William Hill's new casino is an outsourced joke

It matters not whether you have 1 share or 49% of available shares - if you do not have majority control you are not the owner and you do not generally get to manage the affairs.

Let's say you bought 24% of shares in MGM Mirage. Does that make you an owner, or manager?


Spearmaster with respect I don't think you fully understand how big public companies are run. If say you had 24% of William Hill you would have a huge say in big decisions. Infact if one body or person owned such a big chunk it would likely deter others from investing. Far from not mattering, it matters enormously if you have 1% or 10% of a big public company.

If you had 10% of William Hill you would have a big say in how the company was run because you would only need a few fund holdings to come in with you to get things through. You don't need anything like 51% with public companies because so many of the shares are held in small percentages by funds.

As for William Hill there may be more to it than meets the eye. I don't know the financial side of it but choosing Playtech looks a smart move. Maybe they plan on reviving and improving these brands. To me it looks like they are thinking about Poker more than casinos with this. Playtech is the coming thing for poker and if the USA players come back in then they could be well placed to re launch these brands. It is funny that Prestige is a rogue casino because it always had a good reputation as a poker site.

Crypto has given up on poker so you have to think that Playtech could get a stranglehold what with the MG offering being so feeble. Maybe this is behind their thinking?
 
Spearmaster with respect I don't think you fully understand how big public companies are run. If say you had 24% of William Hill you would have a huge say in big decisions. Infact if one body or person owned such a big chunk it would likely deter others from investing. Far from not mattering, it matters enormously if you have 1% or 10% of a big public company.
With all due respect, I think I have a damn good idea how public companies are run.

A huge say does not equal absolute control under any circumstances - this is what I have said from the start.

Influence <> control.
 
It will come as no surprise that William Hill appear to have started spamming.

I received the following email today:

From:
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Subject: Will Hill

Dear Player,
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Kind Regards,
William Hill Casino Club Management






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Note that they do not have my name. I am not sure the source of this, but it constitutes spam, and it appears to originate from cpays/William Hill.
 
Well, the new owners need to address this ASAP, or the consequence will be that players will believe the new owners intend to continue to operate the spam based marketing they have inherited from the old Cpays system.

Most of my spam seems to be for Prestige casino, and I only ever received two for William Hill that came from spam. They have my name and email since I had an account at the old Cryptologic William Hill casino, and send me specific emails based on that for the new William Hill casino - I do NOT consider these as SPAM since they are derived from my membership of the casino. I would not be pleased if it turned out that they populated the bulk sending lists with email addresses gathered from player databases from the old William Hill casino and sportsbook, and would be taken as a breach of trust to keep my details within William Hill, and only email me directly.

Since it is not possible to subscribe to these bulk mailings, then it is impossible for the group to offer up a defence to charges of spam that the recipient has given permission through actively opting in. The only test now is whether opting out actually works, although the danger is that this process is discredited as it is often used simply to verify an active email address.
 
One of my friends plays (or used to LOL) at lot on William Hill casino, but since the change he finds the website so complicated he has given up and moved to Ladbrokes which in his words "Is 100 times easier to use, easier to get money in and out of, and better overall"

I have previously ventured on to their casino site and its a mess. Deposit money to William Hill and theres every chance it will take you half an hour to figure out how to get it to the casino you want to play in. And thats before this new cr@p.

Sod that
 
I am having no trouble logging in and playing at the william hill crypto download casino. I hope they don't ditch the cryto casino altogether. The playtech one seems to be called WIlliam Hill Club Casino or something like that, so I hope it means it will be a seperate casino from their current crypto one and exist alongside it.

I will stop playing in their casino if they go playtech exclusive. As although I like the playtech games, I hate those terms and conditions, they seem to be copy and pasted straight from Amber Coast or some dodgy casino like that.

It will be sad, at the moment on the crypto casino all games contribute towards bonus wagering requirements, and the bonus structure is pretty good. On the playtech casino the only games that count towards bonus wagering requirements are non-progressive slots, which sucks. And the William Hill crypto allows roulette at 10p a spin and european blackjack at 10p a hand. Which means I can afford to play at a cryptologic casino, as I don't play at intercasino anymore as the minimum bets are just too high...

However, the William Hill skill games part of their website is good, and the tournaments are fun. The vegas part of their website offers decent roulette and blackjack as well, with play on these games being part of a monthly bonus wagering requirement. So will continue to play at these if they ditch crypto and avoid the new playtech powered one. I just hope they don't ditch all of it to become playtech exclusive, that would be a tragedy.
 

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