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Why Vote for Senator Obama?

Discussion in 'Political Rants' started by bryand, Sep 16, 2008.

    Sep 16, 2008
  1. bryand

    bryand Beach Bum PABnonaccred mm1

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    Time for a serious discussion. After all, the fate of a nation may rest in the balance. I am constantly being bombarded by the liberal press about CHANGE. Obama's campaign is all about CHANGE. Great. Would someone kindly explain, specifically, what changes Mr. Obama proposes to make? And, for any change that requires money (e.g. health insurance for all), how does he propose to pay for it?
     
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  2. Sep 16, 2008
  3. brianzz

    brianzz Dormant account

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    That's president Obama...

    Look at youtube for his acceptance speech at the DNC, he outlines how he's going to pay for everything. Or democrats.org
     
  4. Sep 16, 2008
  5. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    So what does McCain offer? Other than tax cuts for the already wealthy.

    The same McCain that doesn't even know how many houses he owns or what kind of car he drives. :rolleyes:
     
  6. Sep 17, 2008
  7. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account

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    the same thing i asked awhile back, free college , free medical, but the good stuff like the senate gets lmao, free free free , nothing is free, where is the money comming from?.answers......anyone?
     
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  8. Sep 17, 2008
  9. RobWin

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    The same place it comes from now...they print it out of thin air with absolutely nothing to back it up...:rolleyes:
     
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  10. Sep 17, 2008
  11. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    I think what voters need to do is to read the platforms that are offered by both parties, and decide which one you can identify with:

    Democrats
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    Republicans
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    I think a lot of it is how you connect yourself to the agenda, and then go from there.

    Lest we forget, what is also crucial in this election is selecting who is representing YOUR district and State. A full list can be located here:

    http://www.casinomeister.com/US_congress.php
     
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  12. Sep 18, 2008
  13. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster Ueber Meister CAG

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    I have this idea that voters should be required to write an essay explaining their choice, and if the best reason you can come up with to vote for X is that "I have always voted X, my father always voted X, my grandfather always voted X", then you are disqualified.
     
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  14. Sep 18, 2008
  15. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account

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    but thats not the american way or right, we have that choice here and thats what makes us a great nation imo, we can differ on who we think should lead our country with our friends and families but in the end we remain one nation undivided, every voting american has a voice and those that dont vote or voice their opinions should never complain about the state of the country, its not whether you vote dem. ind. or rep. its your right and your duty as an american to vote and try to make this a better country for those in the future....................laurie:)
     
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  16. Sep 23, 2008
  17. babs7262

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    I agree with that thinking , I really do BUT...it never works. They said that 50 years ago and this day today is the future from 50 yrs ago yet its not better, its worse. Every generation says "your vote makes a difference" well, mine didnt 2 elections ago along with tons of other ppl. They want you to think you have a vote and a right but yet dont see anything happening. Then you see a country like England who has (or had atleast not long ago) one of the lowest crime rates, least amount of guns, full health care for everyone along with prescriptions. Yes, countries like England, France, Italy may pay higher taxes while we all whine about ours but Id rather pay the higher taxes and get all of those benefits other countries are getting. My God, France not only pays your medical but when you leave the hospital , they make sure you have a ride, a meal and place to stay. If you dont they pay for it to make sure you get home ok. They give their people 6 weeks paid vacation a year, they pay for time off if you get married or move. THey pay all medical.,dental, hospital and even a daycare provider. Did you know they even bring in a person to do laundry , clean and cook you a meal twice a week if both husband and wife work and have kids to give the parents a break?

    I could go on forever but I wont. I just believe it doesnt matter what we want because in the end, the President goes with whatever is going to benefit him in the long run. Infact, they already know who the winner is ,just like the emmy awards and everything else we think we have a vote on
     
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  18. Sep 23, 2008
  19. jod5413

    jod5413 Is That Better?

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    SIGH!!!!!

    Come on, Babs, you aren't serious, are you???

    You had better do some more research before you post stuff like this! Look at the "quality of life" for these folks in these countries you are applauding. I do not believe for one second you would like to live like these folks do in these countries you are so approving of. You live like royalty compared to the people you are talking about, believe me. Or not. Do some research!!!
     
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  20. Sep 23, 2008
  21. mercy

    mercy Banned User - multiple banned accounts

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    The money for change? How are we going to pay for change?The same way we are paying for the war in Iraq and Afghanistan:rolleyes:
     
  22. Sep 23, 2008
  23. bryand

    bryand Beach Bum PABnonaccred mm1

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    No offense but this is the typical liberal non-answer.
     
  24. Sep 23, 2008
  25. RobWin

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    I'll give you an answer...How about he pays for it by just using one tenth of the wasted Foreign Aid dollars that the government fleeces from US Taxpayers everyday and instead of sending all of this money to corrupt foreign governments we start using it to take care of our own damn people !! :rolleyes:

    Since World War II the United States has spent way over $1 trillion dollars on foreign aid. The result is debt, dependency and poverty. These stats come from the Cato Institute...;)
     
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  26. Sep 23, 2008
  27. babs7262

    babs7262 Banned User

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    Jod? How long did you live in England, Italy and France to know that they dont live as well as we do? I have a cousin who lives in England and loves it, My neice lived in France for a year and didnt want to come home and I have family that have been living in Italy for over 80 years and they are very happy and healthy.

    I love when people take things out of context. I never said any country lives better nor did I say that I didnt love living in America. All I said was that those countries are well taken care of health wise and given alot of help
     
  28. Sep 23, 2008
  29. BingoT

    BingoT Nurses love to give shots webmeister

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    Aim not the type of person that talks about Politics or Religion
    All I can say is who ever you put in office they are full of crap.
    All big talk now before we all vote.I am a democrats Whip Tee Doo but that don't mean I will go that way.
     
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  30. Sep 23, 2008
  31. 1819

    1819 Dormant account

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    i do not vote anymore. we live in a "me first" money driven society. not a democracy. the people in power look out for their best interests as they always have. that is true for all forms of government. there are 300 million people in this country. far too many to keep happy. you have two men trying to win a title that really means nothing when you come right down to it. the president certainly doesnt run the country. i think we all know that. the issues they debate over now are cookie cut issues that every single candidate has always debated over and nothing ever gets done. abortion. no abortion. higher taxes, no taxes. inflation, recession, health care. please... at the end of the day the president and his buddys are all smokin expensive cigars and laughing at the masses. the society we live in demands answers even if they dont exist. that is our fault. there is no common sense anymore. only blame. turn on the news and every single aspect of every single issue is disected to pieces. why? we need answers. problem is there are none and no one wants to accept that. we can not all live in harmony. it is against our nature. we can not all have a slice of the american pie. there is too much to be lost by the folks who have the biggest piece. very sad but true.
     
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  32. Sep 23, 2008
  33. mercy

    mercy Banned User - multiple banned accounts

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    Thank you, I take that as a compliment:D
     
  34. Sep 27, 2008
  35. NASHVEGAS

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    Think I will just take a drive up the road to Kentucky and gamble online on election day cause Obama just ain't my dig.

    Really wanted to understand the latest $700 BILLION bailout as more to go but I guess I will have to check with Larry,Curly and Moe for the real low down. Is she for real?...:what:TF,:what:TF
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    Last edited: Sep 27, 2008
  36. Oct 1, 2008
  37. bryand

    bryand Beach Bum PABnonaccred mm1

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    I don't believe Obama is campaigning on that idea, albeit a good one. This thread has been open for 2 weeks and not a single legitimate response.
     
  38. Oct 1, 2008
  39. lots0

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    I don't think so.

    The point is, that money can be found to wage a war for Haliburton oil profits in Iraq, what is it now... $10 Billion a month we are spending on this war and Haliburton no longer even pays American taxes and ships all the Iraqi oil to China (Haliburton is now a Dubai company)...

    But we can't find the money to improve our country??? WTF is that about?

    I'm going to vote... I earned the right...
    For those of you that were given the right to vote by the lives and blood of others and choose not to.
    In my opinion this is disrespect of the highest form for the many that have fought and died for you to have that right handed to you.
     
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