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Affactive and Revenue Jet closing - owners facing jail!

Discussion in 'Casino Industry Discussion' started by KasinoKing, Jul 23, 2015.

    Jul 23, 2015
  1. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
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    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Just found out about this via Affiliate Gaurd Dog.

    Apparently the 2 owners of these 2 groups are... well... in deep shit!
    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Other affiliates have said they have received e-mails advising that the programs are closing immediately and not to refer any more players.
    I guess we will know for sure in a few days time if these stories are true or just rumours...

    As a reminder, the groups are:
    Affactive Casinos:
    Begado (NuWorks)
    Casino Titan (RTG)
    Golden Cherry (Rival)
    Slots of Fortune (Rival)
    Jackpot Grand (RTG)
    Slots Jungle (RTG)
    WinPalace (RTG)

    Revenue Jet Casinos:
    Classy Coin (RTG)
    Grand Parker (RTG)
    Loco Panda (RTG)
    On Bling (RTG)
    Ruby Royal (Rival)

    {Edit} I just got the e-mail too (I'm on their mailing list because I did used to promote them before they turned really bad)
    KK
     
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  2. Jul 23, 2015
  3. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

    Occupation:
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    Sounds like they're linked, but honestly, I'd love to see some more proof besides a 1 paragraph article....with no concrete details/evidence...
     
  4. Jul 24, 2015
  5. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    The e-mail I got was definitely from Affactive.
    I've met Eric in person several times - the last time being just a month ago at the Amsterdam Conference.

    KK
     
  6. Jul 24, 2015
  7. Mousey

    Mousey Ueber Meister Mouse CAG

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    Up$hitCreek
    I know nuttin about who owns what casino/affiliate thingys, but if you google Gery Shalon Ziv Orenstein you'll find Bloomberg and WSJ (among others) articles with a bit more info.
     
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  8. Jul 24, 2015
  9. milemaster

    milemaster Senior Member

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    I wonder if they were shut down or if they took their casinos down themselves? The affactive site is up, but none of their casino sites are responding as of now.
     
  10. Jul 24, 2015
  11. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    I mean more proof in regards to being tied to online gambling and stuff...the only thing that paragraph does is insinuate that they may be tied together....

    found some other sites with very little information, but the consensus seems to be:

     
  12. Jul 24, 2015
  13. syntynyt

    syntynyt kuollut

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    i don't think they would have been bothered by USA authorities if not linked to the hacking of JPMorgan. i will follow the case to see if 'illegal gambling platform' weighs much and if holy land will grant extradition :rolleyes:. if online gambling presence in the US is considered aggravate felony why they don't fight the cause and not the effect.
    i must say that reading the title i thought they are finally punished for stealing deposits and genuine winnings. but by who?
    in the meantime lets find Playtech roots for possibilities to correlate similar bad habits and behavior. :sniper:
     
  14. Jul 24, 2015
  15. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Well I know - and most people who do know have been quiet for some time. This is the infamous "Gabi" who owned the Affactive group to include RevenueJet - he employed hackers (who were partners with Rushmore casino btw) who had hacked into and stole just about every RTG database, ddos attacked most everyone in the business to include Casinomeister, and tried to extort money from people. The list goes on.

    This is a classic case of Schadenfreude. You reap what you sow.

    I have kept my mouth shut for the past several years because I've been warned "you don't mess with these guys", and I am one who chooses his battles. But one thing I have done is warn players and affiliates for the past several years that these guys are no good.

    Any affiliate who has been promoting these guys - it's your own damn fault that you chose to ignore the signs - and my warnings. Tough titty for you if you don't get paid - you should have known better. Players who are screwed right now - you should chastise the affiliate who sent you into that den of snakes - and then kick yourself for being so stupid. You should have listened to Casinomeister.

    Gaby (Gery Shalon) is the guy.

    Here's the link from the FBI which details the separate charges and the possible sentencing:
    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    This one here describes the hacking job in detail:
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
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  16. Jul 24, 2015
  17. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    Affactive and Revenue Jet closing - owners facing jail!: 11700944_10155816598745371_7422424247934969391_n.jpg,Jul 24, 2015
     
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  18. Jul 24, 2015
  19. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    I should add that the whole online casino aspect of things is peanuts compared to what this guy was into. He's facing hard time for manipulating penny stocks, hacking into millions of US bank accounts. The Affactive and RevenueJet companies were probably just a hobby for him.

    Going further with this, it will be interesting to see how this affects other businesses - other online casino entities that he may have had a hand in.
     
  20. Jul 24, 2015
  21. conker

    conker Super Moderator CAG MM webmeister

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    There is only one defense that can possibly work for this guy now.

    Affactive and Revenue Jet closing - owners facing jail!: it-wasnt-me.jpg,Jul 24, 2015
     
  22. Jul 24, 2015
  23. Balthazar

    Balthazar The Governor

    Occupation:
    Leader
    Location:
    Woodbury
    It's been a few times now...and a few hints...so I'm going to ask it once for all:

    Is Israel a hotbed for shady online gaming operations?
     
  24. Jul 24, 2015
  25. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    It seems that way, doesn't it? But it could just be a few bad apples...

    Actually, this has been going on for some time now, and no one has been able to do a thing. Most operators put up with the database theft and ddos attacks because they were afraid. With a flick of a switch this asshole could shut down your business. And I'm willing to bet that there will be a few more ddos attacks down the road from this guy's "sleeper cells" just to show everyone that he's a big man.

    The irony is that there were quite a few affiliates willing to promote these guys all the while knowing that they were shady. I wonder who will be the first to complain? :rolleyes:
     
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  26. Jul 24, 2015
  27. maxd

    maxd Complaints (PAB) Manager Staff Member

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    For those wanting a little documentation on this: You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Thanks to The Pogg for getting this to me. :thumbsup:
     
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  28. Jul 24, 2015
  29. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    This guy had his hands in a number of "cookie jars". Every so often I'll get emails from disgruntled employees or shafted independent contractors complaining about who they work(ed) for. Sometimes I take these with a grain of salt, but sometimes a number of things ring true.

    Here is a except from one of these emails from a couple years ago. This is about Affactive and RevenueJet:

     
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  30. Jul 24, 2015
  31. Biti

    Biti Experienced Member webmeister

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    Panama-City
    I'm sure we've got some interesting months to go. More (rogue) brands will get affected by this.
     
  32. Jul 24, 2015
  33. ThePOGG

    ThePOGG Meister Member webmeister

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    UK
    I've [super big fat] ZERO [/super big fat] sympathy for affiliates that chose to work with this group. It was common knowledge how they treated their players, if affiliates got screwed in the process, well, the phrase 'what goes around comes around' springs to mind.
     
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  34. Jul 24, 2015
  35. ThePOGG

    ThePOGG Meister Member webmeister

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    And from the FBI - You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Looks like sentences of 20 years if found guilty......
     
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  36. Jul 24, 2015
  37. Biti

    Biti Experienced Member webmeister

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    Affiliate
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    Panama-City
    I really hope they will be affected too and part of the further investigation too. They choosed to be part of this and promoting this. Well, there they go.
     
  38. Jul 24, 2015
  39. ThePOGG

    ThePOGG Meister Member webmeister

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    Casino Affiliate
    Location:
    UK
    Other than not receiving commissions there's no further implications for affiliates. The charges related to market manipulation and insider trading as I understand it. There nothing to do with their casino operations. The closure of the casinos - presuming that these are the people in charge of them - will be related to the freezing of their financial assets.
     
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