What was you worst BJ losing streak ever?

[chucho]

I deposited tonight at Intercasino tonight, the standard $90 deposit for $90 free. I lost the 1st 11 hands, pushed, then lost two more before I won. I call that losing 13 in a row, you can call it 11 if you want. That is the worst run I have experienced personally at a "fair" casino. What is your worst losing streak, lost hands in a row playing BJ? It does not count if you don't play perfect basic strategy or play online on cheating software. For the record, I came back over my original deposit so I guess it could be said that they did not cheat, but I lost it all before meeting the WR so as I always say, if I lose online, it is because they cheated

 

[DrNo888]

I dont remember how many hands specifically, but when I did SuperVegas, I went from $250 to 0 flat betting $1 or $2. I am sure there was at least one streak of 10 and 15 in there somewhere.

 

[Clayman]

At Inter, my longest "loss only" streak is 1 streak of 12. My longest streaks of "loss or tie" are 2 streaks of 12, 1 of 13, 2 of 14 and 1 of 15.

At Micro, I've had 3 streaks of 13 losses in a row. My longest "loss or tie" streaks are 1 at 15, 1 at 16 and 1 at 17.

Not wanting to ruin 2005 quite so soon, I think I will postpone my monthly Inter clobbering until later in the month

 

[two_card]

Sands of the Caribbean BJ.

At the end of the session - 2 pushes - then 22 losers in a row.
Checked the playlog details.

New record for me (Land base or online)

Flat betting $5

Posted at CM:
BJ Streak at SandsOftheCaribbean
12th November 2004, 04:37 PM

The play logs are posted in that thread.

 

[chucho]

Not wanting to ruin 2005 quite so soon, I think I will postpone my monthly Inter clobbering until later in the month

2005 is not over, as long as you you play an Intercasino and they turn the switch off! I have spoken with several of my friends this month who have played an intercasino and they all got beat down like a dog other than one who apprently got in early, New Years baby I guess? Hopefully Ryan will start a thread every month for us faithfull bonus pimps and let us know when the switch is off. Can anyone out there with a caculator tell me what the oddos of losing 13 hands in a row are in a "real" casino are?

 

[paul1]

I dont remember how many hands specifically, but when I did SuperVegas, I went from $250 to 0 flat betting $1 or $2. I am sure there was at least one streak of 10 and 15 in there somewhere.

Better luck next time, sir.

I'm sorry to laugh, DrNo888. It's just that THAT is so bad, if you don't laugh I guess there's nothing left to do but cry. That is REALLY running bad. If I were you, I would have thrown the mouse at the wall and possibly punched the monitor.

Seriously, though. People should stop counting the bad luck runs. I try to put the bad beats out of my mind and ONLY brag about the GOOD beats that I put on the dealer or someone else in poker. I don't tell bad beat stories. I tell stories about the huge pot I take down, catching runner runner gutshots, having NO business in the hand to start with. Now THAT is worth remembering.

Remember, the glass is half full, not half empty.

I don't know how many hands of blackjack I have ever lost in a row. But I remember getting four Blackjacks in a row, then a pat 20, and then another Blackjack. And THAT was on Boss Media. woohoo!

 

[Flavio4321]

my worst streak was at intercasino, I lost 14 hands in a row( i think there were some pushes), but I was doing it great in that session so after losing 14 hands I ended with the same amount I started.

 

[Black21Jack]

I deposited tonight at Intercasino tonight, the standard $90 deposit for $90 free. I lost the 1st 11 hands, pushed, then lost two more before I won. I call that losing 13 in a row, you can call it 11 if you want. That is the worst run I have experienced personally at a "fair" casino. What is your worst losing streak, lost hands in a row playing BJ? It does not count if you don't play perfect basic strategy or play online on cheating software. For the record, I came back over my original deposit so I guess it could be said that they did not cheat, but I lost it all before meeting the WR so as I always say, if I lose online, it is because they cheated

Was this your first time playing there or are you a regular player? I have been told from a lot of people, and I have noticed myself sometimes that when you first sign up at a casino, and it is your first time playing there, you get a lot of winning hands but eventually hit a long losing streak. Has anyone noticed this? Especially at MG. I feel that MG BJ is fair but people tell me they experience this at MG casinos all the time.

 

[bethug]

I have had no problems with micro casinos as of late.

Now intercasino iis another thing, I have lost 14 hands in row like 4 times and 12 times in a row 3 or more times. Sometime i like to see how far they will go.

So my hold thing is now make the money and run

 

[Clayman]

Can anyone out there with a caculator tell me what the oddos of losing 13 hands in a row are in a "real" casino are?

Not sure with the push included in there but without it it would be around .4789 to the 13th power. So 1 in 14000 or so.

See what a "special" customer you are

 

[lanidar]

Look at ALL the SINGLE wins!

Look at 1 thru 44. I won only 12 hands. ALL singles, except for #4 and #5. In cases like this session it's very difficult to win with only $90 deposit and $90 bonus.

Chuchu....the switch was on.

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[DealerBusts]

My longest losing streak with ties was 18 at a crypto casino. My longest streak of just losses was 11 i think at an MG casino.

Btw bethug, when did you you start spelling properly? Did i miss something?

 

[mitch]

My longest losing streak was 17.

However, here is the most freakish session of blackjack I ever played.

Session Bets W P L

3 - 13 11 - -
45 - 61 - - 16 ( during an overall run of W1 P1 L 22 )
83 - 89 7 - -
90 - 98 - - 9
115 - 127 - 1 12
128 - 135 8 - -
151 - 163 13 - -
165 - 170 6 - -
178 - 191 1 1 12
219 - 228 1 1 8
240 - 255 - 3 13
260 - 276 2 1 14
284 - 296 13 - -
314 - 320 7 - -
324 - 330 - - 7
371 - 378 - - 8
382 - 391 10 - -
454 - 462 1 - 8
469 - 483 - 1 14
492 - 500 9 - -
515 - 526 11 1 -
537 - 544 8 - -
572 - 582 - 2 9
583 - 591 9 - -

Is that freaky or what? Look how close these streaks, are a number actually connect!

I did end up 20 units overall assuming flat bets.

This session was at Crockfords so I have little doubt the software is fair but these streaks could make you believe in the 'dark side'

Anybody encountered anything similar out there?

Mitch

 

[bethug]

I use spell check now so the drill instructor want get me

 

[Clayman]

Look at 1 thru 44. I won only 12 hands. ALL singles, except for #4 and #5. In cases like this session it's very difficult to win with only $90 deposit and $90 bonus.

Hi John - couldn't help myself.

If you had stuck with $2 bets you would have only lost $33 instead of $97. Overall, it's only one of those 1 in 8 kind of sessions.

The main problem is you won 49% of your $2 and $3 bets (56 of 114) but only
19% of your $4, $5 and $8 bets (9 of 47).

Your net loss of $97 was comprised of winning $21 on the $2 and $3 bets but losing $118 on the higher bets.

I thought you were supposed to win your big bets with this system

That's OK - no power on earth can beat Inter if you ask me

 

[lanidar]

I thought you were supposed to win your big bets with this system

That's OK - no power on earth can beat Inter if you ask me

Intercasino, IMO, is similar to Playtech. When they want to come to get you ... they come to get you.

You noticed how I win the small bets and lose the larger ones?
This is ONLY one reason why I believe that the software "sees" your bet and the larger it is the chances are that you will lose it.

Also, IMO, flat betting doesn't work. I still would have lost ... not as much ... but, I still would have lost.

I don't play "TRUE" Cipher, as I am supposed to, because I'm only playing with $180.00. And there are WR's to be met.
Now, if I had $500, or so, in the account and I played as instructed, I would have made quite a bit of money.

I just watch the trends and play the "switch backs".
Again, as you can see, my bets are small. No $10 bets or $15 bets because with only $180 to play with that's a very large percentage to put on the table.

Inter is a tough cookie to beat.
I've done it and I will again.
This was just a lousy session.

 

[caruso]

Now, if I had $500, or so, in the account and I played as instructed, I would have made quite a bit of money.

???

So why not deposit $500 - getting your bonus the same - and play "as instructed"? You'd have made a lot of money AND kept the extra $90. Yet you lost the lot by playing "wrong".

Sorry, but it's the general inconsistencies in this stuff that raises my eyebrows. Not trying to cast aspersions, just stating the position as I see it.

Can you give an example of a bet which you misplayed which you would have played differently if you'd been following instructions?

EDIT: OK, just took a look. I can't see anything "systematic" in any of that. Sometimes you chase losses, other times you chase wins. Can you give an example of what you thought you were looking at in a given moment and why you reacted as you did?

Putting you on the spot, I know.

 

[lanidar]

Can you give an example of a bet which you misplayed which you would have played differently if you'd been following instructions?

As I said, that was a lousy session.
If I had $500 or so I would have quit early in the game and cut my losses.
But, if I were to have continued:
LINE 5: I would have wagered $12
All things being equal, at line 46 I would have had $434. (assuming my math is correct)
LINE 47: I would have wagered $76 X 3 = $228. The $76 is my net losses to that point. Winning the $228 + the $434 would give me $662.
The next hand I would have wagered at least $25 which now takes me to $687.
Next bet would have been $10 giving me a gross of $677 - $500 = $177 profit.

Now TWO things ... Again, I most likely would have stopped playing early in the game ... and if I had continued to play, and won $177, I would have cashed it in and been happy that with such a terrible session that i made as much as I did.

Hope my math is right.

P.S. Cipher is the MASTER I was but a student. And I'm still learning.

 

[caruso]

LINE 5: I would have wagered $12

What is there in the session to that point (four hands) to lead you to believe that $12 had a better than expected / average (whatever) chance of success?

LINE 47: I would have wagered $76 X 3 = $228. The $76 is my net losses to that point. Winning the $228 + the $434 would give me $662.

Given that the session to date contains but ONE two-hand winning run, why the almighty leap? Effectively, you're chasing losses?

What I'm asking is specifics about WHY you would make these adjustments. You can say "if I won I would have XXX", but this doesn't justify any particular move at any particular moment without a reason. "Because I might win" is not a reason. I don't see any justifications in the above for what you might have done. I'm not trying to be a bastard, just trying to see where - if anywhere - you're coming from.

 

[arbster]

Given that the session to date contains but ONE two-hand winning run, why the almighty leap?

He was starting with a $500 bankroll.

 

[lanidar]

What is there in the session to that point (four hands) to lead you to believe that $12 had a better than expected / average (whatever) chance of success?

If a trend is there, after a loss you are supposed to wager 3 X your net loss which is $4 X3 = $12.00. At that point, I saw a trend.

Given that the session to date contains but ONE two-hand winning run, why the almighty leap? Effectively, you're chasing losses?

What I'm asking is specifics about WHY you would make these adjustments. You can say "if I won I would have XXX", but this doesn't justify any particular move at any particular moment without a reason. "Because I might win" is not a reason. I don't see any justifications in the above for what you might have done. I'm not trying to be a bastard, just trying to see where - if anywhere - you're coming from.

There is a trend that 2 wins or losses turns into 4 wins or losses. At that point I believed I saw that trend happening. It doesn't always happen, but when it does and you're there to make the wager you WILL win 3 X your loss.
That's why I would have wagered the $228 at that point.

It's OK..you're NOT being a bastard. It's NOT easy to explain online. If you truly want to know more PM me. I'll give you my home phone and i will be happy to explain it to you.
Cipher DOES work. I've been using it for almost a year and I do make a good deal of money using the Cipher method.

 

[Clayman]

That's why I would have wagered the $228 at that point.

On the one hand you say "No $10 bets or $15 bets because with only $180 to play with that's a very large percentage to put on the table." yet you would bet $228 with a $434 bankroll? I hope it wouldn't be a hand you needed to double.

I'm sure it is hard to explain on or off-line.

Good luck in reading the seeding, dumping, switch-backs and trends correctly.
I'll continue to just hope my next hand is one of the 52 out of 100 hands I am supposed to win or tie.

 

[HateMG]

Let me explain how I undestand this system works. Mind you I never contacted Cipher or Lanidar and I don't have any software to keep track of my hands and I'm not making any notes when I'm playing. I recently tried to use this system or modified version of it. 2 weeks ago I opened an account with Casino on Net, deposited $100 and got $100 bonus. Playing for 9 days (evenings only) I requested several withdrawals for almost 21K. But last day I gave up most of it (making reversals) but still finished ahead $4500. It seemed like somebody turned a switch that day on and I could not win 2 hands in a row.
Notice that in online casinos very often your wins and loses are batch together. So after several loses of $1 comes a win I would bet 1/10 of my bankroll if I win I'll bet 1/2 of previous bet and continue until I lose or push. Then back to a $1. If you lose only 1 hand and then win don't rush to a bigger bet. It could be what Cipher calls a SWITCHBACK (win-lose-win-lose pattern).
When I was on a roll in CON I often made $200-$250 bets after a single win of $1 following batch of loses of $1. More often than not I would win that bet and go down to $100 or $75. Looking back I realize that any session should be under 100 hands. That what killed me that last day. I was chasing my losses and kept reversing my winnings.

 

[bethug]

hateMg please delete your post, you have let the cat out the bag we doom now. No more free money

Let them study and learn on there own.

 

[chucho]

$100 and got $100 bonus. Playing for 9 days (evenings only) I requested several withdrawals for almost 21K

Are you saying you turned a $100 deposit into 21K playing BJ?