrase 'what goes around comes around' springs to mind.
I really hope they will be affected too and part of the further investigation too. They choosed to be part of this and promoting this. Well, there they go.
 

ThePOGG

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I really hope they will be affected too and part of the further investigation too. They choosed to be part of this and promoting this. Well, there they go.
Other than not receiving commissions there's no further implications for affiliates. The charges related to market manipulation and insider trading as I understand it. There nothing to do with their casino operations. The closure of the casinos - presuming that these are the people in charge of them - will be related to the freezing of their financial assets.
 
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