32 Red Very Disappointed !

[brutaldeluxe]

No I don't think the CS rep did anything which would be even close to warrant being fired.

OK I see Tennis Balls is branding me Angry Hank now and I have no wish to continue posting if I am just going to be mocked. Disagree with me sure but there is no need to get so personal about it. You aren't exactly encouraging new members to post. You make it seem like it's a crime to have different view point to your own.

I'll say thankyou to people who posted on this thread with a fair view. I don't just mean the people who agreed with me btw, the people who could see both sides but didn't have to resort to insults, appreciated

I'm off now before I get any more abuse. I'll be sure never to dare post a complaint without sending 1000 PMs first in case I am seen to be an ass again.

Adios amigos.

 

[henryVIII]

Ummmm, number one I NEVER called Brutal a moron....go back and read the posts. I never used any derogatory term to describe him/her.

Second, I never asked you "what the fuck" your problem was. I said the whole thread was "fucking unbelievable". If you're going to quote me, please get it right. I simply asked what your problem was, no adjective included.

Third, believe it or not, no I'm not affiliated with King Neptune's or any other casino, and I don't play there either. Why would you find it so hard to believe that I could just be fed up with people wasting space, time and energy and "using" this forum for a purpose it wasn't meant for. That KN thread was nothing more than blackmail (IMO). And again, I'll ask the question, why do the regulars here never seem to post complaints? Slotster, tennis_balls, winbig, myself, Macgyver (just to name a few)....none of us are affiliates, nor do we "work" for any of these casinos.

I really think you should go back and read the first page again, because I never insulted anyone...I merely alluded to the fact that this was yet another worthless thread, that could have been resolved privately and with a lot less fuss.

Edited to add: I'm done, knock yourselves out. I'm just glad to see that 32Red didn't disappoint..and once again went above and beyond what would normally be expected.

OK, I quoted a misquote there (if that makes sense) I apologise ...

... oh, wait a minute, you qouted the guy calling him a moron and posted ditto (with an exclamation mark) ...

... and what does ditto mean .... I say the same, I believe is its meaning.

So, actually, you did (but I take your point)

And, yes, the full quote was "absolutely fucking unbelievable. Henry, what is your problem?" ... so much nicer dont you think?

All the rest stands.

But, again, you cant offer any reasons.

You then say "Slotster, tennis_balls, winbig, myself, Macgyver (just to name a few)....none of us are affiliates," .... if I was a gambling man (which i am ) I would place a hefty wager on that not being true. (unless you are saying JUST this particluar one at this particluar moment and leave a deliberate ambiguity standing ... but, no, I am sure you are not trying to mislead).

Any answers to my points?

 

[tim5ny]

She's like a pit-bull Henry! I fear for your safety!

Rest in pieces, Tim

 

[tennis_balls]

OK I see Tennis Balls is branding me Angry Hank now and I have no wish to continue posting if I am just going to be mocked.

stop flattering yourself! there is only one angry HankVIII

 

[Slotster!]

For what it's worth (why am I even bothering to justify myself!??) I've never earned a penny as an affiliate of 32RED... They've been great to me CS/Bonus wise - and I've been great to them deposit wise

Just a happy customer.

Brutal - That's a staggeringly good result... There is not one other casino out there that would come anywhere close to that. Swallow your problems and fire it into Thunderstruck at 45 a spin - see if you can turn it into 30,000...

 

[Pinababy69]

"Ditto" referred to the part of the quoted post (which I bolded) where the poster mentioned having to send in copies of a bank statement, etc. in a similar situation. I was agreeing that this had also happened to me in the past, I actually had to copy and paste my online CC statement twice and email it to the casino in question on subsequent days. FYI.....in that instance, it took days for the situation to be rectified and I certainly never started a thread here complaining about it. Was I annoyed? Absolutely, but I dealt with it. And it wasn't 32Red, BTW.

In reference to the poster's names I mentioned, they can vouch for themselves...but as far as I know, none of them are affiliates. As a matter of fact, Macgyver is a self-professed bonus hunter. If anyone should have had problems, you'd think it would be him. I had previously mentioned KasinoKing in another post (as a regular here), but deliberately left him out as he IS an affiliate, with an active website. My whole point is how many complaint threads do you see started by people who have a "history" here (for lack of a better term)? I'd lay money that some of them (myself included) have hit some bumps along the way, but we choose to use the resources that this forum offers. Posting complaints should be a LAST resort, not an opportunity to try and make a reputable casino look bad...which is what I see happening more and more.

As to the context of my "fucking unbelievable" quote, again you are taking it out of context. It was in reference to the thread. Asking you what your problem was...was in reference to the dripping sarcasm and venom towards the casino emanating from every one of your posts.

 

[soflat]

I'm off now before I get any more abuse. I'll be sure never to dare post a complaint without sending 1000 PMs first in case I am seen to be an ass again.

Adios amigos.

If you do post a complaint again, then I suggest 1) you state how you would like it resolved and 2) you notify the casino rep so he/she can facilitate it.

You got a lot out of this and were able to criticize those who were trying to remedy your situation;, but you are still not satified. If you had followed those two common sense suggestions you could have had a satisfactory outcome.

 

[henryVIII]

For what it's worth (why am I even bothering to justify myself!??) I've never earned a penny as an affiliate of 32RED... They've been great to me CS/Bonus wise - and I've been great to them deposit wise

Just a happy customer.

Brutal - That's a staggeringly good result... There is not one other casino out there that would come anywhere close to that. Swallow your problems and fire it into Thunderstruck at 45 a spin - see if you can turn it into 30,000...

I take your point slotser.

However, what confuses a lot of people is that "the elite" posters she mentions are affiliates (OK, maybe not for every casino mentioned in the forum) and so often have difficulty in seeing casinos from a purely customer only position.

And because they are the main posters here, any new poster like the OP here can suddenly find themselves faced with being called a moron, stupid, an ass, etc etc.

Complaining about some casinos is just not tolerated by some posters here. They get very angry in fact.

 

[Macgyver]

You then say "Slotster, tennis_balls, winbig, myself, Macgyver (just to name a few)....none of us are affiliates," .... if I was a gambling man (which i am ) I would place a hefty wager on that not being true. (unless you are saying JUST this particluar one at this particluar moment and leave a deliberate ambiguity standing ... but, no, I am sure you are not trying to mislead).

I'll take that bet if you're referring to me ... because you'll lose.

You seem to think you know an awful lot about me (again, if I'm lumped in with your repeated references to "elite" posters). I am not, and have never been, an affiliate of any casino.

PM me for my NETeller email for payment on the bet.

 

[winbig]

You then say "Slotster, tennis_balls, winbig, myself, Macgyver (just to name a few)....none of us are affiliates," .... if I was a gambling man (which i am ) I would place a hefty wager on that not being true. (unless you are saying JUST this particluar one at this particluar moment and leave a deliberate ambiguity standing ... but, no, I am sure you are not trying to mislead).

Any answers to my points?

wtf? I will give you $1M USD if you can prove that I have an affiliate account _anywhere_ with any casino|poker room|sportsbook|etc.

 

[henryVIII]

OK, it appears you have misread the post.

The quote says "none of us" ... which is not mcgyver alone or winbig alone .... and for the record I did not bring your name into it, pina baby did, I have not in fact named anyone other than in replying with quotes.

So, none of those listed are affiliates ... you are saying none of them are? Or have I misunderstood?

 

[Simmo!]

So, none of those listed are affiliates ... you are saying none of them are? Or have I misunderstood?

I'm both a player and an affiliate and I backed the poster. Many players here backed the casino; most affiliates are players. That whole "affiliates will always back the casino" argument is just a cheap shot used by some people as a method to try and discredit other's opinions and divert attention from a weak argument.

Yes you get some impartial affiliates. But there are impartial "non affiliates" too. It's the way the world works. Lots of people have axes to grind but you only need a moderate level of intelligence to work out who's who. Usually just clicking the "Find All Posts By..." is enough to get a feel for the poster's agenda if one exists.

Anyway, I think this one has resolved itself to everyone's satisfaction. Well, everyone actually affected by the issue at least. I'll close the thread in a couple of hours before it continues to refuel itself.

 

[henryVIII]

I'm both a player and an affiliate and I backed the poster. Many players here backed the casino; most affiliates are players. That whole "affiliates will always back the casino" argument is just a cheap shot used by some people as a method to try and discredit other's opinions and divert attention from a weak argument.

Yes you get some impartial affiliates. But there are impartial "non affiliates" too. It's the way the world works. Lots of people have axes to grind but you only need a moderate level of intelligence to work out who's who. Usually just clicking the "Find All Posts By..." is enough to get a feel for the poster's agenda if one exists.

Anyway, I think this one has resolved itself to everyone's satisfaction. Well, everyone actually affected by the issue at least. I'll close the thread in a couple of hours before it continues to refuel itself.

I think myself and a few others are in the middle of something.

Do you want me to start a new thread to discuss all this?

I dont know what the hurry to shut down the most viewed current thread on the forum?

 

[Simmo!]

I think myself and a few others are in the middle of something.

Do you want me to start a new thread to discuss all this?

I dont know what the hurry to shut down the most viewed current thread on the forum?

Well the issue is resolved, it wasn't even a particularly important one in the first place, and the odd post aside, the last few pages of posts are all related to who said what to whom and how, so it is just heading into personal territory now. By all means continue but I'd suggest another thread, maybe in Wild Cards or this forum if you feel its more relevant.

I'll even suggest a title: "Who said what to whom and how" In case you hadn't guessed, I'm not a fan of (unconstructive) negativity, slanging matches and witch hunts but hey, whatever floats your boat.

And it's only the most viewed thread because everyone's worried they're being slagged off in public incidentally. Nothing to do with the original complaint.

 

[Macgyver]

IBTL (or "in before the lock")

Pina may have named me in that statment(which I don't mind in the least), but you're (you referring to HenryVII) the one who posted the willingness to bet that her statement was untrue.

Be a little more specific in your accusations and maybe people won't call you on it.

 

[tennis_balls]

can't we all get along?

BTW simmo!..........you're chubby!

 

[henryVIII]

True, but even the original post was remark on a players "dissapointment" ... it wasnt even a complaint.

He then got literally abused for posting it. Moron, ass, stupidest thread of 2006, etc.

Now, pina baby made the point that the "regular" posters are all of a similar mindset to such issues.

Which kind of leaves the forum in a state where only maybe 20 people can post unmolested.

I think this is not a good thing. Its already being referred to as the affiliate zone by other forums.

As for the 'slanging matches', 'name calling', etc ... well, its only the regulars who have actually done any of this ... (tennis balls just sent me a message to call me a moron for example ... which is kind of amusing I admit).

Personally, I would have thought you'd be happy to have it addressed out in the open.

By closing this thread, it just leaves the same problem hanging up there and it will resurface and disrupt another thread ... more new posters will be personally abused by the "regulars" for, esentially, not "fitting in" with their idea of how customers should think and express themselves.

May as well make it a private forum for "regulars" only with the same opinions as them.

 

[henryVIII]

IBTL (or "in before the lock")

Pina may have named me in that statment(which I don't mind in the least), but you're (you referring to HenryVII) the one who posted the willingness to bet that her statement was untrue.

Be a little more specific in your accusations and maybe people won't call you on it.

OK, mcgyver ... Ill rephrase it for you.

Pina baby says that not one of the names she mentioned are affiliates.

I dont think this is true.

The reason I dont think it is true is because one of those persons has actually posted about their own affiliate website elsewhere.

Hence, that is why I said I didnt think it was true.

I dont want your money but I just wanted to correct something which wasnt true.

Further, its not even a big deal being an affiliate ... I use them myself!!

It is only relevant to the fact that a new poster has met with such blatent hostility in making a post expressing "disappointment" in a casino's handling of a matter.

How inflamatory is that? Enough for him to be labbelled a moron, ass, son of a bi***, **shole, etc.

Why would he ever post here again?

Why should any new poster want to take a chance?

 

[tennis_balls]

more new posters will be personally abused by the "regulars" for, esentially, not "fitting in" with their idea of how customers should think and express themselves.

May as well make it a private forum for "regulars" only with the same opinions as them.

Hank. Let me assure you that even if you were the leading poster on this forum, I would continue to ride you for your weak takes.

 

[Simmo!]

I think this is not a good thing. Its already being referred to as the affiliate zone by other forums.

Ah there's always sniping on other forums...that's just par for the course from some places. I could name at least three forums that thrive off slagging CM, usually whipped up by the same people But once again most people know who's who and it is good entertainment at times.

But you're right in that this thread has had its share of name-calling which is sad IMO.

This problem will come up over and over. You ain't ever gonna "solve" it - not now, nor tomorrow. So why drag it out? All we're all achieving now is winding each other up

( 30 minutes left )

Cheers,

Chubby!

 

[henryVIII]

Fair enough simmo ... and I appreciate the forum in question may be motivated by seeing this one as competition .... but its neutral "players only" forums also now.

You say what to do? Well look at tennis balls post above yours. Do something about that would be a good start.

That is exactly the kind of thing that should be addressed.

If you want more than 20 people posting on here regularly then you need to sort him out.

But, yes, OK, its your forum ....

 

[henryVIII]

OK, close the thread now ...

... guess, well have to start all over again in another thread soon ...

The "regulars" have gone quiet though havent they?

 

[Simmo!]

But, yes, OK, its your forum ....

Not until my World Domination Plan kicks in in 2007 unfortunately but then...muhahahaha

That is exactly the kind of thing that should be addressed

And yeah - this is why I want to close the thread.

Seriously - there is room for debate I fully agree, and derogatory comments don't help anyone. The world needs different opinions, but at the same time, respect for those opinions should be considered.

Healthy debate? Yeah bring it on! Arguments? Waste of time.

 

[Pinababy69]

Now, pina baby made the point that the "regular" posters are all of a similar mindset to such issues.

Which kind of leaves the forum in a state where only maybe 20 people can post unmolested.

I think this is not a good thing. Its already being referred to as the affiliate zone by other forums.

What I said was that the regular posters here don't post complaints (as a rule). I think my exact words were that many of them have probably hit bumps in the road, but use the resources of the forum the WAY THEY WERE INTENDED TO BE USED. That means PM'ing a rep if there is one, giving a casino a reasonable amount of time to rectify a problem and posting as a last resort.

The affiliate zone? That's funny. And I guess you didn't read too many of my posts where I was all over affiliates regarding the Jackpot Factory mess back in May, did you? I hardly think I made any friends in that group of people, but I didn't make any enemies either. Alot of different opinions got expressed.

And Simmo, you're right. We don't need another discussion on it...what's the point? You're an affiliate...no, I'm not...yes, you are.....no, I'm not. You get the drift. If you side with a casino, you're an affiliate, end of story. There are no evil players with hidden agendas, only thousands upon thousands of evil casinos.

 

[Simmo!]

OK, close the thread now