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Discussion in 'Slots Discussion' started by lotusch, Aug 19, 2016.

    Aug 19, 2016
  1. lotusch

    lotusch Megaways Slots, as useless as salt in your coffee webby PABaccred mm2

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    Hi guys,

    I hardly ever play with a bonus but yesterday I decided to take one to extend playtime a bit.
    Deposited €100.00 with a €50.00 bonus attached to it.
    Last few deposits on this casino did not give me anything at all and of course when playing with this bonus one after the other feature was triggered and my balance shot up quite quickly.
    Went from €150.00 to €2100.00 in 30 minutes of play on Novomatic Slots, normally not shy to leave you with 1000+ spins without a feature trigger.

    /tinfoil hat off :p

    Now here are 2 questions:

    1. I think I was still playing with my real money funds (real money is played first) so I wonder am I still able to forfeit the 50 Euro bonus money and jump out of this 30x B&D WR? I know I did this at Vera&John once where I was still able to forfeit bonus as all wins were made with my real money balance...But casino in this case is Energy Casino so I have no clue if they handle different rules...Not clear in T&C's, all it says is real money funds are played first.

    2. If I still need to go through WR,out of 4500 Euro I still have to wager 3800 Euro with a 2100 Euro bankroll...Any tips how to proceed,what stake sizes and which slots?

    EXCLUDED are: Koi Princess, Blood Suckers, Lucky Angler, The Wish Master, Devil's Delight, Dead or Alive, Kings of Chicago, Simsalabim, Victorious, Forsaken Kingdom, Castle Builder, Ladies Nite, Stardust, Peek-A-Boo

    Except above I can pick any MGS / Netent / Novomatic slot available.

    Like I said I seldom play with a bonus so I have no clue how to proceed and how to turn this into a possible WD.
    Was thinking maybe to start doing 3 Euro spins on MGS 243 liners and hope for a nice decent big win or just go "safe" and play Netent slots...

    Whatever the outcome,will get helluva playtime for my 100 Euro deposit!! :D:D:D
     
  2. Aug 19, 2016
  3. Harry_BKK

    Harry_BKK Senior Member CAG mm1

    Occupation:
    job is OK
    Location:
    Balcony


    1.
    Energy does not allow forfeiting bonuses and cashing out the balance until WR is met. If you forfeit, all winnings will be gone. Had something similar happening just 2 months ago. I too rarely take bonuses and on this day i just couldn't lose. :rolleyes:

    2.
    I played my favorites to get through WR: TS2 and IR ... had then a 4-reel WD on IR and ended with a balance just below 5K USD.

    Good luck and have fun. :thumbsup: :D
     
  4. Aug 19, 2016
  5. Jd666

    Jd666 RiffRaff CAG mm4

    Occupation:
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    Location:
    Republic Of West Yorkshire
    Im sure you are tied in at Energy.

    I would PM the rep to make sure.

    But if you are, then i would do the same thing, have a blast on the 243 wayers, although i personally wouldnt do 3 quid but thats your choice as you have a big balance. Actually i may do but i probably wouldnt have got up to that balance in the first place.

    You're going to come out on top anyway
     
  6. Aug 19, 2016
  7. incrediblestuff

    incrediblestuff SearchingForTheHolyGrail! CAG webmeister

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    Hmm, i'd start playing Real Steel or BDBA at 45 or 90p a spin, invest 500,- on those bet's and either get a decent return, or a massive win if your lucky..

    If you get a bad run and lose the whole 500,- then i'd skip to slots like Starburst (50p), Gold Factory, Wild Turkey, Drive MM, and such..

    Those are slots that have at times cleared whole WR's for me. They are no guarantee ofc, but on average i get the best playtime on those (and DOA of course, but that's excluded)

    Of course it may be worth if you first check with support about the forfeiting of the Bonus and cashing, that would be even better:)
     
  8. Aug 19, 2016
  9. spoton

    spoton Senior Member webmeister

    Occupation:
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    If you want to play safe, go for a low-variance type of slot like Starburst or so and keep bets low. Statistically you should loose around 150 Euros for a machine with a 96% RTP wagering out the bonus, but of course you never know if the variance goes in your favour or the casinos.
     
  10. Aug 19, 2016
  11. vorcirion

    vorcirion Experienced Member

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    Just don't make too much lower bets than you started with. It's usually forbidden if you started with like 5€ bets and suddenly go to some 0,5€ bets just to clear the wagering requirements. You have really health balance for that kind of wagering amount so I wouldn't worry too much what to play :) Play what you enjoy playing and almost for sure you'll get like 1,5k withdrawal even if things don't go too well with other slots.
     
  12. Aug 19, 2016
  13. Harry_BKK

    Harry_BKK Senior Member CAG mm1

    Occupation:
    job is OK
    Location:
    Balcony
    Energy bonus T&C's are very clear:

     
  14. Aug 19, 2016
  15. lotusch

    lotusch Megaways Slots, as useless as salt in your coffee webby PABaccred mm2

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    Thanks for all advices guys..Max bet is 5 Euro a pop..Got this balance with just 2 and 3 Euro bets on Novo slots...Will start my quest tonight... :)
     
  16. Aug 19, 2016
  17. lotusch

    lotusch Megaways Slots, as useless as salt in your coffee webby PABaccred mm2

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    Yeah seen that..So making WR it is lol.. :)
    Don't see the point of playing real funds first though..If u need to clear WR anyway..
     
  18. Aug 19, 2016
  19. Harry_BKK

    Harry_BKK Senior Member CAG mm1

    Occupation:
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    That has always been the norm. All MG download bonuses work like that, first play with cash balance then with bonus.

    Probably some accounting thing as they pay some percentage to the games suppliers for bonus chips.
     
  20. Aug 19, 2016
  21. lotusch

    lotusch Megaways Slots, as useless as salt in your coffee webby PABaccred mm2

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    Spoke to my Energy VIP manager and he confirmed indeed I have to make the WR regardless of the fact I didn't dip into the bonus funds yet.
    Thanks again for all the advice guys.
    Will have a run for it tonight and will post result after done.

    If I even make the WR and be able to cash out a few hundred would be awesome.

    I will defo give it a good go. :thumbsup:
     
  22. Aug 19, 2016
  23. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    Wolverhampton
    Whatever you decide, I wish you the very best of luck.

    Only advice I will offer is don't stay on any one game too long (unless its paying like crazy of course) I've been in similar positions, big bankroll, lots of WR in the past and 'hung on in there' on a particular game too long and the withdrawal has ended in disappointment.

    Mix it up a bit and play some games you've not played for ages or maybe never played, £1-£2 spins but as I say no more than say 50 spins.

    You could even try my old '20 and move on' wagering system where you list say 30-40 slots before you start, do a count of 20 spins and then move onto the next slot on the list, only exception is if you trigger a feature or hit a win over 20x you restart the count to 20 from scratch.

    Had some fun with this 'system' over the years and results, although never life changing have always proved more positive than not.

    Enjoy, look forward to a great result and some screenies later :thumbsup:
     
  24. Aug 19, 2016
  25. nachhaltig

    nachhaltig Experienced Member

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    Location:
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    I think this is a very good strategy. I took the energy 50% bonus on wednesday and was in the position to have a bankroll of 300€ and still had to wager 3500€ (deposited 100€ +50€bonus initial bankroll). I was playing between 50-100 spins on TS2, IR, Jurassic Park, GOT 243, Playboy, Jack and the Beanstalk, Drive MM, Creature from the Black laggon and Secret of the Stones on minimal Stake. If there were 50-100 Spins without any decent win I changed the Game. I was able to withdraw 500€ after completing the WR.

    Good Luck!
     
  26. Aug 19, 2016
  27. slotter999

    slotter999 Senior Member

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    UK
    3800 wagering with a 2300 bankroll should almost definitely result in a cash out. As others have said mix it up and don't get too deep on any one machine. And avoid novomatic ;-)

    Good luck and let us know how you get on.
     
  28. Aug 19, 2016
  29. conker

    conker Senior Member CAG MM webmeister

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    please, please, please let us know how you get on Lotusch, I have fingers and toes crossed for you as I appreciate what an annoying predicament this is. Why is it always the case that you have a crazy winning streak the one time you take the bonus???....

    I don't know if Energy do it, but I always like casinos that make it very clear how far you are through the WR.
     
  30. Aug 19, 2016
  31. suomikala87

    suomikala87 Senior Member PABnoaccred webmeister

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    I'd side with Harry here. Play the games that you usually enjoy and have fun.

    Best of luck :thumbsup:
     
  32. Aug 19, 2016
  33. The Viking

    The Viking Ueber Meister MM

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    i second that as well i always play games i enjoy:) thats why i did the deposit in the first place, good luck

     
  34. Aug 19, 2016
  35. lotusch

    lotusch Megaways Slots, as useless as salt in your coffee webby PABaccred mm2

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    Yeah I can follow the progress of the WR quite easy in "my account" menu. :thumbsup:
     
  36. Aug 19, 2016
  37. lotusch

    lotusch Megaways Slots, as useless as salt in your coffee webby PABaccred mm2

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    Thanks my friend. :thumbsup:;)
    I know you take the reload bonus from time to time at Energy Casino when I see you streaming so I know it is doable.

    But it remains weird that in a good few consecutive deposits I could not hit a penny and on my last deposit for this particular session I thought,ah well fek it let's take the bonus just for once to extend playtime and seriously ALL Novomatic slots dished out a bonus game within 10-25 spins!!

    Lady Luck
    Book of Ra
    Captain Venture
    Bugs n Bees
    Quest for Gold
    Carribian Holidays
    Pharao's Gold

    This is highly highly unlikely on Novo slots to trigger that many FS on consecutive games in such a short time span.

    But again,I hope I can make the WR and cash out a decent amount.

    Will indeed stay away from Novo now and stick to Netent and MGS.
     
  38. Aug 19, 2016
  39. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    its just changed to a £5 max bet , i played the other day on reel king hit it up to £6 a spin it prompted me to say its over the bonus thing , alarming it still played the spin , so be warned although it states different it clearly still accepts your bet.
     

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